Today...Smashing The Lie That Nazis Were Rightwing.

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

No matter how many times you post the lie that the Nazis were not right wing extremists, you can't make it true.

Fascists are right wing extremists, racist, xenophobic and authoritarian. All were, always will be.




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Nazis were definitely Socialists and were also definitely socially Right wing.

National Socialist is actually the perfect term for them, they were indeed Nationalist Socialists.

 

[2aguy]

Socialists and nazis are incestuous soulmates... really two sides of the same coin.

Can you identify the equivalent views held by Nazis and Liberals on the social issues?

gun control...

Wrong. The Nazis didn't take away all guns.

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them.


The 1938 law signed by Hitler that LaPierre mentions in his book basically does the opposite of what he says it did. “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general. Does the fact that Nazis forced Jews into horrendous ghettos indict urban planning? Should we eliminate all police officers because the Nazis used police officers to oppress and kill the Jews? What about public works — Hitler loved public works projects? Of course not. These are merely implements that can be used for good or ill, much as gun advocates like to argue about guns themselves. If guns don’t kill people, then neither does gun control cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).

The Hitler gun control lie

They loosened gun laws for nazi party members moron....not Jews or their political enemies......what is it about that that you guys don't understand...oh, that's right, you do....you just choose to lie about it....from your own fucking link....

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general.


So, only the people who were loyal to the nazi party were allowed to own guns...and the people who were not allowed to own guns were eventually sent to gas chambers.....are you really this dumb....?

Read some actual history, written by actual historians...not Bill O'Reilly or the NRA head.

I just quoted from your very own link, moron.............the gun control created in the 1920s in Germany....you know...Gun Registration...the thing all you morons want here........was used in the 1930s...all of those records of gun owners....to disarm the enemies of the nazi party....and I just used your own fucking link to show this......

 

[2aguy]

No matter how many times you post the lie that the Nazis were not right wing extremists, you can't make it true.

Fascists are right wing extremists, racist, xenophobic and authoritarian. All were, always will be.




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Nazis were definitely Socialists and were also definitely socially Right wing.

National Socialist is actually the perfect term for them, they were indeed Nationalist Socialists.

Socialism is left wing, not right wing.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

No matter how many times you post the lie that the Nazis were not right wing extremists, you can't make it true.

Fascists are right wing extremists, racist, xenophobic and authoritarian. All were, always will be.




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Nazis were definitely Socialists and were also definitely socially Right wing.

National Socialist is actually the perfect term for them, they were indeed Nationalist Socialists.

Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.

They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.


1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.


2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack

These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:

Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.

similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.

LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.

The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.

The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists

capitalism thrived under the Nazis.

Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.



Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.


3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.


All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.




4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism



When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48



As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.

Is that why they threw the Socialists and other Leftists in Dachau first? Because they were too were Leftwing?

Ron Paul is very different from Donald Trump, they are so different they might fight, but does that make them both somehow not Conservatives?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

No matter how many times you post the lie that the Nazis were not right wing extremists, you can't make it true.

Fascists are right wing extremists, racist, xenophobic and authoritarian. All were, always will be.




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Nazis were definitely Socialists and were also definitely socially Right wing.

National Socialist is actually the perfect term for them, they were indeed Nationalist Socialists.

Socialism is left wing, not right wing.

Nazis were economically left wing Socialist, but were socially far Right wing.

 

[Timmy]

The neo-Nazis running around right now. Are they voting for Democrats? Do you consider them to be liberals?

 

[Timmy]

The neo-Nazis running around right now. Are they voting for Democrats? Do you consider them to be liberals?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The neo-Nazis running around right now. Are they voting for Democrats? Do you consider them to be liberals?

Neo-Nazis generally are against both parties.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Can you identify the equivalent views held by Nazis and Liberals on the social issues?

gun control...

Wrong. The Nazis didn't take away all guns.

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them.


The 1938 law signed by Hitler that LaPierre mentions in his book basically does the opposite of what he says it did. “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general. Does the fact that Nazis forced Jews into horrendous ghettos indict urban planning? Should we eliminate all police officers because the Nazis used police officers to oppress and kill the Jews? What about public works — Hitler loved public works projects? Of course not. These are merely implements that can be used for good or ill, much as gun advocates like to argue about guns themselves. If guns don’t kill people, then neither does gun control cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).

The Hitler gun control lie

They loosened gun laws for nazi party members moron....not Jews or their political enemies......what is it about that that you guys don't understand...oh, that's right, you do....you just choose to lie about it....from your own fucking link....

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general.


So, only the people who were loyal to the nazi party were allowed to own guns...and the people who were not allowed to own guns were eventually sent to gas chambers.....are you really this dumb....?

Read some actual history, written by actual historians...not Bill O'Reilly or the NRA head.

I just quoted from your very own link, moron.............the gun control created in the 1920s in Germany....you know...Gun Registration...the thing all you morons want here........was used in the 1930s...all of those records of gun owners....to disarm the enemies of the nazi party....and I just used your own fucking link to show this......

The gun control of the 20's in Germany was the work of the Weimar Republic which was not a Nazi government.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Can you identify the equivalent views held by Nazis and Liberals on the social issues?

gun control...

Wrong. The Nazis didn't take away all guns.

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them.


The 1938 law signed by Hitler that LaPierre mentions in his book basically does the opposite of what he says it did. “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general. Does the fact that Nazis forced Jews into horrendous ghettos indict urban planning? Should we eliminate all police officers because the Nazis used police officers to oppress and kill the Jews? What about public works — Hitler loved public works projects? Of course not. These are merely implements that can be used for good or ill, much as gun advocates like to argue about guns themselves. If guns don’t kill people, then neither does gun control cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).

The Hitler gun control lie

They loosened gun laws for nazi party members moron....not Jews or their political enemies......what is it about that that you guys don't understand...oh, that's right, you do....you just choose to lie about it....from your own fucking link....

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general.


So, only the people who were loyal to the nazi party were allowed to own guns...and the people who were not allowed to own guns were eventually sent to gas chambers.....are you really this dumb....?

Read some actual history, written by actual historians...not Bill O'Reilly or the NRA head.

I just quoted from your very own link, moron.............the gun control created in the 1920s in Germany....you know...Gun Registration...the thing all you morons want here........was used in the 1930s...all of those records of gun owners....to disarm the enemies of the nazi party....and I just used your own fucking link to show this......

The gun control of the 20's in Germany was the work of the Weimar Republic which was not a Nazi government.

Apparently the

Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.

They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.


1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.


2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack

These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:

Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.

similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.

LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.

The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.

The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists

capitalism thrived under the Nazis.

Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.



Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.


3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.


All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.




4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism



When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48



As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.

Is that why they threw the Socialists and other Leftists in Dachau first? Because they were too were Leftwing?

Apparently the Nazis were anti-liberal liberals.

 

[Billo_Really]

I never saw a left wing skinhead.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.

They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.


1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.


2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack

These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:

Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.

similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.

LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.

The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.

The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists

capitalism thrived under the Nazis.

Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.



Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.


3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.


All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.




4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism



When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48



As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.

It's all FDRs fault

This is the sort of post one would expect from a Rooseveltian boot-licker who'd love to dispute or deny my revelations.....

....but can't.


In effect, you've supported everything I posted.

Now, you're dismissed.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.

They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.


1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.


2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack

These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:

Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.

similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.

LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.

The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.

The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists

capitalism thrived under the Nazis.

Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.



Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.


3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.


All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.




4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism



When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48



As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.

It's all FDRs fault

This is the sort of post one would expect from a Rooseveltian boot-licker who'd love to dispute or deny my revelations.....

....but can't.


In effect, you've supported everything I posted.

Now, you're dismissed.

More far right revisionist history from PropagandaChic

Well, then.....find anything I've posted that isn't true and correct.



Waiting.

 

[2aguy]

Socialists and nazis are incestuous soulmates... really two sides of the same coin.

Can you identify the equivalent views held by Nazis and Liberals on the social issues?

gun control...

Wrong. The Nazis didn't take away all guns.

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them.


The 1938 law signed by Hitler that LaPierre mentions in his book basically does the opposite of what he says it did. “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general. Does the fact that Nazis forced Jews into horrendous ghettos indict urban planning? Should we eliminate all police officers because the Nazis used police officers to oppress and kill the Jews? What about public works — Hitler loved public works projects? Of course not. These are merely implements that can be used for good or ill, much as gun advocates like to argue about guns themselves. If guns don’t kill people, then neither does gun control cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).

The Hitler gun control lie

Boy...this was a stupid post...it shows that the very guy who wrote the 2004 article...is a moron......and you quoted him.....this is again, from your own link from his own article...showing how stupid you anti gunners are and how nothing you say about guns and gun control is even remotely based in Truth, facts or reality....

From his article, which you used in your post....

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general.

(except they were then unarmed when it came time to ship them to the gas chambers...my quote not his)
-----
Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether,

(Which completely contradicts his entire fucking article.......both he, and you are morons)

 

[2aguy]

Socialists and nazis are incestuous soulmates... really two sides of the same coin.

Can you identify the equivalent views held by Nazis and Liberals on the social issues?

gun control...

Wrong. The Nazis didn't take away all guns.

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them.


The 1938 law signed by Hitler that LaPierre mentions in his book basically does the opposite of what he says it did. “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general. Does the fact that Nazis forced Jews into horrendous ghettos indict urban planning? Should we eliminate all police officers because the Nazis used police officers to oppress and kill the Jews? What about public works — Hitler loved public works projects? Of course not. These are merely implements that can be used for good or ill, much as gun advocates like to argue about guns themselves. If guns don’t kill people, then neither does gun control cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).

The Hitler gun control lie

Boy...this was a stupid post...it shows that the very guy who wrote the 2004 article...is a moron......and you quoted him.....this is again, from your own link from his own article...showing how stupid you anti gunners are and how nothing you say about guns and gun control is even remotely based in Truth, facts or reality....

From his article, which you used in your post....

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general.

(except they were then unarmed when it came time to ship them to the gas chambers...my quote not his)
-----
Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether,

(Which completely contradicts his entire fucking article.......both he, and you are morons)

gun control...

Wrong. The Nazis didn't take away all guns.

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them.


The 1938 law signed by Hitler that LaPierre mentions in his book basically does the opposite of what he says it did. “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general. Does the fact that Nazis forced Jews into horrendous ghettos indict urban planning? Should we eliminate all police officers because the Nazis used police officers to oppress and kill the Jews? What about public works — Hitler loved public works projects? Of course not. These are merely implements that can be used for good or ill, much as gun advocates like to argue about guns themselves. If guns don’t kill people, then neither does gun control cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).

The Hitler gun control lie

They loosened gun laws for nazi party members moron....not Jews or their political enemies......what is it about that that you guys don't understand...oh, that's right, you do....you just choose to lie about it....from your own fucking link....

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general.


So, only the people who were loyal to the nazi party were allowed to own guns...and the people who were not allowed to own guns were eventually sent to gas chambers.....are you really this dumb....?

Read some actual history, written by actual historians...not Bill O'Reilly or the NRA head.

I just quoted from your very own link, moron.............the gun control created in the 1920s in Germany....you know...Gun Registration...the thing all you morons want here........was used in the 1930s...all of those records of gun owners....to disarm the enemies of the nazi party....and I just used your own fucking link to show this......

The gun control of the 20's in Germany was the work of the Weimar Republic which was not a Nazi government.

Apparently the

Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.

They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.


1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.


2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack

These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:

Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.

similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.

LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.

The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.

The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists

capitalism thrived under the Nazis.

Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.



Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.


3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.


All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.




4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism



When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48



As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.

Is that why they threw the Socialists and other Leftists in Dachau first? Because they were too were Leftwing?

Apparently the Nazis were anti-liberal liberals.

Yes....exactly....I have posted about this over and over when morons like you tell us that gun registration isn't a bad thing....they registered the guns of Germans in the 1920s....keeping records of all the gun owners.....for their own protection and to keep people safe.....

Notice how that is the same argument you morons make?


And then, in the 1930s...the nazis gained control....and then used the Gun Registration records to disarm Jews and the political enemies of the nazis......

What about gun registration and the nazis is confusing to you?

The nazis were left wing socialists.....

 

[2aguy]

Socialists and nazis are incestuous soulmates... really two sides of the same coin.

Can you identify the equivalent views held by Nazis and Liberals on the social issues?

gun control...

Wrong. The Nazis didn't take away all guns.

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them.


The 1938 law signed by Hitler that LaPierre mentions in his book basically does the opposite of what he says it did. “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general. Does the fact that Nazis forced Jews into horrendous ghettos indict urban planning? Should we eliminate all police officers because the Nazis used police officers to oppress and kill the Jews? What about public works — Hitler loved public works projects? Of course not. These are merely implements that can be used for good or ill, much as gun advocates like to argue about guns themselves. If guns don’t kill people, then neither does gun control cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).

The Hitler gun control lie

Boy...this was a stupid post...it shows that the very guy who wrote the 2004 article...is a moron......and you quoted him.....this is again, from your own link from his own article...showing how stupid you anti gunners are and how nothing you say about guns and gun control is even remotely based in Truth, facts or reality....

From his article, which you used in your post....

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general.

(except they were then unarmed when it came time to ship them to the gas chambers...my quote not his)
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Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether,

(Which completely contradicts his entire fucking article.......both he, and you are morons)

gun control...

Wrong. The Nazis didn't take away all guns.

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them.


The 1938 law signed by Hitler that LaPierre mentions in his book basically does the opposite of what he says it did. “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general. Does the fact that Nazis forced Jews into horrendous ghettos indict urban planning? Should we eliminate all police officers because the Nazis used police officers to oppress and kill the Jews? What about public works — Hitler loved public works projects? Of course not. These are merely implements that can be used for good or ill, much as gun advocates like to argue about guns themselves. If guns don’t kill people, then neither does gun control cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).

The Hitler gun control lie

They loosened gun laws for nazi party members moron....not Jews or their political enemies......what is it about that that you guys don't understand...oh, that's right, you do....you just choose to lie about it....from your own fucking link....

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general.


So, only the people who were loyal to the nazi party were allowed to own guns...and the people who were not allowed to own guns were eventually sent to gas chambers.....are you really this dumb....?

Read some actual history, written by actual historians...not Bill O'Reilly or the NRA head.

I just quoted from your very own link, moron.............the gun control created in the 1920s in Germany....you know...Gun Registration...the thing all you morons want here........was used in the 1930s...all of those records of gun owners....to disarm the enemies of the nazi party....and I just used your own fucking link to show this......

The gun control of the 20's in Germany was the work of the Weimar Republic which was not a Nazi government.

Apparently the

Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.

They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.


1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.


2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack

These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:

Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.

similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.

LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.

The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.

The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists

capitalism thrived under the Nazis.

Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.



Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.


3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.


All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.




4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism



When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48



As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.

Is that why they threw the Socialists and other Leftists in Dachau first? Because they were too were Leftwing?

Apparently the Nazis were anti-liberal liberals.

Yes....exactly....I have posted about this over and over when morons like you tell us that gun registration isn't a bad thing....they registered the guns of Germans in the 1920s....keeping records of all the gun owners.....for their own protection and to keep people safe.....

Notice how that is the same argument you morons make?


And then, in the 1930s...the nazis gained control....and then used the Gun Registration records to disarm Jews and the political enemies of the nazis......

What about gun registration and the

 

[2aguy]

gun control...

Wrong. The Nazis didn't take away all guns.

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them.


The 1938 law signed by Hitler that LaPierre mentions in his book basically does the opposite of what he says it did. “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general. Does the fact that Nazis forced Jews into horrendous ghettos indict urban planning? Should we eliminate all police officers because the Nazis used police officers to oppress and kill the Jews? What about public works — Hitler loved public works projects? Of course not. These are merely implements that can be used for good or ill, much as gun advocates like to argue about guns themselves. If guns don’t kill people, then neither does gun control cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).

The Hitler gun control lie

They loosened gun laws for nazi party members moron....not Jews or their political enemies......what is it about that that you guys don't understand...oh, that's right, you do....you just choose to lie about it....from your own fucking link....

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general.


So, only the people who were loyal to the nazi party were allowed to own guns...and the people who were not allowed to own guns were eventually sent to gas chambers.....are you really this dumb....?

Read some actual history, written by actual historians...not Bill O'Reilly or the NRA head.

I just quoted from your very own link, moron.............the gun control created in the 1920s in Germany....you know...Gun Registration...the thing all you morons want here........was used in the 1930s...all of those records of gun owners....to disarm the enemies of the nazi party....and I just used your own fucking link to show this......

The gun control of the 20's in Germany was the work of the Weimar Republic which was not a Nazi government.

Apparently the

Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.

They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.


1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.


2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack

These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:

Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.

similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.

LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.

The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.

The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists

capitalism thrived under the Nazis.

Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.



Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.


3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.


All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.




4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism



When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48



As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.

Is that why they threw the Socialists and other Leftists in Dachau first? Because they were too were Leftwing?

Apparently the Nazis were anti-liberal liberals.

Yes....exactly....I have posted about this over and over when morons like you tell us that gun registration isn't a bad thing....they registered the guns of Germans in the 1920s....keeping records of all the gun owners.....for their own protection and to keep people safe.....

Notice how that is the same argument you morons make?


And then, in the 1930s...the nazis gained control....and then used the Gun Registration records to disarm Jews and the political enemies of the nazis......

What about gun registration and the nazis is confusing to you?

The nazis were left wing socialists.....

 

[PoliticalChic]

Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.

They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.


1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.


2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack

These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:

Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.

similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.

LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.

The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.

The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists

capitalism thrived under the Nazis.

Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.



Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.


3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.


All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.




4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism



When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48



As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.

Is that why they threw the Socialists and other Leftists in Dachau first? Because they were too were Leftwing?

Siblings do squabble.....

 

[rightwinger]

Nazis hated gays........Consevatives hate gays
Nazis oppressed minorities.......Conservatives oppress minorities
Nazis stressed a fear of the commies.........Conservatives stress fear of Communism
Nazis stressed nationalism.......Consevatives stress nationalism

Nazi = Conservative

 

[WheelieAddict]

Being "dismissed" by a far right North Korean propagandist is hilarious . Tell us how terrible US presidents are and how much you hate the USA PropagandaChic