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Sadly, most will continue to miss the point. Nothing is really 'Free.' Big Brother is gonna get something out of the deal. You really are making a deal with the Devil when you demand Big Brother support you and your family.
There will be a heavy price to pay. Your independence and freedom will be the price. You invited Big Brother in, now he owns you. So take my advice, don't sell your soul to the Devil. Just do it the old fashioned way... Work harder.
People like Ravi live to be owned.
EVERYONE pays taxes, everyone. In one form or the other, everyone pays taxes. Welfare, food stamps, housing, winter heating, transportation, etc., is paid through tax dollars collected from taxpayers. Everyone pays into the system.Many people receiving welfare has worked at one time in their life and have paid into the system. Children on welfare aren't old enough to work. The elderly paid into the system all of their lives. The disabled and severely handicapped can't work. But, EVERYONE pays taxes in one form or the other, everyone. Welfare is tax money collected by the government. The government does not spend government money. The government spends tax dollars collected from taxpayers. And, everyone pays taxes in one form or the other.Where does the money come from to pay for welfare? Where does the money come from to pay for food stamps, housing, aid for dependent children, disability, etc.? Does the government have money other than tax dollars to pay for all of those things? If so, where does the government get the money?Payroll taxes consist of Social Security and Medicare, neither of which contribute to Welfare. You are being misleading implying they pay for "freebies' because they don't.
According to ravtard, it comes from the people who are RECEIVING it.
Figure that one out. She again proves she exists to dumb down discussion.
Oh, if by "paying into the system" you mean they once saw their paycheck from McD's reduced by $20, ok.
I thought you were talking about payments that come somewhere NEAR to paying for the untold thousands per month they COST the system.
If you know, then you know that tax dollars help with winter heating, food stamps, housing, aid for dependent children, disability, and other assistance. Everyone pays taxes in one form or the other. tax dollars are used to help people. Tax dollars help the poor, the needy, the less fortunate among us. Where else do you think the money comes from?Not true at all. Some elderly get help with heating cost, help with transportation cost, as well as help with prescription cost and health care. The elderly also get a Social Security check each month in addition to what I listed. And, it's all paid from taxes collected by either the states or federal government. It's tax dollars which everyone pays in one form or the other.Can't admit you were wrong, eh? He wasn't talking about that, anyway. He was talking about paying into the system over their work life period. Many, many welfare recipients are elderly people that worked all their lives.Payroll taxes also consist of state and federal income tax.
And lol at the two dim bulbs that agreed with your false statement.
How much state and federal income tax do you think someone pays that is employed and still eligible for Welfare?
That's a total lie.
Do you even know what welfare is? It doesn't go to elderly people, you nincompoop.
Some of the elderly receive foodstamps, but for the most part, if they have worked during their lives, their SSB is just high enough to prevent them from getting any more than a few dollars, at most.
None of those things are *welfare*, but okay....
Ravi is talking about the elderly who *worked all their lives*. Those people, likewise, are not income eligible for energy assistance and state-paid insurance premium assistance. Those income guidelines are the SAME as the guidelines used for foodstamps, and the elderly WHO HAVE WORKED THEIR WHOLE LIVES are not generally eligible.
I know, I denied them regularly.
Sadly, most will continue to miss the point. Nothing is really 'Free.' Big Brother is gonna get something out of the deal. You really are making a deal with the Devil when you demand Big Brother support you and your family.
There will be a heavy price to pay. Your independence and freedom will be the price. You invited Big Brother in, now he owns you. So take my advice, don't sell your soul to the Devil. Just do it the old fashioned way... Work harder.
People like Ravi live to be owned.
One way to solve the problem... Don't count on Big Brother to support you and your family. Don't like the requirements, don't ask for the Freebies. Just forget about it and work harder. Get two or three jobs if you have to. Don't sell your soul to the Devil.
If you know, then you know that tax dollars help with winter heating, food stamps, housing, aid for dependent children, disability, and other assistance. Everyone pays taxes in one form or the other. tax dollars are used to help people. Tax dollars help the poor, the needy, the less fortunate among us. Where else do you think the money comes from?Not true at all. Some elderly get help with heating cost, help with transportation cost, as well as help with prescription cost and health care. The elderly also get a Social Security check each month in addition to what I listed. And, it's all paid from taxes collected by either the states or federal government. It's tax dollars which everyone pays in one form or the other.Can't admit you were wrong, eh? He wasn't talking about that, anyway. He was talking about paying into the system over their work life period. Many, many welfare recipients are elderly people that worked all their lives.How much state and federal income tax do you think someone pays that is employed and still eligible for Welfare?
That's a total lie.
Do you even know what welfare is? It doesn't go to elderly people, you nincompoop.
Some of the elderly receive foodstamps, but for the most part, if they have worked during their lives, their SSB is just high enough to prevent them from getting any more than a few dollars, at most.
None of those things are *welfare*, but okay....
Ravi is talking about the elderly who *worked all their lives*. Those people, likewise, are not income eligible for energy assistance and state-paid insurance premium assistance. Those income guidelines are the SAME as the guidelines used for foodstamps, and the elderly WHO HAVE WORKED THEIR WHOLE LIVES are not generally eligible.
I know, I denied them regularly.
Regardless of tax returns, everyone pays taxes in one form or the other. Everyone pays into the system, Unless one never buys anything, never works, or is a tax dodger, everyone pays into the system at one time or another, everyone. Government assistance programs are funded through taxes collected. What is so hard to understand about that? It's really very simple.EVERYONE pays taxes, everyone. In one form or the other, everyone pays taxes. Welfare, food stamps, housing, winter heating, transportation, etc., is paid through tax dollars collected from taxpayers. Everyone pays into the system.Many people receiving welfare has worked at one time in their life and have paid into the system. Children on welfare aren't old enough to work. The elderly paid into the system all of their lives. The disabled and severely handicapped can't work. But, EVERYONE pays taxes in one form or the other, everyone. Welfare is tax money collected by the government. The government does not spend government money. The government spends tax dollars collected from taxpayers. And, everyone pays taxes in one form or the other.Where does the money come from to pay for welfare? Where does the money come from to pay for food stamps, housing, aid for dependent children, disability, etc.? Does the government have money other than tax dollars to pay for all of those things? If so, where does the government get the money?
According to ravtard, it comes from the people who are RECEIVING it.
Figure that one out. She again proves she exists to dumb down discussion.
Oh, if by "paying into the system" you mean they once saw their paycheck from McD's reduced by $20, ok.
I thought you were talking about payments that come somewhere NEAR to paying for the untold thousands per month they COST the system.
If you are a welfare mother, with children at home, and you work and earn maybe $9000 during the year, and you file for a tax return, you will receive MUCH more in return than you paid out.
And you don't pay out much in the first place...
Sadly, most will continue to miss the point. Nothing is really 'Free.' Big Brother is gonna get something out of the deal. You really are making a deal with the Devil when you demand Big Brother support you and your family.
There will be a heavy price to pay. Your independence and freedom will be the price. You invited Big Brother in, now he owns you. So take my advice, don't sell your soul to the Devil. Just do it the old fashioned way... Work harder.
People like Ravi live to be owned.
One way to solve the problem... Don't count on Big Brother to support you and your family. Don't like the requirements, don't ask for the Freebies. Just forget about it and work harder. Get two or three jobs if you have to. Don't sell your soul to the Devil.
Yeah, people like ravtard think welfare recipients are soooo stupid and helpless that they are incapable of getting up off their fat asses to support themselves, even if they HAVE to.
They aren't that stupid, and they're perfectly capable of doing what they have to do to survive..even if that means FINDING A JOB.
That's incorrect. It depends on their income. They may also apply for SSI and many other benefits paid for through income tax.Food stamps are part of the welfare system and recipients in Tenn are drug tested to receive them.Can't admit you were wrong, eh? He wasn't talking about that, anyway. He was talking about paying into the system over their work life period. Many, many welfare recipients are elderly people that worked all their lives.Payroll taxes also consist of state and federal income tax.
And lol at the two dim bulbs that agreed with your false statement.
How much state and federal income tax do you think someone pays that is employed and still eligible for Welfare?
That's a total lie.
Do you even know what welfare is? It doesn't go to elderly people, you nincompoop.
Some of the elderly receive foodstamps, but for the most part, if they have worked during their lives, their SSB is just high enough to prevent them from getting any more than a few dollars, at most.
In the field, "welfare" refers to cash benefits provided to families with children.
But okay. Elderly people who worked ALL THEIR LIVES, as you defined it...are not eligible for foodstamps. The combination of their income from ssb (based on the fact they have worked *all their lives*) in addition to whatever retirement they generally have (as a result of working *all their lives* most of the elderly have something coming in besides welfare...usually some sort of retirement fund or CD payments or something), the fact they are usually a single person household and have small shelter expense, and don't have any children in the home, means that those people aren't eligible for much, if any, snap allotment.
Try again, you lying piece of shit.
That's incorrect. It depends on their income. They may also apply for SSI and many other benefits paid for through income tax.Food stamps are part of the welfare system and recipients in Tenn are drug tested to receive them.Can't admit you were wrong, eh? He wasn't talking about that, anyway. He was talking about paying into the system over their work life period. Many, many welfare recipients are elderly people that worked all their lives.How much state and federal income tax do you think someone pays that is employed and still eligible for Welfare?
That's a total lie.
Do you even know what welfare is? It doesn't go to elderly people, you nincompoop.
Some of the elderly receive foodstamps, but for the most part, if they have worked during their lives, their SSB is just high enough to prevent them from getting any more than a few dollars, at most.
In the field, "welfare" refers to cash benefits provided to families with children.
But okay. Elderly people who worked ALL THEIR LIVES, as you defined it...are not eligible for foodstamps. The combination of their income from ssb (based on the fact they have worked *all their lives*) in addition to whatever retirement they generally have (as a result of working *all their lives* most of the elderly have something coming in besides welfare...usually some sort of retirement fund or CD payments or something), the fact they are usually a single person household and have small shelter expense, and don't have any children in the home, means that those people aren't eligible for much, if any, snap allotment.
Try again, you lying piece of shit.
In what way(s) are they not supporting it? Please explain. Many that are presently receiving some form of assistance, have worked during their life. All of them make purchases. Some of them pay property tax, school tax, highway tax each and every time they put gas in their vehicle, etc. etc. etc. We all pay into the system. The government divides the tax dollars up into different categories, then disburses the money where needed. Welfare is paid through tax dollars collected from taxpayers. And, many pay into the system for years until they need assistance. Children are too young to work and pay into the system. The disabled, handicapped and others can't work. So, the system provides for their "WELFARE". It's really a very simple thing to understand. Where do you think the money comes from? And, do you honestly believe that everyone receiving some form of assistance, has never ever paid one cent into the system? Please explain. Thanks.If you know, then you know that tax dollars help with winter heating, food stamps, housing, aid for dependent children, disability, and other assistance. Everyone pays taxes in one form or the other. tax dollars are used to help people. Tax dollars help the poor, the needy, the less fortunate among us. Where else do you think the money comes from?Not true at all. Some elderly get help with heating cost, help with transportation cost, as well as help with prescription cost and health care. The elderly also get a Social Security check each month in addition to what I listed. And, it's all paid from taxes collected by either the states or federal government. It's tax dollars which everyone pays in one form or the other.Can't admit you were wrong, eh? He wasn't talking about that, anyway. He was talking about paying into the system over their work life period. Many, many welfare recipients are elderly people that worked all their lives.
That's a total lie.
Do you even know what welfare is? It doesn't go to elderly people, you nincompoop.
Some of the elderly receive foodstamps, but for the most part, if they have worked during their lives, their SSB is just high enough to prevent them from getting any more than a few dollars, at most.
None of those things are *welfare*, but okay....
Ravi is talking about the elderly who *worked all their lives*. Those people, likewise, are not income eligible for energy assistance and state-paid insurance premium assistance. Those income guidelines are the SAME as the guidelines used for foodstamps, and the elderly WHO HAVE WORKED THEIR WHOLE LIVES are not generally eligible.
I know, I denied them regularly.
The people who are sucking the system dry are NOT the ones supporting it.
Gads, how stupid can you be?
In what way(s) are they not supporting it? Please explain. Many that are presently receiving some form of assistance, have worked during their life. All of them make purchases. Some of them pay property tax, school tax, highway tax each and every time they put gas in their vehicle, etc. etc. etc. We all pay into the system. The government divides the tax dollars up into different categories, then disburses the money where needed. Welfare is paid through tax dollars collected from taxpayers. And, many pay into the system for years until they need assistance. Children are too young to work and pay into the system. The disabled, handicapped and others can't work. So, the system provides for their "WELFARE". It's really a very simple thing to understand. Where do you think the money comes from? And, do you honestly believe that everyone receiving some form of assistance, has never ever paid one cent into the system? Please explain. Thanks.If you know, then you know that tax dollars help with winter heating, food stamps, housing, aid for dependent children, disability, and other assistance. Everyone pays taxes in one form or the other. tax dollars are used to help people. Tax dollars help the poor, the needy, the less fortunate among us. Where else do you think the money comes from?Not true at all. Some elderly get help with heating cost, help with transportation cost, as well as help with prescription cost and health care. The elderly also get a Social Security check each month in addition to what I listed. And, it's all paid from taxes collected by either the states or federal government. It's tax dollars which everyone pays in one form or the other.That's a total lie.
Do you even know what welfare is? It doesn't go to elderly people, you nincompoop.
Some of the elderly receive foodstamps, but for the most part, if they have worked during their lives, their SSB is just high enough to prevent them from getting any more than a few dollars, at most.
None of those things are *welfare*, but okay....
Ravi is talking about the elderly who *worked all their lives*. Those people, likewise, are not income eligible for energy assistance and state-paid insurance premium assistance. Those income guidelines are the SAME as the guidelines used for foodstamps, and the elderly WHO HAVE WORKED THEIR WHOLE LIVES are not generally eligible.
I know, I denied them regularly.
The people who are sucking the system dry are NOT the ones supporting it.
Gads, how stupid can you be?
Drug testing of welfare applicants yields few positives
So much for the RW meme that all welfare recepients are on drugs.
On the other side, the cost of the testing program is really not very expensive, so assuming $1,000 per month in welfare, with 37 less people, that means $37,000 saved, minus $9,500 for the drug testing = $27,500 saved. Statistically, the drug tests are worth doing.
Once again the far left drones do not represent all the facts..
279 drug tests were administered
37 drug tests were positive
37 out of 279 is the true number, but this far left drone will once again show their religious dogma rules over reality..
I stand corrected. You are indeed right. I didn't see the end notes. That is then 11%, a higher figure indeed.
However, without having tested all 16,017 applicants, we will never know how many really would have tested positive. We also don't know what kind of profiling they used to decide to only test these 297. So, the figure is probably still quite low.
Thank you for catching my error, it was not intentional.The System has only been in place for a brief time. So it's too early to brand it a 'failure.' The OP is likely just expressing wishful thinking. He or she desperately hopes it fails. But hey, 37 less Moocher Democrats on the dole could be seen by others as a success. Depends on perspective i guess.
So, you didn't read all of the OP, what? I actually wrote that I am not against the testing at all.
No you misrepresent the facts and spewed the far left drone propaganda..
NO, I did not. In fact, the wording of the headline to the OP is still very correct.
16,017 applicants
37 positive tests.
I even apologized for the one oversight, but you are too much of a dickhead to even realize that.
next time, I will just tell you to go fuck off.
Hell, why wait until next time?
Go fuck off.
Once again the far left drones do not represent all the facts..
279 drug tests were administered
37 drug tests were positive
37 out of 279 is the true number, but this far left drone will once again show their religious dogma rules over reality..
I stand corrected. You are indeed right. I didn't see the end notes. That is then 11%, a higher figure indeed.
However, without having tested all 16,017 applicants, we will never know how many really would have tested positive. We also don't know what kind of profiling they used to decide to only test these 297. So, the figure is probably still quite low.
Thank you for catching my error, it was not intentional.The System has only been in place for a brief time. So it's too early to brand it a 'failure.' The OP is likely just expressing wishful thinking. He or she desperately hopes it fails. But hey, 37 less Moocher Democrats on the dole could be seen by others as a success. Depends on perspective i guess.
So, you didn't read all of the OP, what? I actually wrote that I am not against the testing at all.
No you misrepresent the facts and spewed the far left drone propaganda..
NO, I did not. In fact, the wording of the headline to the OP is still very correct.
16,017 applicants
37 positive tests.
I even apologized for the one oversight, but you are too much of a dickhead to even realize that.
next time, I will just tell you to go fuck off.
Hell, why wait until next time?
Go fuck off.
But how many were tested?
And I strongly suggest that you look up the word "welfare". What exactly do you think "welfare" means?In what way(s) are they not supporting it? Please explain. Many that are presently receiving some form of assistance, have worked during their life. All of them make purchases. Some of them pay property tax, school tax, highway tax each and every time they put gas in their vehicle, etc. etc. etc. We all pay into the system. The government divides the tax dollars up into different categories, then disburses the money where needed. Welfare is paid through tax dollars collected from taxpayers. And, many pay into the system for years until they need assistance. Children are too young to work and pay into the system. The disabled, handicapped and others can't work. So, the system provides for their "WELFARE". It's really a very simple thing to understand. Where do you think the money comes from? And, do you honestly believe that everyone receiving some form of assistance, has never ever paid one cent into the system? Please explain. Thanks.If you know, then you know that tax dollars help with winter heating, food stamps, housing, aid for dependent children, disability, and other assistance. Everyone pays taxes in one form or the other. tax dollars are used to help people. Tax dollars help the poor, the needy, the less fortunate among us. Where else do you think the money comes from?Not true at all. Some elderly get help with heating cost, help with transportation cost, as well as help with prescription cost and health care. The elderly also get a Social Security check each month in addition to what I listed. And, it's all paid from taxes collected by either the states or federal government. It's tax dollars which everyone pays in one form or the other.
None of those things are *welfare*, but okay....
Ravi is talking about the elderly who *worked all their lives*. Those people, likewise, are not income eligible for energy assistance and state-paid insurance premium assistance. Those income guidelines are the SAME as the guidelines used for foodstamps, and the elderly WHO HAVE WORKED THEIR WHOLE LIVES are not generally eligible.
I know, I denied them regularly.
The people who are sucking the system dry are NOT the ones supporting it.
Gads, how stupid can you be?
Again.
#1. Elderly who have worked all their lives are not income eligible for *welfare*.
#2. Elderly who RECEIVE welfare are not PAYING for welfare, and never have or they wouldn't be ELIGIBLE for welfare.
This isn't that difficult. I suggest you get a job where you have to crunch numbers, then you will understand this.
What about those that can't work? What about the children? What about the disabled? What about the handicapped? What about the elderly? And, how many jobs do you think are out there? Haven't you heard that there aren't enough jobs that cover all education and skill levels to meet the demand? Haven't you heard that employers are producing more with less employees? Haven't you heard that technology, innovation, and automation are replacing workers? Haven't you heard that many college grads have moved in with their parents due to the weak job market?Sadly, most will continue to miss the point. Nothing is really 'Free.' Big Brother is gonna get something out of the deal. You really are making a deal with the Devil when you demand Big Brother support you and your family.
There will be a heavy price to pay. Your independence and freedom will be the price. You invited Big Brother in, now he owns you. So take my advice, don't sell your soul to the Devil. Just do it the old fashioned way... Work harder.
People like Ravi live to be owned.
One way to solve the problem... Don't count on Big Brother to support you and your family. Don't like the requirements, don't ask for the Freebies. Just forget about it and work harder. Get two or three jobs if you have to. Don't sell your soul to the Devil.
Yeah, people like ravtard think welfare recipients are soooo stupid and helpless that they are incapable of getting up off their fat asses to support themselves, even if they HAVE to.
They aren't that stupid, and they're perfectly capable of doing what they have to do to survive..even if that means FINDING A JOB.
Yup, grab two or three jobs if you have to. Because once you invite Big Brother in, he owns you. You'll do what you're told. If you want those Freebies to continue.
