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Well you're a damned liar. You said both parties like lower wages. I disagreed because Republicans like to make sure wages are held in check while Democrats are busy raising the cost of living. Lowering taxes takes money away from government and puts it in your pocket. That's what Democrats hate more than anything.I didn't agree with you.You said both parties love lower wages.....the fact is....Democrats constantly bitch about low wages and Republicans believe in lower taxes which helps businesses create more jobs and individuals afford a better life.Clearly you have a problem with the English language.Bullshit!!!Democrats love chain migration. It's how they took over California, Oregon, Washington, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, New York, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and are currently trying to take over Texas.Military has received way too much $$$Yes they did...they wouldn't release the funds.You probably didn't look very hard.I couldn't find this anywhere. Got a link?Congress declared that some materials couldn't be used in building the wall.300 miles of replacement fencing. All the fencing fraudulently being called a "Wall" was originally built by Bush and Obama and replaced. Only a few miles, 6 specifically, are new fencing. None of it is a concrete wall as promised. Trump's wall is a hoax.
One of them was concrete.
The Dems threatened him with a resolution putting a requirement on $5.7 billion in funding for that wall that concrete could not be used in the wall itself. They wanted to redefine what it was and how it would be built. They wanted to be able to call it a fence instead of a wall. Trump has been using emergency funds to build the wall because the Democrat House wouldn't fund it.
It's no small wonder that this fact has been covered up. Politifact tried to cover it up by claiming it never happened..or that Democrats didn't demand steel..even though the discussion took place and was an attempt by the Democrats to call the wall a fence.
The problem is Politicfact lied...and later admitted in the story that Democrats wanted the wall built only with "Existing Technology" which means they tried to define how it was built and refused to allow a concrete wall.
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No, Democrats didn't ask for a steel barrier, as Trump said
The border wall impasse is not over construction materials. But President Donald Trump made it sound that way during hiswww.politifact.com
The claim was that Congress declared that cement could not be used. You are saying that the Democrats in the House threatened a resolution that would say that. (which also wouldn't actually do anything).
So I suppose Congress never declared that cement could not be used.
So call it what you want.
They wanted to be able to say it was a fence.
They wouldn't even admit later that they wanted the "Fence" to be made of any solid material.
They just told everyone later that existing technology must be used.
That sounds like they were making demands on what it could be made of.
But most Democrat apologists like yourself can never admit the truth unless your masters say you can say it first.
Why need funds from congress when Mexico was paying for it
They’re paying For it
It won’t stop the drugs but will stop many Criminals from waking in
The bigger issue is chain migration
Another nice thing about chain migration for Democrats is it makes it easier to bring drugs and diseases into the country while helping them increase sex-trafficking. The Pedophiles in Hollywood love the fact that Democrats are fighting to keep our borders open so they can continue bringing in lots of Central American child prostitutes. This is a fact that everyone on Hollywood wants to ignore.
And both parties love the low wages illegals provide and the ability for a business to avoid the taxes they would have to pay to hire a citizen.
Illegals drive down wages wherever they move. They steal work from Americans and hold down wages. Illegals often move several families into a rental unit and they combine their incomes to pay the rent.
LOL, you claim B.S. and then agree with me? LOL This seems to be happening more and more often.
I wasn't agreeing with you, dumbass.
LOL, yes you were.
Illegals drive down wages while raising taxes and thus raising the cost of living.
So in fact I am not agreeing with you.
Yes Democrats bitch about lower wages but arent going to do anything about it. LOL, on lower wages creating a better life. OMG............that may be the lamest thing I have ever read in my entire life.
Living four families to a house is a wonderful thing isn't it?
I don't disagree that illegal workers do all of that. I never said anything different. You agreed with me that both parties support lower wages. What is said and what is actually done are two very different things.
Is English you second language, bud, because I never agreed with you?
LOL, you did. I said illegals drive down wages. You said illegals drive down wages.
I didn't agree with you.You said both parties love lower wages.....the fact is....Democrats constantly bitch about low wages and Republicans believe in lower taxes which helps businesses create more jobs and individuals afford a better life.Clearly you have a problem with the English language.Bullshit!!!Democrats love chain migration. It's how they took over California, Oregon, Washington, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, New York, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and are currently trying to take over Texas.Military has received way too much $$$Yes they did...they wouldn't release the funds.You probably didn't look very hard.I couldn't find this anywhere. Got a link?Congress declared that some materials couldn't be used in building the wall.300 miles of replacement fencing. All the fencing fraudulently being called a "Wall" was originally built by Bush and Obama and replaced. Only a few miles, 6 specifically, are new fencing. None of it is a concrete wall as promised. Trump's wall is a hoax.
One of them was concrete.
The Dems threatened him with a resolution putting a requirement on $5.7 billion in funding for that wall that concrete could not be used in the wall itself. They wanted to redefine what it was and how it would be built. They wanted to be able to call it a fence instead of a wall. Trump has been using emergency funds to build the wall because the Democrat House wouldn't fund it.
It's no small wonder that this fact has been covered up. Politifact tried to cover it up by claiming it never happened..or that Democrats didn't demand steel..even though the discussion took place and was an attempt by the Democrats to call the wall a fence.
The problem is Politicfact lied...and later admitted in the story that Democrats wanted the wall built only with "Existing Technology" which means they tried to define how it was built and refused to allow a concrete wall.
![]()
No, Democrats didn't ask for a steel barrier, as Trump said
The border wall impasse is not over construction materials. But President Donald Trump made it sound that way during hiswww.politifact.com
The claim was that Congress declared that cement could not be used. You are saying that the Democrats in the House threatened a resolution that would say that. (which also wouldn't actually do anything).
So I suppose Congress never declared that cement could not be used.
So call it what you want.
They wanted to be able to say it was a fence.
They wouldn't even admit later that they wanted the "Fence" to be made of any solid material.
They just told everyone later that existing technology must be used.
That sounds like they were making demands on what it could be made of.
But most Democrat apologists like yourself can never admit the truth unless your masters say you can say it first.
Why need funds from congress when Mexico was paying for it
They’re paying For it
It won’t stop the drugs but will stop many Criminals from waking in
The bigger issue is chain migration
Another nice thing about chain migration for Democrats is it makes it easier to bring drugs and diseases into the country while helping them increase sex-trafficking. The Pedophiles in Hollywood love the fact that Democrats are fighting to keep our borders open so they can continue bringing in lots of Central American child prostitutes. This is a fact that everyone on Hollywood wants to ignore.
And both parties love the low wages illegals provide and the ability for a business to avoid the taxes they would have to pay to hire a citizen.
Illegals drive down wages wherever they move. They steal work from Americans and hold down wages. Illegals often move several families into a rental unit and they combine their incomes to pay the rent.
LOL, you claim B.S. and then agree with me? LOL This seems to be happening more and more often.
I wasn't agreeing with you, dumbass.
LOL, yes you were.
Illegals drive down wages while raising taxes and thus raising the cost of living.
So in fact I am not agreeing with you.
Yes Democrats bitch about lower wages but arent going to do anything about it. LOL, on lower wages creating a better life. OMG............that may be the lamest thing I have ever read in my entire life.
Living four families to a house is a wonderful thing isn't it?
I don't disagree that illegal workers do all of that. I never said anything different. You agreed with me that both parties support lower wages. What is said and what is actually done are two very different things.
Is English you second language, bud, because I never agreed with you?
LOL, you did. I said illegals drive down wages. You said illegals drive down wages.
Only another 1700 miles to go!
Only another 1700 miles to go!
Maybe, but 300 miles of more wall than we would have had under Hillary.
Well you're a damned liar. You said both parties like lower wages. I disagreed because Republicans like to make sure wages are held in check while Democrats are busy raising the cost of living. Lowering taxes takes money away from government and puts it in your pocket. That's what Democrats hate more than anything.I didn't agree with you.You said both parties love lower wages.....the fact is....Democrats constantly bitch about low wages and Republicans believe in lower taxes which helps businesses create more jobs and individuals afford a better life.Clearly you have a problem with the English language.Bullshit!!!Democrats love chain migration. It's how they took over California, Oregon, Washington, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, New York, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and are currently trying to take over Texas.Military has received way too much $$$Yes they did...they wouldn't release the funds.You probably didn't look very hard.I couldn't find this anywhere. Got a link?Congress declared that some materials couldn't be used in building the wall.300 miles of replacement fencing. All the fencing fraudulently being called a "Wall" was originally built by Bush and Obama and replaced. Only a few miles, 6 specifically, are new fencing. None of it is a concrete wall as promised. Trump's wall is a hoax.
One of them was concrete.
The Dems threatened him with a resolution putting a requirement on $5.7 billion in funding for that wall that concrete could not be used in the wall itself. They wanted to redefine what it was and how it would be built. They wanted to be able to call it a fence instead of a wall. Trump has been using emergency funds to build the wall because the Democrat House wouldn't fund it.
It's no small wonder that this fact has been covered up. Politifact tried to cover it up by claiming it never happened..or that Democrats didn't demand steel..even though the discussion took place and was an attempt by the Democrats to call the wall a fence.
The problem is Politicfact lied...and later admitted in the story that Democrats wanted the wall built only with "Existing Technology" which means they tried to define how it was built and refused to allow a concrete wall.
![]()
No, Democrats didn't ask for a steel barrier, as Trump said
The border wall impasse is not over construction materials. But President Donald Trump made it sound that way during hiswww.politifact.com
The claim was that Congress declared that cement could not be used. You are saying that the Democrats in the House threatened a resolution that would say that. (which also wouldn't actually do anything).
So I suppose Congress never declared that cement could not be used.
So call it what you want.
They wanted to be able to say it was a fence.
They wouldn't even admit later that they wanted the "Fence" to be made of any solid material.
They just told everyone later that existing technology must be used.
That sounds like they were making demands on what it could be made of.
But most Democrat apologists like yourself can never admit the truth unless your masters say you can say it first.
Why need funds from congress when Mexico was paying for it
They’re paying For it
It won’t stop the drugs but will stop many Criminals from waking in
The bigger issue is chain migration
Another nice thing about chain migration for Democrats is it makes it easier to bring drugs and diseases into the country while helping them increase sex-trafficking. The Pedophiles in Hollywood love the fact that Democrats are fighting to keep our borders open so they can continue bringing in lots of Central American child prostitutes. This is a fact that everyone on Hollywood wants to ignore.
And both parties love the low wages illegals provide and the ability for a business to avoid the taxes they would have to pay to hire a citizen.
Illegals drive down wages wherever they move. They steal work from Americans and hold down wages. Illegals often move several families into a rental unit and they combine their incomes to pay the rent.
LOL, you claim B.S. and then agree with me? LOL This seems to be happening more and more often.
I wasn't agreeing with you, dumbass.
LOL, yes you were.
Illegals drive down wages while raising taxes and thus raising the cost of living.
So in fact I am not agreeing with you.
Yes Democrats bitch about lower wages but arent going to do anything about it. LOL, on lower wages creating a better life. OMG............that may be the lamest thing I have ever read in my entire life.
Living four families to a house is a wonderful thing isn't it?
I don't disagree that illegal workers do all of that. I never said anything different. You agreed with me that both parties support lower wages. What is said and what is actually done are two very different things.
Is English you second language, bud, because I never agreed with you?
LOL, you did. I said illegals drive down wages. You said illegals drive down wages.
Only another 1700 miles to go!
Maybe, but 300 miles of more wall than we would have had under Hillary.
Democrats did nothing but go into hyperbolic meltdowns and impeded in every possible way Trump building the wall, then they brag that he failed to do something where they kept trying to trip and stop him at all costs. Mr. Clean is Mr. Lame
Only another 1700 miles to go!
Maybe, but 300 miles of more wall than we would have had under Hillary.
Democrats did nothing but go into hyperbolic meltdowns and impeded in every possible way Trump building the wall, then they brag that he failed to do something where they kept trying to trip and stop him at all costs. Mr. Clean is Mr. Lame
They have a tough time defending the longest government shutdown in our history to stop Trump's wall. Trump only wanted 3 billion which is about what we spend on a half of a month in food stamps. While 3 billion is a lot of money, it's pocket change when you consider our 4 trillion dollar budget every year.
Lou Dobbs?Fox News only has 3 conservatives
Hannity , Laura and Tucker
That’s it
California and Arizona are completed
Texas is only 1/3 done
Last I checked nobody has every counted the number of illegal aliens in this country. I have hear the number of, 11 million stated for over a decade. I hear the same number of 17 million quoted year after year. Most likely the number is well over 30 million.Visa overstays have outnumbered people who enter the country illegally at the Southern border every year since 2007, according to a report by the Center for Migration Studies. The report's authors estimate that the number of total visa overstays was 600,000 more than the total number of border crossers and that in 2014, visa overstays accounted for two-thirds of all new undocumented immigrants.
The Southern border
Immigrants traveling through Mexico, of course, take up much of the public's attention on the issue of illegal immigration. And they do account for almost all people apprehended by CBP
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Where Does Illegal Immigration Mostly Occur? Here's What The Data Tell Us
The Trump administration says there is a national security crisis at the Southern border. But most people in the country illegally didn't sneak across the border; they overstayed their visas.www.npr.org
Until a law states that all in the country illegally must be registered and counted, or risk jail, deportation, and financial fines that impose a hardship, we will never know the true number of illegal aliens.
Most people requesting to come the United States from the third world countries are denied a visa.
Most that are here did not have the money to pay for a visa.
Most that are here can not read or write in their own language.
Either way, these are problems created by Biden and any other politician other than Trump and we can only trust Trump to fix the problem!
Only another 1700 miles to go!
Maybe, but 300 miles of more wall than we would have had under Hillary.
Democrats did nothing but go into hyperbolic meltdowns and impeded in every possible way Trump building the wall, then they brag that he failed to do something where they kept trying to trip and stop him at all costs. Mr. Clean is Mr. Lame
They have a tough time defending the longest government shutdown in our history to stop Trump's wall. Trump only wanted 3 billion which is about what we spend on a half of a month in food stamps. While 3 billion is a lot of money, it's pocket change when you consider our 4 trillion dollar budget every year.
Yep. And $3 billion or even $25 billion is chicken feed for what illegal aliens cost us in free medical care, educations, welfare and crime and prisions
Only another 1700 miles to go!
Maybe, but 300 miles of more wall than we would have had under Hillary.
Democrats did nothing but go into hyperbolic meltdowns and impeded in every possible way Trump building the wall, then they brag that he failed to do something where they kept trying to trip and stop him at all costs. Mr. Clean is Mr. Lame
They have a tough time defending the longest government shutdown in our history to stop Trump's wall. Trump only wanted 3 billion which is about what we spend on a half of a month in food stamps. While 3 billion is a lot of money, it's pocket change when you consider our 4 trillion dollar budget every year.
Yep. And $3 billion or even $25 billion is chicken feed for what illegal aliens cost us in free medical care, educations, welfare and crime and prisions
Negative Nellie ^^^: The reader might want to see the rest of the story:
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U.S. GDP loss with removal of all illegal immigrants, by industry 2016 | Statista
This statistic shows the estimated GDP loss if all illegal immigrant workers were removed from the United States.www.statista.com
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4 myths about how immigrants affect the U.S. economy
President Donald Trump’s characterization of immigrants, as people who are a drain public resources, is not backed by the data.www.pbs.org
I know that the real facts presented above will not change the opinion of many Trump supporters. Facts supported by primary sources and Wiki are rejected unless they support Trump's narrative.
Only another 1700 miles to go!
Maybe, but 300 miles of more wall than we would have had under Hillary.
Democrats did nothing but go into hyperbolic meltdowns and impeded in every possible way Trump building the wall, then they brag that he failed to do something where they kept trying to trip and stop him at all costs. Mr. Clean is Mr. Lame
They have a tough time defending the longest government shutdown in our history to stop Trump's wall. Trump only wanted 3 billion which is about what we spend on a half of a month in food stamps. While 3 billion is a lot of money, it's pocket change when you consider our 4 trillion dollar budget every year.
Yep. And $3 billion or even $25 billion is chicken feed for what illegal aliens cost us in free medical care, educations, welfare and crime and prisions
Negative Nellie ^^^: The reader might want to see the rest of the story:
![]()
U.S. GDP loss with removal of all illegal immigrants, by industry 2016 | Statista
This statistic shows the estimated GDP loss if all illegal immigrant workers were removed from the United States.www.statista.com
![]()
4 myths about how immigrants affect the U.S. economy
President Donald Trump’s characterization of immigrants, as people who are a drain public resources, is not backed by the data.www.pbs.org
I know that the real facts presented above will not change the opinion of many Trump supporters. Facts supported by primary sources and Wiki are rejected unless they support Trump's narrative.
California and Arizona are completed
Texas is only 1/3 done
Have you measured New Mexico's border? How many have fallen down and other sections breached?
Where do you get your fake news from?300 miles of replacement fencing. All the fencing fraudulently being called a "Wall" was originally built by Bush and Obama and replaced. Only a few miles, 6 specifically, are new fencing. None of it is a concrete wall as promised. Trump's wall is a hoax.
Seems the Democrats love money more than getting money to the poor.Trumpybear represents the Business side of the equation. Businesses love cheap labor and avoiding taxes. Poor people love money. They will find a way to combine, wall or no wall.
Seems the Democrats love money more than getting money to the poor.Trumpybear represents the Business side of the equation. Businesses love cheap labor and avoiding taxes. Poor people love money. They will find a way to combine, wall or no wall.
Who does not love avoiding taxes? It is our money, not yours.
Some jobs, certainly require cheap labor.
Cheap labor, is that why the Democrats make all the deals with the Chinese?
Seems the Democrats love money more than getting money to the poor.Trumpybear represents the Business side of the equation. Businesses love cheap labor and avoiding taxes. Poor people love money. They will find a way to combine, wall or no wall.
Who does not love avoiding taxes? It is our money, not yours.
Some jobs, certainly require cheap labor.
Cheap labor, is that why the Democrats make all the deals with the Chinese?
How many of Trumpybears products, that were branded under the family name, were manufactured in China?
The American consumer quit showing support for American made products starting in the early 80's. When it comes to purchases, price is paramount. We no longer care where it's made, how good of quality it is, as long as it's as cheap as we can buy it.
So industry leaders, like Donald Trump