Trickle down Econ already working for AT&T, Wells Fargo and Comcast employees...Thanks Donny!

They would just bring in foreigners to do the work.

They already do. Trump is one of the worst abusers of the work visa program, using them to import foreign labor to work at his Florida resort. Are we to believe that Americans aren't qualified to clean hotel rooms, bus tables, tend bar, check in guests, and provide concierge service?

Sure they are, but our social programs are so generous that it would take a lot of money to pay American workers. Our government is in competition with industry. As Trump stated during his campaign, we need to do this across the board--not here and there. Everybody needs to be playing by the same set of rules.
 
The wealthy make a profit off of every employee
Capitalists are adding nothing to the process of creating wealth....they just monopolize it

No, we do not all benefit equally off of infrastructure. Without roads, ports, rail business would have no way of getting supplies or shipping their product

The general public need roads to visit grandma.......corporations make profit off of them

Really? So how do you think products get to your stores? You would starve without food, don't you think? And even if we found an alternative way to get products to the store, how would you get to the store without roads and infrastructure?

Exactly

How big a farm could you have if you could only sell your produce the distance you could get without roads or bridges?

How fat could you get if the food grown on the farms never made it to market where you could buy it?

Our population never could have expanded if societies had not invested in roads, bridges, ports, railways

All enabled the wealthy to capitalize on an endless market

I agree. What I disagree with is that it's a one-way street. It isn't. WE ALL benefit from these things and should all pay for them equally.

Again I disagree on equally

Those who benefit the most should pay the most
 
People in Canada and Europe aren’t trying to get into the US. We have a higher quality of life right where we are. Government funded health care. Longer life expectancy. Some of the best public schools in the world.

Canadian healthcare is inferior to the United States in large part because many die on their enormous waiting lists.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report
— Published on November 23, 2016

[...]

This edition of Waiting Your Turn indicates that, overall, waiting times for medically necessary treatment have in-creased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 20.0 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment—longer than the wait of 18.3 weeks reported in 2015. This year’s wait time—the longest ever recorded in this survey’s history—is 115% longer than in 1993, when it was just 9.3 weeks.

There is a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. Ontario reports the shortest total wait (15.6 weeks), while New Brunswick reports the longest (38.8 weeks). There is also a great deal of variation among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and Neurosurgery (46.9 weeks), while those waiting for Medical oncology begin treatment in 3.7 weeks.

The total wait time that patients face can be examined in two consecutive segments.

From referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist. The waiting time in this segment increased from 8.5 weeks in 2015 to 9.4 weeks this year. This wait time is 155% longer than in 1993, when it was 3.7 weeks. The shortest waits for specialist consultations are in Ontario (7.2 weeks) while the longest occur in New Brunswick (21.5 weeks).

[...]

Patients also experience significant waiting times for various diagnostic technologies across the provinces. This year, Canadians could expect to wait 3.7 weeks for a computed tomography (CT) scan, 11.1 weeks for a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan, and 4.0 weeks for an ultrasound.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report

Why are Canadians getting health care in Detroit?

Some Canadian mothers forced to give birth in U.S.

Find Canadians who want to abandon their national healthcare and adopt our healthcare for the richest strategy

New poll shows Canadians overwhelmingly support public health care

80 percent support.....you won't find that many Americans supporting our system

This is true. But I talk to Canadian truck drivers all the time. The younger and middle-aged drivers tell me how wonderful the Canadian system is. The older ones told me we should keep what we have or we'll be sorry.

It seems to me that the people against the Canadian system (20%) are those who experienced it with very serious illnesses or medical conditions.

By the same measure

Ask those in the US who have had serious illness and were stuck with the bills

This is true, but at least over here, we have Medicare to take care of the elderly which is when most of us will experience serious illnesses or expensive treatment.
 
People in Canada and Europe aren’t trying to get into the US. We have a higher quality of life right where we are. Government funded health care. Longer life expectancy. Some of the best public schools in the world.

Canadian healthcare is inferior to the United States in large part because many die on their enormous waiting lists.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report
— Published on November 23, 2016

[...]

This edition of Waiting Your Turn indicates that, overall, waiting times for medically necessary treatment have in-creased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 20.0 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment—longer than the wait of 18.3 weeks reported in 2015. This year’s wait time—the longest ever recorded in this survey’s history—is 115% longer than in 1993, when it was just 9.3 weeks.

There is a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. Ontario reports the shortest total wait (15.6 weeks), while New Brunswick reports the longest (38.8 weeks). There is also a great deal of variation among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and Neurosurgery (46.9 weeks), while those waiting for Medical oncology begin treatment in 3.7 weeks.

The total wait time that patients face can be examined in two consecutive segments.

From referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist. The waiting time in this segment increased from 8.5 weeks in 2015 to 9.4 weeks this year. This wait time is 155% longer than in 1993, when it was 3.7 weeks. The shortest waits for specialist consultations are in Ontario (7.2 weeks) while the longest occur in New Brunswick (21.5 weeks).

[...]

Patients also experience significant waiting times for various diagnostic technologies across the provinces. This year, Canadians could expect to wait 3.7 weeks for a computed tomography (CT) scan, 11.1 weeks for a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan, and 4.0 weeks for an ultrasound.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report

Why are Canadians getting health care in Detroit?

Some Canadian mothers forced to give birth in U.S.

Find Canadians who want to abandon their national healthcare and adopt our healthcare for the richest strategy

New poll shows Canadians overwhelmingly support public health care

80 percent support.....you won't find that many Americans supporting our system

Using a report from the Fraser Institute is laughable. The Fraser is a libertarian think tank with a stated goal of repealling the Canada Health Act and dismantling public education in Canada.
How will that create more doctors and reduce wait times?
 
People in Canada and Europe aren’t trying to get into the US. We have a higher quality of life right where we are. Government funded health care. Longer life expectancy. Some of the best public schools in the world.

Canadian healthcare is inferior to the United States in large part because many die on their enormous waiting lists.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report
— Published on November 23, 2016

[...]

This edition of Waiting Your Turn indicates that, overall, waiting times for medically necessary treatment have in-creased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 20.0 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment—longer than the wait of 18.3 weeks reported in 2015. This year’s wait time—the longest ever recorded in this survey’s history—is 115% longer than in 1993, when it was just 9.3 weeks.

There is a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. Ontario reports the shortest total wait (15.6 weeks), while New Brunswick reports the longest (38.8 weeks). There is also a great deal of variation among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and Neurosurgery (46.9 weeks), while those waiting for Medical oncology begin treatment in 3.7 weeks.

The total wait time that patients face can be examined in two consecutive segments.

From referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist. The waiting time in this segment increased from 8.5 weeks in 2015 to 9.4 weeks this year. This wait time is 155% longer than in 1993, when it was 3.7 weeks. The shortest waits for specialist consultations are in Ontario (7.2 weeks) while the longest occur in New Brunswick (21.5 weeks).

[...]

Patients also experience significant waiting times for various diagnostic technologies across the provinces. This year, Canadians could expect to wait 3.7 weeks for a computed tomography (CT) scan, 11.1 weeks for a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan, and 4.0 weeks for an ultrasound.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report

Why are Canadians getting health care in Detroit?

Some Canadian mothers forced to give birth in U.S.

Find Canadians who want to abandon their national healthcare and adopt our healthcare for the richest strategy

New poll shows Canadians overwhelmingly support public health care

80 percent support.....you won't find that many Americans supporting our system

This is true. But I talk to Canadian truck drivers all the time. The younger and middle-aged drivers tell me how wonderful the Canadian system is. The older ones told me we should keep what we have or we'll be sorry.

It seems to me that the people against the Canadian system (20%) are those who experienced it with very serious illnesses or medical conditions.

The Canada Health Act was originally passed in 1966. That’s more than 50 years ago. Few remember what it was like before health care was government funded. It certainly wasn’t better than the system we have now.

Those who have very serious illnesses are the ones who appreciate it the most. My MIL had cancer. The family wasn’t bankrupted by co-pays or funding caps. Nor were they out of pocket for her hip replacement.
 
People in Canada and Europe aren’t trying to get into the US. We have a higher quality of life right where we are. Government funded health care. Longer life expectancy. Some of the best public schools in the world.

Canadian healthcare is inferior to the United States in large part because many die on their enormous waiting lists.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report
— Published on November 23, 2016

[...]

This edition of Waiting Your Turn indicates that, overall, waiting times for medically necessary treatment have in-creased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 20.0 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment—longer than the wait of 18.3 weeks reported in 2015. This year’s wait time—the longest ever recorded in this survey’s history—is 115% longer than in 1993, when it was just 9.3 weeks.

There is a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. Ontario reports the shortest total wait (15.6 weeks), while New Brunswick reports the longest (38.8 weeks). There is also a great deal of variation among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and Neurosurgery (46.9 weeks), while those waiting for Medical oncology begin treatment in 3.7 weeks.

The total wait time that patients face can be examined in two consecutive segments.

From referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist. The waiting time in this segment increased from 8.5 weeks in 2015 to 9.4 weeks this year. This wait time is 155% longer than in 1993, when it was 3.7 weeks. The shortest waits for specialist consultations are in Ontario (7.2 weeks) while the longest occur in New Brunswick (21.5 weeks).

[...]

Patients also experience significant waiting times for various diagnostic technologies across the provinces. This year, Canadians could expect to wait 3.7 weeks for a computed tomography (CT) scan, 11.1 weeks for a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan, and 4.0 weeks for an ultrasound.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report

Why are Canadians getting health care in Detroit?

Some Canadian mothers forced to give birth in U.S.

Find Canadians who want to abandon their national healthcare and adopt our healthcare for the richest strategy

New poll shows Canadians overwhelmingly support public health care

80 percent support.....you won't find that many Americans supporting our system

This is true. But I talk to Canadian truck drivers all the time. The younger and middle-aged drivers tell me how wonderful the Canadian system is. The older ones told me we should keep what we have or we'll be sorry.

It seems to me that the people against the Canadian system (20%) are those who experienced it with very serious illnesses or medical conditions.

The Canada Health Act was originally passed in 1966. That’s more than 50 years ago. Few remember what it was like before health care was government funded. It certainly wasn’t better than the system we have now.

Those who have very serious illnesses are the ones who appreciate it the most. My MIL had cancer. The family wasn’t bankrupted by co-pays or funding caps. Nor were they out of pocket for her hip replacement.
Everyone in my community who came from Canada couldn't get the care or medications they needed.
I think we have to take this case by case.
 
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People in Canada and Europe aren’t trying to get into the US. We have a higher quality of life right where we are. Government funded health care. Longer life expectancy. Some of the best public schools in the world.

Canadian healthcare is inferior to the United States in large part because many die on their enormous waiting lists.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report
— Published on November 23, 2016

[...]

This edition of Waiting Your Turn indicates that, overall, waiting times for medically necessary treatment have in-creased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 20.0 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment—longer than the wait of 18.3 weeks reported in 2015. This year’s wait time—the longest ever recorded in this survey’s history—is 115% longer than in 1993, when it was just 9.3 weeks.

There is a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. Ontario reports the shortest total wait (15.6 weeks), while New Brunswick reports the longest (38.8 weeks). There is also a great deal of variation among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and Neurosurgery (46.9 weeks), while those waiting for Medical oncology begin treatment in 3.7 weeks.

The total wait time that patients face can be examined in two consecutive segments.

From referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist. The waiting time in this segment increased from 8.5 weeks in 2015 to 9.4 weeks this year. This wait time is 155% longer than in 1993, when it was 3.7 weeks. The shortest waits for specialist consultations are in Ontario (7.2 weeks) while the longest occur in New Brunswick (21.5 weeks).

[...]

Patients also experience significant waiting times for various diagnostic technologies across the provinces. This year, Canadians could expect to wait 3.7 weeks for a computed tomography (CT) scan, 11.1 weeks for a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan, and 4.0 weeks for an ultrasound.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report

Why are Canadians getting health care in Detroit?

Some Canadian mothers forced to give birth in U.S.

Find Canadians who want to abandon their national healthcare and adopt our healthcare for the richest strategy

New poll shows Canadians overwhelmingly support public health care

80 percent support.....you won't find that many Americans supporting our system

This is true. But I talk to Canadian truck drivers all the time. The younger and middle-aged drivers tell me how wonderful the Canadian system is. The older ones told me we should keep what we have or we'll be sorry.

It seems to me that the people against the Canadian system (20%) are those who experienced it with very serious illnesses or medical conditions.

The Canada Health Act was originally passed in 1966. That’s more than 50 years ago. Few remember what it was like before health care was government funded. It certainly wasn’t better than the system we have now.

Those who have very serious illnesses are the ones who appreciate it the most. My MIL had cancer. The family wasn’t bankrupted by co-pays or funding caps. Nor were they out of pocket for her hip replacement.

But your system is far from perfect and certainly not great enough to criticize ours. Our system has problems just like yours, and anybody that thinks the Canadian system is the epitome of great healthcare is kidding themselves.

Remember I live in Cleveland which is just over Lake Erie, and here we have the Cleveland Clinch which is host to many Canadian patients.

Our quality of care is the best in the world, but it comes at a cost. Like the old saying goes, you get what you pay for. But Canadians are far from the only non-Americans at the Cleveland Clinic. People come from all over the world to get our care; not only patients, but medical personnel as well.

I've had several foreign doctors that told me they only came here to study with the intent of returning to their home country to work. But when they realized how much better the pay is over here, they decided to stay. So we do attract the best from all over the world.

Our only problem is trying to figure out how to maintain our high standards while at the same time, giving more people access to it.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada...dramatically-less-than-u-s-counterparts-study
 
My evil Corp employer who has given me a raise every yr just robbed me of $500, Only gave us $500 Trump bonus and everyone else is getting a grand.....Not going to stand for this,,,,,no sir,,,,i want my fair share dammit
 
Why are employers giving "Trump bonus's" now?

Because they can deduct them at 39% rather than 20% after January
 
Why are employers giving "Trump bonus's" now?

Because they can deduct them at 39% rather than 20% after January

What????

Current Corporate tax rate is at 39%
If you hand out a bonus now, you are deducting revenue that is being taxed at 39%
If you wait a week, you are deducting revenue that is being taxed at 20%
 
People in Canada and Europe aren’t trying to get into the US. We have a higher quality of life right where we are. Government funded health care. Longer life expectancy. Some of the best public schools in the world.

Canadian healthcare is inferior to the United States in large part because many die on their enormous waiting lists.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report
— Published on November 23, 2016

[...]

This edition of Waiting Your Turn indicates that, overall, waiting times for medically necessary treatment have in-creased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 20.0 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment—longer than the wait of 18.3 weeks reported in 2015. This year’s wait time—the longest ever recorded in this survey’s history—is 115% longer than in 1993, when it was just 9.3 weeks.

There is a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. Ontario reports the shortest total wait (15.6 weeks), while New Brunswick reports the longest (38.8 weeks). There is also a great deal of variation among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and Neurosurgery (46.9 weeks), while those waiting for Medical oncology begin treatment in 3.7 weeks.

The total wait time that patients face can be examined in two consecutive segments.

From referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist. The waiting time in this segment increased from 8.5 weeks in 2015 to 9.4 weeks this year. This wait time is 155% longer than in 1993, when it was 3.7 weeks. The shortest waits for specialist consultations are in Ontario (7.2 weeks) while the longest occur in New Brunswick (21.5 weeks).

[...]

Patients also experience significant waiting times for various diagnostic technologies across the provinces. This year, Canadians could expect to wait 3.7 weeks for a computed tomography (CT) scan, 11.1 weeks for a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan, and 4.0 weeks for an ultrasound.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2016 Report

Why are Canadians getting health care in Detroit?

Some Canadian mothers forced to give birth in U.S.

Find Canadians who want to abandon their national healthcare and adopt our healthcare for the richest strategy

New poll shows Canadians overwhelmingly support public health care

80 percent support.....you won't find that many Americans supporting our system

This is true. But I talk to Canadian truck drivers all the time. The younger and middle-aged drivers tell me how wonderful the Canadian system is. The older ones told me we should keep what we have or we'll be sorry.

It seems to me that the people against the Canadian system (20%) are those who experienced it with very serious illnesses or medical conditions.

The Canada Health Act was originally passed in 1966. That’s more than 50 years ago. Few remember what it was like before health care was government funded. It certainly wasn’t better than the system we have now.

Those who have very serious illnesses are the ones who appreciate it the most. My MIL had cancer. The family wasn’t bankrupted by co-pays or funding caps. Nor were they out of pocket for her hip replacement.

But your system is far from perfect and certainly not great enough to criticize ours. Our system has problems just like yours, and anybody that thinks the Canadian system is the epitome of great healthcare is kidding themselves.

Remember I live in Cleveland which is just over Lake Erie, and here we have the Cleveland Clinch which is host to many Canadian patients.

Our quality of care is the best in the world, but it comes at a cost. Like the old saying goes, you get what you pay for. But Canadians are far from the only non-Americans at the Cleveland Clinic. People come from all over the world to get our care; not only patients, but medical personnel as well.

I've had several foreign doctors that told me they only came here to study with the intent of returning to their home country to work. But when they realized how much better the pay is over here, they decided to stay. So we do attract the best from all over the world.

Our only problem is trying to figure out how to maintain our high standards while at the same time, giving more people access to it.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada...dramatically-less-than-u-s-counterparts-study

Every time American conservatives criticize the Canadian health care system, they quote the Fraser Institute, which wants to demolish the system, or the National Post, a failing ultra right-wing newspaper started by Conrad Black because there was no publication conservative enough for the lying asshole in Canada.

Given that every country in the First World has better health care than the US, every nation except the US is seeing our life expectancy increase while yours has declined the past two years, it puts the lie to the idea that you have the “best” health care in the world.

It’s not even close to the best. You talk about the occasional good hospital as if this is the routine standard of health care throughout your country. It’s not. Not even close. These hospitals are built and maintained by the wealthy for the wealthy.

You brag about people coming to the US for treatment. Millions in your country have no access to health care. That’s because you sell your health care to the world while depriving your own citizens of treatment.

In Canada, we spend our money treating our citizens, not selling it to the highest bidder. Hospitals aren’t allowed to take in foreign patients as long as there are waiting lists of taxpayers waiting for treatment.

You have vast swaths of your country with no doctors, no hospitals and no treatment facilities for the chronically ill because they’re in poor neighbourhoods. And yet you sell access to foreigners.

If you’re born wealthy, you have access to excellent health care. Everyone else has to scramble for what they can get. And fight for it. Fight with insurance companies who routinely deny treatment. Fight to come up with copays and deal with spending caps. The quality of care the wealthy receive is far different than the care everyone else gets.

Hardly a system to be proud of.
 
If I get to keep 79 cents of every dollar in corporate profit, instead of only 65 cents, that extra 21.5% profit is gonna make me expand like a motherfucker!

No it's not, because you expand prior to paying tax on profits. In fact, you expand in order to lower your tax liability. But if the tax liability is already lowered, then there's no need to expand. A higher corporate profit tax forces a business to invest in itself and expand in order to avoid a higher tax liability. Businesses don't need a tax cut to expand and in fact, cutting profit taxes discourages reinvestment and expansion.

The problem with you is that you simply lack the experience and knowledge, and you play pretend that you do on a message board.
 
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Sure they are, but our social programs are so generous that it would take a lot of money to pay American workers..

So it's about greed and not about hiring American. The reason Trump uses the visas is because he doesn't want to pay a prevailing rate. We're to believe that of the 368,000 unemployed Floridians not a single one of them can clean a hotel room?


ur government is in competition with industry. As Trump stated during his campaign, we need to do this across the board--not here and there. Everybody needs to be playing by the same set of rules.

You don't seem to understand what you're defending here. Social Programs are why Trump doesn't hire Americans to work the jobs at his resorts? How so? What do social programs have to do with Donald Trump hiring an American instead of a foreigner?
 
You don't seem to understand what you're defending here. Social Programs are why Trump doesn't hire Americans to work the jobs at his resorts? How so? What do social programs have to do with Donald Trump hiring an American instead of a foreigner?

If you don't pay Americans enough money, they just get their Obama phone, their SNAP's card, their HUD house in the suburbs, and live better that way.

So it's about greed and not about hiring American. The reason Trump uses the visas is because he doesn't want to pay a prevailing rate. We're to believe that of the 368,000 unemployed Floridians not a single one of them can clean a hotel room?

I'm sure a lot of them can, but why should they?
 
This is true, but at least over here, we have Medicare to take care of the elderly which is when most of us will experience serious illnesses or expensive treatment.

You realize Medicare doesn't pay for long-term care in nursing homes or convalescent homes, right? That's paid by Medicaid. Something like 80% of all LTC and convalescent care is paid by Medicaid, which you want to cut. So I hope you enjoy wiping your elderly parents' dirty asses, bathing them, and doing all the things that nursing homes do because that's literally what you're going to have to do because you can't afford LTC for them, thanks to the cuts in Medicaid you argue for...because you're a stupid motherfucker who doesn't know anything, but you run your fat mouth anyway. So forget about taking time off from work for yourself...you'll need that time off to care for your old, sick parents who couldn't afford LTC thanks to your stupid support of dumb tax plans and bullshit right-wing rhetoric.
 
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