Trump Has Screwed The Pooch!

[billyerock123]

Stop calling other people morons, when you’re not giving correct information either.

The allegation was that she had not turned all of her work documents to the National Archives before deleting them. Since she only used her email as SOS with other members of the department, she had assumed that if her recipients archived their emails that she had no need to send her duplicates. That was later found to be incorrect and was the source of most of the allegations against her.

The Republican Party sold the story that she was covering up her crimes of bribery and corruption by thoroughly cleaning her electronic devices, but they’ve never found where any such crimes ever happened.

Her server was not illegal. The laws against using private servers was passed after she left office.

well moron seems you haven't a clue either its all in here hearing ... she turned her phones and hard drives into the national archive ... as required by law ... she had two of her lawyers there to go over her emails with the lawyers of the national archives... this too is in the trans scripts of the hearing ... it was the national archive that gave her the go ahead and destroys her emails moron ... I can't help you live in the world of conspiracy theorist information ... yes the conspiracy theorist was hoping they find bribery information, but none to be found ...your rant your fellow ranters are morons period ...

 

[billyerock123]

So you’re the pooch. The only thing he’s fucking is the democrats mental health.

actually, our mental health is fine ...the more you expose him the more whiner trump gets we're
loving it ...

 

[billyerock123]

Trump isn't going to have a legal team. They'll all be in jail or disbarred for doing what he tells them to do. He can't get anyone competent to act for him any more, and that's hardly surprising.

What would be the point in taking on a client who refuses to listen to your best advice. It's not going to end well for him, and every step he's taken in the search warrant matter has only proven that he was lying about everything he said about the matter at the outset.

You'd have to give up all of your PAYING clients, who do listen to your advice, stop committing further crimes, and try to dig themselves out of their messes. Trump just keeps digging himself in deeper, threatening the AG, and trying to intimidate witnesses. Sit down, shut up, and don't talk anyone connected with the case, fool.

The DOJ has an open and shut case, with witnesses. All of his excuses have been shot down in flames. Maybe he didn't pack the boxes but he did hang onto them for 18 months, lied about what he had, and refused to give it back, even after he received a subpoena. LOCK HIM UP!!!!

I think it's hilarious that Trump could go to jail for violating a law he signed, in the hopes of taking down Hillary Clinton with it. That just warms the cockles of my heart.

i laugh at every time I hear him whine ...

 

[billyerock123]

Liar.

actually, there are many so-called messiahs that have the same thing Jesus did ... Identical 2 and 3 thousand years before christ's birth ... all were virgin births, all died on a cross... all rose from the dead ...

 

[JustAGuy1]

actually, there are many so-called messiahs that have the same thing Jesus did ... Identical 2 and 3 thousand years before christ's birth ... all were virgin births, all died on a cross... all rose from the dead ...

Actually, no.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

actually, our mental health is fine ...the more you expose him the more whiner trump gets we're
loving it ...

No. It’s not in good shape at all. Your mental health needs some serious work. There’s nothing stable about you people. You are confused as to which bathroom to use.

 

[bodecea]

Declassified by Trump. Are they claiming Biden reclassified them after he [Biden] was installed?

Not declassified by trump.....or else there would be declassification paperwork and the original classifying authorities would be notified.

How to show us you know nothing about the handling of classified materials.....

 

[bodecea]

You morons can’t seem to get it through your massively thick skulls. The President by virtue of being President can declassify any document. And he did. Don’t believe me? So what? Your real quarrel is with Kash Patel. And you don’t hold a candle to him.

And he didn’t “steal” a fucking thing. And you have zero evidence for your stupid claim that he did.

Where's the declassification paperwork? Why aren't trump's lawyers arguing that in court? How to show us you too know nothing about how classified material is handled. What a surprise.

 

[bodecea]

yeah...we'll see buddy. This is nothing but Wrap Up Smear. A common tactic of the left. Pelosi even admits it.

Your link is missing.

 

[bodecea]

They got him.

lol

Tick Tock....the gods bless the FBI!

 

[bodecea]

Isn't it a coincidence that they came up with this hours after the news broke that Trump is suing the regime.

Speaking of which...how are trump's lawsuits against Hillary and CNN coming along?

 

[bodecea]

Lol why should we believe you that he declassified them if you are basing that off of nothing at all?

That poster is making it clear he knows nothing about the classification/declassification of materials.

 

[bodecea]

BWHAAAAAAAaaaaaaa "Classified markings"

The president of the US is the CLASIFYING AGENT. This means he can declassify any document or process by his verbal authority. The marking means exactly squat.

Man are you idiots so gullible...

Where is the paperwork, MAGAt-sucker?

 

[excalibur]

Not declassified by trump.....or else there would be declassification paperwork and the original classifying authorities would be notified.

How to show us you know nothing about the handling of classified materials.....

No paperwork is required of POTUS. He had a standing order as did previous Presidents that any classified documents removed to the residence were automatically declassified.

From EO 13526 signed by Øbama.

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Sec. 3.5. Mandatory Declassification Review. (a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, all information classified under this order or predecessor orders shall be subject to a review for declassification by the originating agency if:​

...​

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(b) Information originated by the incumbent President or the incumbent Vice President; the incumbent President's White House Staff or the incumbent Vice President's Staff; committees, commissions, or boards appointed by the incumbent President; or other entities within the Executive Office of the President that solely advise and assist the incumbent President is exempted from the provisions of paragraph (a) of this section.​

Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

 

[billyerock123]

You tell me? The problem is you don’t know what you asked.

Here, to avoid your stupid any further, if they plant documents, he didn’t remove them. The big word you don’t know is plant. Hahaha

it's not a big word it's a word you use hoping you are somewhat right ... sad to say you are wrong ... nobody planted anything Donald J (jackoff) Dump stole these documents and you know it ... you know he's going to jail for it ...he knows he's going to jail for it... I know he's going to jail for it ... you can't stand that thought because your hero Donald J (jerkoff) Dump knows it ... so you think the word planted means something in this debate ... it clearly indicates you are running scared that he will loose ... you see now he is admitting he took they ... dumpy feel they were his documents... he trying to prove executive privilege in taking them ... so your idea they were planted just flew out the window...

 

[billyerock123]

Where is the paperwork, MAGAt-sucker?

what cracks me up is not one fool republican here has looked up how the president declassifies a classified document ... he just can't say willy nilly that this document is declassified ... he files the paperwork saying he's declassifying a document ... they don't know there is a paper trail ... it's like the president casn't attack a country without the congress passing it ... there are no pieces of paperwork showing he declassified them these republican will fight you tooth and nail say all he has to do is say it

 

[Rigby5]

Clearly presidents and vice presidents are above the whole classified doc legislation.
They are not granted security clearance by the gov, but are endowed with absolutely classified doc discretion by the voters, and that can not be rescinded.
The only question is whether or not Trump intended to satisfy FOIA or not, since he was taking so long to sort the docs.

 

[Rigby5]

what cracks me up is not one fool republican here has looked up how the president declassifies a classified document ... he just can't say willy nilly that this document is declassified ... he files the paperwork saying he's declassifying a document ... they don't know there is a paper trail ... it's like the president casn't attack a country without the congress passing it ... there are no pieces of paperwork showing he declassified them these republican will fight you tooth and nail say all he has to do is say it

Wrong.
There is no procedure for a president to declassify anything, because it is totally arbitrary and up to the president.
That is because presidents not only need to share classified docs with staffers at will, but may also decide to send classified info to other heads of states, for various legitimate reasons, and no one else gets any say.

And yes, a president can also attack a country if he believes there is an imminent threat from that country. He does not have to wait for congress if in defense.

 

[billyerock123]

No paperwork is required of POTUS. He had a standing order as did previous Presidents that any classified documents removed to the residence were automatically declassified.

From EO 13526 signed by Øbama.

​

Sec. 3.5. Mandatory Declassification Review. (a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, all information classified under this order or predecessor orders shall be subject to a review for declassification by the originating agency if:​

...​

​

(b) Information originated by the incumbent President or the incumbent Vice President; the incumbent President's White House Staff or the incumbent Vice President's Staff; committees, commissions, or boards appointed by the incumbent President; or other entities within the Executive Office of the President that solely advise and assist the incumbent President is exempted from the provisions of paragraph (a) of this section.​

Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

seems ther more to it
(A) a description of the file series;

(B) an explanation of why the information within the file series is almost invariably exempt from automatic declassification and why the information must remain classified for a longer period of time; and

(C) except when the information within the file series almost invariably identifies a confidential human source or a human intelligence source or key design concepts of weapons of mass destruction, a specific date or event for declassification of the information, not to exceed December 31 of the year that is 50 years from the date of origin of the records.

(3) The Panel may direct the agency not to exempt a designated file series or to declassify the information within that series at an earlier date than recommended. The agency head may appeal such a decision to the President through the National Security Advisor.

(4) File series exemptions approved by the President prior to December 31, 2008, shall remain valid without any additional agency action pending Panel review by the later of December 31, 2010, or December 31 of the year that is 10 years from the date of previous approval.

(d) The following provisions shall apply to the onset of automatic declassification:

(1) Classified records within an integral file block, as defined in this order, that are otherwise subject to automatic declassification under this section shall not be automatically declassified until December 31 of the year that is 25 years from the date of the most recent record within the file block.

(2) After consultation with the Director of the National Declassification Center (the Center) established by section 3.7 of this order and before the records are subject to automatic declassification, an agency head or senior agency official may delay automatic declassification for up to five additional years for classified information contained in media that make a review for possible declassification exemptions more difficult or costly.

(3) Other than for records that are properly exempted from automatic declassification, records containing classified information that originated with other agencies or the disclosure of which would affect the interests or activities of other agencies with respect to the classified information and could reasonably be expected to fall under one or more of the exemptions in paragraph (b) of this section shall be identified prior to the onset of automatic declassification for later referral to those agencies.

(A) The information of concern shall be referred by the Center established by section 3.7 of this order, or by the centralized facilities referred to in section 3.7(e) of this order, in a prioritized and scheduled manner determined by the Center.

(B) If an agency fails to provide a final determination on a referral made by the Center within 1 year of referral, or by the centralized facilities referred to in section 3.7(e) of this order within 3 years of referral, its equities in the referred records shall be automatically declassified.

(C) If any disagreement arises between affected agencies and the Center regarding the referral review period, the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office shall determine the appropriate period of review of referred records.

(D) Referrals identified prior to the establishment of the Center by section 3.7 of this order shall be subject to automatic declassification only in accordance with subparagraphs (d)(3)(A)–(C) of this section.

(4) After consultation with the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office, an agency head may delay automatic declassification for up to 3 years from the date of discovery of classified records that were inadvertently not reviewed prior to the effective date of automatic declassification.

(e) Information exempted from automatic declassification under this section shall remain subject to the mandatory and systematic declassification review provisions of this order.

(f) The Secretary of State shall determine when the United States should commence negotiations with the appropriate officials of a foreign government or international organization of governments to modify any treaty or international agreement that requires the classification of information contained in records affected by this section for a period longer than 25 years from the date of its creation, unless the treaty or international agreement pertains to information that may otherwise remain classified beyond 25 years under this section.

(g) The Secretary of Energy shall determine when information concerning foreign nuclear programs that was removed from the Restricted Data category in order to carry out provisions of the National Security Act of 1947, as amended, may be declassified. Unless otherwise determined, such information shall be declassified when comparable information concerning the United States nuclear program is declassified.

(h) Not later than 3 years from the effective date of this order, all records exempted from automatic declassification under paragraphs (b) and (c) of this section shall be automatically declassified on December 31 of a year that is no more than 50 years from the date of origin, subject to the following:

(1) Records that contain information the release of which should clearly and demonstrably be expected to reveal the following are exempt from automatic declassification at 50 years:

(A) the identity of a confidential human source or a human intelligence source; or

(B) key design concepts of weapons of mass destruction.

(2) In extraordinary cases, agency heads may, within 5 years of the onset of automatic declassification, propose to exempt additional specific information from declassification at 50 years.

(3) Records exempted from automatic declassification under this paragraph shall be automatically declassified on December 31 of a year that is no more than 75 years from the date of origin unless an agency head, within 5 years of that date, proposes to exempt specific information from declassification at 75 years and the proposal is formally approved by the Panel.

(i) Specific records exempted from automatic declassification prior to the establishment of the Center described in section 3.7 of this order shall be subject to the provisions of paragraph (h) of this section in a scheduled and prioritized manner determined by the Center.

(j) At least 1 year before the information is subject to automatic declassification under this section, an agency head or senior agency official shall notify the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office, serving as Executive Secretary of the Panel, of any specific information that the agency proposes to exempt from automatic declassification under paragraphs (b) and (h) of this section.

(1) The notification shall include:

(A) a detailed description of the information, either by reference to information in specific records or in the form of a declassification guide;

(B) an explanation of why the information should be exempt from automatic declassification and must remain classified for a longer period of time; and

(C) a specific date or a specific and independently verifiable event for automatic declassification of specific records that contain the information proposed for exemption.

 

[billyerock123]

Wrong.
There is no procedure for a president to declassify anything, because it is totally arbitrary and up to the president.
That is because presidents not only need to share classified docs with staffers at will, but may also decide to send classified info to other heads of states, for various legitimate reasons, and no one else gets any say.

And yes, a president can also attack a country if he believes there is an imminent threat from that country. He does not have to wait for congress if in defense.

Actuall there is
(A) a description of the file series;

(B) an explanation of why the information within the file series is almost invariably exempt from automatic declassification and why the information must remain classified for a longer period of time; and

(C) except when the information within the file series almost invariably identifies a confidential human source or a human intelligence source or key design concepts of weapons of mass destruction, a specific date or event for declassification of the information, not to exceed December 31 of the year that is 50 years from the date of origin of the records.

(3) The Panel may direct the agency not to exempt a designated file series or to declassify the information within that series at an earlier date than recommended. The agency head may appeal such a decision to the President through the National Security Advisor.

(4) File series exemptions approved by the President prior to December 31, 2008, shall remain valid without any additional agency action pending Panel review by the later of December 31, 2010, or December 31 of the year that is 10 years from the date of previous approval.

(d) The following provisions shall apply to the onset of automatic declassification:

(1) Classified records within an integral file block, as defined in this order, that are otherwise subject to automatic declassification under this section shall not be automatically declassified until December 31 of the year that is 25 years from the date of the most recent record within the file block.

(2) After consultation with the Director of the National Declassification Center (the Center) established by section 3.7 of this order and before the records are subject to automatic declassification, an agency head or senior agency official may delay automatic declassification for up to five additional years for classified information contained in media that make a review for possible declassification exemptions more difficult or costly.

(3) Other than for records that are properly exempted from automatic declassification, records containing classified information that originated with other agencies or the disclosure of which would affect the interests or activities of other agencies with respect to the classified information and could reasonably be expected to fall under one or more of the exemptions in paragraph (b) of this section shall be identified prior to the onset of automatic declassification for later referral to those agencies.

(A) The information of concern shall be referred by the Center established by section 3.7 of this order, or by the centralized facilities referred to in section 3.7(e) of this order, in a prioritized and scheduled manner determined by the Center.

(B) If an agency fails to provide a final determination on a referral made by the Center within 1 year of referral, or by the centralized facilities referred to in section 3.7(e) of this order within 3 years of referral, its equities in the referred records shall be automatically declassified.

(C) If any disagreement arises between affected agencies and the Center regarding the referral review period, the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office shall determine the appropriate period of review of referred records.

(D) Referrals identified prior to the establishment of the Center by section 3.7 of this order shall be subject to automatic declassification only in accordance with subparagraphs (d)(3)(A)–(C) of this section.

(4) After consultation with the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office, an agency head may delay automatic declassification for up to 3 years from the date of discovery of classified records that were inadvertently not reviewed prior to the effective date of automatic declassification.

(e) Information exempted from automatic declassification under this section shall remain subject to the mandatory and systematic declassification review provisions of this order.

(f) The Secretary of State shall determine when the United States should commence negotiations with the appropriate officials of a foreign government or international organization of governments to modify any treaty or international agreement that requires the classification of information contained in records affected by this section for a period longer than 25 years from the date of its creation, unless the treaty or international agreement pertains to information that may otherwise remain classified beyond 25 years under this section.

(g) The Secretary of Energy shall determine when information concerning foreign nuclear programs that was removed from the Restricted Data category in order to carry out provisions of the National Security Act of 1947, as amended, may be declassified. Unless otherwise determined, such information shall be declassified when comparable information concerning the United States nuclear program is declassified.

(h) Not later than 3 years from the effective date of this order, all records exempted from automatic declassification under paragraphs (b) and (c) of this section shall be automatically declassified on December 31 of a year that is no more than 50 years from the date of origin, subject to the following:

(1) Records that contain information the release of which should clearly and demonstrably be expected to reveal the following are exempt from automatic declassification at 50 years:

(A) the identity of a confidential human source or a human intelligence source; or

(B) key design concepts of weapons of mass destruction.

(2) In extraordinary cases, agency heads may, within 5 years of the onset of automatic declassification, propose to exempt additional specific information from declassification at 50 years.

(3) Records exempted from automatic declassification under this paragraph shall be automatically declassified on December 31 of a year that is no more than 75 years from the date of origin unless an agency head, within 5 years of that date, proposes to exempt specific information from declassification at 75 years and the proposal is formally approved by the Panel.

(i) Specific records exempted from automatic declassification prior to the establishment of the Center described in section 3.7 of this order shall be subject to the provisions of paragraph (h) of this section in a scheduled and prioritized manner determined by the Center.

(j) At least 1 year before information is subject to automatic declassification under this section, an agency head or senior agency official shall notify the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office, serving as Executive Secretary of the Panel, of any specific information that the agency proposes to exempt from automatic declassification under paragraphs (b) and (h) of this section.

(1) The notification shall include:

(A) a detailed description of the information, either by reference to information in specific records or in the form of a declassification guide;

(B) an explanation of why the information should be exempt from automatic declassification and must remain classified for a longer period of time; and

(C) a specific date or a specific and independently verifiable event for automatic declassification of specific records that contain the information proposed for exemption.