Trump files, jury sees classified files or Trump wins

[Catsnmeters]

Worked for Biden. He hid more classified docs than Trump ever did. For decades. And used them to make $$$$$$$$. You OK with that?

Hur disagrees with you but this thread isn't about Biden. It's about Trump.

Please stay in topic.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Tell that to your party and to Garland

I do not have a party and Garland does not give a crap what I think

 

[d0gbreath]

This is a real win win for Trump. Because the classified documents Trump had were the ones that proved Obama's and Hillary's dirty deeds, toward him and others. So now it's either, close the case or learn the truth.

I find it odd that they don't want to let the jury see the documents, but you have?

 

[eagle1462010]

Hur disagrees with you but this thread isn't about Biden. It's about Trump.

Please stay in topic.

Comey Light says lmao

 

[Harpy Eagle]

A Sampling Of The Reaction To Cannon​

• George Conway: “In the decades that I have been a lawyer, this is the most bizarre order I’ve ever seen issued by a federal judge. What makes that all the more amazing is that the second and third most bizarre orders I’ve ever seen in federal court were also issued by Judge Cannon in this case.”
• Joyce Vance: “t’s two pages of crazy stemming from the Judge’s apparent inability to tell Trump no when it comes to his argument that he turned the nation’s secrets into his personal records by designating them as such under the Presidential Records Act.”
  [*]Much more here …

What New Madness Has Aileen Cannon Visited Upon Us?!

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon has unlocked new achievements in weirdness and incompetence.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Cannon's incompetence and overt bias is disqualifying to continue as the judge in this case.

‘Most bizarre order I’ve ever seen’: Lawyers were absolutely astonished by Mar-a-Lago judge’s latest move, and some are urging Jack Smith to seek ‘extraordinary remedy’​

'Most bizarre order': Lawyers were absolutely astonished by Mar-a-Lago judge's latest move

Unsurprisingly, the reaction to Judge Cannon's order was swift and unequivocal, with some pointing out that she could make an acquittal more likely.

lawandcrime.com

It is not incompetence, it is a well thought out action to delay the trial. if she can get herself removed that will ensure no trial till after the election. That is all that matters to any of these people

 

[Rawley]

I do not have a party

Sure, right. LOL

 

[Orangecat]

Cannon will be replaced.

Everyone gets replaced eventually. Biden will be replaced next January.

 

[Catsnmeters]

Comey Light says lmao

Can you elaborate?

I don't know what Comey light means.

 

[Marener]

You think Hillary’s lawyers told her that it was perfectly legal to ignore subpoenas and destroy the classified material that the subpoenas called for?

I doubt it, but even if they did, both Clintons were lawyers until they got disbarred and were expected to know better.

There's a distinct lack of evidence to support your allegations against Clinton.

 

[Marener]

It was in the OP. Please try and keep up

You misrepresented the order. The language quoted is a proposed framework, not a judgement. The alternative framework assumes that the government can prove that the documents are presidential records:

In a prosecution of a former president for allegedly retaining documents in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 793(e), a jury is permitted to examine a record retained by a former president in his/her personal possession at the end of his/her presidency and make a factual finding as to whether the government has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it is personal or presidential using the definitions set forth in the Presidential Records Act (PRA)

 

[Billiejeens]

This is a real win win for Trump. Because the classified documents Trump had were the ones that proved Obama's and Hillary's dirty deeds, toward him and others. So now it's either, close the case or learn the truth.

The Democrats never expected to win.
It simply election interference.

 

[Marener]

What did I say was on them?

It was your characterization of them:

It will show that the so called classified files don't amount to a hill of beans regarding classified info.

The best they have against Trump is Iran invasion plans that were never going to happen anyway. They were figments of a general's imagination.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Why do you think the jury needs to see the documents?

I don’t think there need be a trial in the first place. Even if the prosecution is 100% right, Good God Y’all! Ain’t they no murderers and rapists they could focus on?

If there is to be a trial, then the defense has an obligation to present all potentially exculpatory information to the jury.

If the prosecution doesn’t want to show the jury any classified documents it should not mention any classified documents.

 

[Billiejeens]

Trump has claimed that he declassified all the documents he took.

Correct

 

[elektra]

I agree considering none of the indictments are effected by classification status...except the espionage act one but that is a separate animal.


Not after he was replaced by Biden.

yes he is, Trump can even receive classified intelligence reports

 

[Zincwarrior]

Trump voluntarily handed over 15 boxes of docs and six weeks later Garland/Biden empaneled a Grand Jury to indict him

Deal with it

Because he hid other boxes and documents in his office etc.
Read the indictment.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Your spin does not matter to me.

I personally think the country would be better served if they knew before time if the man they might vote for was found guilty or not.

Why? Whose mind would be changed by a verdict either way?

On a side note, if he does not win the election, how long to you think it will be before Trump leaves the country?

Trump will rot in a cell before he leaves the country. But I doubt that a judge will lock him up.

I’ll wager a year off the board on the not leaving part - other than for a vacation or to meet with other heads of state.

You Game?

 

[Rawley]

Because he hid other boxes and documents in his office etc.

Did he?

Read the indictment.

I have. Allegations by a Trump hating partisan. Can't be taken seriously even with a pound of salt.

 

[Independent thinker]

It was your characterization of them:

and what was wrong with those?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Did he?


I have. Allegations by a Trump hating partisan. Can't be taken seriously even with a pound of salt.

No you didn't else you would have for the above.