Trickle down Econ already working for AT&T, Wells Fargo and Comcast employees...Thanks Donny!

[Toddsterpatriot]

You mean companies like AT&T, Boeing, Comcast, Wells Fargo and Fifth Third Bancorp, etc.?

Well......the December jobs report comes out next week

Lets see if those salary numbers jump like they should

These are some of the companies providing bonuses, I don't think the jobs report reflects bonuses. As far as the tax cut, that won't take affect until February if not mistaken. Only thing we should see in the December report is an increase in jobs....which I'm sure you'll be one of the first to claim it's due to seasonal jobs.

ALL companies received a 50 percent tax cut. While you celebrate a few who are looking for public relations, we won't know the full impact nation wide till we see those salary reports over the next few months
I would expect a healthy increase......otherwise, we can be certain that trickle down did not happen

ALL companies received a 50 percent tax cut.

Bad math.

we won't know the full impact nation wide till we see those salary reports over the next few months

What about the higher dividends and higher stock prices? Don't they count?

80% of all stocks belong to the wealthy 5% at the top. That’s who’s getting the big tax cuts and the big dividends.

A one-time bonus is puppy shit in comparison to a 14% permanent drop in corporate taxes.

Trump promised raised for the working class. A 1-time bonus of $1000 is a piss-poor substitute for a 14% net revenue increase across the board going to your employer.

If you make $7.50 an hour, a 14% revenue increase based on a 40 hour week is $2,184 a year. That’s what a pissy piece of shit your $1000 bonus really is.

80% of all stocks belong to the wealthy 5% at the top.

Baloney.

A one-time bonus is puppy shit in comparison to a 14% permanent drop in corporate taxes.

Permanent drop.....I like the sound of that.

 

[rightwinger]

2018 will be an election year

Democrats will campaign on the tax cuts being for the rich
By November, voters will know if they got pay raises trickling down and how much difference in their pay checks due to tax cuts

The fact is that the rich will get the largest share of the tax cuts. If we were talking about the rate cuts that would be fine. However numerous loopholes were left in that the rich will be able to take advantage of. Trump, Paul Ryan and Corker will get a huge tax cut thanks to the special interest provision that was slipped in. I don't think middle class people will be too happy about that.

What is it the left doesn't understand about people who pay most all of our federal income tax getting the largest tax break? Who should be getting the largest tax break, the people who pay little to nothing in federal income taxes?

The issue was they were paying historically low rates and now they pay less

Our society suffers in education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs

So how did education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs become the liability of the wealthy? When did they sign on to that?

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

 

[rightwinger]

Dividends are a different topic
We are talking trickling down the tax cuts to employees

There is no reason employers should be telling their workers.......we can't afford pay increases this year

Let's see if they materialize

I don't know that there are many companies who ever said they can't afford anything. Salary increases are usually based on many other things than if a company can afford them or not.

Exactly

This is why pretending that this huge tax cut will actually help employees is laughable

pretending that this huge tax cut will actually help employees is laughable

Exactly! We should raise taxes on our corporations.
Who cares if we already had the highest rate in the 1st world?
What are they going to do, move and take their jobs and tax payments with them?

We never had a high effective rate. Now we have a giveaway for corporations

We never had a high effective rate.

It's awful when corporations write off their expenses. Just awful!

Which means their bottom line tax rate is very low

 

[Dragonlady]

2018 will be an election year

Democrats will campaign on the tax cuts being for the rich
By November, voters will know if they got pay raises trickling down and how much difference in their pay checks due to tax cuts

The fact is that the rich will get the largest share of the tax cuts. If we were talking about the rate cuts that would be fine. However numerous loopholes were left in that the rich will be able to take advantage of. Trump, Paul Ryan and Corker will get a huge tax cut thanks to the special interest provision that was slipped in. I don't think middle class people will be too happy about that.

What is it the left doesn't understand about people who pay most all of our federal income tax getting the largest tax break? Who should be getting the largest tax break, the people who pay little to nothing in federal income taxes?

The issue was they were paying historically low rates and now they pay less

Our society suffers in education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs

So how did education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs become the liability of the wealthy? When did they sign on to that?

You want educated workers for your business? How about infrastructure to help you move yours goods and services. Do your employees heed to be healthy? Does your company need patent protection?

There are plenty of countries with no taxes. They’re Third World Shit holes. You wanna live in a First World country, you pay First World taxes for that privilege.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

2018 will be an election year

Democrats will campaign on the tax cuts being for the rich
By November, voters will know if they got pay raises trickling down and how much difference in their pay checks due to tax cuts

The fact is that the rich will get the largest share of the tax cuts. If we were talking about the rate cuts that would be fine. However numerous loopholes were left in that the rich will be able to take advantage of. Trump, Paul Ryan and Corker will get a huge tax cut thanks to the special interest provision that was slipped in. I don't think middle class people will be too happy about that.

What is it the left doesn't understand about people who pay most all of our federal income tax getting the largest tax break? Who should be getting the largest tax break, the people who pay little to nothing in federal income taxes?

The issue was they were paying historically low rates and now they pay less

Our society suffers in education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs

So how did education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs become the liability of the wealthy? When did they sign on to that?

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

The wealthy make their profits off the backs of labor? Well doesn't labor make their money from the people who created the company and product? Why do you leftists always try to make it out as if the workers are doing a favor for the industry? If anybody benefits, it's the worker--not the company. The company can get workers anywhere.

As for infrastructure, we all benefit equally so we should all pay equally.

 

[danielpalos]

The fact is that the rich will get the largest share of the tax cuts. If we were talking about the rate cuts that would be fine. However numerous loopholes were left in that the rich will be able to take advantage of. Trump, Paul Ryan and Corker will get a huge tax cut thanks to the special interest provision that was slipped in. I don't think middle class people will be too happy about that.

What is it the left doesn't understand about people who pay most all of our federal income tax getting the largest tax break? Who should be getting the largest tax break, the people who pay little to nothing in federal income taxes?

The issue was they were paying historically low rates and now they pay less

Our society suffers in education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs

So how did education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs become the liability of the wealthy? When did they sign on to that?

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

The wealthy make their profits off the backs of labor? Well doesn't labor make their money from the people who created the company and product? Why do you leftists always try to make it out as if the workers are doing a favor for the industry? If anybody benefits, it's the worker--not the company. The company can get workers anywhere.

As for infrastructure, we all benefit equally so we should all pay equally.

Under Capitalism, simply having capital makes all the capital difference in the world.

 

[Windparadox]

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Reasonably related; "Comcast, Cox, Frontier All Raising Internet Access Rates for 2018" - Note, nothing changed. No value added. Just a price increase because they can. Thank the republicans for repealing Net Neutrality.

 

[rightwinger]

The fact is that the rich will get the largest share of the tax cuts. If we were talking about the rate cuts that would be fine. However numerous loopholes were left in that the rich will be able to take advantage of. Trump, Paul Ryan and Corker will get a huge tax cut thanks to the special interest provision that was slipped in. I don't think middle class people will be too happy about that.

What is it the left doesn't understand about people who pay most all of our federal income tax getting the largest tax break? Who should be getting the largest tax break, the people who pay little to nothing in federal income taxes?

The issue was they were paying historically low rates and now they pay less

Our society suffers in education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs

So how did education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs become the liability of the wealthy? When did they sign on to that?

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

The wealthy make their profits off the backs of labor? Well doesn't labor make their money from the people who created the company and product? Why do you leftists always try to make it out as if the workers are doing a favor for the industry? If anybody benefits, it's the worker--not the company. The company can get workers anywhere.

As for infrastructure, we all benefit equally so we should all pay equally.

The wealthy make a profit off of every employee
Capitalists are adding nothing to the process of creating wealth....they just monopolize it

No, we do not all benefit equally off of infrastructure. Without roads, ports, rail business would have no way of getting supplies or shipping their product

The general public need roads to visit grandma.......corporations make profit off of them

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

2018 will be an election year

Democrats will campaign on the tax cuts being for the rich
By November, voters will know if they got pay raises trickling down and how much difference in their pay checks due to tax cuts

The fact is that the rich will get the largest share of the tax cuts. If we were talking about the rate cuts that would be fine. However numerous loopholes were left in that the rich will be able to take advantage of. Trump, Paul Ryan and Corker will get a huge tax cut thanks to the special interest provision that was slipped in. I don't think middle class people will be too happy about that.

What is it the left doesn't understand about people who pay most all of our federal income tax getting the largest tax break? Who should be getting the largest tax break, the people who pay little to nothing in federal income taxes?

The issue was they were paying historically low rates and now they pay less

Our society suffers in education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs

So how did education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs become the liability of the wealthy? When did they sign on to that?

You want educated workers for your business? How about infrastructure to help you move yours goods and services. Do your employees heed to be healthy? Does your company need patent protection?

There are plenty of countries with no taxes. They’re Third World Shit holes. You wanna live in a First World country, you pay First World taxes for that privilege.

Taxes are not the problem, the problem is always making social programs and infrastructure the responsibility of the wealthy instead of the responsibility of all.

We don't educate people for companies, we educate people so they can survive in this world. Don't lie about it and say education benefits industry when it mostly benefits the individual.

 

[danielpalos]

It should be federal doctrine, for each State to have their own central bank.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What is it the left doesn't understand about people who pay most all of our federal income tax getting the largest tax break? Who should be getting the largest tax break, the people who pay little to nothing in federal income taxes?

The issue was they were paying historically low rates and now they pay less

Our society suffers in education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs

So how did education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs become the liability of the wealthy? When did they sign on to that?

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

The wealthy make their profits off the backs of labor? Well doesn't labor make their money from the people who created the company and product? Why do you leftists always try to make it out as if the workers are doing a favor for the industry? If anybody benefits, it's the worker--not the company. The company can get workers anywhere.


As for infrastructure, we all benefit equally so we should all pay equally.

The wealthy make a profit off of every employee
Capitalists are adding nothing to the process of creating wealth....they just monopolize it

No, we do not all benefit equally off of infrastructure. Without roads, ports, rail business would have no way of getting supplies or shipping their product

The general public need roads to visit grandma.......corporations make profit off of them

Really? So how do you think products get to your stores? You would starve without food, don't you think? And even if we found an alternative way to get products to the store, how would you get to the store without roads and infrastructure?

 

[rightwinger]

The fact is that the rich will get the largest share of the tax cuts. If we were talking about the rate cuts that would be fine. However numerous loopholes were left in that the rich will be able to take advantage of. Trump, Paul Ryan and Corker will get a huge tax cut thanks to the special interest provision that was slipped in. I don't think middle class people will be too happy about that.

What is it the left doesn't understand about people who pay most all of our federal income tax getting the largest tax break? Who should be getting the largest tax break, the people who pay little to nothing in federal income taxes?

The issue was they were paying historically low rates and now they pay less

Our society suffers in education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs

So how did education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs become the liability of the wealthy? When did they sign on to that?

You want educated workers for your business? How about infrastructure to help you move yours goods and services. Do your employees heed to be healthy? Does your company need patent protection?

There are plenty of countries with no taxes. They’re Third World Shit holes. You wanna live in a First World country, you pay First World taxes for that privilege.

Taxes are not the problem, the problem is always making social programs and infrastructure the responsibility of the wealthy instead of the responsibility of all.

We don't educate people for companies, we educate people so they can survive in this world. Don't lie about it and say education benefits industry when it mostly benefits the individual.

Companies profit off an educated workforce.

Imagine if every employee could neither read or write and they had to educate every worker from scratch

 

[Markle]

What bonuses? Trump Tax doesn't take effect until the 2019 tax year.

Please start doing some reading at a site other than Media Matters or The Nation.

The cut in taxes will begin to show up the end of February 2018 and will be retroactive to January 1, 2017.

 

[rightwinger]

The issue was they were paying historically low rates and now they pay less

Our society suffers in education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs

So how did education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs become the liability of the wealthy? When did they sign on to that?

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

The wealthy make their profits off the backs of labor? Well doesn't labor make their money from the people who created the company and product? Why do you leftists always try to make it out as if the workers are doing a favor for the industry? If anybody benefits, it's the worker--not the company. The company can get workers anywhere.


As for infrastructure, we all benefit equally so we should all pay equally.

The wealthy make a profit off of every employee
Capitalists are adding nothing to the process of creating wealth....they just monopolize it

No, we do not all benefit equally off of infrastructure. Without roads, ports, rail business would have no way of getting supplies or shipping their product

The general public need roads to visit grandma.......corporations make profit off of them

Really? So how do you think products get to your stores? You would starve without food, don't you think? And even if we found an alternative way to get products to the store, how would you get to the store without roads and infrastructure?

Exactly

How big a farm could you have if you could only sell your produce the distance you could get without roads or bridges?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So how did education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs become the liability of the wealthy? When did they sign on to that?

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

The wealthy make their profits off the backs of labor? Well doesn't labor make their money from the people who created the company and product? Why do you leftists always try to make it out as if the workers are doing a favor for the industry? If anybody benefits, it's the worker--not the company. The company can get workers anywhere.


As for infrastructure, we all benefit equally so we should all pay equally.

The wealthy make a profit off of every employee
Capitalists are adding nothing to the process of creating wealth....they just monopolize it

No, we do not all benefit equally off of infrastructure. Without roads, ports, rail business would have no way of getting supplies or shipping their product

The general public need roads to visit grandma.......corporations make profit off of them

Really? So how do you think products get to your stores? You would starve without food, don't you think? And even if we found an alternative way to get products to the store, how would you get to the store without roads and infrastructure?

Exactly

How big a farm could you have if you could only sell your produce the distance you could get without roads or bridges?

How fat could you get if the food grown on the farms never made it to market where you could buy it?

 

[Markle]

Wow. LBJ was a model Democrat.


That is exactly what he tried to do, and the real reason he pushed for civil rights, not because it was the right thing to do.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What is it the left doesn't understand about people who pay most all of our federal income tax getting the largest tax break? Who should be getting the largest tax break, the people who pay little to nothing in federal income taxes?

The issue was they were paying historically low rates and now they pay less

Our society suffers in education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs

So how did education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs become the liability of the wealthy? When did they sign on to that?

You want educated workers for your business? How about infrastructure to help you move yours goods and services. Do your employees heed to be healthy? Does your company need patent protection?

There are plenty of countries with no taxes. They’re Third World Shit holes. You wanna live in a First World country, you pay First World taxes for that privilege.

Taxes are not the problem, the problem is always making social programs and infrastructure the responsibility of the wealthy instead of the responsibility of all.

We don't educate people for companies, we educate people so they can survive in this world. Don't lie about it and say education benefits industry when it mostly benefits the individual.

Companies profit off an educated workforce.

Imagine if every employee could neither read or write and they had to educate every worker from scratch

They would just bring in foreigners to do the work. Your leftist argument is completely stupid. If I sell you a car, could I make the argument that you benefit more than I did because you can now get to places? Of course not, that would be silly. We both benefited. I have the money to buy another car (or whatever) and you have a car to get to work in the morning.

 

[Markle]

ALL companies received a 50 percent tax cut. While you celebrate a few who are looking for public relations, we won't know the full impact nation wide till we see those salary reports over the next few months
I would expect a healthy increase......otherwise, we can be certain that trickle down did not happen

FAKE NEWS

We will not know the full impact of the corporate tax decrease for at least a year. It will also take time for money earned overseas to be brought back into the U.S.

Tax cuts to individuals will begin showing up in paychecks the end of February and will be retroactive to January 1, 2018.

 

[danielpalos]

The fact is that the rich will get the largest share of the tax cuts. If we were talking about the rate cuts that would be fine. However numerous loopholes were left in that the rich will be able to take advantage of. Trump, Paul Ryan and Corker will get a huge tax cut thanks to the special interest provision that was slipped in. I don't think middle class people will be too happy about that.

What is it the left doesn't understand about people who pay most all of our federal income tax getting the largest tax break? Who should be getting the largest tax break, the people who pay little to nothing in federal income taxes?

The issue was they were paying historically low rates and now they pay less

Our society suffers in education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs

So how did education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs become the liability of the wealthy? When did they sign on to that?

You want educated workers for your business? How about infrastructure to help you move yours goods and services. Do your employees heed to be healthy? Does your company need patent protection?

There are plenty of countries with no taxes. They’re Third World Shit holes. You wanna live in a First World country, you pay First World taxes for that privilege.

Taxes are not the problem, the problem is always making social programs and infrastructure the responsibility of the wealthy instead of the responsibility of all.

We don't educate people for companies, we educate people so they can survive in this world. Don't lie about it and say education benefits industry when it mostly benefits the individual.

End our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror to end our income tax.

 

[The Derp]

We will not know the full impact of the corporate tax decrease for at least a year. It will also take time for money earned overseas to be brought back into the U.S.

How does lowering the corporate profit tax rate translate to business expansion and investment? That sort of thing happens before a corporation pays a single cent in tax on profit. Corporations don't need an income tax cut to bring money back to the US to invest and expand their businesses. That's Corporate Finance 101.

Tax cuts to individuals will begin showing up in paychecks the end of February and will be retroactive to January 1, 2018.

And increased health insurance premiums will start immediately on January 1st.