Trump flip flops on waterboarding. Add another lie to the list

[Lastamender]

Waterboarding is not torture. It's about like going through a football or fraternity initiation.

Trump promises much worse than water boarding...torture?

See the thing with bootlickers is they like the taste of the boot itself and not the brand. The Human Being was for waterboarding and against it depending on what side Trump is on.

This one's for you, Rdean. Nate, Jim, Lakota, Jake Starkey, and all you other LOSERS out there.

 

[Iceweasel]

This thread is a perfect illustration of why you should never assume that accommodating the desires of democrats will please them and they will stop hating you. They don't really mean what they complain about, because if they did, they would be happy when Trump listens to an expert and changes a stance to one they support instead of dogmatically adhering to a previous position they supposedly hated. Note that not only are they are not happy, but In fact are complaining that he's changing positions.

The only logical conclusion to draw from this behavior is that democrats value only one thing, partisanship. Thus, when a Republican says something they don't like, he's a homophobe, a bigot, a racist, a misogynist, wears white after Labor Day, eats puppies and doesn't listen to advice. But when he modifies that statement based on input from an expert, he's now a liar too.

It must be very depressing being a democrat. Maybe, though, they're just not accustomed to their leaders ever modifying positions and don't know how to handle it. I mean, Obama hasn't changed a single position in all the years he's been president. Oh, wait, he DID change on one thing. He used to be opposed to gay marriage. I don't recall any democrats saying he lied when he flipped on that one, so obviously they don't care about changing positions and are just ranting uselessly about Trump. Heck, Hillary even flipflopped on that issue and they didn't say she was lying.

Oh, well, they're never going to have anything but irrational hatred for you, so you just have to beat them.

Or it could be people were right in saying Trump had no fucking clue as to the fucked up shit he was saying.

Well, I'm still waiting for someone to quote where he says there will be no waterboarding. I wouldn't think the quote would be flying around the net by now.

Seems like it's the left saying the fucked up shit.

 

[the_human_being]

Trump is a much better fiddle player than is Charlie Daniels. He owns the media. He owns the internet. He was given over one billion dollars in free press coverage throughout his campaign and he is still feeding the media sharks in their feeding frenzy. You Liberal loons run under a log eberytime he opens his mouth. He is playing you for the fools you really are. If he doesn't floss his teeth he knows you and the media will sceam for his head. He has reduced Obama and Hillary to almost zero news coverage while he fills every available spot.

Do you fools not realize why he hasn't announced all his Cabinet positions? He releases one or two names daily so he can play the media and you idiots for all you're worh. The man is a genius.

 

[easyt65]

I for one enjoy seeing you have to agree with ME on issues in order to remain a loyal Trumptard.

I haven't really agreed with you much at all yet. You are choosing to see / predict things through your usual Liberal hate-colored glasses, and I have disagreed with you on most of it.

So NYC, is it flip-flopping when all people change their minds or only non-liberals?

Isn't him changing his mind about torture a good thing?

If it is, why you so mad, brau?

 

[deltex1]

It was not that difficulty. You voted for Trump based on...

Therein lies the problem, Snowflake - you have no idea WHO I voted for or WHY.

Liberals such as yourself REPEATEDLY demonstrate how you love to try to speak FOR other people even though you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

You love to declare people / Trump believes this or that, that he will or won't do that....when - again - you don't know what the hell you're talking about!

You continue to try to tell the rest of us what WILL happen....when you are the same people who told us for months Hillary was going to kick Trump's ass in the election...and in the end you were PROVEN not to know what the hell you were talking about.

So NOW every time you declare 'this' or declare 'that' you have NO CREDIBILITY.

Hillary LOST.
You Libs were WRONG.
You're ANGRY.
You're BITTER.
You have HATE oozing out of your eyes.

I get it. Obviously you Snowflakes haven't 'gotten it' yet. Trump is your new President.

It has not even been two weeks & the Trump supporters are already abandoning ship & claiming they did not vote for the oreange bigoted conman.

I know Clinton did not win.

I promise that I will post here as much as possible to point out what a group of ignorant people voted for Trump & laugh at you every time he backs away from a campaign promise.

And yes, pollsters & pundits underestimated the number of really stupid people there are in this country that vote. You know that is true when the largest demographic supporting your candidate is uneducated people.

Look forward to shifting down your throat, Dave.

 

[easyt65]

Seems like it's the left saying the fucked up shit.

....like, "Hillary's going to kick Trump's ass in the election"?!

 

[Iceweasel]

It was not that difficulty. You voted for Trump based on...

Therein lies the problem, Snowflake - you have no idea WHO I voted for or WHY.

Liberals such as yourself REPEATEDLY demonstrate how you love to try to speak FOR other people even though you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

You love to declare people / Trump believes this or that, that he will or won't do that....when - again - you don't know what the hell you're talking about!

You continue to try to tell the rest of us what WILL happen....when you are the same people who told us for months Hillary was going to kick Trump's ass in the election...and in the end you were PROVEN not to know what the hell you were talking about.

So NOW every time you declare 'this' or declare 'that' you have NO CREDIBILITY.

Hillary LOST.
You Libs were WRONG.
You're ANGRY.
You're BITTER.
You have HATE oozing out of your eyes.

I get it. Obviously you Snowflakes haven't 'gotten it' yet. Trump is your new President.

It has not even been two weeks & the Trump supporters are already abandoning ship & claiming they did not vote for the oreange bigoted conman.

I know Clinton did not win.

I promise that I will post here as much as possible to point out what a group of ignorant people voted for Trump & laugh at you every time he backs away from a campaign promise.

And yes, pollsters & pundits underestimated the number of really stupid people there are in this country that vote. You know that is true when the largest demographic supporting your candidate is uneducated people.

Your ass is still burning. And I love it. THAT is why I voted for Trump, since you refuse to ask. I missed the libtards foaming and hyperventilating in the streets, the childish effigies, the brain dead chants. On and on. Now I have it, thank God. And Trump.

You think you're threatening people but can't see how stupid it looks. That's why you're a liberal, you create the reality you want and think it's real.

 

[easyt65]

And yes, pollsters & pundits underestimated the number of really stupid people there are in this country that vote. You know that is true when the largest demographic supporting your candidate is uneducated people.

Socialist Bernie Sanders declared he was EMBARASSED for the Democratic party because Liberals had LOST the hard working middle class because they had focused on the Social Program addicted / dependent, the Illegals, the 'Refugees', the all-in propaganda media, those who supported protecting elitist millionaire crooks and who embraced a perverted corrupt justice system.

I will side with the Constitution / Rule of Law defending / protecting, hard-working, tax paying 'uneducated' middle class in this country over the herd of criminal, illegal, moochers, self-/party-serving elitists Socialists... who lost...any day.

 

[NightFox]

And yes, pollsters & pundits underestimated the number of really stupid people there are in this country that vote. You know that is true when the largest demographic supporting your candidate is uneducated people.

LOL and thus the mystery as to why the Democrats got their asses kicked is solved.

A clue for the clueless; telling non-college grads that they're "really stupid people" (or "deplorables" or whatever the insult du jour happens to be with you geniuses) is not a formulae for convincing them to vote for you, in fact it has the opposite effect.

Hubris proceeds Nemesis

 

[RealDave]

And yes, pollsters & pundits underestimated the number of really stupid people there are in this country that vote. You know that is true when the largest demographic supporting your candidate is uneducated people.

Socialist Bernie Sanders declared he was EMBARASSED for the Democratic party because Liberals had LOST the hard working middle class because they had focused on the Social Program addicted / dependent, the Illegals, the 'Refugees', the all-in propaganda media, those who supported protecting elitist millionaire crooks and who embraced a perverted corrupt justice system.

I will side with the Constitution / Rule of Law defending / protecting, hard-working, tax paying 'uneducated' middle class in this country over the herd of criminal, illegal, moochers, self-/party-serving elitists Socialists... who lost...any day.

Funny chit that you think Donald J Trump really gives a shit about working middle class people.

A man that buys most of his stuff from overseas & refuses to pay his contractors. What has he ever done for them? He even imports labor to work in his hotels. He might not even pay any taxes.

He is looking into a visa program to bring in workers. So, when you lose your pathetic job to an immigrant with a work visa, is it different than losing your job to an illegal immigrant?

 

[RealDave]

And yes, pollsters & pundits underestimated the number of really stupid people there are in this country that vote. You know that is true when the largest demographic supporting your candidate is uneducated people.

LOL and thus the mystery as to why the Democrats got their asses kicked is solved.

A clue for the clueless; telling non-college grads that they're "really stupid people" (or "deplorables" or whatever the insult du jour happens to be with you geniuses) is not a formulae for convincing them to vote for you, in fact it has the opposite effect.

Hubris proceeds Nemesis

BTW, Do you think racists, bigots are deplorable?

 

[RealDave]

It was not that difficulty. You voted for Trump based on...

Therein lies the problem, Snowflake - you have no idea WHO I voted for or WHY.

Liberals such as yourself REPEATEDLY demonstrate how you love to try to speak FOR other people even though you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

You love to declare people / Trump believes this or that, that he will or won't do that....when - again - you don't know what the hell you're talking about!

You continue to try to tell the rest of us what WILL happen....when you are the same people who told us for months Hillary was going to kick Trump's ass in the election...and in the end you were PROVEN not to know what the hell you were talking about.

So NOW every time you declare 'this' or declare 'that' you have NO CREDIBILITY.

Hillary LOST.
You Libs were WRONG.
You're ANGRY.
You're BITTER.
You have HATE oozing out of your eyes.

I get it. Obviously you Snowflakes haven't 'gotten it' yet. Trump is your new President.

It has not even been two weeks & the Trump supporters are already abandoning ship & claiming they did not vote for the oreange bigoted conman.

I know Clinton did not win.

I promise that I will post here as much as possible to point out what a group of ignorant people voted for Trump & laugh at you every time he backs away from a campaign promise.

And yes, pollsters & pundits underestimated the number of really stupid people there are in this country that vote. You know that is true when the largest demographic supporting your candidate is uneducated people.

Your ass is still burning. And I love it. THAT is why I voted for Trump, since you refuse to ask. I missed the libtards foaming and hyperventilating in the streets, the childish effigies, the brain dead chants. On and on. Now I have it, thank God. And Trump.

You think you're threatening people but can't see how stupid it looks. That's why you're a liberal, you create the reality you want and think it's real.

I knew you voted for Trump. Why did you deny it earlier? I did not threaten anyone. When do you think wall construction will start?

 

[WaitingFor2020]

WASHINGTON, Nov 23 — US president-elect Donald Trump said today that advice from a Marine general renowned for his frank talk had convinced him to think again about authorising the torture of detainees.

The Republican tycoon had previously made bloodcurdling pledges to restore waterboarding and “far, far worse” in US detention centres, scorning President Barack Obama’s ban on the practice.

But last weekend Trump sat down with James Mattis, a retired general respected across Washington and the US military for his no-nonsense approach, to discuss naming him defence secretary.

Yesterday, in an interview with the New York Times, Trump said he’d been surprised to discover that such an uncompromising commander was opposed to allowing US personnel to torture suspects.

“He said: ‘I’ve never found it to be useful’,” he said, adding that Mattis advised building a rapport with detainees: “Give me a pack of cigarettes and a couple of beers and I’ll do better.”

“I was very impressed by that answer,” Trump told the Times, in a marked U-turn from his campaign mantra: “Torture works, OK? Believe me, it works.”

- See more at: Tough general convinces Trump to backtrack on torture

Looks like you Trumpbots finally got John McCain elected. lol

I was jusssst logging on here to see if someone had started the list.
Maybe I'll edit this from Politico and make it my sig line:


***15 Flip Flops in 15 Days
15 Trump Flip-Flops in 15 Days
On his predecessor:
“I think president Obama has been the most ignorant president in our history…President Obama when he became president, he didn't know anything. This guy didn’t know a thing. And honestly, today he knows less. Today, he knows less. He has done a terrible job.” (Press conference in Florida, July 27, 2016)

“I have great respect…I very much look forward to dealing with the President in the future, including counsel. He explained some of the difficulties, some of the high-flying assets and some of the really great things that have been achieved.” (White House, November 10, 2016)


On anti-Trump protesters:
“Just had a very open and successful presidential election. Now professional protesters, incited by the media, are protesting. Very unfair!” (Twitter, November 10, 2016, 9:19pm ET)

“Love the fact that the small groups of protesters last night have passion for our great country. We will all come together and be proud!” (Twitter, November 11, 2016, 6:14am ET)

On Obamacare:
“It’s gotta go.” (CNN, July 30, 2015)

“I like those [the prohibition against insurers denying coverage because of patients’ existing conditions and a provision that allows parents to provide years of additional coverage for children on their insurance policies] very much.” (Wall Street Journal, November 11, 2016)

On the border wall:
“Jeb Bush just talked about my border proposal to build a "fence." It's not a fence, Jeb, it's a WALL, and there's a BIG difference!” (Twitter, August 25, 2015)

“There could be some fencing.” (60 Minutes, November 13, 2016)

On gay marriage:
“If I’m elected, I would be very strong on putting certain judges on the bench that I think maybe could change things…I don’t like the way they ruled…I would strongly consider [trying to appoint justices to overrule the decision on same-sex marriage].” (Fox News Sunday, January 31, 2016)

“It’s irrelevant because it was already settled. It’s law. It was settled in the Supreme Court. I mean it’s done…And I’m fine with that.” (60 Minutes, November 13, 2016)

On locking her up:
“If I win, I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation. There has never been so many lies, so much exception. There has never been anything like it. We will have a special prosecutor. I go out and speak and the people of this country are furious. The long time workers at the FBI are furious. There has never been anything like this with emails. You get a subpoena and after getting the subpoena you delete 33,000 emails and acid wash them or bleach them. An expensive process. We will get a special prosecutor and look into it. You know what, people have been—their lives have been destroyed for doing one-fifth of what you have done. You should be ashamed.” (Second Presidential Debate, October 9, 2016)

“I don’t want to hurt the Clintons, I really don’t…It’s just not something that I feel very strongly about.” (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

On deporting illegal immigrants:
“We have at least 11 million people in this country that came in illegally. They will go out.” (CNN-Republican Debate, February 25, 2016)

“What we are going to do is get the people that are criminal and have criminal records, gang members, drug dealers, we have a lot of these people, probably two million, it could be even three million, we are getting them out of our country or we are going to incarcerate.” (60 Minutes, November 13, 2016)

On the generals:
“Well the generals under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have not been very successful.” (Commander-in-Chief Forum, September 7, 2016)

“We have some great generals. We have great generals.” (60 Minutes, November 13, 2016)

"Well, I’ll be honest with you, I probably do [know more about ISIS than the generals do] because look at the job they’ve done. Okay? Look at the job they’ve done. They haven’t done the job.” (60 Minutes, less than a minute later)

On nuclear Japan:
“Well I think maybe it’s not so bad to have Japan — if Japan had that nuclear threat, I’m not sure that would be a bad thing for us.” (New York Times, March 26, 2016)

“The @nytimes states today that DJT believes "more countries should acquire nuclear weapons." How dishonest are they. I never said this!” (Twitter, November 13, 2016)

On the Electoral College:
“The electoral college is a disaster for democracy.” (Twitter, November 06, 2012)

“The Electoral College is actually genius in that it brings all states, including the smaller ones, into play. Campaigning is much different!” (Twitter, November 15, 2016)

“I'd rather do the popular vote.” Says he was "never a fan of the electoral college." (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

On the Trump University lawsuit:
“Trump University has a 98% approval rating. I could have settled but won't out of principle!” (Twitter, February 29, 2016)

“I don't settle cases…I won’t settle because it’s an easy case to win in court.” (Morning Joe, March 3, 2016)

“I settled the Trump University lawsuit for a small fraction of the potential award because as President I have to focus on our country” (Twitter, November 19, 2016)

On man-made climate change:
“I am not a great believer in man-made climate change.” (Washington Post, March 21, 2016)

“I think there is some connectivity. Some, something.” (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

• 

On the Paris climate agreement:
“We’re going to cancel the Paris Climate Agreement” (Policy address in North Dakota, May 26, 2016)

“I have an open mind to it." (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

On torture:
“Torture works. OK, folks? You know, I have these guys—‘Torture doesn’t work!’—believe me, it works. And waterboarding is your minor form. Some people say it’s not actually torture. Let’s assume it is. But they asked me the question: What do you think of waterboarding? Absolutely fine. But we should go much stronger than waterboarding.” (South Carolina, February 17, 2016)

“[Mattis] said, ‘I’ve never found it to be useful…Give me a pack of cigarettes and a couple of beers and I’ll do better.’…I was very impressed by that answer… [Torture is] not going to make the kind of a difference that a lot of people are thinking.’’ (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

On the New York Times:
"Wow, the @nytimes is losing thousands of subscribers because of their very poor and highly inaccurate coverage of the 'Trump phenomena.'" (Twitter, November 13, 2016)

“I have great respect for the New York Times. I have tremendous respect…The New York Times is a world jewel. And I hope we can all get along." (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

 

[Vandalshandle]

Hell, if I had known that he was to the Left of Clinton, I might have voted for him!

 

[NYcarbineer]

WASHINGTON, Nov 23 — US president-elect Donald Trump said today that advice from a Marine general renowned for his frank talk had convinced him to think again about authorising the torture of detainees.

The Republican tycoon had previously made bloodcurdling pledges to restore waterboarding and “far, far worse” in US detention centres, scorning President Barack Obama’s ban on the practice.

But last weekend Trump sat down with James Mattis, a retired general respected across Washington and the US military for his no-nonsense approach, to discuss naming him defence secretary.

Yesterday, in an interview with the New York Times, Trump said he’d been surprised to discover that such an uncompromising commander was opposed to allowing US personnel to torture suspects.

“He said: ‘I’ve never found it to be useful’,” he said, adding that Mattis advised building a rapport with detainees: “Give me a pack of cigarettes and a couple of beers and I’ll do better.”

“I was very impressed by that answer,” Trump told the Times, in a marked U-turn from his campaign mantra: “Torture works, OK? Believe me, it works.”

- See more at: Tough general convinces Trump to backtrack on torture

Looks like you Trumpbots finally got John McCain elected. lol

I was jusssst logging on here to see if someone had started the list.
Maybe I'll edit this from Politico and make it my sig line:


***15 Flip Flops in 15 Days
15 Trump Flip-Flops in 15 Days
On his predecessor:
“I think president Obama has been the most ignorant president in our history…President Obama when he became president, he didn't know anything. This guy didn’t know a thing. And honestly, today he knows less. Today, he knows less. He has done a terrible job.” (Press conference in Florida, July 27, 2016)

“I have great respect…I very much look forward to dealing with the President in the future, including counsel. He explained some of the difficulties, some of the high-flying assets and some of the really great things that have been achieved.” (White House, November 10, 2016)


On anti-Trump protesters:
“Just had a very open and successful presidential election. Now professional protesters, incited by the media, are protesting. Very unfair!” (Twitter, November 10, 2016, 9:19pm ET)

“Love the fact that the small groups of protesters last night have passion for our great country. We will all come together and be proud!” (Twitter, November 11, 2016, 6:14am ET)

On Obamacare:
“It’s gotta go.” (CNN, July 30, 2015)

“I like those [the prohibition against insurers denying coverage because of patients’ existing conditions and a provision that allows parents to provide years of additional coverage for children on their insurance policies] very much.” (Wall Street Journal, November 11, 2016)

On the border wall:
“Jeb Bush just talked about my border proposal to build a "fence." It's not a fence, Jeb, it's a WALL, and there's a BIG difference!” (Twitter, August 25, 2015)

“There could be some fencing.” (60 Minutes, November 13, 2016)

On gay marriage:
“If I’m elected, I would be very strong on putting certain judges on the bench that I think maybe could change things…I don’t like the way they ruled…I would strongly consider [trying to appoint justices to overrule the decision on same-sex marriage].” (Fox News Sunday, January 31, 2016)

“It’s irrelevant because it was already settled. It’s law. It was settled in the Supreme Court. I mean it’s done…And I’m fine with that.” (60 Minutes, November 13, 2016)

On locking her up:
“If I win, I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation. There has never been so many lies, so much exception. There has never been anything like it. We will have a special prosecutor. I go out and speak and the people of this country are furious. The long time workers at the FBI are furious. There has never been anything like this with emails. You get a subpoena and after getting the subpoena you delete 33,000 emails and acid wash them or bleach them. An expensive process. We will get a special prosecutor and look into it. You know what, people have been—their lives have been destroyed for doing one-fifth of what you have done. You should be ashamed.” (Second Presidential Debate, October 9, 2016)

“I don’t want to hurt the Clintons, I really don’t…It’s just not something that I feel very strongly about.” (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

On deporting illegal immigrants:
“We have at least 11 million people in this country that came in illegally. They will go out.” (CNN-Republican Debate, February 25, 2016)

“What we are going to do is get the people that are criminal and have criminal records, gang members, drug dealers, we have a lot of these people, probably two million, it could be even three million, we are getting them out of our country or we are going to incarcerate.” (60 Minutes, November 13, 2016)

On the generals:
“Well the generals under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have not been very successful.” (Commander-in-Chief Forum, September 7, 2016)

“We have some great generals. We have great generals.” (60 Minutes, November 13, 2016)

"Well, I’ll be honest with you, I probably do [know more about ISIS than the generals do] because look at the job they’ve done. Okay? Look at the job they’ve done. They haven’t done the job.” (60 Minutes, less than a minute later)

On nuclear Japan:
“Well I think maybe it’s not so bad to have Japan — if Japan had that nuclear threat, I’m not sure that would be a bad thing for us.” (New York Times, March 26, 2016)

“The @nytimes states today that DJT believes "more countries should acquire nuclear weapons." How dishonest are they. I never said this!” (Twitter, November 13, 2016)

On the Electoral College:
“The electoral college is a disaster for democracy.” (Twitter, November 06, 2012)

“The Electoral College is actually genius in that it brings all states, including the smaller ones, into play. Campaigning is much different!” (Twitter, November 15, 2016)

“I'd rather do the popular vote.” Says he was "never a fan of the electoral college." (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

On the Trump University lawsuit:
“Trump University has a 98% approval rating. I could have settled but won't out of principle!” (Twitter, February 29, 2016)

“I don't settle cases…I won’t settle because it’s an easy case to win in court.” (Morning Joe, March 3, 2016)

“I settled the Trump University lawsuit for a small fraction of the potential award because as President I have to focus on our country” (Twitter, November 19, 2016)

On man-made climate change:
“I am not a great believer in man-made climate change.” (Washington Post, March 21, 2016)

“I think there is some connectivity. Some, something.” (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

• 

On the Paris climate agreement:
“We’re going to cancel the Paris Climate Agreement” (Policy address in North Dakota, May 26, 2016)

“I have an open mind to it." (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

On torture:
“Torture works. OK, folks? You know, I have these guys—‘Torture doesn’t work!’—believe me, it works. And waterboarding is your minor form. Some people say it’s not actually torture. Let’s assume it is. But they asked me the question: What do you think of waterboarding? Absolutely fine. But we should go much stronger than waterboarding.” (South Carolina, February 17, 2016)

“[Mattis] said, ‘I’ve never found it to be useful…Give me a pack of cigarettes and a couple of beers and I’ll do better.’…I was very impressed by that answer… [Torture is] not going to make the kind of a difference that a lot of people are thinking.’’ (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

On the New York Times:
"Wow, the @nytimes is losing thousands of subscribers because of their very poor and highly inaccurate coverage of the 'Trump phenomena.'" (Twitter, November 13, 2016)

“I have great respect for the New York Times. I have tremendous respect…The New York Times is a world jewel. And I hope we can all get along." (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

Trump is a much better fiddle player than is Charlie Daniels. He owns the media. He owns the internet. He was given over one billion dollars in free press coverage throughout his campaign and he is still feeding the media sharks in their feeding frenzy. You Liberal loons run under a log eberytime he opens his mouth. He is playing you for the fools you really are. If he doesn't floss his teeth he knows you and the media will sceam for his head. He has reduced Obama and Hillary to almost zero news coverage while he fills every available spot.

Do you fools not realize why he hasn't announced all his Cabinet positions? He releases one or two names daily so he can play the media and you idiots for all you're worh. The man is a genius.

The above is exactly how the deadender circle the wagons diehard Trump cult members are going to sound for the next four years.

Get used to it. Better yet, get used to ignoring it.

 

[hadit]

This thread is a perfect illustration of why you should never assume that accommodating the desires of democrats will please them and they will stop hating you. They don't really mean what they complain about, because if they did, they would be happy when Trump listens to an expert and changes a stance to one they support instead of dogmatically adhering to a previous position they supposedly hated. Note that not only are they are not happy, but In fact are complaining that he's changing positions.

The only logical conclusion to draw from this behavior is that democrats value only one thing, partisanship. Thus, when a Republican says something they don't like, he's a homophobe, a bigot, a racist, a misogynist, wears white after Labor Day, eats puppies and doesn't listen to advice. But when he modifies that statement based on input from an expert, he's now a liar too.

It must be very depressing being a democrat. Maybe, though, they're just not accustomed to their leaders ever modifying positions and don't know how to handle it. I mean, Obama hasn't changed a single position in all the years he's been president. Oh, wait, he DID change on one thing. He used to be opposed to gay marriage. I don't recall any democrats saying he lied when he flipped on that one, so obviously they don't care about changing positions and are just ranting uselessly about Trump. Heck, Hillary even flipflopped on that issue and they didn't say she was lying.

Oh, well, they're never going to have anything but irrational hatred for you, so you just have to beat them.

Or it could be people were right in saying Trump had no fucking clue as to the fucked up shit he was saying.

So why do democrats get so mad when Trump says stuff they say they want?

 

[hadit]

Hell, if I had known that he was to the Left of Clinton, I might have voted for him!

We tried to tell you he wasn't conservative, but the talking points were out and it was just easier for the haters to think he was.

 

[NightFox]

And yes, pollsters & pundits underestimated the number of really stupid people there are in this country that vote. You know that is true when the largest demographic supporting your candidate is uneducated people.

LOL and thus the mystery as to why the Democrats got their asses kicked is solved.

A clue for the clueless; telling non-college grads that they're "really stupid people" (or "deplorables" or whatever the insult du jour happens to be with you geniuses) is not a formulae for convincing them to vote for you, in fact it has the opposite effect.

Hubris proceeds Nemesis

BTW, Do you think racists, bigots are deplorable?

Er..umm... human beings are generally not defined by a single character attribute... for example, the fact that you exhibit all the signs of being a brain-washed, partisan lemming doesn't mean that you're "deplorable".

An educated, intelligent person would have asked the question like this; "Do you think racism and bigotry are deplorable?"

Here endth the lesson.

 

[jc456]

It was not that difficulty. You voted for Trump based on...

Therein lies the problem, Snowflake - you have no idea WHO I voted for or WHY.

Liberals such as yourself REPEATEDLY demonstrate how you love to try to speak FOR other people even though you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

You love to declare people / Trump believes this or that, that he will or won't do that....when - again - you don't know what the hell you're talking about!

You continue to try to tell the rest of us what WILL happen....when you are the same people who told us for months Hillary was going to kick Trump's ass in the election...and in the end you were PROVEN not to know what the hell you were talking about.

So NOW every time you declare 'this' or declare 'that' you have NO CREDIBILITY.

Hillary LOST.
You Libs were WRONG.
You're ANGRY.
You're BITTER.
You have HATE oozing out of your eyes.

I get it. Obviously you Snowflakes haven't 'gotten it' yet. Trump is your new President.

It has not even been two weeks & the Trump supporters are already abandoning ship & claiming they did not vote for the oreange bigoted conman.

I know Clinton did not win.

I promise that I will post here as much as possible to point out what a group of ignorant people voted for Trump & laugh at you every time he backs away from a campaign promise.

And yes, pollsters & pundits underestimated the number of really stupid people there are in this country that vote. You know that is true when the largest demographic supporting your candidate is uneducated people.

 

[deltex1]

WASHINGTON, Nov 23 — US president-elect Donald Trump said today that advice from a Marine general renowned for his frank talk had convinced him to think again about authorising the torture of detainees.

The Republican tycoon had previously made bloodcurdling pledges to restore waterboarding and “far, far worse” in US detention centres, scorning President Barack Obama’s ban on the practice.

But last weekend Trump sat down with James Mattis, a retired general respected across Washington and the US military for his no-nonsense approach, to discuss naming him defence secretary.

Yesterday, in an interview with the New York Times, Trump said he’d been surprised to discover that such an uncompromising commander was opposed to allowing US personnel to torture suspects.

“He said: ‘I’ve never found it to be useful’,” he said, adding that Mattis advised building a rapport with detainees: “Give me a pack of cigarettes and a couple of beers and I’ll do better.”

“I was very impressed by that answer,” Trump told the Times, in a marked U-turn from his campaign mantra: “Torture works, OK? Believe me, it works.”

- See more at: Tough general convinces Trump to backtrack on torture

Looks like you Trumpbots finally got John McCain elected. lol

I was jusssst logging on here to see if someone had started the list.
Maybe I'll edit this from Politico and make it my sig line:


***15 Flip Flops in 15 Days
15 Trump Flip-Flops in 15 Days
On his predecessor:
“I think president Obama has been the most ignorant president in our history…President Obama when he became president, he didn't know anything. This guy didn’t know a thing. And honestly, today he knows less. Today, he knows less. He has done a terrible job.” (Press conference in Florida, July 27, 2016)

“I have great respect…I very much look forward to dealing with the President in the future, including counsel. He explained some of the difficulties, some of the high-flying assets and some of the really great things that have been achieved.” (White House, November 10, 2016)


On anti-Trump protesters:
“Just had a very open and successful presidential election. Now professional protesters, incited by the media, are protesting. Very unfair!” (Twitter, November 10, 2016, 9:19pm ET)

“Love the fact that the small groups of protesters last night have passion for our great country. We will all come together and be proud!” (Twitter, November 11, 2016, 6:14am ET)

On Obamacare:
“It’s gotta go.” (CNN, July 30, 2015)

“I like those [the prohibition against insurers denying coverage because of patients’ existing conditions and a provision that allows parents to provide years of additional coverage for children on their insurance policies] very much.” (Wall Street Journal, November 11, 2016)

On the border wall:
“Jeb Bush just talked about my border proposal to build a "fence." It's not a fence, Jeb, it's a WALL, and there's a BIG difference!” (Twitter, August 25, 2015)

“There could be some fencing.” (60 Minutes, November 13, 2016)

On gay marriage:
“If I’m elected, I would be very strong on putting certain judges on the bench that I think maybe could change things…I don’t like the way they ruled…I would strongly consider [trying to appoint justices to overrule the decision on same-sex marriage].” (Fox News Sunday, January 31, 2016)

“It’s irrelevant because it was already settled. It’s law. It was settled in the Supreme Court. I mean it’s done…And I’m fine with that.” (60 Minutes, November 13, 2016)

On locking her up:
“If I win, I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation. There has never been so many lies, so much exception. There has never been anything like it. We will have a special prosecutor. I go out and speak and the people of this country are furious. The long time workers at the FBI are furious. There has never been anything like this with emails. You get a subpoena and after getting the subpoena you delete 33,000 emails and acid wash them or bleach them. An expensive process. We will get a special prosecutor and look into it. You know what, people have been—their lives have been destroyed for doing one-fifth of what you have done. You should be ashamed.” (Second Presidential Debate, October 9, 2016)

“I don’t want to hurt the Clintons, I really don’t…It’s just not something that I feel very strongly about.” (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

On deporting illegal immigrants:
“We have at least 11 million people in this country that came in illegally. They will go out.” (CNN-Republican Debate, February 25, 2016)

“What we are going to do is get the people that are criminal and have criminal records, gang members, drug dealers, we have a lot of these people, probably two million, it could be even three million, we are getting them out of our country or we are going to incarcerate.” (60 Minutes, November 13, 2016)

On the generals:
“Well the generals under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have not been very successful.” (Commander-in-Chief Forum, September 7, 2016)

“We have some great generals. We have great generals.” (60 Minutes, November 13, 2016)

"Well, I’ll be honest with you, I probably do [know more about ISIS than the generals do] because look at the job they’ve done. Okay? Look at the job they’ve done. They haven’t done the job.” (60 Minutes, less than a minute later)

On nuclear Japan:
“Well I think maybe it’s not so bad to have Japan — if Japan had that nuclear threat, I’m not sure that would be a bad thing for us.” (New York Times, March 26, 2016)

“The @nytimes states today that DJT believes "more countries should acquire nuclear weapons." How dishonest are they. I never said this!” (Twitter, November 13, 2016)

On the Electoral College:
“The electoral college is a disaster for democracy.” (Twitter, November 06, 2012)

“The Electoral College is actually genius in that it brings all states, including the smaller ones, into play. Campaigning is much different!” (Twitter, November 15, 2016)

“I'd rather do the popular vote.” Says he was "never a fan of the electoral college." (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

On the Trump University lawsuit:
“Trump University has a 98% approval rating. I could have settled but won't out of principle!” (Twitter, February 29, 2016)

“I don't settle cases…I won’t settle because it’s an easy case to win in court.” (Morning Joe, March 3, 2016)

“I settled the Trump University lawsuit for a small fraction of the potential award because as President I have to focus on our country” (Twitter, November 19, 2016)

On man-made climate change:
“I am not a great believer in man-made climate change.” (Washington Post, March 21, 2016)

“I think there is some connectivity. Some, something.” (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

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On the Paris climate agreement:
“We’re going to cancel the Paris Climate Agreement” (Policy address in North Dakota, May 26, 2016)

“I have an open mind to it." (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

On torture:
“Torture works. OK, folks? You know, I have these guys—‘Torture doesn’t work!’—believe me, it works. And waterboarding is your minor form. Some people say it’s not actually torture. Let’s assume it is. But they asked me the question: What do you think of waterboarding? Absolutely fine. But we should go much stronger than waterboarding.” (South Carolina, February 17, 2016)

“[Mattis] said, ‘I’ve never found it to be useful…Give me a pack of cigarettes and a couple of beers and I’ll do better.’…I was very impressed by that answer… [Torture is] not going to make the kind of a difference that a lot of people are thinking.’’ (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

On the New York Times:
"Wow, the @nytimes is losing thousands of subscribers because of their very poor and highly inaccurate coverage of the 'Trump phenomena.'" (Twitter, November 13, 2016)

“I have great respect for the New York Times. I have tremendous respect…The New York Times is a world jewel. And I hope we can all get along." (New York Times, November 22, 2016)

We will know what Trump does after he is sworn in. All this whining about what he says is useless. We know what Obama has done for America...nothing. Look at the record.