iceberg
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I gave your post that winner ,,,but I don't defend Bill I guess I just didn't give a damn I thought he was a reasonably good president but after voting for GWB I just couldn't take him or the repub congress anymore and switched Market getting killed this morning going for nails and haircut cu laterand therein lies the problem. if hillary can setup a private e-mail server and delete 33k "personal mails" and there is no consequence, hell you can run for president with such questionable logic, what can the next guy do?it just seems to me iceman that the way SOME people think that if it was ok for Bill and he got away with it why can't Trump?? and BTW I was a Republican in those days and only changed to become a DEM after voting for GWB in 2000,,,,,,Trump imo is a disgrace and I don't think much of his supporters eitherso you'll change the criteria again when you don't like how it fits...ll take the word of 12 women over the word of a thrice married pervertto use your own criteria -
let me know which court found trump guilty of excessive, or any, pussy grabbing.
your rules, man. i just apply them evenly. you say i'm defending trump, i say you're blindly attacking.
and - again you keep thinking i'm defending trump and i would suppose indirectly i am - but my point is you excuse the sexual misconduct for bill, say "what court found clinton guilty"? as a "get out of jail" free card, but you won't apply that same method of thinking to trump cause ...
well i think we both know why.
seems you don't care who clinton does or how inappropriately he can act, but trump? you hate him so nothing will ever get by you w/o you bagging on trump.
again, i understand it, but i don't think you see how shallow and superficial it makes you look.
president over president we've slowly kept pushing what we allow for no other reason than the last guy got away with it. but again, we push further each time in some way. further way from ourselves, further away from being able to reel it back in, and further away from ever being a complete country again.
we can't talk about the crimes of 1 politician because someone will bring up what the last one got away with. now those who liked the last one will defend to the death and crank up their attacks on the other side and THIS IS WHERE OUR DIVIDE COMES FROM.
a refusal to see ourselves for who we are and what we are doing because of what the last guy got away with.
sooner or later the excuses must stop and accountability must kick in or it's over. while you run around going WAH TRUMP IS MEAN how is that going to stop a thing? yes, he is. a dick quite often. but the constant petty fights both sides engage in is the weak point here. i don't have a problem with many of trumps policies, i have a problem with him having to answer each and every criticism he gets in a warlike fashion. that sets off more of the left and suddenly we're worse off talking about bad phone conversations and this is not any better than where do people pee anymore?
are we really this petty a country to where we define our leadership by how they act on the phone and if they take up the great "pee where you want" cause while the rest of the world falls to shit?
so i get frustrated because people bicker over the most petty crap as if it is life changing and more important than our educational system that is falling apart. our infrastructure that is woefully inadequate for handle our growth. our culture has gotten so wrapped up into 140 characters or less they can't see the big picture or what really matters.
just hate trump. all good.
you're right in that "bill got away with it, why can't trump"? i see you defend bill despite his actions being on par with trumps.
why?
and therein lies the problem. you give a damn when someone you don't like does it, but if someone you like does it, you don't care.
we don't hold people equally accountable for their actions and then sit around and wonder why we're in the toilet bowl we are in.
i don't defend trump either - i don't give a damn. so if we don't give a damn when our side screws up, how can we expect anything to change?