Trickle down Econ already working for AT&T, Wells Fargo and Comcast employees...Thanks Donny!

[Slyhunter]

The fact is that the rich will get the largest share of the tax cuts. If we were talking about the rate cuts that would be fine. However numerous loopholes were left in that the rich will be able to take advantage of. Trump, Paul Ryan and Corker will get a huge tax cut thanks to the special interest provision that was slipped in. I don't think middle class people will be too happy about that.

What is it the left doesn't understand about people who pay most all of our federal income tax getting the largest tax break? Who should be getting the largest tax break, the people who pay little to nothing in federal income taxes?

The issue was they were paying historically low rates and now they pay less

Our society suffers in education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs

So how did education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs become the liability of the wealthy? When did they sign on to that?

You want educated workers for your business? How about infrastructure to help you move yours goods and services. Do your employees heed to be healthy? Does your company need patent protection?

There are plenty of countries with no taxes. They’re Third World Shit holes. You wanna live in a First World country, you pay First World taxes for that privilege.

Taxes are not the problem, the problem is always making social programs and infrastructure the responsibility of the wealthy instead of the responsibility of all.

We don't educate people for companies, we educate people so they can survive in this world. Don't lie about it and say education benefits industry when it mostly benefits the individual.

Education benefits our country because it turns welfare recipients into tax paying citizens.

 

[The Derp]

They would just bring in foreigners to do the work.

They already do. Trump is one of the worst abusers of the work visa program, using them to import foreign labor to work at his Florida resort. Are we to believe that Americans aren't qualified to clean hotel rooms, bus tables, tend bar, check in guests, and provide concierge service?

 

[rightwinger]

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

The wealthy make their profits off the backs of labor? Well doesn't labor make their money from the people who created the company and product? Why do you leftists always try to make it out as if the workers are doing a favor for the industry? If anybody benefits, it's the worker--not the company. The company can get workers anywhere.


As for infrastructure, we all benefit equally so we should all pay equally.

The wealthy make a profit off of every employee
Capitalists are adding nothing to the process of creating wealth....they just monopolize it

No, we do not all benefit equally off of infrastructure. Without roads, ports, rail business would have no way of getting supplies or shipping their product

The general public need roads to visit grandma.......corporations make profit off of them

Really? So how do you think products get to your stores? You would starve without food, don't you think? And even if we found an alternative way to get products to the store, how would you get to the store without roads and infrastructure?

Exactly

How big a farm could you have if you could only sell your produce the distance you could get without roads or bridges?

How fat could you get if the food grown on the farms never made it to market where you could buy it?

Our population never could have expanded if societies had not invested in roads, bridges, ports, railways

All enabled the wealthy to capitalize on an endless market

 

[rightwinger]

ALL companies received a 50 percent tax cut. While you celebrate a few who are looking for public relations, we won't know the full impact nation wide till we see those salary reports over the next few months
I would expect a healthy increase......otherwise, we can be certain that trickle down did not happen

FAKE NEWS

We will not know the full impact of the corporate tax decrease for at least a year. It will also take time for money earned overseas to be brought back into the U.S.

Tax cuts to individuals will begin showing up in paychecks the end of February and will be retroactive to January 1, 2018.

2018 is a week away

Those corporations will already be benefiting from lower tax rates
Why would they wait to start trickling down those savings to their employers and consumers?

If their taxes had gone up, they would have already raised the price of their product. They would not wait a year

 

[danielpalos]

They would just bring in foreigners to do the work.

They already do. Trump is one of the worst abusers of the work visa program, using them to import foreign labor to work at his Florida resort. Are we to believe that Americans aren't qualified to clean hotel rooms, bus tables, tend bar, check in guests, and provide concierge service?

And the right wing voted for him.

 

[The Derp]

They would just bring in foreigners to do the work.

They already do. Trump is one of the worst abusers of the work visa program, using them to import foreign labor to work at his Florida resort. Are we to believe that Americans aren't qualified to clean hotel rooms, bus tables, tend bar, check in guests, and provide concierge service?

And the right wing voted for him.

Yes. Because they're racists. There's no other explanation. If you voted for Donald Trump, you did so because you're a racist, or a 1%er.

 

[Markle]

People in Canada and Europe aren’t trying to get into the US. We have a higher quality of life right where we are. Government funded health care. Longer life expectancy. Some of the best public schools in the world.

Canadian healthcare is inferior to the United States in large part because many die on their enormous waiting lists.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report
— Published on November 23, 2016

[...]

This edition of Waiting Your Turn indicates that, overall, waiting times for medically necessary treatment have in-creased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 20.0 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment—longer than the wait of 18.3 weeks reported in 2015. This year’s wait time—the longest ever recorded in this survey’s history—is 115% longer than in 1993, when it was just 9.3 weeks.

There is a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. Ontario reports the shortest total wait (15.6 weeks), while New Brunswick reports the longest (38.8 weeks). There is also a great deal of variation among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and Neurosurgery (46.9 weeks), while those waiting for Medical oncology begin treatment in 3.7 weeks.

The total wait time that patients face can be examined in two consecutive segments.

From referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist. The waiting time in this segment increased from 8.5 weeks in 2015 to 9.4 weeks this year. This wait time is 155% longer than in 1993, when it was 3.7 weeks. The shortest waits for specialist consultations are in Ontario (7.2 weeks) while the longest occur in New Brunswick (21.5 weeks).

[...]

Patients also experience significant waiting times for various diagnostic technologies across the provinces. This year, Canadians could expect to wait 3.7 weeks for a computed tomography (CT) scan, 11.1 weeks for a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan, and 4.0 weeks for an ultrasound.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report

Why are Canadians getting health care in Detroit?

Some Canadian mothers forced to give birth in U.S.

 

[rightwinger]

People in Canada and Europe aren’t trying to get into the US. We have a higher quality of life right where we are. Government funded health care. Longer life expectancy. Some of the best public schools in the world.

Canadian healthcare is inferior to the United States in large part because many die on their enormous waiting lists.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report
— Published on November 23, 2016

[...]

This edition of Waiting Your Turn indicates that, overall, waiting times for medically necessary treatment have in-creased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 20.0 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment—longer than the wait of 18.3 weeks reported in 2015. This year’s wait time—the longest ever recorded in this survey’s history—is 115% longer than in 1993, when it was just 9.3 weeks.

There is a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. Ontario reports the shortest total wait (15.6 weeks), while New Brunswick reports the longest (38.8 weeks). There is also a great deal of variation among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and Neurosurgery (46.9 weeks), while those waiting for Medical oncology begin treatment in 3.7 weeks.

The total wait time that patients face can be examined in two consecutive segments.

From referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist. The waiting time in this segment increased from 8.5 weeks in 2015 to 9.4 weeks this year. This wait time is 155% longer than in 1993, when it was 3.7 weeks. The shortest waits for specialist consultations are in Ontario (7.2 weeks) while the longest occur in New Brunswick (21.5 weeks).

[...]

Patients also experience significant waiting times for various diagnostic technologies across the provinces. This year, Canadians could expect to wait 3.7 weeks for a computed tomography (CT) scan, 11.1 weeks for a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan, and 4.0 weeks for an ultrasound.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report

Why are Canadians getting health care in Detroit?

Some Canadian mothers forced to give birth in U.S.

Find Canadians who want to abandon their national healthcare and adopt our healthcare for the richest strategy

New poll shows Canadians overwhelmingly support public health care

80 percent support.....you won't find that many Americans supporting our system

 

[Dragonlady]

People in Canada and Europe aren’t trying to get into the US. We have a higher quality of life right where we are. Government funded health care. Longer life expectancy. Some of the best public schools in the world.

Canadian healthcare is inferior to the United States in large part because many die on their enormous waiting lists.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report
— Published on November 23, 2016

[...]

This edition of Waiting Your Turn indicates that, overall, waiting times for medically necessary treatment have in-creased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 20.0 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment—longer than the wait of 18.3 weeks reported in 2015. This year’s wait time—the longest ever recorded in this survey’s history—is 115% longer than in 1993, when it was just 9.3 weeks.

There is a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. Ontario reports the shortest total wait (15.6 weeks), while New Brunswick reports the longest (38.8 weeks). There is also a great deal of variation among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and Neurosurgery (46.9 weeks), while those waiting for Medical oncology begin treatment in 3.7 weeks.

The total wait time that patients face can be examined in two consecutive segments.

From referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist. The waiting time in this segment increased from 8.5 weeks in 2015 to 9.4 weeks this year. This wait time is 155% longer than in 1993, when it was 3.7 weeks. The shortest waits for specialist consultations are in Ontario (7.2 weeks) while the longest occur in New Brunswick (21.5 weeks).

[...]

Patients also experience significant waiting times for various diagnostic technologies across the provinces. This year, Canadians could expect to wait 3.7 weeks for a computed tomography (CT) scan, 11.1 weeks for a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan, and 4.0 weeks for an ultrasound.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report

Why are Canadians getting health care in Detroit?

Some Canadian mothers forced to give birth in U.S.

Find Canadians who want to abandon their national healthcare and adopt our healthcare for the richest strategy

New poll shows Canadians overwhelmingly support public health care

80 percent support.....you won't find that many Americans supporting our system

Using a report from the Fraser Institute is laughable. The Fraser is a libertarian think tank with a stated goal of repealling the Canada Health Act and dismantling public education in Canada.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I don't know that there are many companies who ever said they can't afford anything. Salary increases are usually based on many other things than if a company can afford them or not.

Exactly

This is why pretending that this huge tax cut will actually help employees is laughable

pretending that this huge tax cut will actually help employees is laughable

Exactly! We should raise taxes on our corporations.
Who cares if we already had the highest rate in the 1st world?
What are they going to do, move and take their jobs and tax payments with them?

We never had a high effective rate. Now we have a giveaway for corporations

We never had a high effective rate.

It's awful when corporations write off their expenses. Just awful!

Which means their bottom line tax rate is very low

Which means their bottom line tax rate is very low

Which means they paid 35% tax on their taxable income.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What is it the left doesn't understand about people who pay most all of our federal income tax getting the largest tax break? Who should be getting the largest tax break, the people who pay little to nothing in federal income taxes?

The issue was they were paying historically low rates and now they pay less

Our society suffers in education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs

So how did education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs become the liability of the wealthy? When did they sign on to that?

You want educated workers for your business? How about infrastructure to help you move yours goods and services. Do your employees heed to be healthy? Does your company need patent protection?

There are plenty of countries with no taxes. They’re Third World Shit holes. You wanna live in a First World country, you pay First World taxes for that privilege.

Taxes are not the problem, the problem is always making social programs and infrastructure the responsibility of the wealthy instead of the responsibility of all.

We don't educate people for companies, we educate people so they can survive in this world. Don't lie about it and say education benefits industry when it mostly benefits the individual.

Companies profit off an educated workforce.

Imagine if every employee could neither read or write and they had to educate every worker from scratch

Imagine if every employee could neither read or write

Hey! You leave the Chicago Public Schools out of this.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So how did education, healthcare, infrastructure and public programs become the liability of the wealthy? When did they sign on to that?

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

Good question

The wealthy make their profit off of the backs of labor.
They also benefit immensely from a reliable infrastructure (roads, energy, communications, water)

Right now, the government invests heavily in education. The wealthy employers benefit from having educated workers show up at their doorstep

The wealthy make their profits off the backs of labor? Well doesn't labor make their money from the people who created the company and product? Why do you leftists always try to make it out as if the workers are doing a favor for the industry? If anybody benefits, it's the worker--not the company. The company can get workers anywhere.


As for infrastructure, we all benefit equally so we should all pay equally.

The wealthy make a profit off of every employee
Capitalists are adding nothing to the process of creating wealth....they just monopolize it

No, we do not all benefit equally off of infrastructure. Without roads, ports, rail business would have no way of getting supplies or shipping their product

The general public need roads to visit grandma.......corporations make profit off of them

Really? So how do you think products get to your stores? You would starve without food, don't you think? And even if we found an alternative way to get products to the store, how would you get to the store without roads and infrastructure?

Exactly

How big a farm could you have if you could only sell your produce the distance you could get without roads or bridges?

If you've got the food, the world will beat a path to your door.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We will not know the full impact of the corporate tax decrease for at least a year. It will also take time for money earned overseas to be brought back into the U.S.

How does lowering the corporate profit tax rate translate to business expansion and investment? That sort of thing happens before a corporation pays a single cent in tax on profit. Corporations don't need an income tax cut to bring money back to the US to invest and expand their businesses. That's Corporate Finance 101.

Tax cuts to individuals will begin showing up in paychecks the end of February and will be retroactive to January 1, 2018.

And increased health insurance premiums will start immediately on January 1st.

How does lowering the corporate profit tax rate translate to business expansion and investment?

If I get to keep 79 cents of every dollar in corporate profit, instead of only 65 cents, that extra 21.5% profit is gonna make me expand like a motherfucker!

 

[Faun]

Trickle down Econ already working for AT&T, Wells Fargo and Comcast employees...Thanks Donny!

Directly and indirectly Donny T continues to take care of our best and put REAL Americans first.
We watched that black guy with the un-American name tell our top two-thirds to go fuck themselves while rolling out the red carpet for our lowest grade for eight long years. This is awesome to watch.

Another trickle down success in rightarded conserva-la-la land...

AT&T announces thousands of layoffs, firings just in time for Christmas

But as you said... Thanks Donny!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trickle down Econ already working for AT&T, Wells Fargo and Comcast employees...Thanks Donny!

Directly and indirectly Donny T continues to take care of our best and put REAL Americans first.
We watched that black guy with the un-American name tell our top two-thirds to go fuck themselves while rolling out the red carpet for our lowest grade for eight long years. This is awesome to watch.

Another trickle down success in rightarded conserva-la-la land...

AT&T announces thousands of layoffs, firings just in time for Christmas

But as you said... Thanks Donny!

What did "Donny" have to do with the layoffs?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Trickle down Econ already working for AT&T, Wells Fargo and Comcast employees...Thanks Donny!

Directly and indirectly Donny T continues to take care of our best and put REAL Americans first.
We watched that black guy with the un-American name tell our top two-thirds to go fuck themselves while rolling out the red carpet for our lowest grade for eight long years. This is awesome to watch.

Another trickle down success in rightarded conserva-la-la land...

AT&T announces thousands of layoffs, firings just in time for Christmas

But as you said... Thanks Donny!

Are you thinking these layoffs came in light of the bonuses and or the tax reform?
Or is it plausible that AT&T has been scaling back their personnel related to landline communications for obvious reasons?
Come on think something all the way through for once. Companies project and forecast months or years in advance...they knew they'd be scaling back before DJT ever took office....THINK! Don't just speak.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

People in Canada and Europe aren’t trying to get into the US. We have a higher quality of life right where we are. Government funded health care. Longer life expectancy. Some of the best public schools in the world.

Canadian healthcare is inferior to the United States in large part because many die on their enormous waiting lists.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report
— Published on November 23, 2016

[...]

This edition of Waiting Your Turn indicates that, overall, waiting times for medically necessary treatment have in-creased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 20.0 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment—longer than the wait of 18.3 weeks reported in 2015. This year’s wait time—the longest ever recorded in this survey’s history—is 115% longer than in 1993, when it was just 9.3 weeks.

There is a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. Ontario reports the shortest total wait (15.6 weeks), while New Brunswick reports the longest (38.8 weeks). There is also a great deal of variation among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and Neurosurgery (46.9 weeks), while those waiting for Medical oncology begin treatment in 3.7 weeks.

The total wait time that patients face can be examined in two consecutive segments.

From referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist. The waiting time in this segment increased from 8.5 weeks in 2015 to 9.4 weeks this year. This wait time is 155% longer than in 1993, when it was 3.7 weeks. The shortest waits for specialist consultations are in Ontario (7.2 weeks) while the longest occur in New Brunswick (21.5 weeks).

[...]

Patients also experience significant waiting times for various diagnostic technologies across the provinces. This year, Canadians could expect to wait 3.7 weeks for a computed tomography (CT) scan, 11.1 weeks for a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan, and 4.0 weeks for an ultrasound.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report

Why are Canadians getting health care in Detroit?

Some Canadian mothers forced to give birth in U.S.

Find Canadians who want to abandon their national healthcare and adopt our healthcare for the richest strategy

New poll shows Canadians overwhelmingly support public health care

80 percent support.....you won't find that many Americans supporting our system

This is true. But I talk to Canadian truck drivers all the time. The younger and middle-aged drivers tell me how wonderful the Canadian system is. The older ones told me we should keep what we have or we'll be sorry.

It seems to me that the people against the Canadian system (20%) are those who experienced it with very serious illnesses or medical conditions.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you voted for Donald Trump, you did so because you're a racist, or a 1%er.

And that is the message that won us the election.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The wealthy make their profits off the backs of labor? Well doesn't labor make their money from the people who created the company and product? Why do you leftists always try to make it out as if the workers are doing a favor for the industry? If anybody benefits, it's the worker--not the company. The company can get workers anywhere.


As for infrastructure, we all benefit equally so we should all pay equally.

The wealthy make a profit off of every employee
Capitalists are adding nothing to the process of creating wealth....they just monopolize it

No, we do not all benefit equally off of infrastructure. Without roads, ports, rail business would have no way of getting supplies or shipping their product

The general public need roads to visit grandma.......corporations make profit off of them

Really? So how do you think products get to your stores? You would starve without food, don't you think? And even if we found an alternative way to get products to the store, how would you get to the store without roads and infrastructure?

Exactly

How big a farm could you have if you could only sell your produce the distance you could get without roads or bridges?

How fat could you get if the food grown on the farms never made it to market where you could buy it?

Our population never could have expanded if societies had not invested in roads, bridges, ports, railways

All enabled the wealthy to capitalize on an endless market

I agree. What I disagree with is that it's a one-way street. It isn't. WE ALL benefit from these things and should all pay for them equally.

 

[rightwinger]

People in Canada and Europe aren’t trying to get into the US. We have a higher quality of life right where we are. Government funded health care. Longer life expectancy. Some of the best public schools in the world.

Canadian healthcare is inferior to the United States in large part because many die on their enormous waiting lists.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report
— Published on November 23, 2016

[...]

This edition of Waiting Your Turn indicates that, overall, waiting times for medically necessary treatment have in-creased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 20.0 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment—longer than the wait of 18.3 weeks reported in 2015. This year’s wait time—the longest ever recorded in this survey’s history—is 115% longer than in 1993, when it was just 9.3 weeks.

There is a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. Ontario reports the shortest total wait (15.6 weeks), while New Brunswick reports the longest (38.8 weeks). There is also a great deal of variation among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and Neurosurgery (46.9 weeks), while those waiting for Medical oncology begin treatment in 3.7 weeks.

The total wait time that patients face can be examined in two consecutive segments.

From referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist. The waiting time in this segment increased from 8.5 weeks in 2015 to 9.4 weeks this year. This wait time is 155% longer than in 1993, when it was 3.7 weeks. The shortest waits for specialist consultations are in Ontario (7.2 weeks) while the longest occur in New Brunswick (21.5 weeks).

[...]

Patients also experience significant waiting times for various diagnostic technologies across the provinces. This year, Canadians could expect to wait 3.7 weeks for a computed tomography (CT) scan, 11.1 weeks for a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan, and 4.0 weeks for an ultrasound.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report

Why are Canadians getting health care in Detroit?

Some Canadian mothers forced to give birth in U.S.

Find Canadians who want to abandon their national healthcare and adopt our healthcare for the richest strategy

New poll shows Canadians overwhelmingly support public health care

80 percent support.....you won't find that many Americans supporting our system

This is true. But I talk to Canadian truck drivers all the time. The younger and middle-aged drivers tell me how wonderful the Canadian system is. The older ones told me we should keep what we have or we'll be sorry.

It seems to me that the people against the Canadian system (20%) are those who experienced it with very serious illnesses or medical conditions.

By the same measure

Ask those in the US who have had serious illness and were stuck with the bills