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It's not, hyperbole is a terrible argument. But I'm open to exploring it. Why is it alarming?
High turnover is never good in any job. Just when people get settled in and learn how shit works. Just when your counterparts get used to dealing with you. Just when you get a grip on your bosses expectations. You throw it all away and start anew.

Trump hand picked his cabinet. Now a year later he fires half of them. Indicates to me he wants a bunch of yes men rather than the plethora of opinions he CLAIMS to want.

There is no situation, where a man of trumps supposed caliber & wisdom, can pick a cabinet then a year later discover they were all wrong for the job.

It's crystal clear to me that he is looking for a rubber stamp for his ideas.

OK, so you have nothing but generic. I thought maybe you had a more specific point to make. Picking politicians to fill all jobs and sticking with them through corruption sure hasn't worked. I'm sure open to trying something else. You have no facts or rates to back it up. There is the generic rate he churns faster than Obama, but that's not a meaningful, specific statistic and Obama's staff sure sucked
I've run a business for near 30 years. Trump has done the same even longer. ANY smart business man knows a high turnover rate leads to lower production & morale. It also lends itself to a lot of "learning on the job" which is a slow process.
There will always be a few bad apples that slip through the hiring process but Trump is over 40% turnover in his cabinet. That is ridiculous and could easily be a sign that the problems may very well stem from the oval office rather than all of those people HE HAND PICKED being bad for the job.

And I'm not going to debate this with you any further. I have an objective opinion and you have your head in the clouds.

I agree. I've owned five businesses and spent my career in management and management consulting. Has Trump done that with his business? I find comparing that to the cabinet weak.

You need to be more specific to make a decent case about which specific turnover you find objectionable. He's obviously trying to figure out how to build his cabinet. I'd rather do some churning than stay with bad picks that didn't work.

And still, you've never given any actual statistics other than comparing him to Obama, who was an abject failure
And I didn't compare him to Obama, YOU DID.

FAILSAUCE

Swish.

I'm saying the only stat I've seen is the fake news who compare his turnover to Obama. I didn't say you did that. I'm saying that's the only stat I've seen, and you just confirmed you didn't even provide that one.

What is his overall turnover rate so far? Do you even know? Or you're just going by the fake news headlines?
 
High turnover is never good in any job. Just when people get settled in and learn how shit works. Just when your counterparts get used to dealing with you. Just when you get a grip on your bosses expectations. You throw it all away and start anew.

Trump hand picked his cabinet. Now a year later he fires half of them. Indicates to me he wants a bunch of yes men rather than the plethora of opinions he CLAIMS to want.

There is no situation, where a man of trumps supposed caliber & wisdom, can pick a cabinet then a year later discover they were all wrong for the job.

It's crystal clear to me that he is looking for a rubber stamp for his ideas.

OK, so you have nothing but generic. I thought maybe you had a more specific point to make. Picking politicians to fill all jobs and sticking with them through corruption sure hasn't worked. I'm sure open to trying something else. You have no facts or rates to back it up. There is the generic rate he churns faster than Obama, but that's not a meaningful, specific statistic and Obama's staff sure sucked
I've run a business for near 30 years. Trump has done the same even longer. ANY smart business man knows a high turnover rate leads to lower production & morale. It also lends itself to a lot of "learning on the job" which is a slow process.
There will always be a few bad apples that slip through the hiring process but Trump is over 40% turnover in his cabinet. That is ridiculous and could easily be a sign that the problems may very well stem from the oval office rather than all of those people HE HAND PICKED being bad for the job.

And I'm not going to debate this with you any further. I have an objective opinion and you have your head in the clouds.

I agree. I've owned five businesses and spent my career in management and management consulting. Has Trump done that with his business? I find comparing that to the cabinet weak.

You need to be more specific to make a decent case about which specific turnover you find objectionable. He's obviously trying to figure out how to build his cabinet. I'd rather do some churning than stay with bad picks that didn't work.

And still, you've never given any actual statistics other than comparing him to Obama, who was an abject failure
You find it weak? Lol

Trump himself bragged about his business acumen and said that was the special quality he was going to being to Washington.

Apparently he left it behind in Trump Tower...

Maybe you could provide some stats on how many appointments he's made and how much turnover he's had as a percentage.

Without that, yes, it's weak.

And as a business owner, do you stay with your hiring mistakes or deal with it?
I already gave you the %

40%
 
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High turnover is never good in any job. Just when people get settled in and learn how shit works. Just when your counterparts get used to dealing with you. Just when you get a grip on your bosses expectations. You throw it all away and start anew.

Trump hand picked his cabinet. Now a year later he fires half of them. Indicates to me he wants a bunch of yes men rather than the plethora of opinions he CLAIMS to want.

There is no situation, where a man of trumps supposed caliber & wisdom, can pick a cabinet then a year later discover they were all wrong for the job.

It's crystal clear to me that he is looking for a rubber stamp for his ideas.

OK, so you have nothing but generic. I thought maybe you had a more specific point to make. Picking politicians to fill all jobs and sticking with them through corruption sure hasn't worked. I'm sure open to trying something else. You have no facts or rates to back it up. There is the generic rate he churns faster than Obama, but that's not a meaningful, specific statistic and Obama's staff sure sucked
I've run a business for near 30 years. Trump has done the same even longer. ANY smart business man knows a high turnover rate leads to lower production & morale. It also lends itself to a lot of "learning on the job" which is a slow process.
There will always be a few bad apples that slip through the hiring process but Trump is over 40% turnover in his cabinet. That is ridiculous and could easily be a sign that the problems may very well stem from the oval office rather than all of those people HE HAND PICKED being bad for the job.

And I'm not going to debate this with you any further. I have an objective opinion and you have your head in the clouds.

I agree. I've owned five businesses and spent my career in management and management consulting. Has Trump done that with his business? I find comparing that to the cabinet weak.

You need to be more specific to make a decent case about which specific turnover you find objectionable. He's obviously trying to figure out how to build his cabinet. I'd rather do some churning than stay with bad picks that didn't work.

And still, you've never given any actual statistics other than comparing him to Obama, who was an abject failure
And I didn't compare him to Obama, YOU DID.

FAILSAUCE

Swish.

I'm saying the only stat I've seen is the fake news who compare his turnover to Obama. I didn't say you did that. I'm saying that's the only stat I've seen, and you just confirmed you didn't even provide that one.

What is his overall turnover rate so far? Do you even know? Or you're just going by the fake news headlines?
I already told you the percentage several posts ago. Perhaps you should read my posts BEFORE responding to them...
 
OK, so you have nothing but generic. I thought maybe you had a more specific point to make. Picking politicians to fill all jobs and sticking with them through corruption sure hasn't worked. I'm sure open to trying something else. You have no facts or rates to back it up. There is the generic rate he churns faster than Obama, but that's not a meaningful, specific statistic and Obama's staff sure sucked
I've run a business for near 30 years. Trump has done the same even longer. ANY smart business man knows a high turnover rate leads to lower production & morale. It also lends itself to a lot of "learning on the job" which is a slow process.
There will always be a few bad apples that slip through the hiring process but Trump is over 40% turnover in his cabinet. That is ridiculous and could easily be a sign that the problems may very well stem from the oval office rather than all of those people HE HAND PICKED being bad for the job.

And I'm not going to debate this with you any further. I have an objective opinion and you have your head in the clouds.

I agree. I've owned five businesses and spent my career in management and management consulting. Has Trump done that with his business? I find comparing that to the cabinet weak.

You need to be more specific to make a decent case about which specific turnover you find objectionable. He's obviously trying to figure out how to build his cabinet. I'd rather do some churning than stay with bad picks that didn't work.

And still, you've never given any actual statistics other than comparing him to Obama, who was an abject failure
You find it weak? Lol

Trump himself bragged about his business acumen and said that was the special quality he was going to being to Washington.

Apparently he left it behind in Trump Tower...

Maybe you could provide some stats on how many appointments he's made and how much turnover he's had as a percentage.

Without that, yes, it's weak.

And as a business owner, do you stay with your hiring mistakes or deal with it?
I already gave you the %

40%

I missed that. I searched and you did put it there.

OK, but the number for all his other appointees is far lower and they do the real work. He has no experience picking a political cabinet.

So what specific problems do you attribute to this?
 
I've run a business for near 30 years. Trump has done the same even longer. ANY smart business man knows a high turnover rate leads to lower production & morale. It also lends itself to a lot of "learning on the job" which is a slow process.
There will always be a few bad apples that slip through the hiring process but Trump is over 40% turnover in his cabinet. That is ridiculous and could easily be a sign that the problems may very well stem from the oval office rather than all of those people HE HAND PICKED being bad for the job.

And I'm not going to debate this with you any further. I have an objective opinion and you have your head in the clouds.

I agree. I've owned five businesses and spent my career in management and management consulting. Has Trump done that with his business? I find comparing that to the cabinet weak.

You need to be more specific to make a decent case about which specific turnover you find objectionable. He's obviously trying to figure out how to build his cabinet. I'd rather do some churning than stay with bad picks that didn't work.

And still, you've never given any actual statistics other than comparing him to Obama, who was an abject failure
You find it weak? Lol

Trump himself bragged about his business acumen and said that was the special quality he was going to being to Washington.

Apparently he left it behind in Trump Tower...

Maybe you could provide some stats on how many appointments he's made and how much turnover he's had as a percentage.

Without that, yes, it's weak.

And as a business owner, do you stay with your hiring mistakes or deal with it?
I already gave you the %

40%

I missed that. I searched and you did put it there.

OK, but the number for all his other appointees is far lower and they do the real work. He has no experience picking a political cabinet.

So what specific problems do you attribute to this?
Look, I'm not saying this is a 3 alarm fire. I'm just saying we should be weary of what is going on. Low morale & fear for job security can be a real thorn if it becomes an issue.
 
I agree. I've owned five businesses and spent my career in management and management consulting. Has Trump done that with his business? I find comparing that to the cabinet weak.

You need to be more specific to make a decent case about which specific turnover you find objectionable. He's obviously trying to figure out how to build his cabinet. I'd rather do some churning than stay with bad picks that didn't work.

And still, you've never given any actual statistics other than comparing him to Obama, who was an abject failure
You find it weak? Lol

Trump himself bragged about his business acumen and said that was the special quality he was going to being to Washington.

Apparently he left it behind in Trump Tower...

Maybe you could provide some stats on how many appointments he's made and how much turnover he's had as a percentage.

Without that, yes, it's weak.

And as a business owner, do you stay with your hiring mistakes or deal with it?
I already gave you the %

40%

I missed that. I searched and you did put it there.

OK, but the number for all his other appointees is far lower and they do the real work. He has no experience picking a political cabinet.

So what specific problems do you attribute to this?
Look, I'm not saying this is a 3 alarm fire. I'm just saying we should be weary of what is going on. Low morale & fear for job security can be a real thorn if it becomes an issue.

IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE ???????

I'd guess 95% of Trumps people feel like they're walkng on thin ice right now.
 
I agree. I've owned five businesses and spent my career in management and management consulting. Has Trump done that with his business? I find comparing that to the cabinet weak.

You need to be more specific to make a decent case about which specific turnover you find objectionable. He's obviously trying to figure out how to build his cabinet. I'd rather do some churning than stay with bad picks that didn't work.

And still, you've never given any actual statistics other than comparing him to Obama, who was an abject failure
You find it weak? Lol

Trump himself bragged about his business acumen and said that was the special quality he was going to being to Washington.

Apparently he left it behind in Trump Tower...

Maybe you could provide some stats on how many appointments he's made and how much turnover he's had as a percentage.

Without that, yes, it's weak.

And as a business owner, do you stay with your hiring mistakes or deal with it?
I already gave you the %

40%

I missed that. I searched and you did put it there.

OK, but the number for all his other appointees is far lower and they do the real work. He has no experience picking a political cabinet.

So what specific problems do you attribute to this?
Look, I'm not saying this is a 3 alarm fire. I'm just saying we should be weary of what is going on. Low morale & fear for job security can be a real thorn if it becomes an issue.

I'd be more concerned about the lower ranks. But cabinet level suffering from low morale? That's major league hardball up there. They don't belong there if that's an issue for them
 
You find it weak? Lol

Trump himself bragged about his business acumen and said that was the special quality he was going to being to Washington.

Apparently he left it behind in Trump Tower...

Maybe you could provide some stats on how many appointments he's made and how much turnover he's had as a percentage.

Without that, yes, it's weak.

And as a business owner, do you stay with your hiring mistakes or deal with it?
I already gave you the %

40%

I missed that. I searched and you did put it there.

OK, but the number for all his other appointees is far lower and they do the real work. He has no experience picking a political cabinet.

So what specific problems do you attribute to this?
Look, I'm not saying this is a 3 alarm fire. I'm just saying we should be weary of what is going on. Low morale & fear for job security can be a real thorn if it becomes an issue.

IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE ???????

I'd guess 95% of Trumps people feel like they're walkng on thin ice right now.

If they are at that level and that worried, they should be 100% concerned
 
We're going to the bargaining table with NK and we'll have to be steadfast
and deal from a position of strength.
You're delusional, and so is Trump. Those fools don't strengthen anything but Kim's belief that he needs nukes to protect his regime.

On the contrary.

He knows that his regime is history if we hit them. What he needs to learn is that
once he has a warhead that can reenter the atmosphere we will destroy
him.

He and his regime is safer without Nukes than with Nukes
 
We're going to the bargaining table with NK and we'll have to be steadfast
and deal from a position of strength.
You're delusional, and so is Trump. Those fools don't strengthen anything but Kim's belief that he needs nukes to protect his regime.
Don't you wonder how the republicans will act if all trump can get his the same type deal Obama gave Iran?? Will their asses fall off?? will they remember the bashing trump still gives obama?

You can keep on praying but we won't get a deal like the Iranian Deal.

We will be inspecting their sites. We won't let them inspect their own sites
like the Iran deal allows at Iranian Military bases.

Kim is out of money in October. His people are already starving.
He's gotta do something or risk being overthrown from within.
 
Don't you wonder how the republicans will act if all trump can get his the same type deal Obama gave Iran?? Will their asses fall off?? will they remember the bashing trump still gives obama?
They will all immediately get amnesia.
 
Ah, so in other words, waaahhhhh, I hate Trump. He's a meany pants. I hate him I hate him I hate him!!!
No , he clearly articulated a problem with Trump, in that Trump does not take good advice. That is a problem.
 
High turnover is never good in any job. Just when people get settled in and learn how shit works. Just when your counterparts get used to dealing with you. Just when you get a grip on your bosses expectations. You throw it all away and start anew.

Trump hand picked his cabinet. Now a year later he fires half of them. Indicates to me he wants a bunch of yes men rather than the plethora of opinions he CLAIMS to want.

There is no situation, where a man of trumps supposed caliber & wisdom, can pick a cabinet then a year later discover they were all wrong for the job.

It's crystal clear to me that he is looking for a rubber stamp for his ideas.

OK, so you have nothing but generic. I thought maybe you had a more specific point to make. Picking politicians to fill all jobs and sticking with them through corruption sure hasn't worked. I'm sure open to trying something else. You have no facts or rates to back it up. There is the generic rate he churns faster than Obama, but that's not a meaningful, specific statistic and Obama's staff sure sucked
I've run a business for near 30 years. Trump has done the same even longer. ANY smart business man knows a high turnover rate leads to lower production & morale. It also lends itself to a lot of "learning on the job" which is a slow process.
There will always be a few bad apples that slip through the hiring process but Trump is over 40% turnover in his cabinet. That is ridiculous and could easily be a sign that the problems may very well stem from the oval office rather than all of those people HE HAND PICKED being bad for the job.

And I'm not going to debate this with you any further. I have an objective opinion and you have your head in the clouds.

I agree. I've owned five businesses and spent my career in management and management consulting. Has Trump done that with his business? I find comparing that to the cabinet weak.

You need to be more specific to make a decent case about which specific turnover you find objectionable. He's obviously trying to figure out how to build his cabinet. I'd rather do some churning than stay with bad picks that didn't work.

And still, you've never given any actual statistics other than comparing him to Obama, who was an abject failure
And I didn't compare him to Obama, YOU DID.

FAILSAUCE

Swish.

I'm saying the only stat I've seen is the fake news who compare his turnover to Obama. I didn't say you did that. I'm saying that's the only stat I've seen, and you just confirmed you didn't even provide that one.

What is his overall turnover rate so far? Do you even know? Or you're just going by the fake news headlines?
Here you go: White House Staff Turnover Was Already Record-Setting. Then More Advisers Left

Yes, the turnover rate is not normal.
 
OK, so you have nothing but generic. I thought maybe you had a more specific point to make. Picking politicians to fill all jobs and sticking with them through corruption sure hasn't worked. I'm sure open to trying something else. You have no facts or rates to back it up. There is the generic rate he churns faster than Obama, but that's not a meaningful, specific statistic and Obama's staff sure sucked
I've run a business for near 30 years. Trump has done the same even longer. ANY smart business man knows a high turnover rate leads to lower production & morale. It also lends itself to a lot of "learning on the job" which is a slow process.
There will always be a few bad apples that slip through the hiring process but Trump is over 40% turnover in his cabinet. That is ridiculous and could easily be a sign that the problems may very well stem from the oval office rather than all of those people HE HAND PICKED being bad for the job.

And I'm not going to debate this with you any further. I have an objective opinion and you have your head in the clouds.

I agree. I've owned five businesses and spent my career in management and management consulting. Has Trump done that with his business? I find comparing that to the cabinet weak.

You need to be more specific to make a decent case about which specific turnover you find objectionable. He's obviously trying to figure out how to build his cabinet. I'd rather do some churning than stay with bad picks that didn't work.

And still, you've never given any actual statistics other than comparing him to Obama, who was an abject failure
And I didn't compare him to Obama, YOU DID.

FAILSAUCE

Swish.

I'm saying the only stat I've seen is the fake news who compare his turnover to Obama. I didn't say you did that. I'm saying that's the only stat I've seen, and you just confirmed you didn't even provide that one.

What is his overall turnover rate so far? Do you even know? Or you're just going by the fake news headlines?
Here you go: White House Staff Turnover Was Already Record-Setting. Then More Advisers Left

Yes, the turnover rate is not normal.

Doesn't contradict anything I said
 
I've run a business for near 30 years. Trump has done the same even longer. ANY smart business man knows a high turnover rate leads to lower production & morale. It also lends itself to a lot of "learning on the job" which is a slow process.
There will always be a few bad apples that slip through the hiring process but Trump is over 40% turnover in his cabinet. That is ridiculous and could easily be a sign that the problems may very well stem from the oval office rather than all of those people HE HAND PICKED being bad for the job.

And I'm not going to debate this with you any further. I have an objective opinion and you have your head in the clouds.

I agree. I've owned five businesses and spent my career in management and management consulting. Has Trump done that with his business? I find comparing that to the cabinet weak.

You need to be more specific to make a decent case about which specific turnover you find objectionable. He's obviously trying to figure out how to build his cabinet. I'd rather do some churning than stay with bad picks that didn't work.

And still, you've never given any actual statistics other than comparing him to Obama, who was an abject failure
And I didn't compare him to Obama, YOU DID.

FAILSAUCE

Swish.

I'm saying the only stat I've seen is the fake news who compare his turnover to Obama. I didn't say you did that. I'm saying that's the only stat I've seen, and you just confirmed you didn't even provide that one.

What is his overall turnover rate so far? Do you even know? Or you're just going by the fake news headlines?
Here you go: White House Staff Turnover Was Already Record-Setting. Then More Advisers Left

Yes, the turnover rate is not normal.

Doesn't contradict anything I said
I didn't say it did...you seemed to be having a hard time finding facts on the matter. Strangely, it took me about 2.1 seconds.
 

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