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The data doesn't matter. We're not basing our recommendations
on the data. We're basing them on the climate models.
- Prof. Chris Folland,
Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research
I think that the graph that you posted would fool people who believe that surface temperature is the only indicator of global energy balance.
It also shows the actual temperature rise to be within the range of expectation.
Bullshit --- the fuel that AGW supporters run on --- is based not on the 2 or 3 outlier models that you claim made the call on temps.. Rather it is ALL BASED on the hysteria of looking at the WORST CASE projections. THOSE are what made your cult front page news.
Bullshit --- the fuel that AGW supporters run on --- is based not on the 2 or 3 outlier models that you claim made the call on temps.. Rather it is ALL BASED on the hysteria of looking at the WORST CASE projections. THOSE are what made your cult front page news.
I'll be that you wish everyday that the denier cult had some supporting science.
Not a chance of that happening though.
In this biz --- you CAN reject a theory without offering an alternative.. THat's how it works.
You don't need to solve the problem to show MAJOR ERRORS and FAULTS in a proposed solution..
Looks like -- from the news above --- you've been scammed...
You want better climate science?? Drop the pre-conceived notions about the cause and start THINKING about the problem and the data.. Change the IPCC mission statement to analyzing climate change WITHOUT restricting the scope to those causes due SOLELY TO MAN...
The data doesn't matter. We're not basing our recommendations
on the data. We're basing them on the climate models.
- Prof. Chris Folland,
Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research
I'll be that you wish everyday that the denier cult had some supporting science.
Not a chance of that happening though.
In this biz --- you CAN reject a theory without offering an alternative.. THat's how it works.
You don't need to solve the problem to show MAJOR ERRORS and FAULTS in a proposed solution..
Looks like -- from the news above --- you've been scammed...
You want better climate science?? Drop the pre-conceived notions about the cause and start THINKING about the problem and the data.. Change the IPCC mission statement to analyzing climate change WITHOUT restricting the scope to those causes due SOLELY TO MAN...
Obviously, YOU can reject science without ever understanding it.
This here,, "Change the IPCC mission statement to analyzing climate change WITHOUT restricting the scope to those causes due SOLELY TO MAN..."
is, by far, the stupidest thing you have ever said. It demonstrates, clearly, your inability to grasp objective science and your indemic investment in emotional thinking.
The IPCC mission statement has absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of the science. You are an idiot.
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/ipcc-principles/ipcc-principles.pdf
PRINCIPLES GOVERNING IPCC WORK
Approved at the Fourteenth Session (Vienna, 1-3 October 1998) on 1 October 1998, amended at the Twenty-First Session (Vienna, 3 and 6-7 November 2003), the Twenty-Fifth Session (Mauritius, 26-28 April 2006) and the Thirty-Fifth Session (Geneva, 6-9 June 2012)
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2. The role of the IPCC is to assess on a comprehensive, objective, open and transparent basis the scientific, technical and socio-economic information relevant to understanding the scientific basis of risk of human-induced climate change, its potential impacts and options for adaptation and mitigation.
In this biz --- you CAN reject a theory without offering an alternative.. THat's how it works.
You don't need to solve the problem to show MAJOR ERRORS and FAULTS in a proposed solution..
Looks like -- from the news above --- you've been scammed...
You want better climate science?? Drop the pre-conceived notions about the cause and start THINKING about the problem and the data.. Change the IPCC mission statement to analyzing climate change WITHOUT restricting the scope to those causes due SOLELY TO MAN...
Obviously, YOU can reject science without ever understanding it.
This here,, "Change the IPCC mission statement to analyzing climate change WITHOUT restricting the scope to those causes due SOLELY TO MAN..."
is, by far, the stupidest thing you have ever said. It demonstrates, clearly, your inability to grasp objective science and your indemic investment in emotional thinking.
The IPCC mission statement has absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of the science. You are an idiot.
There is so much you don't know or won't learn... You really shouldn't be attacking me --- you should be protecting your OWN credibility..
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/ipcc-principles/ipcc-principles.pdf
PRINCIPLES GOVERNING IPCC WORK
Approved at the Fourteenth Session (Vienna, 1-3 October 1998) on 1 October 1998, amended at the Twenty-First Session (Vienna, 3 and 6-7 November 2003), the Twenty-Fifth Session (Mauritius, 26-28 April 2006) and the Thirty-Fifth Session (Geneva, 6-9 June 2012)
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2. The role of the IPCC is to assess on a comprehensive, objective, open and transparent basis the scientific, technical and socio-economic information relevant to understanding the scientific basis of risk of human-induced climate change, its potential impacts and options for adaptation and mitigation.
Why don't you go mix it up with the folks in the Hobbies or Pet forums for awhile.. Until you can DISCUSS without attacking and making such a fool of yourself....
Obviously, YOU can reject science without ever understanding it.
This here,, "Change the IPCC mission statement to analyzing climate change WITHOUT restricting the scope to those causes due SOLELY TO MAN..."
is, by far, the stupidest thing you have ever said. It demonstrates, clearly, your inability to grasp objective science and your indemic investment in emotional thinking.
The IPCC mission statement has absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of the science. You are an idiot.
There is so much you don't know or won't learn... You really shouldn't be attacking me --- you should be protecting your OWN credibility..
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/ipcc-principles/ipcc-principles.pdf
PRINCIPLES GOVERNING IPCC WORK
Approved at the Fourteenth Session (Vienna, 1-3 October 1998) on 1 October 1998, amended at the Twenty-First Session (Vienna, 3 and 6-7 November 2003), the Twenty-Fifth Session (Mauritius, 26-28 April 2006) and the Thirty-Fifth Session (Geneva, 6-9 June 2012)
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2. The role of the IPCC is to assess on a comprehensive, objective, open and transparent basis the scientific, technical and socio-economic information relevant to understanding the scientific basis of risk of human-induced climate change, its potential impacts and options for adaptation and mitigation.
Why don't you go mix it up with the folks in the Hobbies or Pet forums for awhile.. Until you can DISCUSS without attacking and making such a fool of yourself....
IdiotMe said something wrong? According to his own standards, that means he's a liar, a pathological liar, a sociopath and a mentally unbalanced scientific ignoramus.
Knee jerk reactionism = global waming alarmist. See Al Gore.
Typical knee jerkwad reaction to the inconvenient truth.
I don't want it to be true.
Parents call that whining. Go ask yours.
True scientific reality seems to be getting in the way of you and Al's alarmist "truth". Enjoy life riding your unicorns on glitter island.
Anybody left on this thread that CONTINUES to ignore this part of the OP ????
Read more:
World's top climate scientists confess: Global warming is just QUARTER what we thought - and computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong | Mail Online
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One of the (IPCC) reports own authors, Professor Myles Allen, the director of Oxford Universitys Climate Research Network, last night said this should be the last IPCC assessment accusing its cumbersome production process of misrepresenting how science works.
Prof Allen said: The idea of producing a document of near-biblical infallibility
is a misrepresentation of how science works, and we need to look very carefully
about what the IPCC does in future
He's essentially saying that IPCC cannot continue with it's present tactics and be faithful to scientific methods. Most rational folks (excludes PMZ) should realize how bad the self-inflicted wounds at the IPCC are.
They should be put on 24hr suicide watch.. (Or maybe 22hr watch and given a rope)
Not really. We have liberals who cry over the eating of livestock and think nothing of murdering an unborn child because it would inconvenience them.
Walk into an abortion clinic and tell us how the people there think nothing of what they're doing. Tell us about George W Bush's moral superiority. He opposed abortions and stem cell research but didn't seem to mind murdering 100,000 innocent Iraqis. Can we generalize that sort of ethos to all conservatives? No? Hmmm...
Demonizing your opponents is such a handy technique, isn't it. No need to discuss actual questions and issues. Just convince us that your opponent is an inhuman beast.
I love the way the same people who accuse George Bush of "murdering" Iraqis want to bomb the crap out of Syria and thereby kill thousands of civilians. They also defended bombing Libya and killing thousands of Libyan civilians.
Not really. We have liberals who cry over the eating of livestock and think nothing of murdering an unborn child because it would inconvenience them.
I figure that if God didn't want us to eat livestock he wouldn't have made them out of meat.
Well, that's a no-brainer......which leaves a lot of vegan liberals out.
In this biz --- you CAN reject a theory without offering an alternative.. THat's how it works.
You don't need to solve the problem to show MAJOR ERRORS and FAULTS in a proposed solution..
Looks like -- from the news above --- you've been scammed...
You want better climate science?? Drop the pre-conceived notions about the cause and start THINKING about the problem and the data.. Change the IPCC mission statement to analyzing climate change WITHOUT restricting the scope to those causes due SOLELY TO MAN...
Obviously, YOU can reject science without ever understanding it.
This here,, "Change the IPCC mission statement to analyzing climate change WITHOUT restricting the scope to those causes due SOLELY TO MAN..."
is, by far, the stupidest thing you have ever said. It demonstrates, clearly, your inability to grasp objective science and your indemic investment in emotional thinking.
The IPCC mission statement has absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of the science. You are an idiot.
There is so much you don't know or won't learn... You really shouldn't be attacking me --- you should be protecting your OWN credibility..
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/ipcc-principles/ipcc-principles.pdf
PRINCIPLES GOVERNING IPCC WORK
Approved at the Fourteenth Session (Vienna, 1-3 October 1998) on 1 October 1998, amended at the Twenty-First Session (Vienna, 3 and 6-7 November 2003), the Twenty-Fifth Session (Mauritius, 26-28 April 2006) and the Thirty-Fifth Session (Geneva, 6-9 June 2012)
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2. The role of the IPCC is to assess on a comprehensive, objective, open and transparent basis the scientific, technical and socio-economic information relevant to understanding the scientific basis of risk of human-induced climate change, its potential impacts and options for adaptation and mitigation.
Why don't you go mix it up with the folks in the Hobbies or Pet forums for awhile.. Until you can DISCUSS without attacking and making such a fool of yourself....
Obviously, YOU can reject science without ever understanding it.
This here,, "Change the IPCC mission statement to analyzing climate change WITHOUT restricting the scope to those causes due SOLELY TO MAN..."
is, by far, the stupidest thing you have ever said. It demonstrates, clearly, your inability to grasp objective science and your indemic investment in emotional thinking.
The IPCC mission statement has absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of the science. You are an idiot.
There is so much you don't know or won't learn... You really shouldn't be attacking me --- you should be protecting your OWN credibility..
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/ipcc-principles/ipcc-principles.pdf
PRINCIPLES GOVERNING IPCC WORK
Approved at the Fourteenth Session (Vienna, 1-3 October 1998) on 1 October 1998, amended at the Twenty-First Session (Vienna, 3 and 6-7 November 2003), the Twenty-Fifth Session (Mauritius, 26-28 April 2006) and the Thirty-Fifth Session (Geneva, 6-9 June 2012)
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2. The role of the IPCC is to assess on a comprehensive, objective, open and transparent basis the scientific, technical and socio-economic information relevant to understanding the scientific basis of risk of human-induced climate change, its potential impacts and options for adaptation and mitigation.
Why don't you go mix it up with the folks in the Hobbies or Pet forums for awhile.. Until you can DISCUSS without attacking and making such a fool of yourself....
IdiotMe said something wrong? According to his own standards, that means he's a liar, a pathological liar, a sociopath and a mentally unbalanced scientific ignoramus.
notice the climate crusaders steer waaaaaaay clear of this thread. Happens all the time.....they want stuff like this to fall away from the face page of the forum asap.
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There is so much you don't know or won't learn... You really shouldn't be attacking me --- you should be protecting your OWN credibility..
Why don't you go mix it up with the folks in the Hobbies or Pet forums for awhile.. Until you can DISCUSS without attacking and making such a fool of yourself....
IdiotMe said something wrong? According to his own standards, that means he's a liar, a pathological liar, a sociopath and a mentally unbalanced scientific ignoramus.
No, the standards that apply to me and others with a scientific university education who are capable of actual thinking, rather than emotional reasoning, is quite different than the standards that you apply and therefore apply to yourself. To begin with, I don't lie or misrepresent information. I don't put up a map of the Northern Elephant Seal as being representative of all elephant seals, especially knowing that the Southern Elephant Seal is the one used for temp measures.
Your just a desperate moron that misrepresents information so that you can "win at all costs" instead of seeking the actual science.
But, by all means, show how much science you know explaining what "degrees of freedom" means in evaluating scientific data.
Oh, yeah, you can't... your not capable of getting past "doo doo head". You basically are just jerking yourself off.
IdiotMe said something wrong? According to his own standards, that means he's a liar, a pathological liar, a sociopath and a mentally unbalanced scientific ignoramus.
No, the standards that apply to me and others with a scientific university education who are capable of actual thinking, rather than emotional reasoning, is quite different than the standards that you apply and therefore apply to yourself. To begin with, I don't lie or misrepresent information. I don't put up a map of the Northern Elephant Seal as being representative of all elephant seals, especially knowing that the Southern Elephant Seal is the one used for temp measures.
Your just a desperate moron that misrepresents information so that you can "win at all costs" instead of seeking the actual science.
But, by all means, show how much science you know explaining what "degrees of freedom" means in evaluating scientific data.
Oh, yeah, you can't... your not capable of getting past "doo doo head". You basically are just jerking yourself off.
Win at all costs is the credo of all politics.
Liberal politicians interpret that as govern as best you can. Conservatives, who basically are anarchists don't limit themselves in any way.
At all costs means just that.
Our obsession with cows is causing almost 10% of global warming emissions ? Quartz
The livestock industry is responsible for roughly 15% of global carbon emissions, according to a new climate change report released today (pdf) by the UNs Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO)."
That sucks
And, I will hazard to guess that if we switched from beef to chicken, chicken would just go up and we would improve nothing.
The Mathusian Catastrophy was common as society expanded into uninhabited regions. Having expanded into the whole earth's climate, there isn't anywhere else to go.
