TODAY IS THE 20 YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING

[whitehall]

It isn't clear where McVeigh's political loyalties were. McVeigh wasn't saying so the media assumed he was a "right wing yada yada" but he belonged to a loosely knit seemingly left wing group called "Elhoim" and was apparently friends with the likely JD#2 who was a former East German police officer who apparently fled back to Germany. Why the feds didn't track him down is anybody's guess.

 

[2aguy]

Just couldn't help yourself in making it political.

It was a right wing, anti-government terrorist, you nincompoop.

Not necessarily right wing...there are left wing anti government types....just ask obama and his friend bill ayers and bernadine dohrn...in fact the bomber was turned against the first Gulf War didnt' he.....?

Obama was what....4 years old? Think you can reach back a little further in time, ding-dong?

Well asshole....I said he was like bill ayers in bernadine dohrn...friends of obama who were also domestic terrorists who bombed federal buildings........they weren't my friends they were obama's friends even when he knew who they were and what they did.....

 

[2aguy]

He was right that Waco and Ruby Ridge were government attrocities, but killing people wasn't the solution to that, it was unmitigated murder, it doesn't matter if he was right.

That has nothing to do with selifie girl making the anniversary political

Wowza!

Yes, Slick and Reno murdered a lot of innocent people. Killing more innocent people wasn't the answer to that. I oppose the death penalty, but he should have never seen the light of day as a free man again.

You have anything coherent to say or you just boing with "wowza?" Maybe you could put the phone down and pay attention to the discussion

What a crock of shit. That whole incident could have been avoided if white supremacist, Randy Weaver had only cooperated, instead he was an anti-government, paranoid lunatic who refused to cooperate, or even attend his court hearings. His wife believed that the apocalypse was imminent. What happened was unfortunate, but it could have all been avoided.

No, that's wrong. Randy Weaver did not attend his court date because he was sent a summons with the wrong date on it. In other words: the COURT fucked up!

The idiot wouldn't answer his phone for his attorney, when his attorney tried to contact him over the matter. He was a religious, gun crazed nutcase.

Actually that is wrong....he was not religious.....he was not christian......that is a lie perpetrated by the left.....

 

[Carla_Danger]

It isn't clear where McVeigh's political loyalties were. McVeigh wasn't saying so the media assumed he was a "right wing yada yada" but he belonged to a loosely knit seemingly left wing group called "Elhoim" and was apparently friends with the likely JD#2 who was a former East German police officer who apparently fled back to Germany. Why the feds didn't track him down is anybody's guess.

LOL!

 

[Carla_Danger]

Wowza!

Yes, Slick and Reno murdered a lot of innocent people. Killing more innocent people wasn't the answer to that. I oppose the death penalty, but he should have never seen the light of day as a free man again.

You have anything coherent to say or you just boing with "wowza?" Maybe you could put the phone down and pay attention to the discussion

What a crock of shit. That whole incident could have been avoided if white supremacist, Randy Weaver had only cooperated, instead he was an anti-government, paranoid lunatic who refused to cooperate, or even attend his court hearings. His wife believed that the apocalypse was imminent. What happened was unfortunate, but it could have all been avoided.

No, that's wrong. Randy Weaver did not attend his court date because he was sent a summons with the wrong date on it. In other words: the COURT fucked up!

The idiot wouldn't answer his phone for his attorney, when his attorney tried to contact him over the matter. He was a religious, gun crazed nutcase.

Actually that is wrong....he was not religious.....he was not christian......that is a lie perpetrated by the left.....

They couldn't find a church radical enough for their beliefs.

 

[2aguy]

Yes, Slick and Reno murdered a lot of innocent people. Killing more innocent people wasn't the answer to that. I oppose the death penalty, but he should have never seen the light of day as a free man again.

You have anything coherent to say or you just boing with "wowza?" Maybe you could put the phone down and pay attention to the discussion

What a crock of shit. That whole incident could have been avoided if white supremacist, Randy Weaver had only cooperated, instead he was an anti-government, paranoid lunatic who refused to cooperate, or even attend his court hearings. His wife believed that the apocalypse was imminent. What happened was unfortunate, but it could have all been avoided.

No, that's wrong. Randy Weaver did not attend his court date because he was sent a summons with the wrong date on it. In other words: the COURT fucked up!

The idiot wouldn't answer his phone for his attorney, when his attorney tried to contact him over the matter. He was a religious, gun crazed nutcase.

Actually that is wrong....he was not religious.....he was not christian......that is a lie perpetrated by the left.....

They couldn't find a church radical enough for their beliefs.

No.....he said specifically he was not a christian....he followed Nietsche......hmmmm...I believe the socialists in Germany were big fans of his as well....

 

[2aguy]

Yes, Slick and Reno murdered a lot of innocent people. Killing more innocent people wasn't the answer to that. I oppose the death penalty, but he should have never seen the light of day as a free man again.

You have anything coherent to say or you just boing with "wowza?" Maybe you could put the phone down and pay attention to the discussion

What a crock of shit. That whole incident could have been avoided if white supremacist, Randy Weaver had only cooperated, instead he was an anti-government, paranoid lunatic who refused to cooperate, or even attend his court hearings. His wife believed that the apocalypse was imminent. What happened was unfortunate, but it could have all been avoided.

No, that's wrong. Randy Weaver did not attend his court date because he was sent a summons with the wrong date on it. In other words: the COURT fucked up!

The idiot wouldn't answer his phone for his attorney, when his attorney tried to contact him over the matter. He was a religious, gun crazed nutcase.

Actually that is wrong....he was not religious.....he was not christian......that is a lie perpetrated by the left.....

They couldn't find a church radical enough for their beliefs.

And Christians would not blow up a building....Jesus never said if you disagree with Ceasar...blow up one of his buildings...did he....?

 

[tinydancer]

Yeah, but don't forget it was Rush who influenced McVeigh's awful action.

Holy fuck. You want to back that up asshole?

I don't know if Rush influenced McVeigh or not, but McVeigh was an avid listener of right-wing radio.

Carla you know I rarely take issue with what you post. You amuse me most times. Good left winger. Mostly a true lib and you are rare.Glad you are out there.

But and its a big but to blame McVeigh on talk radio is beyond the pale. I'm a mega listener. It's all I have Carla. I don't have television. I have nothing but radio and I can tell you right here and now no one not one talker has ever advocated violence. EVER.

 

[tinydancer]

Now and forever McVeigh had the mark of a suicide bomber. Where does that lead us?

 

[Carla_Danger]

Wowza!

Yes, Slick and Reno murdered a lot of innocent people. Killing more innocent people wasn't the answer to that. I oppose the death penalty, but he should have never seen the light of day as a free man again.

You have anything coherent to say or you just boing with "wowza?" Maybe you could put the phone down and pay attention to the discussion

What a crock of shit. That whole incident could have been avoided if white supremacist, Randy Weaver had only cooperated, instead he was an anti-government, paranoid lunatic who refused to cooperate, or even attend his court hearings. His wife believed that the apocalypse was imminent. What happened was unfortunate, but it could have all been avoided.

No, that's wrong. Randy Weaver did not attend his court date because he was sent a summons with the wrong date on it. In other words: the COURT fucked up!

The idiot wouldn't answer his phone for his attorney, when his attorney tried to contact him over the matter. He was a religious, gun crazed nutcase.

Actually that is wrong....he was not religious.....he was not christian......that is a lie perpetrated by the left.....

You have no clue of what you're talking about.

In 1978, Vicki read a book that began what would be a long-term drift toward a Christianity-based apocalyptic view of the world. Hal Lindsey's The Late Great Planet Earth applied his interpretation of the prophesies of the Old Testament to the events of current times and concluded that we were now in "the end time." A nuclear holocaust and Armageddon were just around the corner, but the good news was that Jesus would return to Earth. Violence and pestilence soon would fall upon the planet, and Christians persecuted, in a terrible time called The Great Tribulation. Then there would be The Rapture, and true believers selected by God to join him in Paradise. Vicki and Randy began to share with friends their plan of moving to a mountain top, as far as possible from false governments, desperate people, and hunters of good Christians like themselves. "We've been having this vision," Vicki would say.

The Randy Weaver Ruby Ridge Trial An Account

 

[2aguy]

Yes, Slick and Reno murdered a lot of innocent people. Killing more innocent people wasn't the answer to that. I oppose the death penalty, but he should have never seen the light of day as a free man again.

You have anything coherent to say or you just boing with "wowza?" Maybe you could put the phone down and pay attention to the discussion

What a crock of shit. That whole incident could have been avoided if white supremacist, Randy Weaver had only cooperated, instead he was an anti-government, paranoid lunatic who refused to cooperate, or even attend his court hearings. His wife believed that the apocalypse was imminent. What happened was unfortunate, but it could have all been avoided.

No, that's wrong. Randy Weaver did not attend his court date because he was sent a summons with the wrong date on it. In other words: the COURT fucked up!

The idiot wouldn't answer his phone for his attorney, when his attorney tried to contact him over the matter. He was a religious, gun crazed nutcase.

Actually that is wrong....he was not religious.....he was not christian......that is a lie perpetrated by the left.....

You have no clue of what you're talking about.

In 1978, Vicki read a book that began what would be a long-term drift toward a Christianity-based apocalyptic view of the world. Hal Lindsey's The Late Great Planet Earth applied his interpretation of the prophesies of the Old Testament to the events of current times and concluded that we were now in "the end time." A nuclear holocaust and Armageddon were just around the corner, but the good news was that Jesus would return to Earth. Violence and pestilence soon would fall upon the planet, and Christians persecuted, in a terrible time called The Great Tribulation. Then there would be The Rapture, and true believers selected by God to join him in Paradise. Vicki and Randy began to share with friends their plan of moving to a mountain top, as far as possible from false governments, desperate people, and hunters of good Christians like themselves. "We've been having this vision," Vicki would say.

The Randy Weaver Ruby Ridge Trial An Account

I didn't talk about the Weavers...someone else did....save your hate for them.........of course someone like you has vast reserves of hate and jealousy to tap into.....

 

[2aguy]

Yes, Slick and Reno murdered a lot of innocent people. Killing more innocent people wasn't the answer to that. I oppose the death penalty, but he should have never seen the light of day as a free man again.

You have anything coherent to say or you just boing with "wowza?" Maybe you could put the phone down and pay attention to the discussion

What a crock of shit. That whole incident could have been avoided if white supremacist, Randy Weaver had only cooperated, instead he was an anti-government, paranoid lunatic who refused to cooperate, or even attend his court hearings. His wife believed that the apocalypse was imminent. What happened was unfortunate, but it could have all been avoided.

No, that's wrong. Randy Weaver did not attend his court date because he was sent a summons with the wrong date on it. In other words: the COURT fucked up!

The idiot wouldn't answer his phone for his attorney, when his attorney tried to contact him over the matter. He was a religious, gun crazed nutcase.

Actually that is wrong....he was not religious.....he was not christian......that is a lie perpetrated by the left.....

You have no clue of what you're talking about.

In 1978, Vicki read a book that began what would be a long-term drift toward a Christianity-based apocalyptic view of the world. Hal Lindsey's The Late Great Planet Earth applied his interpretation of the prophesies of the Old Testament to the events of current times and concluded that we were now in "the end time." A nuclear holocaust and Armageddon were just around the corner, but the good news was that Jesus would return to Earth. Violence and pestilence soon would fall upon the planet, and Christians persecuted, in a terrible time called The Great Tribulation. Then there would be The Rapture, and true believers selected by God to join him in Paradise. Vicki and Randy began to share with friends their plan of moving to a mountain top, as far as possible from false governments, desperate people, and hunters of good Christians like themselves. "We've been having this vision," Vicki would say.

The Randy Weaver Ruby Ridge Trial An Account

Oh...I get it.....you meant my post about Christians not blowing up buildings....you are still wrong...Christians don't blow up buildings....it is against the teachings of Jesus.....you know...the main guy in Christianity.....and he never taught blowing up buildings or killing innocent people...

If people blew up buildings in God's name according to the 10 commandments doing evil in the Lord's name is the one sin that cannot, and will not be forgiven........

 

[2aguy]

Yeah, but don't forget it was Rush who influenced McVeigh's awful action.

Holy fuck. You want to back that up asshole?

I don't know if Rush influenced McVeigh or not, but McVeigh was an avid listener of right-wing radio.

Carla you know I rarely take issue with what you post. You amuse me most times. Good left winger. Mostly a true lib and you are rare.Glad you are out there.

But and its a big but to blame McVeigh on talk radio is beyond the pale. I'm a mega listener. It's all I have Carla. I don't have television. I have nothing but radio and I can tell you right here and now no one not one talker has ever advocated violence. EVER.

They don't listen to talk radio so they don't know the truth.....they listen to other lefties who tell them lies about talk radio.....

 

[whitehall]

It's a terrible thing to kill people with a bomb but McVeigh got what was coming to him. He was executed in a record 7 years as opposed to the usual appeals time of around 15 years and good riddance. It's even more troubling when a serial bomber who terrorized America for a decade and was responsible for the deaths of his comrades by a bomb that testimony indicates was intended to kill Ft. Dix Soldiers, managed to blame the FBI for illegal surveillance and every one of the thousands of felony charges were dismissed by a federal judge. Now he is a political mentor of high ranking democrats including the president.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Yeah, but don't forget it was Rush who influenced McVeigh's awful action.

Holy fuck. You want to back that up asshole?

I don't know if Rush influenced McVeigh or not, but McVeigh was an avid listener of right-wing radio.

Carla you know I rarely take issue with what you post. You amuse me most times. Good left winger. Mostly a true lib and you are rare.Glad you are out there.

But and its a big but to blame McVeigh on talk radio is beyond the pale. I'm a mega listener. It's all I have Carla. I don't have television. I have nothing but radio and I can tell you right here and now no one not one talker has ever advocated violence. EVER.

Well, I just said that I don't know if Rush influenced him or not, but it is a fact that he was a avid right wing radio freak.

I'm sure many things influenced McVeigh, including The Turner Diaries for which they found a copy in his car...his not being able get laid, his money problems, you name it, these were all factors.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Yes, Slick and Reno murdered a lot of innocent people. Killing more innocent people wasn't the answer to that. I oppose the death penalty, but he should have never seen the light of day as a free man again.

You have anything coherent to say or you just boing with "wowza?" Maybe you could put the phone down and pay attention to the discussion

What a crock of shit. That whole incident could have been avoided if white supremacist, Randy Weaver had only cooperated, instead he was an anti-government, paranoid lunatic who refused to cooperate, or even attend his court hearings. His wife believed that the apocalypse was imminent. What happened was unfortunate, but it could have all been avoided.

No, that's wrong. Randy Weaver did not attend his court date because he was sent a summons with the wrong date on it. In other words: the COURT fucked up!

The idiot wouldn't answer his phone for his attorney, when his attorney tried to contact him over the matter. He was a religious, gun crazed nutcase.

Actually that is wrong....he was not religious.....he was not christian......that is a lie perpetrated by the left.....

You have no clue of what you're talking about.

In 1978, Vicki read a book that began what would be a long-term drift toward a Christianity-based apocalyptic view of the world. Hal Lindsey's The Late Great Planet Earth applied his interpretation of the prophesies of the Old Testament to the events of current times and concluded that we were now in "the end time." A nuclear holocaust and Armageddon were just around the corner, but the good news was that Jesus would return to Earth. Violence and pestilence soon would fall upon the planet, and Christians persecuted, in a terrible time called The Great Tribulation. Then there would be The Rapture, and true believers selected by God to join him in Paradise. Vicki and Randy began to share with friends their plan of moving to a mountain top, as far as possible from false governments, desperate people, and hunters of good Christians like themselves. "We've been having this vision," Vicki would say.

The Randy Weaver Ruby Ridge Trial An Account

Continued, from the link above...

Vicki's search for "the truth" led her into libraries and bookstores. She read and found significance in books such as Ayn's Rand'sAtlas Shrugged, a novel warning of the dangers of an all-powerful state, and in the prophetic short stories of H. G. Wells, which dwelled on themes such as Armageddon and Judgment Day. She and Randy began meeting regularly with like-minded radical Christians at the Cedar Falls Sambo's restaurant. Vicki poured over passages from her King James Bible, drawing lessons ranging from what to eat (no unclean meat such as pork or oysters) to how to prepare for the "end time." In Matthew 24 she encountered the passage which reinforced her vision of their future: "Then let them which be in Judea flee into the mountains."

Vicki and Randy were slipping further and further away from mainstream life. They adopted a conspiratorial world view that linked Jews to the Illuminati, Masons, and the Trilateral Commission. Randy began sleeping in a flak jacket with a loaded gun under his pillow. In an interview with a reporter for a Waterloo paper, they said they planned to build a house in the woods with a defensible 300-yard "kill zone" around its perimeter. They became increasingly isolated, as their radical beliefs caused them to lose former friends. In 1983, the couple left Iowa for good, with Randy driving a moving van and Vicki following behind in a pickup truck, heading west to meet the end time in the mountains.

 

[Carla_Danger]

What a crock of shit. That whole incident could have been avoided if white supremacist, Randy Weaver had only cooperated, instead he was an anti-government, paranoid lunatic who refused to cooperate, or even attend his court hearings. His wife believed that the apocalypse was imminent. What happened was unfortunate, but it could have all been avoided.

No, that's wrong. Randy Weaver did not attend his court date because he was sent a summons with the wrong date on it. In other words: the COURT fucked up!

The idiot wouldn't answer his phone for his attorney, when his attorney tried to contact him over the matter. He was a religious, gun crazed nutcase.

Actually that is wrong....he was not religious.....he was not christian......that is a lie perpetrated by the left.....

You have no clue of what you're talking about.

In 1978, Vicki read a book that began what would be a long-term drift toward a Christianity-based apocalyptic view of the world. Hal Lindsey's The Late Great Planet Earth applied his interpretation of the prophesies of the Old Testament to the events of current times and concluded that we were now in "the end time." A nuclear holocaust and Armageddon were just around the corner, but the good news was that Jesus would return to Earth. Violence and pestilence soon would fall upon the planet, and Christians persecuted, in a terrible time called The Great Tribulation. Then there would be The Rapture, and true believers selected by God to join him in Paradise. Vicki and Randy began to share with friends their plan of moving to a mountain top, as far as possible from false governments, desperate people, and hunters of good Christians like themselves. "We've been having this vision," Vicki would say.

The Randy Weaver Ruby Ridge Trial An Account

Oh...I get it.....you meant my post about Christians not blowing up buildings....you are still wrong...Christians don't blow up buildings....it is against the teachings of Jesus.....you know...the main guy in Christianity.....and he never taught blowing up buildings or killing innocent people...

If people blew up buildings in God's name according to the 10 commandments doing evil in the Lord's name is the one sin that cannot, and will not be forgiven........

Let me get you a shovel.

 

[Freewill]

Yeah, but don't forget it was Rush who influenced McVeigh's awful action.

Holy fuck. You want to back that up asshole?

I don't know if Rush influenced McVeigh or not, but McVeigh was an avid listener of right-wing radio.

Carla you know I rarely take issue with what you post. You amuse me most times. Good left winger. Mostly a true lib and you are rare.Glad you are out there.

But and its a big but to blame McVeigh on talk radio is beyond the pale. I'm a mega listener. It's all I have Carla. I don't have television. I have nothing but radio and I can tell you right here and now no one not one talker has ever advocated violence. EVER.

Well, I just said that I don't know if Rush influenced him or not, but it is a fact that he was a avid right wing radio freak.

I'm sure many things influenced McVeigh, including The Turner Diaries for which they found a copy in his car...his not being able get laid, his money problems, you name it, these were all factors.

Could you ever, even once, provide the source for you imaginations?

 

[Carla_Danger]

Yeah, but don't forget it was Rush who influenced McVeigh's awful action.

Holy fuck. You want to back that up asshole?

I don't know if Rush influenced McVeigh or not, but McVeigh was an avid listener of right-wing radio.

Carla you know I rarely take issue with what you post. You amuse me most times. Good left winger. Mostly a true lib and you are rare.Glad you are out there.

But and its a big but to blame McVeigh on talk radio is beyond the pale. I'm a mega listener. It's all I have Carla. I don't have television. I have nothing but radio and I can tell you right here and now no one not one talker has ever advocated violence. EVER.

Well, I just said that I don't know if Rush influenced him or not, but it is a fact that he was a avid right wing radio freak.

I'm sure many things influenced McVeigh, including The Turner Diaries for which they found a copy in his car...his not being able get laid, his money problems, you name it, these were all factors.

Could you ever, even once, provide the source for you imaginations?

Do you know how to use the Google?

 

[blackhawk]

I love how people use the term right wing or left wing anti government fill in the blank if you are right wing you favor a conservative form of govenment if your left wing a liberal form of government so if you favor a specific type of government you are not anti government. To be anti government you would want no form of government and the proper term for those would be anarachist.

There are different types of anarchists....

They all ahare a common theme though no government or authority.