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Who said anything about "keep" ?View attachment 791550
From your own link.
Presidential records are the property of the US Government and are to be retained by the NARA.
"Having access" and "being in possession of" are two very different things. Section 2205 (3) means that the former President (or his designee) can arrange with the NARA for access to their facilities to review materials. It doesn't mean the FPOTUS gets to keep the documents.
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HA HA, Both of you failed. Section 2205 (3) is all you need to know.Great post. Protectionist is promoting ignorance.
1. Just if there were documents found (or planted) in Mar-a-Lago, that doesnt establish that Trump was "in possession" of them. NOBODY can ascertain that Trump had any knowledge that any document ever left the White House. So everything you're saying is moot.
2. You still don't seem to get it. The burden of proof still lies with the accuser (who has no way of showing/proving that Trump knew anythng of any documents moving about anywhere.
3. What you claim "appears" only appears in the most subjective of any analysis, not worthy of any courtroom prosecution. Even if anything at all were wrong about these documents, to prosecute Trump, criminal intent would have to be shown - when it can't even be shown that he knew any documents ever were in Mar-a-Lago, IF they even were (rather than planted) which also can't be shown.
Holy shit. You got him this time . Good work ..The DOJ reportedly has a recording of the former president saying he knew he couldn’t simply declassify documents after leaving the White House.
Trump Caught On Tape Admitting He Kept Classified Docs: Report
Federal prosecutors have a recording of Donald Trump admitting he kept a classified document following his departure from office, CNN reports.www.rollingstone.com
DONALD TRUMP’S CLAIM that he had declassified the massive trove of government documents he took to Mar-a-Lago was dubious from the start. Well, CNN reported on Wednesday that federal prosecutors overseeing the probe into the documents have obtained a recording of the former president admitting that he kept a classified document containing information about a proposed attack plan against Iran.
The meeting in question reportedly took place in July 2021 at Trump’s golf course in Bedminster, New Jersey. The former president met with biographers for his former Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, who was not present, and members of his own staff. Several individuals participating in the conversation lacked security clearances.
Multiple sources who described the recording to CNN say the president indicated that while he wished he could describe the contents of a document to attendees, he was both aware he had retained classified materials and that he could not flat-out declassify documents following his departure from the presidency.
The DOJ has the tapes, which means Special Prosecutor Jack Smith has the tapes and/or has heard the tapes.
The Rapist and Traitor is actually dead dumb fucking stupid to admit on taped conversation he knowingly and willingly removed classified material from the WH and had it brought Shit-A-Lago. He also admits that he knew he could declassify said classified documents.
The sheer outright level of stupid that Orange Faced Asshole continues to demonstrate will never cease to amaze.
Who said anything about "keep" ?
"(3) the Presidential records of a former President shall be available to such former President or the former President's designated representative."
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title44/chapter22&edition=prelim
Some people have to be told twice.
Apparently ? No "recording" is "apparent" to me unless I see it. You got it ? You can post it ? If not, all you have is words.*If* what is being reported is true - and we will find out soon enough, one way or another - then there's pretty strong evident that he knew he was in possession of classified documents. Apparently a recording exists of him admitting knowledge of this fact. I'm willing to wait to see what evidence the DOJ thinks it has.
The burden of proof lies on the prosecution to prove that Trump willfully mishandled classified information, or that he did so in a grossly negligent manner. Again, apparently there are multiple witnesses willing to testify against him and even a tape of his own admission. Nobody actually knows what evidence the DOJ actually does or does not have, but if the reports are true, then Trump will likely be indicted on serious federal charges.
I use the word "appears" because I'm not the DOJ. Nobody, including myself, yet knows what evidence there is. We'll have to wait.
Apparently ? No "recording" is :apparent" to me unless I see it. You got it ? You can post it ? If not, all you have is words.
From your own link >>Section 2202 Ownership of Presidential Records:View attachment 791550
From your own link.
Presidential records are the property of the US Government and are to be retained by the NARA.
"Having access" and "being in possession of" are two very different things. Section 2205 (3) means that the former President (or his designee) can arrange with the NARA for access to their facilities to review materials. It doesn't mean the FPOTUS gets to keep the documents.
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So you have no such recording that you mentioned. 10-4.Then let's just wait and see what the evidence is. Deal?
So you have no such recording that you mentioned. 10-4.
None of that world class sucking up will get you even a penny of the Biden crime family fun money.Nope. I want candidates who are calm, intelligent and decent. ... educated instead of vulgar.
At least Trump does manage to THINK before he plows into someThe notion that he can "think" to declassify documents is absurd. Trump is a lying turd.
How about like Just one Remedial Reading Course.Never said I did. Looks like you need to take some remedial reading courses.
How about like Just one Remedial Reading Course.
Fer starters.
Some people have to be told twice.
Ok, so the system fails, because how many in the past have removed documents after the declassification of the documents were completed by whatever methods are allowed ? Isn't the system contradictory of itself ? When did the allowance of document's removal start ?View attachment 791550
From your own link.
Presidential records are the property of the US Government and are to be retained by the NARA.
"Having access" and "being in possession of" are two very different things. Section 2205 (3) means that the former President (or his designee) can arrange with the NARA for access to their facilities to review materials. It doesn't mean the FPOTUS gets to keep the documents.
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Ok, so the system fails, because how many in the past have removed documents after the declassification of the documents were completed by whatever methods are allowed ? Isn't the system contradictory of itself ? When did the allowance of document's removal start ?
Turned over from where ? And what was being required to be turned over ?Since it's passage in 1978, President's have turned over Presidential Records to the NARA for custody.
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Turned over from where ? And what was being required to be turned over ?
And what was being required to be turned over ?
www.archives.gov
You still aren't addressing the inconsistencies of the record keeper's, otherwise who undoubtedly weren't or haven't been consistent in their government roles or job's, and therefore we wouldn't be having this discussion if it did. So is the record's keeping apparatus being used in a cherry picking weaponized way for political purposes ?"From where" doesn't make sense. Please clarify. It would be, presumably the location of the records as of noon on January 20 at the end of the Presidents term.
Presidential Records (44 U.S.C. Chapter 22)
(44 U.S.C. Chapter 22) § 2201. Definitions § 2202. Ownership of Presidential records § 2203. Management and custody of Presidential records § 2204. Restrictions on access to Presidential records § 2205. Exceptions to restricted access § 2206. Regulations § 2207. Vice-Presidential records § Note...
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