To thugs: If you have a knife, and the woman has a gun, you are going to the hospital or morgue

No clerks with guns, no robbers with guns. It works elsewhere...


Actually it doesn't. Britain has 2x the violence rate that we do and their gun crime levels stayed the same after the confiscation....France....their criminals and terrorists get fully automatic military rifles whenever they want them...it is very easy.

Gun control will only keep law abiding people from getting guns....the people who are not using them to commit crimes.
Gun control works, where there are no guns, or very few, like Japan. Give it up.


You mean like this Japan...see...Japanese people are law abiding, their culture is not criminal...except for the criminals.....the normal Japanese citizens do not commit crime so they do not break the law about guns...so gun control works for people who obey the law....not so much for those who don't obey the law...

Gangs buying up guns and hitmen.....2015

Yakuza rivals buying up guns, recruiting assassins - AJW by The Asahi Shimbun

By proposing high pay, the recruiters are trying to encourage the gang warfare by hinting that those who carry out the first hits will be paid more,” the source said.

A former high-ranking gang member living in the Kanto region said he began receiving calls asking about the availability of loaded guns from around late August, when the Yamaguchi-gumi split came to light.

The calls, eight in total, to the former gangster’s mobile phone continued into September.

Without saying who made the calls, the former gangster said the requests likely came from both sides involved in the Yamaguchi-gumi breakup.

The large number of intermediaries involved in supplying guns made it difficult to pinpoint who was actually going on the shopping spree, the former mobster said.



-----------------
By Benjamin David Baker
November 20, 2015

Japan Faces a Possible Mob War After Yakuza Gang Fractures

However, few things are more dangerous than when mob families go to war.

This fear seems to have been vindicated. According to the Asahi Shimbun, both the Yamaguchi-gumi and the thirteen splinter groups have been busy buying up weapons and lining up hitmen. The first shots in this mob war might have already been fired outside a hot spring facility in Iida, Nagano Prefecture. The 43-year-old man who was shot and killed outside a bathhouse on October 6 wanted to leave a Yamaguchi-gumi affiliate and join the newly formed rival organization consisting of the rebel gangs.

In what might be retaliation for this murder, a boss in the original Yamaguchi-gumi was killed on Sunday. Tatsuyuki Hishida was found tied up in his apartment after being bludgeoned to death. Police report that the killing was most likely in response to the Yamaguchi-gumi’s split.

The Japanese government has good reason to fear a gang war. Between 1985 and 1987, 25 Yakuza members were killedand around 70 were injured in a feud involving affiliated rival gangs. That bloodshed was triggered in part over disagreement over who should become the head of the Yamaguchi-gumi. A few years ago, another war broke out between two rival gangs on the southern island of Kyushu, in which mobsters attacked each other with machine guns and grenades.







-------------
The Great Japanese Gang Wars

The season for pineapples (yakuza slang for hand grenades) may finally be over. Jake Adelstein and Nathalie-Kyoko Stucky on the bloody, seven-year battle between the Dojin-kai and the Seido-kai.


In Southern Japan, the brutal pineapple season may finally be over; pineapple is yakuza slang for “hand grenade”—one of the many weapons utilized in a seven-year gang war between the Dojin-kai (1,000 members) and the splinter group the Kyushu Seido-kei (500 members).

It’s a gang war in which there have been over 45 violent incidents, including bombings, shots exchanged during high-speed car chases, and 14 deaths. At least seven deaths, including one civilian's, were from gunfire; a phenomenally high figure when you consider the number of gun deaths for all of Japan in 2011 was eight people. (Japan has some of the strictest gun-control laws in the world.)

On June 11, senior members of the Dojin-kai and the Kyushu Seido-kai (a.k.a. Seido-kai) visited the Fukuoka Police Kurume Police Station with an official announcement that they were ending the conflict. TheSeido-kai brought a virtual white flag, a notification of their dissolution (解散届け), in which they wrote, “For a long time we have made everyone ill at ease, disturbed people, and been a nuisance to society. We have decided our breakup is the only way to restore peace.” The Dojin-kai in turn proclaimed, “Since the Seido-kai is dissolved, this situation is over and we apologize to people and the authorities for the anxiety we have caused.”
----
----------------

Handouts for Hand Grenades: Yakuza Gang War Leads to an Explosive Bounty

TOKYO -- Japan’s Fukuoka Prefecture Police have become the first in Japan to offer cash rewards to anyone who reports finding a hand grenade (or "pineapples" in yakuza slang) starting today, April 2. A long-running gang war in the prefecture has raised public fear in the area, and the handy hand-grenade has increasingly become the weapon of choice amongst rival gang members. As Japan has put into place increasingly harsher laws regulating the actions of the Japanese mafia, aka the yakuza, forcing many out of business--the remaining thugs are fighting viciously over what's left of the pie

When gang members aren't lobbing grenades or shooting at each other, they are shooting at the offices of companies trying to cut organized crime Last year, on Nov. 26, Toshihiro Uchino, the 72-year-old president of Hakushin Construction --which was trying to cut ties to local gangs---was shot to death outside his home in Kitakyushu.


The most violent of the groups and considered the primary user of hand grenades is the Kyushu Seidokai. The Kyushu Seidokai has expanded into Tokyo, setting up several front companies, and joined forces with Tadamasa Goto, a former Yamaguchi-gumi boss turned Buddhist priest, who has now re-emerged as a powerful player in Japan's underworld. Tokyo Police are also worried that "pineapples" may be thrown around the metropolis in the near future. "A coalition between Goto and the Kyushu Seido-kai doesn't bode well for the public safety," said a detective who works organized crime. "We’re not excited about the possibility of yakuza lobbing grenades into Tokyo offices and homes."
--------


Japan braces for violence among 'yakuza' crime gangs

TOKYO — Japan is bracing for war.

Not with other countries, but with the nation's notorious gangsters.

A 43-year-old man was gunned down in the parking lot of a hot springs resort in western Japan earlier this month in what authorities say they fear could be the start of a deadly war among the nation's largest organized crime gangs, known collectively as the yakuza.

The powerful Yamaguchi-gumi crime syndicate, which marked its 100th anniversary this year, split into two rival groups in September. Police arrested a member of the Yamaguchi-gumi in the hot springs shooting and identified the victim as a member of the breakaway group.

Analysts said the rupture was due to long-running disputes over succession plans and high fees that member groups were required to pay Yamaguchi-gumi leaders.
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A dispute over the gang’s leadership in the early 1980s led to a two-year war that left an estimated 30 gangsters dead, 70 others wounded and more than 500 in police custody. However, there are no statistics on the number of civilians killed or injured in the violence.
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Hey Mr. Statistics....why don't you do us a little more.

Take out the black on black.....let us know where we land.
Since the ******* aren't leaving on the next boat, who the fuck besides a White-Pride Hitler-Youth cares? Oh right, no one.
 
Even if there is a 25% chance they'll take your money and knife you anyway ?

You go ahead.

I'll shoot them every time.
The chances are more like .025%.

I asked you when moron.....let's see if you come up with a number.

You said it was NEVER justified.

What if your statistics told you 25% ? Justified ?

I'd like to see you say no.
No amount of money is worth taking a human life over, ever. Clear?

You are avoiding the question or can you not read ?

This isn't about money.

Got it ? or Clear ?

This is ME asking YOU...at what probability that she will robbed and then knifed is she justified in blowing his balls off ? All you have to do is answer 5%, 10% or 100% (which is your current stupid answer).

Clear ?
The odds? Roughly 0. That is why corporate policy, hand over the money and no one gets hurt, is what it is.

Still can't read, can you ?

I didn't ask what they were...I am asking you, hypothetically, what they would need to be to justify shooting the guy.

Are you purposely being evasive ?

Or are you just stupid ?
 
The chances are more like .025%.

I asked you when moron.....let's see if you come up with a number.

You said it was NEVER justified.

What if your statistics told you 25% ? Justified ?

I'd like to see you say no.
No amount of money is worth taking a human life over, ever. Clear?

You are avoiding the question or can you not read ?

This isn't about money.

Got it ? or Clear ?

This is ME asking YOU...at what probability that she will robbed and then knifed is she justified in blowing his balls off ? All you have to do is answer 5%, 10% or 100% (which is your current stupid answer).

Clear ?
The odds? Roughly 0. That is why corporate policy, hand over the money and no one gets hurt, is what it is.

Still can't read, can you ?

I didn't ask what they were...I am asking you, hypothetically, what they would need to be to justify shooting the guy.

Are you purposely being evasive ?

Or are you just stupid ?
The odds necessary to justify such a thing, 100%. Clear?
 
Actually it doesn't. Britain has 2x the violence rate that we do and their gun crime levels stayed the same after the confiscation....France....their criminals and terrorists get fully automatic military rifles whenever they want them...it is very easy.

Gun control will only keep law abiding people from getting guns....the people who are not using them to commit crimes.
Gun control works, where there are no guns, or very few, like Japan. Give it up.


You mean like this Japan...see...Japanese people are law abiding, their culture is not criminal...except for the criminals.....the normal Japanese citizens do not commit crime so they do not break the law about guns...so gun control works for people who obey the law....not so much for those who don't obey the law...

Gangs buying up guns and hitmen.....2015

Yakuza rivals buying up guns, recruiting assassins - AJW by The Asahi Shimbun

By proposing high pay, the recruiters are trying to encourage the gang warfare by hinting that those who carry out the first hits will be paid more,” the source said.

A former high-ranking gang member living in the Kanto region said he began receiving calls asking about the availability of loaded guns from around late August, when the Yamaguchi-gumi split came to light.

The calls, eight in total, to the former gangster’s mobile phone continued into September.

Without saying who made the calls, the former gangster said the requests likely came from both sides involved in the Yamaguchi-gumi breakup.

The large number of intermediaries involved in supplying guns made it difficult to pinpoint who was actually going on the shopping spree, the former mobster said.



-----------------
By Benjamin David Baker
November 20, 2015

Japan Faces a Possible Mob War After Yakuza Gang Fractures

However, few things are more dangerous than when mob families go to war.

This fear seems to have been vindicated. According to the Asahi Shimbun, both the Yamaguchi-gumi and the thirteen splinter groups have been busy buying up weapons and lining up hitmen. The first shots in this mob war might have already been fired outside a hot spring facility in Iida, Nagano Prefecture. The 43-year-old man who was shot and killed outside a bathhouse on October 6 wanted to leave a Yamaguchi-gumi affiliate and join the newly formed rival organization consisting of the rebel gangs.

In what might be retaliation for this murder, a boss in the original Yamaguchi-gumi was killed on Sunday. Tatsuyuki Hishida was found tied up in his apartment after being bludgeoned to death. Police report that the killing was most likely in response to the Yamaguchi-gumi’s split.

The Japanese government has good reason to fear a gang war. Between 1985 and 1987, 25 Yakuza members were killedand around 70 were injured in a feud involving affiliated rival gangs. That bloodshed was triggered in part over disagreement over who should become the head of the Yamaguchi-gumi. A few years ago, another war broke out between two rival gangs on the southern island of Kyushu, in which mobsters attacked each other with machine guns and grenades.







-------------
The Great Japanese Gang Wars

The season for pineapples (yakuza slang for hand grenades) may finally be over. Jake Adelstein and Nathalie-Kyoko Stucky on the bloody, seven-year battle between the Dojin-kai and the Seido-kai.


In Southern Japan, the brutal pineapple season may finally be over; pineapple is yakuza slang for “hand grenade”—one of the many weapons utilized in a seven-year gang war between the Dojin-kai (1,000 members) and the splinter group the Kyushu Seido-kei (500 members).

It’s a gang war in which there have been over 45 violent incidents, including bombings, shots exchanged during high-speed car chases, and 14 deaths. At least seven deaths, including one civilian's, were from gunfire; a phenomenally high figure when you consider the number of gun deaths for all of Japan in 2011 was eight people. (Japan has some of the strictest gun-control laws in the world.)

On June 11, senior members of the Dojin-kai and the Kyushu Seido-kai (a.k.a. Seido-kai) visited the Fukuoka Police Kurume Police Station with an official announcement that they were ending the conflict. TheSeido-kai brought a virtual white flag, a notification of their dissolution (解散届け), in which they wrote, “For a long time we have made everyone ill at ease, disturbed people, and been a nuisance to society. We have decided our breakup is the only way to restore peace.” The Dojin-kai in turn proclaimed, “Since the Seido-kai is dissolved, this situation is over and we apologize to people and the authorities for the anxiety we have caused.”
----
----------------

Handouts for Hand Grenades: Yakuza Gang War Leads to an Explosive Bounty

TOKYO -- Japan’s Fukuoka Prefecture Police have become the first in Japan to offer cash rewards to anyone who reports finding a hand grenade (or "pineapples" in yakuza slang) starting today, April 2. A long-running gang war in the prefecture has raised public fear in the area, and the handy hand-grenade has increasingly become the weapon of choice amongst rival gang members. As Japan has put into place increasingly harsher laws regulating the actions of the Japanese mafia, aka the yakuza, forcing many out of business--the remaining thugs are fighting viciously over what's left of the pie

When gang members aren't lobbing grenades or shooting at each other, they are shooting at the offices of companies trying to cut organized crime Last year, on Nov. 26, Toshihiro Uchino, the 72-year-old president of Hakushin Construction --which was trying to cut ties to local gangs---was shot to death outside his home in Kitakyushu.


The most violent of the groups and considered the primary user of hand grenades is the Kyushu Seidokai. The Kyushu Seidokai has expanded into Tokyo, setting up several front companies, and joined forces with Tadamasa Goto, a former Yamaguchi-gumi boss turned Buddhist priest, who has now re-emerged as a powerful player in Japan's underworld. Tokyo Police are also worried that "pineapples" may be thrown around the metropolis in the near future. "A coalition between Goto and the Kyushu Seido-kai doesn't bode well for the public safety," said a detective who works organized crime. "We’re not excited about the possibility of yakuza lobbing grenades into Tokyo offices and homes."
--------


Japan braces for violence among 'yakuza' crime gangs

TOKYO — Japan is bracing for war.

Not with other countries, but with the nation's notorious gangsters.

A 43-year-old man was gunned down in the parking lot of a hot springs resort in western Japan earlier this month in what authorities say they fear could be the start of a deadly war among the nation's largest organized crime gangs, known collectively as the yakuza.

The powerful Yamaguchi-gumi crime syndicate, which marked its 100th anniversary this year, split into two rival groups in September. Police arrested a member of the Yamaguchi-gumi in the hot springs shooting and identified the victim as a member of the breakaway group.

Analysts said the rupture was due to long-running disputes over succession plans and high fees that member groups were required to pay Yamaguchi-gumi leaders.
-------
A dispute over the gang’s leadership in the early 1980s led to a two-year war that left an estimated 30 gangsters dead, 70 others wounded and more than 500 in police custody. However, there are no statistics on the number of civilians killed or injured in the violence.
c-g04-eng.gif

Hey Mr. Statistics....why don't you do us a little more.

Take out the black on black.....let us know where we land.
Since the ******* aren't leaving on the next boat, who the fuck besides a White-Pride Hitler-Youth cares? Oh right, no one.

No wonder you are working another 20 years....moron.

But, let's see......

I don't live where there is a lot of black on black..........

So, I am pretty certain, my odds are lower....a lot lot lower.

But, since you the logical, math using, statistician....you'd already know that.

So, you are right....I don't care about your chart. It is not issue for me.

And...BTW: I live where guns sell like bubble gum.

Why don't you pull your head out of your left wing ass ?
 
I asked you when moron.....let's see if you come up with a number.

You said it was NEVER justified.

What if your statistics told you 25% ? Justified ?

I'd like to see you say no.
No amount of money is worth taking a human life over, ever. Clear?

You are avoiding the question or can you not read ?

This isn't about money.

Got it ? or Clear ?

This is ME asking YOU...at what probability that she will robbed and then knifed is she justified in blowing his balls off ? All you have to do is answer 5%, 10% or 100% (which is your current stupid answer).

Clear ?
The odds? Roughly 0. That is why corporate policy, hand over the money and no one gets hurt, is what it is.

Still can't read, can you ?

I didn't ask what they were...I am asking you, hypothetically, what they would need to be to justify shooting the guy.

Are you purposely being evasive ?

Or are you just stupid ?
The odds necessary to justify such a thing, 100%. Clear?

So, if she has a 50% chance getting knifed...you are saying she should keep the gun in her purse.

No wonder we lost in Vietnam.
 
Gun control works, where there are no guns, or very few, like Japan. Give it up.


You mean like this Japan...see...Japanese people are law abiding, their culture is not criminal...except for the criminals.....the normal Japanese citizens do not commit crime so they do not break the law about guns...so gun control works for people who obey the law....not so much for those who don't obey the law...

Gangs buying up guns and hitmen.....2015

Yakuza rivals buying up guns, recruiting assassins - AJW by The Asahi Shimbun

By proposing high pay, the recruiters are trying to encourage the gang warfare by hinting that those who carry out the first hits will be paid more,” the source said.

A former high-ranking gang member living in the Kanto region said he began receiving calls asking about the availability of loaded guns from around late August, when the Yamaguchi-gumi split came to light.

The calls, eight in total, to the former gangster’s mobile phone continued into September.

Without saying who made the calls, the former gangster said the requests likely came from both sides involved in the Yamaguchi-gumi breakup.

The large number of intermediaries involved in supplying guns made it difficult to pinpoint who was actually going on the shopping spree, the former mobster said.



-----------------
By Benjamin David Baker
November 20, 2015

Japan Faces a Possible Mob War After Yakuza Gang Fractures

However, few things are more dangerous than when mob families go to war.

This fear seems to have been vindicated. According to the Asahi Shimbun, both the Yamaguchi-gumi and the thirteen splinter groups have been busy buying up weapons and lining up hitmen. The first shots in this mob war might have already been fired outside a hot spring facility in Iida, Nagano Prefecture. The 43-year-old man who was shot and killed outside a bathhouse on October 6 wanted to leave a Yamaguchi-gumi affiliate and join the newly formed rival organization consisting of the rebel gangs.

In what might be retaliation for this murder, a boss in the original Yamaguchi-gumi was killed on Sunday. Tatsuyuki Hishida was found tied up in his apartment after being bludgeoned to death. Police report that the killing was most likely in response to the Yamaguchi-gumi’s split.

The Japanese government has good reason to fear a gang war. Between 1985 and 1987, 25 Yakuza members were killedand around 70 were injured in a feud involving affiliated rival gangs. That bloodshed was triggered in part over disagreement over who should become the head of the Yamaguchi-gumi. A few years ago, another war broke out between two rival gangs on the southern island of Kyushu, in which mobsters attacked each other with machine guns and grenades.







-------------
The Great Japanese Gang Wars

The season for pineapples (yakuza slang for hand grenades) may finally be over. Jake Adelstein and Nathalie-Kyoko Stucky on the bloody, seven-year battle between the Dojin-kai and the Seido-kai.


In Southern Japan, the brutal pineapple season may finally be over; pineapple is yakuza slang for “hand grenade”—one of the many weapons utilized in a seven-year gang war between the Dojin-kai (1,000 members) and the splinter group the Kyushu Seido-kei (500 members).

It’s a gang war in which there have been over 45 violent incidents, including bombings, shots exchanged during high-speed car chases, and 14 deaths. At least seven deaths, including one civilian's, were from gunfire; a phenomenally high figure when you consider the number of gun deaths for all of Japan in 2011 was eight people. (Japan has some of the strictest gun-control laws in the world.)

On June 11, senior members of the Dojin-kai and the Kyushu Seido-kai (a.k.a. Seido-kai) visited the Fukuoka Police Kurume Police Station with an official announcement that they were ending the conflict. TheSeido-kai brought a virtual white flag, a notification of their dissolution (解散届け), in which they wrote, “For a long time we have made everyone ill at ease, disturbed people, and been a nuisance to society. We have decided our breakup is the only way to restore peace.” The Dojin-kai in turn proclaimed, “Since the Seido-kai is dissolved, this situation is over and we apologize to people and the authorities for the anxiety we have caused.”
----
----------------

Handouts for Hand Grenades: Yakuza Gang War Leads to an Explosive Bounty

TOKYO -- Japan’s Fukuoka Prefecture Police have become the first in Japan to offer cash rewards to anyone who reports finding a hand grenade (or "pineapples" in yakuza slang) starting today, April 2. A long-running gang war in the prefecture has raised public fear in the area, and the handy hand-grenade has increasingly become the weapon of choice amongst rival gang members. As Japan has put into place increasingly harsher laws regulating the actions of the Japanese mafia, aka the yakuza, forcing many out of business--the remaining thugs are fighting viciously over what's left of the pie

When gang members aren't lobbing grenades or shooting at each other, they are shooting at the offices of companies trying to cut organized crime Last year, on Nov. 26, Toshihiro Uchino, the 72-year-old president of Hakushin Construction --which was trying to cut ties to local gangs---was shot to death outside his home in Kitakyushu.


The most violent of the groups and considered the primary user of hand grenades is the Kyushu Seidokai. The Kyushu Seidokai has expanded into Tokyo, setting up several front companies, and joined forces with Tadamasa Goto, a former Yamaguchi-gumi boss turned Buddhist priest, who has now re-emerged as a powerful player in Japan's underworld. Tokyo Police are also worried that "pineapples" may be thrown around the metropolis in the near future. "A coalition between Goto and the Kyushu Seido-kai doesn't bode well for the public safety," said a detective who works organized crime. "We’re not excited about the possibility of yakuza lobbing grenades into Tokyo offices and homes."
--------


Japan braces for violence among 'yakuza' crime gangs

TOKYO — Japan is bracing for war.

Not with other countries, but with the nation's notorious gangsters.

A 43-year-old man was gunned down in the parking lot of a hot springs resort in western Japan earlier this month in what authorities say they fear could be the start of a deadly war among the nation's largest organized crime gangs, known collectively as the yakuza.

The powerful Yamaguchi-gumi crime syndicate, which marked its 100th anniversary this year, split into two rival groups in September. Police arrested a member of the Yamaguchi-gumi in the hot springs shooting and identified the victim as a member of the breakaway group.

Analysts said the rupture was due to long-running disputes over succession plans and high fees that member groups were required to pay Yamaguchi-gumi leaders.
-------
A dispute over the gang’s leadership in the early 1980s led to a two-year war that left an estimated 30 gangsters dead, 70 others wounded and more than 500 in police custody. However, there are no statistics on the number of civilians killed or injured in the violence.
c-g04-eng.gif

Hey Mr. Statistics....why don't you do us a little more.

Take out the black on black.....let us know where we land.
Since the ******* aren't leaving on the next boat, who the fuck besides a White-Pride Hitler-Youth cares? Oh right, no one.

No wonder you are working another 20 years....moron.

But, let's see......

I don't live where there is a lot of black on black..........

So, I am pretty certain, my odds are lower....a lot lot lower.

But, since you the logical, math using, statistician....you'd already know that.

So, you are right....I don't care about your chart. It is not issue for me.

And...BTW: I live where guns sell like bubble gum.

Why don't you pull your head out of your left wing ass ?
I will work until the day I die. Retirement = death. And if there are 10 ******* within five miles of here, it would have to be a Kill Whitey concert.

I have a gun within five feet, just in case I need to kill something. Care to try again, Hitler Youth?
 
No amount of money is worth taking a human life over, ever. Clear?

You are avoiding the question or can you not read ?

This isn't about money.

Got it ? or Clear ?

This is ME asking YOU...at what probability that she will robbed and then knifed is she justified in blowing his balls off ? All you have to do is answer 5%, 10% or 100% (which is your current stupid answer).

Clear ?
The odds? Roughly 0. That is why corporate policy, hand over the money and no one gets hurt, is what it is.

Still can't read, can you ?

I didn't ask what they were...I am asking you, hypothetically, what they would need to be to justify shooting the guy.

Are you purposely being evasive ?

Or are you just stupid ?
The odds necessary to justify such a thing, 100%. Clear?

So, if she has a 50% chance getting knifed...you are saying she should keep the gun in her purse.

No wonder we lost in Vietnam.
Robbers want money, and that's all, almost without exception. And Vietnam, like Iran, was lost before it even started.
 
You mean like this Japan...see...Japanese people are law abiding, their culture is not criminal...except for the criminals.....the normal Japanese citizens do not commit crime so they do not break the law about guns...so gun control works for people who obey the law....not so much for those who don't obey the law...

Gangs buying up guns and hitmen.....2015

Yakuza rivals buying up guns, recruiting assassins - AJW by The Asahi Shimbun

By proposing high pay, the recruiters are trying to encourage the gang warfare by hinting that those who carry out the first hits will be paid more,” the source said.

A former high-ranking gang member living in the Kanto region said he began receiving calls asking about the availability of loaded guns from around late August, when the Yamaguchi-gumi split came to light.

The calls, eight in total, to the former gangster’s mobile phone continued into September.

Without saying who made the calls, the former gangster said the requests likely came from both sides involved in the Yamaguchi-gumi breakup.

The large number of intermediaries involved in supplying guns made it difficult to pinpoint who was actually going on the shopping spree, the former mobster said.



-----------------
By Benjamin David Baker
November 20, 2015

Japan Faces a Possible Mob War After Yakuza Gang Fractures

However, few things are more dangerous than when mob families go to war.

This fear seems to have been vindicated. According to the Asahi Shimbun, both the Yamaguchi-gumi and the thirteen splinter groups have been busy buying up weapons and lining up hitmen. The first shots in this mob war might have already been fired outside a hot spring facility in Iida, Nagano Prefecture. The 43-year-old man who was shot and killed outside a bathhouse on October 6 wanted to leave a Yamaguchi-gumi affiliate and join the newly formed rival organization consisting of the rebel gangs.

In what might be retaliation for this murder, a boss in the original Yamaguchi-gumi was killed on Sunday. Tatsuyuki Hishida was found tied up in his apartment after being bludgeoned to death. Police report that the killing was most likely in response to the Yamaguchi-gumi’s split.

The Japanese government has good reason to fear a gang war. Between 1985 and 1987, 25 Yakuza members were killedand around 70 were injured in a feud involving affiliated rival gangs. That bloodshed was triggered in part over disagreement over who should become the head of the Yamaguchi-gumi. A few years ago, another war broke out between two rival gangs on the southern island of Kyushu, in which mobsters attacked each other with machine guns and grenades.







-------------
The Great Japanese Gang Wars

The season for pineapples (yakuza slang for hand grenades) may finally be over. Jake Adelstein and Nathalie-Kyoko Stucky on the bloody, seven-year battle between the Dojin-kai and the Seido-kai.


In Southern Japan, the brutal pineapple season may finally be over; pineapple is yakuza slang for “hand grenade”—one of the many weapons utilized in a seven-year gang war between the Dojin-kai (1,000 members) and the splinter group the Kyushu Seido-kei (500 members).

It’s a gang war in which there have been over 45 violent incidents, including bombings, shots exchanged during high-speed car chases, and 14 deaths. At least seven deaths, including one civilian's, were from gunfire; a phenomenally high figure when you consider the number of gun deaths for all of Japan in 2011 was eight people. (Japan has some of the strictest gun-control laws in the world.)

On June 11, senior members of the Dojin-kai and the Kyushu Seido-kai (a.k.a. Seido-kai) visited the Fukuoka Police Kurume Police Station with an official announcement that they were ending the conflict. TheSeido-kai brought a virtual white flag, a notification of their dissolution (解散届け), in which they wrote, “For a long time we have made everyone ill at ease, disturbed people, and been a nuisance to society. We have decided our breakup is the only way to restore peace.” The Dojin-kai in turn proclaimed, “Since the Seido-kai is dissolved, this situation is over and we apologize to people and the authorities for the anxiety we have caused.”
----
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Handouts for Hand Grenades: Yakuza Gang War Leads to an Explosive Bounty

TOKYO -- Japan’s Fukuoka Prefecture Police have become the first in Japan to offer cash rewards to anyone who reports finding a hand grenade (or "pineapples" in yakuza slang) starting today, April 2. A long-running gang war in the prefecture has raised public fear in the area, and the handy hand-grenade has increasingly become the weapon of choice amongst rival gang members. As Japan has put into place increasingly harsher laws regulating the actions of the Japanese mafia, aka the yakuza, forcing many out of business--the remaining thugs are fighting viciously over what's left of the pie

When gang members aren't lobbing grenades or shooting at each other, they are shooting at the offices of companies trying to cut organized crime Last year, on Nov. 26, Toshihiro Uchino, the 72-year-old president of Hakushin Construction --which was trying to cut ties to local gangs---was shot to death outside his home in Kitakyushu.


The most violent of the groups and considered the primary user of hand grenades is the Kyushu Seidokai. The Kyushu Seidokai has expanded into Tokyo, setting up several front companies, and joined forces with Tadamasa Goto, a former Yamaguchi-gumi boss turned Buddhist priest, who has now re-emerged as a powerful player in Japan's underworld. Tokyo Police are also worried that "pineapples" may be thrown around the metropolis in the near future. "A coalition between Goto and the Kyushu Seido-kai doesn't bode well for the public safety," said a detective who works organized crime. "We’re not excited about the possibility of yakuza lobbing grenades into Tokyo offices and homes."
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Japan braces for violence among 'yakuza' crime gangs

TOKYO — Japan is bracing for war.

Not with other countries, but with the nation's notorious gangsters.

A 43-year-old man was gunned down in the parking lot of a hot springs resort in western Japan earlier this month in what authorities say they fear could be the start of a deadly war among the nation's largest organized crime gangs, known collectively as the yakuza.

The powerful Yamaguchi-gumi crime syndicate, which marked its 100th anniversary this year, split into two rival groups in September. Police arrested a member of the Yamaguchi-gumi in the hot springs shooting and identified the victim as a member of the breakaway group.

Analysts said the rupture was due to long-running disputes over succession plans and high fees that member groups were required to pay Yamaguchi-gumi leaders.
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A dispute over the gang’s leadership in the early 1980s led to a two-year war that left an estimated 30 gangsters dead, 70 others wounded and more than 500 in police custody. However, there are no statistics on the number of civilians killed or injured in the violence.
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Hey Mr. Statistics....why don't you do us a little more.

Take out the black on black.....let us know where we land.
Since the ******* aren't leaving on the next boat, who the fuck besides a White-Pride Hitler-Youth cares? Oh right, no one.

No wonder you are working another 20 years....moron.

But, let's see......

I don't live where there is a lot of black on black..........

So, I am pretty certain, my odds are lower....a lot lot lower.

But, since you the logical, math using, statistician....you'd already know that.

So, you are right....I don't care about your chart. It is not issue for me.

And...BTW: I live where guns sell like bubble gum.

Why don't you pull your head out of your left wing ass ?
I will work until the day I die. Retirement = death. And if there are 10 ******* within five miles of here, it would have to be a Kill Whitey concert.

I have a gun within five feet, just in case I need to kill something. Care to try again, Hitler Youth?

Says nothing about my post.

Yes, you will work until you die.

You are one stupid moron.
 
You are avoiding the question or can you not read ?

This isn't about money.

Got it ? or Clear ?

This is ME asking YOU...at what probability that she will robbed and then knifed is she justified in blowing his balls off ? All you have to do is answer 5%, 10% or 100% (which is your current stupid answer).

Clear ?
The odds? Roughly 0. That is why corporate policy, hand over the money and no one gets hurt, is what it is.

Still can't read, can you ?

I didn't ask what they were...I am asking you, hypothetically, what they would need to be to justify shooting the guy.

Are you purposely being evasive ?

Or are you just stupid ?
The odds necessary to justify such a thing, 100%. Clear?

So, if she has a 50% chance getting knifed...you are saying she should keep the gun in her purse.

No wonder we lost in Vietnam.
Robbers want money, and that's all, almost without exception. And Vietnam, like Iran, was lost before it even started.

Yep, because of people like you.

You keep the gun under your seat the next time you are approached.

Me, I'll give the guy a choice. Right leg or left leg or inbetween.
 

Hey Mr. Statistics....why don't you do us a little more.

Take out the black on black.....let us know where we land.
Since the ******* aren't leaving on the next boat, who the fuck besides a White-Pride Hitler-Youth cares? Oh right, no one.

No wonder you are working another 20 years....moron.

But, let's see......

I don't live where there is a lot of black on black..........

So, I am pretty certain, my odds are lower....a lot lot lower.

But, since you the logical, math using, statistician....you'd already know that.

So, you are right....I don't care about your chart. It is not issue for me.

And...BTW: I live where guns sell like bubble gum.

Why don't you pull your head out of your left wing ass ?
I will work until the day I die. Retirement = death. And if there are 10 ******* within five miles of here, it would have to be a Kill Whitey concert.

I have a gun within five feet, just in case I need to kill something. Care to try again, Hitler Youth?

Says nothing about my post.

Yes, you will work until you die.

You are one stupid moron.
Retirement = death. Pay attention.
 
You are avoiding the question or can you not read ?

This isn't about money.

Got it ? or Clear ?

This is ME asking YOU...at what probability that she will robbed and then knifed is she justified in blowing his balls off ? All you have to do is answer 5%, 10% or 100% (which is your current stupid answer).

Clear ?
The odds? Roughly 0. That is why corporate policy, hand over the money and no one gets hurt, is what it is.

Still can't read, can you ?

I didn't ask what they were...I am asking you, hypothetically, what they would need to be to justify shooting the guy.

Are you purposely being evasive ?

Or are you just stupid ?
The odds necessary to justify such a thing, 100%. Clear?

So, if she has a 50% chance getting knifed...you are saying she should keep the gun in her purse.

No wonder we lost in Vietnam.
Robbers want money, and that's all, almost without exception. And Vietnam, like Iran, was lost before it even started.

And they'll threaten your life to get it.......get it ?
 
The odds? Roughly 0. That is why corporate policy, hand over the money and no one gets hurt, is what it is.

Still can't read, can you ?

I didn't ask what they were...I am asking you, hypothetically, what they would need to be to justify shooting the guy.

Are you purposely being evasive ?

Or are you just stupid ?
The odds necessary to justify such a thing, 100%. Clear?

So, if she has a 50% chance getting knifed...you are saying she should keep the gun in her purse.

No wonder we lost in Vietnam.
Robbers want money, and that's all, almost without exception. And Vietnam, like Iran, was lost before it even started.

And they'll threaten your life to get it.......get it ?
So? Oh right, doesn't change anything.
 
She's batting 1000

He's on the disability list.

That's the way it should be.

That or he should be "retired".
 
Still can't read, can you ?

I didn't ask what they were...I am asking you, hypothetically, what they would need to be to justify shooting the guy.

Are you purposely being evasive ?

Or are you just stupid ?
The odds necessary to justify such a thing, 100%. Clear?

So, if she has a 50% chance getting knifed...you are saying she should keep the gun in her purse.

No wonder we lost in Vietnam.
Robbers want money, and that's all, almost without exception. And Vietnam, like Iran, was lost before it even started.

And they'll threaten your life to get it.......get it ?
So? Oh right, doesn't change anything.

You are correct....he'll pay if he comes at me with a knife.
 
Yes...another case of someone who needs to give up the thug life....it doesn't suit him....but the handcuffs do....

And this woman was not disarmed by the thug, she did not just spray the area with bullets....and she does not seem to be a Navy SEAL......

Woman Shoots Attempted Robber

A man was shot after he allegedly tried to rob a woman in downtown Louisville.
According to Louisville Metro Police Department spokeswoman Alicia Smiley, a woman was sitting in her vehicle in the parking garage near the intersection of 5th and Jefferson Streets when a man with a knife approached her then demanded money and her purse, around 6:15 p.m. Tuesday.
The woman pulled out a gun and shot the man. The man fled to the PNC Plaza where he stopped and police were called. The woman also flagged down police.
The man was taken to University of Louisville Hospital for treatment with non-life threatening injuries.
Should have learned how to dodge...
 
Yes.....corporate policy is nice for the corporation...you will be the one in the hospital or morgue. The police carry guns....they get to make a choice...you don't want people to have a choice or a backup plan if the robber is outside your statistical model....
No clerks with guns, no robbers with guns. It works elsewhere...


Actually it doesn't. Britain has 2x the violence rate that we do and their gun crime levels stayed the same after the confiscation....France....their criminals and terrorists get fully automatic military rifles whenever they want them...it is very easy.

Gun control will only keep law abiding people from getting guns....the people who are not using them to commit crimes.
Gun control works, where there are no guns, or very few, like Japan. Give it up.


You mean like this Japan...see...Japanese people are law abiding, their culture is not criminal...except for the criminals.....the normal Japanese citizens do not commit crime so they do not break the law about guns...so gun control works for people who obey the law....not so much for those who don't obey the law...

Gangs buying up guns and hitmen.....2015

Yakuza rivals buying up guns, recruiting assassins - AJW by The Asahi Shimbun

By proposing high pay, the recruiters are trying to encourage the gang warfare by hinting that those who carry out the first hits will be paid more,” the source said.

A former high-ranking gang member living in the Kanto region said he began receiving calls asking about the availability of loaded guns from around late August, when the Yamaguchi-gumi split came to light.

The calls, eight in total, to the former gangster’s mobile phone continued into September.

Without saying who made the calls, the former gangster said the requests likely came from both sides involved in the Yamaguchi-gumi breakup.

The large number of intermediaries involved in supplying guns made it difficult to pinpoint who was actually going on the shopping spree, the former mobster said.



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By Benjamin David Baker
November 20, 2015

Japan Faces a Possible Mob War After Yakuza Gang Fractures

However, few things are more dangerous than when mob families go to war.

This fear seems to have been vindicated. According to the Asahi Shimbun, both the Yamaguchi-gumi and the thirteen splinter groups have been busy buying up weapons and lining up hitmen. The first shots in this mob war might have already been fired outside a hot spring facility in Iida, Nagano Prefecture. The 43-year-old man who was shot and killed outside a bathhouse on October 6 wanted to leave a Yamaguchi-gumi affiliate and join the newly formed rival organization consisting of the rebel gangs.

In what might be retaliation for this murder, a boss in the original Yamaguchi-gumi was killed on Sunday. Tatsuyuki Hishida was found tied up in his apartment after being bludgeoned to death. Police report that the killing was most likely in response to the Yamaguchi-gumi’s split.

The Japanese government has good reason to fear a gang war. Between 1985 and 1987, 25 Yakuza members were killedand around 70 were injured in a feud involving affiliated rival gangs. That bloodshed was triggered in part over disagreement over who should become the head of the Yamaguchi-gumi. A few years ago, another war broke out between two rival gangs on the southern island of Kyushu, in which mobsters attacked each other with machine guns and grenades.







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The Great Japanese Gang Wars

The season for pineapples (yakuza slang for hand grenades) may finally be over. Jake Adelstein and Nathalie-Kyoko Stucky on the bloody, seven-year battle between the Dojin-kai and the Seido-kai.


In Southern Japan, the brutal pineapple season may finally be over; pineapple is yakuza slang for “hand grenade”—one of the many weapons utilized in a seven-year gang war between the Dojin-kai (1,000 members) and the splinter group the Kyushu Seido-kei (500 members).

It’s a gang war in which there have been over 45 violent incidents, including bombings, shots exchanged during high-speed car chases, and 14 deaths. At least seven deaths, including one civilian's, were from gunfire; a phenomenally high figure when you consider the number of gun deaths for all of Japan in 2011 was eight people. (Japan has some of the strictest gun-control laws in the world.)

On June 11, senior members of the Dojin-kai and the Kyushu Seido-kai (a.k.a. Seido-kai) visited the Fukuoka Police Kurume Police Station with an official announcement that they were ending the conflict. TheSeido-kai brought a virtual white flag, a notification of their dissolution (解散届け), in which they wrote, “For a long time we have made everyone ill at ease, disturbed people, and been a nuisance to society. We have decided our breakup is the only way to restore peace.” The Dojin-kai in turn proclaimed, “Since the Seido-kai is dissolved, this situation is over and we apologize to people and the authorities for the anxiety we have caused.”
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Handouts for Hand Grenades: Yakuza Gang War Leads to an Explosive Bounty

TOKYO -- Japan’s Fukuoka Prefecture Police have become the first in Japan to offer cash rewards to anyone who reports finding a hand grenade (or "pineapples" in yakuza slang) starting today, April 2. A long-running gang war in the prefecture has raised public fear in the area, and the handy hand-grenade has increasingly become the weapon of choice amongst rival gang members. As Japan has put into place increasingly harsher laws regulating the actions of the Japanese mafia, aka the yakuza, forcing many out of business--the remaining thugs are fighting viciously over what's left of the pie

When gang members aren't lobbing grenades or shooting at each other, they are shooting at the offices of companies trying to cut organized crime Last year, on Nov. 26, Toshihiro Uchino, the 72-year-old president of Hakushin Construction --which was trying to cut ties to local gangs---was shot to death outside his home in Kitakyushu.


The most violent of the groups and considered the primary user of hand grenades is the Kyushu Seidokai. The Kyushu Seidokai has expanded into Tokyo, setting up several front companies, and joined forces with Tadamasa Goto, a former Yamaguchi-gumi boss turned Buddhist priest, who has now re-emerged as a powerful player in Japan's underworld. Tokyo Police are also worried that "pineapples" may be thrown around the metropolis in the near future. "A coalition between Goto and the Kyushu Seido-kai doesn't bode well for the public safety," said a detective who works organized crime. "We’re not excited about the possibility of yakuza lobbing grenades into Tokyo offices and homes."
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Japan braces for violence among 'yakuza' crime gangs

TOKYO — Japan is bracing for war.

Not with other countries, but with the nation's notorious gangsters.

A 43-year-old man was gunned down in the parking lot of a hot springs resort in western Japan earlier this month in what authorities say they fear could be the start of a deadly war among the nation's largest organized crime gangs, known collectively as the yakuza.

The powerful Yamaguchi-gumi crime syndicate, which marked its 100th anniversary this year, split into two rival groups in September. Police arrested a member of the Yamaguchi-gumi in the hot springs shooting and identified the victim as a member of the breakaway group.

Analysts said the rupture was due to long-running disputes over succession plans and high fees that member groups were required to pay Yamaguchi-gumi leaders.
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A dispute over the gang’s leadership in the early 1980s led to a two-year war that left an estimated 30 gangsters dead, 70 others wounded and more than 500 in police custody. However, there are no statistics on the number of civilians killed or injured in the violence.
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And so......that has nothing to do with access to guns. Their criminals, in Europe, Japan, Australia all get guns easily.

The thing is....their criminals don't murder each other as often as our criminals do.

We had 8,124 gun murders in 2014...in a country with over 357 million guns in private hands. That means that less than 8,124 of those guns were used to commit murder, and the majority of those murders were criminals murdering other criminals..

That means that 356,991,876 million guns were in private hands and not used to commit murder. We have a criminal problem, not a gun problem.

Japan....they have very little of any kind of crime, why, their culture, and their police state. What they do there you anti gun loons would never allow.

And when their criminals want or need to kill each other, they get guns...and grenades. The Japanese criminals don't like to loose money...killing is bad for their business.

What we have here are very young criminals, raised by single teenage mothers, without the influence of adult males to teach them how to be men and how to control themselves......
 
Yes...another case of someone who needs to give up the thug life....it doesn't suit him....but the handcuffs do....

And this woman was not disarmed by the thug, she did not just spray the area with bullets....and she does not seem to be a Navy SEAL......

Woman Shoots Attempted Robber

A man was shot after he allegedly tried to rob a woman in downtown Louisville.
According to Louisville Metro Police Department spokeswoman Alicia Smiley, a woman was sitting in her vehicle in the parking garage near the intersection of 5th and Jefferson Streets when a man with a knife approached her then demanded money and her purse, around 6:15 p.m. Tuesday.
The woman pulled out a gun and shot the man. The man fled to the PNC Plaza where he stopped and police were called. The woman also flagged down police.
The man was taken to University of Louisville Hospital for treatment with non-life threatening injuries.
And if he has a gun? Oh right, 50-50, at best.

And, case in point, all he wanted was money, not worth shooting anyone over, ever.

How was she supposed to know all his intent was to take the money and run rather than also take her life with his knife. She did the right thing shooting him. That was a justified shooting. My guess is if she was carrying she was skilled. Why, in that case, would it be 50-50 at best? Because she was a woman and therefore couldn't handle a gun? Think again.
 

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