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Hardly so, the NRA wasn't around in 1787..I am a liberal with a dozens firearms, try again..gun control...Socialists and nazis are incestuous soulmates... really two sides of the same coin.
Can you identify the equivalent views held by Nazis and Liberals on the social issues?
Thanks to the NRA, and the 2nd amendment foundation.
Wrong. The Nazis didn't take away all guns.
University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them.
The 1938 law signed by Hitler that LaPierre mentions in his book basically does the opposite of what he says it did. “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.
The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general. Does the fact that Nazis forced Jews into horrendous ghettos indict urban planning? Should we eliminate all police officers because the Nazis used police officers to oppress and kill the Jews? What about public works — Hitler loved public works projects? Of course not. These are merely implements that can be used for good or ill, much as gun advocates like to argue about guns themselves. If guns don’t kill people, then neither does gun control cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).
The Hitler gun control lie
They loosened gun laws for nazi party members moron....not Jews or their political enemies......what is it about that that you guys don't understand...oh, that's right, you do....you just choose to lie about it....from your own fucking link....
The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general.
So, only the people who were loyal to the nazi party were allowed to own guns...and the people who were not allowed to own guns were eventually sent to gas chambers.....are you really this dumb....?
Read some actual history, written by actual historians...not Bill O'Reilly or the NRA head.
I just quoted from your very own link, moron.............the gun control created in the 1920s in Germany....you know...Gun Registration...the thing all you morons want here........was used in the 1930s...all of those records of gun owners....to disarm the enemies of the nazi party....and I just used your own fucking link to show this......
The gun control of the 20's in Germany was the work of the Weimar Republic which was not a Nazi government.Being "dismissed" by a far right North Korean propagandist is hilarious. Tell us how terrible US presidents are and how much you hate the USA PropagandaChic
I searched you post for any examples of errors in my posts....but all you have to offer is "Is not, Issssss noootttttttt!!!!"
You must be a Liberal fearful of the cl
No matter how many times you post the lie that the Nazis were not right wing extremists, you can't make it true.
Fascists are right wing extremists, racist, xenophobic and authoritarian. All were, always will be.
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Nazis were definitely Socialists and were also definitely socially Right wing.
National Socialist is actually the perfect term for them, they were indeed Nationalist Socialists.
Is that why they threw the Socialists and other Leftists in Dachau first? Because they were too were Leftwing?Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.
They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.
1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.
2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack
These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:
Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.
similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.
LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.
The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.
The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists
capitalism thrived under the Nazis.
Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.
Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.
3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.
All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.
4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism
When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48
As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.
Ron Paul is very different from Donald Trump, they are so different they might fight, but does that make them both somehow not Conservatives?
".... socially Right wing."
Stay with this thread and you will learn how wrong you are.
Nazis were definitely socially far right wing they were Nationalist Racists, who were very pro-German, against Gays, Gypsies, Jews, Slavs, non-Whites, the Mentally ill, and the mentally retarded. they created laws against Germans mixing with non-Germans, they were against abortion for Germans, but supported abortion on enemies of the state to cull their numbers, they supported gun rights for Germans, but were against gun rights for non-Germans.
Bull ShitThe Right wants less gov't control, less gov't intervention, and more freedom for the people. The Left, like the Nazis, want precisely the opposite. Which is why the Nazis and Fascists are both Left wing extremists rather than Right wing. When you go far enough tot he Left you end up with a totalitarian state; when you go far enough tot he Right you end up with no gov't at all, IOW anarchy.
Right, this is obvious to everyone. These modern fascist clowns think they can rewrite history by spreading bs. It's hilarious the effort they put into itI just quoted from your very own link, moron.............the gun control created in the 1920s in Germany....you know...Gun Registration...the thing all you morons want here........was used in the 1930s...all of those records of gun owners....to disarm the enemies of the nazi party....and I just used your own fucking link to show this......
The gun control of the 20's in Germany was the work of the Weimar Republic which was not a Nazi government.Being "dismissed" by a far right North Korean propagandist is hilarious
I searched you post for any examples of errors in my posts....but all you have to offer is "Is not, Issssss noootttttttt!!!!"
You must be a Liberal fearful of the cl
Nazis were definitely Socialists and were also definitely socially Right wing.
National Socialist is actually the perfect term for them, they were indeed Nationalist Socialists.
Ron Paul is very different from Donald Trump, they are so different they might fight, but does that make them both somehow not Conservatives?
".... socially Right wing."
Stay with this thread and you will learn how wrong you are.
Nazis were definitely socially far right wing they were Nationalist Racists, who were very pro-German, against Gays, Gypsies, Jews, Slavs, non-Whites, the Mentally ill, and the mentally retarded. they created laws against Germans mixing with non-Germans, they were against abortion for Germans, but supported abortion on enemies of the state to cull their numbers, they supported gun rights for Germans, but were against gun rights for non-Germans.
Can you find any errors in my carefully constructed, linked, documented and sourced posts?
Any?
No....what do you suppose that shows?
...aside from the fact that you're a dunce?
"carefully constructed, linked, documented and sourced"......repetitious poster is repetitious.......
Sure, and Saddam's Republican Guards were really republicans too. Hitler was a far right, authoritarian, anti-communist, nationalist. The attempt to paint him as some kind of egalitarian socialist and then to try to associate anyone who leans left on any issue as supporting fascism is laughable.na, they called themselves socialists... progressives are repugnant to their very core. If they can't control somebody/the narrative they just can't stand it. LOLNo matter how many times you post the lie that the Nazis were not right wing extremists, you can't make it true.
Fascists are right wing extremists, racist, xenophobic and authoritarian. All were, always will be.
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Now she avoids the point.Yikes, clumsy deflection right there, especially since the second line of my sig is for people like you.And "playing" is a good word for this stuff.you guys are playing with semantics
"You're a Nazi!!"
"No, YOU'RE a Nazi!!"
Like kids on a playground.
.
Except that I provide facts that prove my thesis, FenceSitter.
Unlike you....I'm never afraid to take a real position.
Maybe try again, huh?
.
Please....you don't have to apologize.
I understand, it's your nature.
One day, in the very distant future, you may actually grow a pair.
Happy Mother's Day
What associates that with the right here? Your beliefs are completely devoid of any context. Right wing conservatives here want smaller government, most go to church and believe abortion is wrong for birth control. Where did you get the idea NAZIs wanted their citizens armed if they weren't in the military? You're simply making shit up to fit your beliefs.Nazis were definitely socially far right wing they were Nationalist Racists, who were very pro-German, against Gays, Gypsies, Jews, Slavs, non-Whites, the Mentally ill, and the mentally retarded. they created laws against Germans mixing with non-Germans, they were against abortion for Germans, but supported abortion on enemies of the state to cull their numbers, they supported gun rights for Germans, but were against gun rights for non-Germans.
Right, this is obvious to everyone. These modern fascist clowns think they can rewrite history by spreading bs. It's hilarious the effort they put into itRead some actual history, written by actual historians...not Bill O'Reilly or the NRA head.
I just quoted from your very own link, moron.............the gun control created in the 1920s in Germany....you know...Gun Registration...the thing all you morons want here........was used in the 1930s...all of those records of gun owners....to disarm the enemies of the nazi party....and I just used your own fucking link to show this......
The gun control of the 20's in Germany was the work of the Weimar Republic which was not a Nazi government.Being "dismissed" by a far right North Korean propagandist is hilarious
I searched you post for any examples of errors in my posts....but all you have to offer is "Is not, Issssss noootttttttt!!!!"
You must be a Liberal fearful of the cl
No matter how many times you post the lie that the Nazis were not right wing extremists, you can't make it true.
Fascists are right wing extremists, racist, xenophobic and authoritarian. All were, always will be.
Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com
Nazis were definitely Socialists and were also definitely socially Right wing.
National Socialist is actually the perfect term for them, they were indeed Nationalist Socialists.
Is that why they threw the Socialists and other Leftists in Dachau first? Because they were too were Leftwing?
Ron Paul is very different from Donald Trump, they are so different they might fight, but does that make them both somehow not Conservatives?
".... socially Right wing."
Stay with this thread and you will learn how wrong you are.
Nazis were definitely socially far right wing they were Nationalist Racists, who were very pro-German, against Gays, Gypsies, Jews, Slavs, non-Whites, the Mentally ill, and the mentally retarded. they created laws against Germans mixing with non-Germans, they were against abortion for Germans, but supported abortion on enemies of the state to cull their numbers, they supported gun rights for Germans, but were against gun rights for non-Germans.
Can you find any errors in my carefully constructed, linked, documented and sourced posts?
Any?
No....what do you suppose that shows?
...aside from the fact that you're a dunce?
If you go far enough to the right you have totalism also, derp..The Right wants less gov't control, less gov't intervention, and more freedom for the people. The Left, like the Nazis, want precisely the opposite. Which is why the Nazis and Fascists are both Left wing extremists rather than Right wing. When you go far enough tot he Left you end up with a totalitarian state; when you go far enough tot he Right you end up with no gov't at all, IOW anarchy.
What politics? You think politics is the same the world over? LOL@libtards.Yes, it's all bullshit. That the Nazis were on the right wing of the political spectrum is an indisputable fact.
Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.
They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.
1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.
2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack
These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:
Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.
similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.
LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.
The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.
The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists
capitalism thrived under the Nazis.
Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.
Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.
3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.
All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.
4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism
When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48
As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.
No even the general public was allowed to own guns....they didn't have to be members of the NSDAP. Just jews,communists and other trash that were threats to the state were banned which is fine.gun control...Socialists and nazis are incestuous soulmates... really two sides of the same coin.
Can you identify the equivalent views held by Nazis and Liberals on the social issues?
Wrong. The Nazis didn't take away all guns.
University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them.
The 1938 law signed by Hitler that LaPierre mentions in his book basically does the opposite of what he says it did. “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.
The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general. Does the fact that Nazis forced Jews into horrendous ghettos indict urban planning? Should we eliminate all police officers because the Nazis used police officers to oppress and kill the Jews? What about public works — Hitler loved public works projects? Of course not. These are merely implements that can be used for good or ill, much as gun advocates like to argue about guns themselves. If guns don’t kill people, then neither does gun control cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).
The Hitler gun control lie
They loosened gun laws for nazi party members moron....not Jews or their political enemies......what is it about that that you guys don't understand...oh, that's right, you do....you just choose to lie about it....from your own fucking link....
The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general.
So, only the people who were loyal to the nazi party were allowed to own guns...and the people who were not allowed to own guns were eventually sent to gas chambers.....are you really this dumb....?
gun control...Socialists and nazis are incestuous soulmates... really two sides of the same coin.
Can you identify the equivalent views held by Nazis and Liberals on the social issues?
Wrong. The Nazis didn't take away all guns.
University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them.
The 1938 law signed by Hitler that LaPierre mentions in his book basically does the opposite of what he says it did. “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.
The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general. Does the fact that Nazis forced Jews into horrendous ghettos indict urban planning? Should we eliminate all police officers because the Nazis used police officers to oppress and kill the Jews? What about public works — Hitler loved public works projects? Of course not. These are merely implements that can be used for good or ill, much as gun advocates like to argue about guns themselves. If guns don’t kill people, then neither does gun control cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).
The Hitler gun control lie
Nazis hated gays........Consevatives hate gays
Nazis oppressed minorities.......Conservatives oppress minorities
Nazis stressed a fear of the commies.........Conservatives stress fear of Communism
Nazis stressed nationalism.......Consevatives stress nationalism
Nazi = Conservative
Nazis hated gays........Consevatives hate gays
Nazis oppressed minorities.......Conservatives oppress minorities
Nazis stressed a fear of the commies.........Conservatives stress fear of Communism
Nazis stressed nationalism.......Consevatives stress nationalism
Nazi = Conservative
If you go far enough to the right you have totalism also, derp..The Right wants less gov't control, less gov't intervention, and more freedom for the people. The Left, like the Nazis, want precisely the opposite. Which is why the Nazis and Fascists are both Left wing extremists rather than Right wing. When you go far enough tot he Left you end up with a totalitarian state; when you go far enough tot he Right you end up with no gov't at all, IOW anarchy.
If you go far enough to the right you have totalism also, derp..The Right wants less gov't control, less gov't intervention, and more freedom for the people. The Left, like the Nazis, want precisely the opposite. Which is why the Nazis and Fascists are both Left wing extremists rather than Right wing. When you go far enough tot he Left you end up with a totalitarian state; when you go far enough tot he Right you end up with no gov't at all, IOW anarchy.
How do you figure that? Surely you know that the Right wants smaller gov't than the Left does. Surely you know that the further Right you go the less gov't you want, and the further Left you go the more gov't control you want. So how do you get to totalitarianism by going to the extreme Right? Logically if you go far enough tothe Right you should end up with no gov't at all, IOW anarchy rather than totalitariansim.
