Trump is going to FORCE democrats to work! Or adjourn them!

[Mr Natural]

Maybe he could force you to get a full-time job.

No need for bus boys and dishwashers when the restaurants are all closed.

Why do you make fun of these jobs?

What makes you think I'm making fun of those jobs?

They're very important to the restaurant industry which is virtually shut down right now.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

So he's gonna shut down Congress in the middle of a pandemic crisis, just so he can get his officials in without a vote? Trump is going further and further off the rails in his power grabs.

The House already shut down until May 4.

Democrats meet by phone after House postpones reconvening until May 4 - Washington Examiner

House lawmakers won't return to the Capitol until May 4 or later due to the threat of the coronavirus Democratic leaders told rank-and-file members on Monday.The move extends a prolonged recess that began in March 12, and it abandons a plan to reconvene on April 20. "Members are further advised...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

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Actually what Trump is doing is to shut down the Pro Forma Session of Congress. Which means, "it is a short period of time when either the House or Senate is technically in legislative session but when no votes are held and no formal business is typically conducted. It is a Latin term meaning “in form only.”"
Therefore, at that point the President has the authority to shut it down...

The Supreme Court has already ruled on that- the Senate is in session whenever it says it is in session- not when the President says it is in session.

Of course back in 2017 you were quite happy that the Senate was working to block Obama's recess appointments.

My how your tune changes when it is your Dear Leader not getting his way.

The Heritage Guide to the Constitution

The Heritage Guide to the Constitution is intended to provide a brief and accurate explanation of each clause of the Constitution.

www.heritage.org

This, from the heritage foundation link, is why I oppose Trump's threat:

Convening of Congress
ARTICLE II, SECTION 3
[The President] may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper....
Under British practice, the king could convene or dissolve Parliament at will. This powerful right was naturally a source of tension between the crown and Parliament. Kings wielded this power as they wished but would have to re-convene Parliament when they wanted more money. The right to dissolve or convene Parliaments bred dangerous instability and was one of the driving forces of the English Civil War (1642–1651), which was, at bottom, a war of institutions: the Parliament against the crown.
The experience of England was fresh in the mind of the American founders when they issued the Declaration of Independence, for in many ways the Americans believed they were replicating the Glorious Revolution of 1688:

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the repository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for, opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected. . . .

That American statesmen learned well from the experience of England can also be seen in the state constitutions that were drafted between the Declaration of Independence and Constitutional Convention. Under nine of the state constitutions adopted during that period, the governor had no power to “prorogue, dissolve, or adjourn” the legislature.
With the Framers’ knowledge of English history, their experience with King George III, and the practice of the states, it is no surprise that the decision to give the executive of the United States little authority over when and where Congress should meet appeared to pass the Convention with no debate, following the proposal first made in the Committee of Detail. The Constitution insists that Congress’s right to convene must be independent of the will of the executive. Article I, Section 4, Clause 2. “Each house,” Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1790, had a “natural right to meet when and where it should think best.”
Nonetheless, the Framers also understood that the government must be able to meet exigent circumstances and therefore gave the president the very limited power to convene Congress “on extraordinary occasions.” Justice Joseph Story indicated in his Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States (1833) that the president’s need to conduct foreign relations effectively would be the primary motive for convening Congress. He gave as examples the need “to repel foreign aggressions, depredations, and direct hostilities; to provide adequate means to mitigate, or overcome unexpected calamities; to suppress insurrections; and to provide for innumerable other important exigencies, arising out of the intercourse and revolutions among nations.”
Beginning with John Adams in 1797, the president has convened both the House and the Senate twenty-seven times, normally for crises such as war, economic emergency, or critical legislation. In addition, the president has called the Senate to meet to confirm nominations. With the ratification of the Twentieth Amendment, which brought forward the date on which Congress convenes, and with the practice of Congress to remain in session twelve months out of the year, there is practically no need for the president to call extraordinary sessions anymore. President Harry S. Truman called the last special session on July 26, 1948.
Of course, even more important to the Framers was limiting the power of the executive to dissolve the legislature. They understood from English history that such power was among the quickest routes to tyranny. Under the Constitution, therefore, as Alexander Hamilton explained, “[t]he President can only adjourn the national Legislature in the single case of disagreement about the time of adjournment.” The Federalist No. 69. It is only an administrative power, one that the president has never had to exercise.

Yet, it is Constitutional.

Agree to disagree.

The Executive has VERY limited power to convene or adjourn Congress. Even MORE limited on the adjournment side.

.

 

[Jitss617]

Maybe he could force you to get a full-time job.

No need for bus boys and dishwashers when the restaurants are all closed.

Why do you make fun of these jobs?

What makes you think I'm making fun of those jobs?

They're very important to the restaurant industry which is virtually shut down right now.

Americans used to work these jobs, many still do. Raised families, had homes, now they are occupied by invading Latinos lowering wages.. we need these jobs back

 

[JimBowie1958]

Clash on appointments brews as Trump threatens to invoke little-known power to adjourn Congress

Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution gives the president the power to "adjourn [Congress] to such Time as he shall think proper," when the House and Senate cannot agree on when to adjourn. Trump said the Senate should stop conducting its pro forma sessions and formally adjourn to allow him...

www.foxnews.com

A clash over appointments to executive agencies is brewing after President Trump threatened to invoke an obscure constitutional power to adjourn both chambers of Congress under certain circumstances as a way to allow himself to make recess appointments — filling vacancies in jobs he says are needed to help fight the coronavirus without the advice and consent of the Senate.​

​

Presidents have the power under the U.S. Constitution to temporarily fill vacancies while the Senate is out of session, but the body holds what are called "pro forma" sessions – very brief meetings with a skeleton crew that happen when the body is not taking care of legislative business – in order to remain in session, thus blocking recess appointments. Trump wants to use that power to fill vacancies in executive agencies that have been largely neglected by a Senate focused mainly on lifetime judicial appointments....​

​

But Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution gives the president the power to "adjourn [Congress] to such Time as he shall think proper," when the House and Senate cannot agree on when to adjourn. Trump said the Senate should stop conducting its pro forma sessions and formally adjourn to allow him to make recess appointments.​

​

"If the House will not agree to that adjournment I will exercise my constitutional authority to adjourn both chambers of Congress," Trump said. "The current practice of leaving town while conducting phony pro forma sessions is a dereliction of duty that the American people cannot afford during this crisis."​

And Trump is 100% correct to do so and when the Democrats scream like hell, just sit back and enjoy the music knowing it proves you right.

Do you have a link showing the senate is currently adjourned?

No, the Senate is NOT adjourned, THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

Trump cannot make recess appointments while the Senate is in pro Forma sessions as they are not adjourned, technically.

 

[JimBowie1958]

So he's gonna shut down Congress in the middle of a pandemic crisis, just so he can get his officials in without a vote? Trump is going further and further off the rails in his power grabs.

The House already shut down until May 4.

Democrats meet by phone after House postpones reconvening until May 4 - Washington Examiner

House lawmakers won't return to the Capitol until May 4 or later due to the threat of the coronavirus Democratic leaders told rank-and-file members on Monday.The move extends a prolonged recess that began in March 12, and it abandons a plan to reconvene on April 20. "Members are further advised...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

~~~~~~
Actually what Trump is doing is to shut down the Pro Forma Session of Congress. Which means, "it is a short period of time when either the House or Senate is technically in legislative session but when no votes are held and no formal business is typically conducted. It is a Latin term meaning “in form only.”"
Therefore, at that point the President has the authority to shut it down...

The Supreme Court has already ruled on that- the Senate is in session whenever it says it is in session- not when the President says it is in session.

Of course back in 2017 you were quite happy that the Senate was working to block Obama's recess appointments.

My how your tune changes when it is your Dear Leader not getting his way.

The Heritage Guide to the Constitution

The Heritage Guide to the Constitution is intended to provide a brief and accurate explanation of each clause of the Constitution.

www.heritage.org

This, from the heritage foundation link, is why I oppose Trump's threat:

Convening of Congress
ARTICLE II, SECTION 3
[The President] may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper....
Under British practice, the king could convene or dissolve Parliament at will. This powerful right was naturally a source of tension between the crown and Parliament. Kings wielded this power as they wished but would have to re-convene Parliament when they wanted more money. The right to dissolve or convene Parliaments bred dangerous instability and was one of the driving forces of the English Civil War (1642–1651), which was, at bottom, a war of institutions: the Parliament against the crown.
The experience of England was fresh in the mind of the American founders when they issued the Declaration of Independence, for in many ways the Americans believed they were replicating the Glorious Revolution of 1688:

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the repository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for, opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected. . . .

That American statesmen learned well from the experience of England can also be seen in the state constitutions that were drafted between the Declaration of Independence and Constitutional Convention. Under nine of the state constitutions adopted during that period, the governor had no power to “prorogue, dissolve, or adjourn” the legislature.
With the Framers’ knowledge of English history, their experience with King George III, and the practice of the states, it is no surprise that the decision to give the executive of the United States little authority over when and where Congress should meet appeared to pass the Convention with no debate, following the proposal first made in the Committee of Detail. The Constitution insists that Congress’s right to convene must be independent of the will of the executive. Article I, Section 4, Clause 2. “Each house,” Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1790, had a “natural right to meet when and where it should think best.”
Nonetheless, the Framers also understood that the government must be able to meet exigent circumstances and therefore gave the president the very limited power to convene Congress “on extraordinary occasions.” Justice Joseph Story indicated in his Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States (1833) that the president’s need to conduct foreign relations effectively would be the primary motive for convening Congress. He gave as examples the need “to repel foreign aggressions, depredations, and direct hostilities; to provide adequate means to mitigate, or overcome unexpected calamities; to suppress insurrections; and to provide for innumerable other important exigencies, arising out of the intercourse and revolutions among nations.”
Beginning with John Adams in 1797, the president has convened both the House and the Senate twenty-seven times, normally for crises such as war, economic emergency, or critical legislation. In addition, the president has called the Senate to meet to confirm nominations. With the ratification of the Twentieth Amendment, which brought forward the date on which Congress convenes, and with the practice of Congress to remain in session twelve months out of the year, there is practically no need for the president to call extraordinary sessions anymore. President Harry S. Truman called the last special session on July 26, 1948.
Of course, even more important to the Framers was limiting the power of the executive to dissolve the legislature. They understood from English history that such power was among the quickest routes to tyranny. Under the Constitution, therefore, as Alexander Hamilton explained, “[t]he President can only adjourn the national Legislature in the single case of disagreement about the time of adjournment.” The Federalist No. 69. It is only an administrative power, one that the president has never had to exercise.

But he CAN exercise it in times where the Congress is abusing its power to technically remain in session and prevent appointments by the President while Congress is in recesss.

Trump should do this to force Congress to grow the hell up and do their damned jobs.

 

[Mr Natural]

Americans used to work these jobs, many still do. Raised families, had homes, now they are occupied by invading Latinos lowering wages.. we need these jobs back

That was then, this is now. Times change.

Get with the times or get left behind.

 

[Jitss617]

Americans used to work these jobs, many still do. Raised families, had homes, now they are occupied by invading Latinos lowering wages.. we need these jobs back

That was then, this is now. Times change.

Get with the times or get left behind.

I walk by 500 struggling Americans on the street who rather be home less and over dose on drugs then take jobs where illegals have destroyed the wages.. these jobs would be beneficial to Americans struggling.. you democrats are just sick people, I’m watching a movie about Stalin,, and his treat meant of his own citizens.. you democrats remind me of him. It’s gotta end soon.. just hope your man enough to come forward when called

 

[Mr Natural]

Americans used to work these jobs, many still do. Raised families, had homes, now they are occupied by invading Latinos lowering wages.. we need these jobs back

That was then, this is now. Times change.

Get with the times or get left behind.

I walk by 500 struggling Americans on the street who rather be home less and over dose on drugs then take jobs where illegals have destroyed the wages.. these jobs would be beneficial to Americans struggling.. you democrats are just sick people, I’m watching a movie about Stalin,, and his treat meant of his own citizens.. you democrats remind me of him. It’s gotta end soon.. just hope your man enough to come forward when called

Would you like a little cheese with that whine?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Would you like a little cheese with that whine?

Would you like a little lube with your ass reaming?

Well too damned bad.

 

[bendog]

Clash on appointments brews as Trump threatens to invoke little-known power to adjourn Congress

Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution gives the president the power to "adjourn [Congress] to such Time as he shall think proper," when the House and Senate cannot agree on when to adjourn. Trump said the Senate should stop conducting its pro forma sessions and formally adjourn to allow him...

www.foxnews.com

A clash over appointments to executive agencies is brewing after President Trump threatened to invoke an obscure constitutional power to adjourn both chambers of Congress under certain circumstances as a way to allow himself to make recess appointments — filling vacancies in jobs he says are needed to help fight the coronavirus without the advice and consent of the Senate.​

​

Presidents have the power under the U.S. Constitution to temporarily fill vacancies while the Senate is out of session, but the body holds what are called "pro forma" sessions – very brief meetings with a skeleton crew that happen when the body is not taking care of legislative business – in order to remain in session, thus blocking recess appointments. Trump wants to use that power to fill vacancies in executive agencies that have been largely neglected by a Senate focused mainly on lifetime judicial appointments....​

​

But Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution gives the president the power to "adjourn [Congress] to such Time as he shall think proper," when the House and Senate cannot agree on when to adjourn. Trump said the Senate should stop conducting its pro forma sessions and formally adjourn to allow him to make recess appointments.​

​

"If the House will not agree to that adjournment I will exercise my constitutional authority to adjourn both chambers of Congress," Trump said. "The current practice of leaving town while conducting phony pro forma sessions is a dereliction of duty that the American people cannot afford during this crisis."​

And Trump is 100% correct to do so and when the Democrats scream like hell, just sit back and enjoy the music knowing it proves you right.

Do you have a link showing the senate is currently adjourned?

No, the Senate is NOT adjourned, THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

Trump cannot make recess appointments while the Senate is in pro Forma sessions as they are not adjourned, technically.

Exactly. And Moscow Mitch ain't gonna adjourn them.

McConnell Dismisses Trump’s Call to Adjourn Congress to Make Federal Appointments

 

[Jitss617]

Americans used to work these jobs, many still do. Raised families, had homes, now they are occupied by invading Latinos lowering wages.. we need these jobs back

That was then, this is now. Times change.

Get with the times or get left behind.

I walk by 500 struggling Americans on the street who rather be home less and over dose on drugs then take jobs where illegals have destroyed the wages.. these jobs would be beneficial to Americans struggling.. you democrats are just sick people, I’m watching a movie about Stalin,, and his treat meant of his own citizens.. you democrats remind me of him. It’s gotta end soon.. just hope your man enough to come forward when called

Would you like a little cheese with that whine?

I’d hold to that cheese you and yours will need it soon haha

 

[OldLady]

I'm from the position of following the Constitution, which was designed to prevent one branch from becoming overly powerful. The Executive does not have the authority to do what Trump threatened. Are the Dems playing games? Seems so. They're taking hours or days to confirm his appointments instead of voting "in an hour" as Trump would prefer. Yet the Republicans actually made history by refusing to even entertain the nomination of Merrrick Garland, and there were Senators in Congress who openly admitted that they were there to oppose every. single. thing. that President Obama promoted. So I guess it's pretty even steven on that score.

Umm, they are literally taking multiple years to confirm.

Trick is, Trump has MORE freedom with 'acting' officials rather than formally appointed officials.

Trump is doing this so the Democrats, can, by reacting predictably opposite to anything Trump says, make it look like Trump really wants these appointments approved but the mean ole Dems are obstructing him, which they are, but he wants them too.

roflmao

BTW, The POTUS Adjourning Congress is Constitutional, literally written in the Constitution, lol.

Yes, when the House and Senate cannot agree on an adjournment date, It's in Article II, Section 3. It's the ONLY time.

As for the "Acting" appointments, they are not what is being talked about here. An "Acting" official can't be nominated. If he wanted 'acting' officials in those 120+ spots he's crabbing about, he would have appointed someone already.

 

[OldLady]

So he's gonna shut down Congress in the middle of a pandemic crisis, just so he can get his officials in without a vote? Trump is going further and further off the rails in his power grabs.

The House already shut down until May 4.

Democrats meet by phone after House postpones reconvening until May 4 - Washington Examiner

House lawmakers won't return to the Capitol until May 4 or later due to the threat of the coronavirus Democratic leaders told rank-and-file members on Monday.The move extends a prolonged recess that began in March 12, and it abandons a plan to reconvene on April 20. "Members are further advised...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

~~~~~~
Actually what Trump is doing is to shut down the Pro Forma Session of Congress. Which means, "it is a short period of time when either the House or Senate is technically in legislative session but when no votes are held and no formal business is typically conducted. It is a Latin term meaning “in form only.”"
Therefore, at that point the President has the authority to shut it down...

But you just made that up. He does not have the authority to do that.

 

[OldLady]

But he CAN exercise it in times where the Congress is abusing its power to technically remain in session and prevent appointments by the President while Congress is in recesss.

Show me where he is granted that authority, please.

 

[OldLady]

So he's gonna shut down Congress in the middle of a pandemic crisis, just so he can get his officials in without a vote? Trump is going further and further off the rails in his power grabs.

The House already shut down until May 4.

Democrats meet by phone after House postpones reconvening until May 4 - Washington Examiner

House lawmakers won't return to the Capitol until May 4 or later due to the threat of the coronavirus Democratic leaders told rank-and-file members on Monday.The move extends a prolonged recess that began in March 12, and it abandons a plan to reconvene on April 20. "Members are further advised...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

~~~~~~
Actually what Trump is doing is to shut down the Pro Forma Session of Congress. Which means, "it is a short period of time when either the House or Senate is technically in legislative session but when no votes are held and no formal business is typically conducted. It is a Latin term meaning “in form only.”"
Therefore, at that point the President has the authority to shut it down...

Where is that authority granted to the President? They are pro forma due to the social distancing recommended during a national emergency.

 

[OldLady]

What’s the downside? Congress went on vacation during a national emergency.

Somebody like that motherfucking commie, Barrack Obama coming in and pointing to Trump's actions as precedent and royally fucking us over.

Do not let ANY of them get away with thumbing their noses at the Constitution.

.

What is amusing about your post is that President Obama tried to do pretty much the same thing and the Supreme Court slapped him down.

This is what McConnell said then:
Minority Leader Mitch McConnell agreed with the ruling: "The President made an unprecedented power grab by placing political allies at a powerful federal agency while the Senate was meeting regularly and without even bothering to wait for its advice and consent

That is exactly what Trump is trying to do.

I do NOT support Trump's unconstitutional action.

.

It’s not unConstitutional.

Noel Canning Redux: Justices Breyer and Scalia wrote that the President could use the adjournment power to block Senate "intransigence" (Updated)

Today, President Trump said he could adjourn Congress as a means to make recess appointments. "If the House will not…

reason.com

What Trump has suggested is certainly unconstitutional- since there is no disagreement on the date of adjournment.

But hell- why even pretend- if Trump pissed on the Constitution, and then sold it to Russia, you would be applauding his prudent use of urine and fiscal good sense.

SCOTUS will inform us. And two Justices have already said it’s Constitutional.

link?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Show me where he is granted that authority, please.

It is in the Constitution.

 

[Syriusly]

So he's gonna shut down Congress in the middle of a pandemic crisis, just so he can get his officials in without a vote? Trump is going further and further off the rails in his power grabs.

The House already shut down until May 4.

Democrats meet by phone after House postpones reconvening until May 4 - Washington Examiner

House lawmakers won't return to the Capitol until May 4 or later due to the threat of the coronavirus Democratic leaders told rank-and-file members on Monday.The move extends a prolonged recess that began in March 12, and it abandons a plan to reconvene on April 20. "Members are further advised...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

~~~~~~
Actually what Trump is doing is to shut down the Pro Forma Session of Congress. Which means, "it is a short period of time when either the House or Senate is technically in legislative session but when no votes are held and no formal business is typically conducted. It is a Latin term meaning “in form only.”"
Therefore, at that point the President has the authority to shut it down...

The Supreme Court has already ruled on that- the Senate is in session whenever it says it is in session- not when the President says it is in session.

Of course back in 2017 you were quite happy that the Senate was working to block Obama's recess appointments.

My how your tune changes when it is your Dear Leader not getting his way.

The Heritage Guide to the Constitution

The Heritage Guide to the Constitution is intended to provide a brief and accurate explanation of each clause of the Constitution.

www.heritage.org

This, from the heritage foundation link, is why I oppose Trump's threat:

Convening of Congress
ARTICLE II, SECTION 3
[The President] may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper....
Under British practice, the king could convene or dissolve Parliament at will. This powerful right was naturally a source of tension between the crown and Parliament. Kings wielded this power as they wished but would have to re-convene Parliament when they wanted more money. The right to dissolve or convene Parliaments bred dangerous instability and was one of the driving forces of the English Civil War (1642–1651), which was, at bottom, a war of institutions: the Parliament against the crown.
The experience of England was fresh in the mind of the American founders when they issued the Declaration of Independence, for in many ways the Americans believed they were replicating the Glorious Revolution of 1688:

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the repository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for, opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected. . . .

That American statesmen learned well from the experience of England can also be seen in the state constitutions that were drafted between the Declaration of Independence and Constitutional Convention. Under nine of the state constitutions adopted during that period, the governor had no power to “prorogue, dissolve, or adjourn” the legislature.
With the Framers’ knowledge of English history, their experience with King George III, and the practice of the states, it is no surprise that the decision to give the executive of the United States little authority over when and where Congress should meet appeared to pass the Convention with no debate, following the proposal first made in the Committee of Detail. The Constitution insists that Congress’s right to convene must be independent of the will of the executive. Article I, Section 4, Clause 2. “Each house,” Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1790, had a “natural right to meet when and where it should think best.”
Nonetheless, the Framers also understood that the government must be able to meet exigent circumstances and therefore gave the president the very limited power to convene Congress “on extraordinary occasions.” Justice Joseph Story indicated in his Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States (1833) that the president’s need to conduct foreign relations effectively would be the primary motive for convening Congress. He gave as examples the need “to repel foreign aggressions, depredations, and direct hostilities; to provide adequate means to mitigate, or overcome unexpected calamities; to suppress insurrections; and to provide for innumerable other important exigencies, arising out of the intercourse and revolutions among nations.”
Beginning with John Adams in 1797, the president has convened both the House and the Senate twenty-seven times, normally for crises such as war, economic emergency, or critical legislation. In addition, the president has called the Senate to meet to confirm nominations. With the ratification of the Twentieth Amendment, which brought forward the date on which Congress convenes, and with the practice of Congress to remain in session twelve months out of the year, there is practically no need for the president to call extraordinary sessions anymore. President Harry S. Truman called the last special session on July 26, 1948.
Of course, even more important to the Framers was limiting the power of the executive to dissolve the legislature. They understood from English history that such power was among the quickest routes to tyranny. Under the Constitution, therefore, as Alexander Hamilton explained, “[t]he President can only adjourn the national Legislature in the single case of disagreement about the time of adjournment.” The Federalist No. 69. It is only an administrative power, one that the president has never had to exercise.

But he CAN exercise it in times where the Congress is abusing its power to technically remain in session and prevent appointments by the President while Congress is in recesss.

Trump should do this to force Congress to grow the hell up and do their damned jobs.

You mean you applaud Trump for his attempts to circumvent the Constitution- so he can do exactly what the Supreme Court told Barack Obama was unconstitutional.

The Supreme Court already addressed this 'abusing its power to technically remain in session' when Obama made the same claim- and you called Obama a dictator when he said the Senate was abusing its power- the Supreme Court was very specific- the Senate is in session whenever the Senate says it is in session.

Its a fun argument- watching the Trumpkins twist themselves in circles to approve Trump's attempt to circumvent the Constitution- but really pretty irrelevant.

I think it is telling that Trump is very open about claiming he has absolute authority over the states, and in the same week, very openly explains how he wants to abuse the Constitution if the doesn't get his way.

But it is all just a distraction by Trump, to distract Americans from the horrible job his administration has done handling the pandemic.

As usual, Trump blames everyone and anyone for every failure. its the Democrats fault, Its Obamas fault, its the World Health Organization's fault- but Trump of course accepts no blame- or responsibility for his actions- or inactions.

That is how he has been during his entire Presidency- and it is on full display right now.

 

[Syriusly]

Show me where he is granted that authority, please.

It is in the Constitution.

Oh do please quote the part in the Constitution where it says:
But he CAN exercise it in times where the Congress is abusing its power to technically remain in session and prevent appointments by the President while Congress is in recesss.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

So he's gonna shut down Congress in the middle of a pandemic crisis, just so he can get his officials in without a vote? Trump is going further and further off the rails in his power grabs.

The House already shut down until May 4.

Democrats meet by phone after House postpones reconvening until May 4 - Washington Examiner

House lawmakers won't return to the Capitol until May 4 or later due to the threat of the coronavirus Democratic leaders told rank-and-file members on Monday.The move extends a prolonged recess that began in March 12, and it abandons a plan to reconvene on April 20. "Members are further advised...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

~~~~~~
Actually what Trump is doing is to shut down the Pro Forma Session of Congress. Which means, "it is a short period of time when either the House or Senate is technically in legislative session but when no votes are held and no formal business is typically conducted. It is a Latin term meaning “in form only.”"
Therefore, at that point the President has the authority to shut it down...

The Supreme Court has already ruled on that- the Senate is in session whenever it says it is in session- not when the President says it is in session.

Of course back in 2017 you were quite happy that the Senate was working to block Obama's recess appointments.

My how your tune changes when it is your Dear Leader not getting his way.

The Heritage Guide to the Constitution

The Heritage Guide to the Constitution is intended to provide a brief and accurate explanation of each clause of the Constitution.

www.heritage.org

This, from the heritage foundation link, is why I oppose Trump's threat:

Convening of Congress
ARTICLE II, SECTION 3
[The President] may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper....
Under British practice, the king could convene or dissolve Parliament at will. This powerful right was naturally a source of tension between the crown and Parliament. Kings wielded this power as they wished but would have to re-convene Parliament when they wanted more money. The right to dissolve or convene Parliaments bred dangerous instability and was one of the driving forces of the English Civil War (1642–1651), which was, at bottom, a war of institutions: the Parliament against the crown.
The experience of England was fresh in the mind of the American founders when they issued the Declaration of Independence, for in many ways the Americans believed they were replicating the Glorious Revolution of 1688:

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the repository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for, opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected. . . .

That American statesmen learned well from the experience of England can also be seen in the state constitutions that were drafted between the Declaration of Independence and Constitutional Convention. Under nine of the state constitutions adopted during that period, the governor had no power to “prorogue, dissolve, or adjourn” the legislature.
With the Framers’ knowledge of English history, their experience with King George III, and the practice of the states, it is no surprise that the decision to give the executive of the United States little authority over when and where Congress should meet appeared to pass the Convention with no debate, following the proposal first made in the Committee of Detail. The Constitution insists that Congress’s right to convene must be independent of the will of the executive. Article I, Section 4, Clause 2. “Each house,” Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1790, had a “natural right to meet when and where it should think best.”
Nonetheless, the Framers also understood that the government must be able to meet exigent circumstances and therefore gave the president the very limited power to convene Congress “on extraordinary occasions.” Justice Joseph Story indicated in his Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States (1833) that the president’s need to conduct foreign relations effectively would be the primary motive for convening Congress. He gave as examples the need “to repel foreign aggressions, depredations, and direct hostilities; to provide adequate means to mitigate, or overcome unexpected calamities; to suppress insurrections; and to provide for innumerable other important exigencies, arising out of the intercourse and revolutions among nations.”
Beginning with John Adams in 1797, the president has convened both the House and the Senate twenty-seven times, normally for crises such as war, economic emergency, or critical legislation. In addition, the president has called the Senate to meet to confirm nominations. With the ratification of the Twentieth Amendment, which brought forward the date on which Congress convenes, and with the practice of Congress to remain in session twelve months out of the year, there is practically no need for the president to call extraordinary sessions anymore. President Harry S. Truman called the last special session on July 26, 1948.
Of course, even more important to the Framers was limiting the power of the executive to dissolve the legislature. They understood from English history that such power was among the quickest routes to tyranny. Under the Constitution, therefore, as Alexander Hamilton explained, “[t]he President can only adjourn the national Legislature in the single case of disagreement about the time of adjournment.” The Federalist No. 69. It is only an administrative power, one that the president has never had to exercise.

But he CAN exercise it in times where the Congress is abusing its power to technically remain in session and prevent appointments by the President while Congress is in recesss.

Trump should do this to force Congress to grow the hell up and do their damned jobs.

Look at it this way.

If Congress is in session and not handling his appointments, he can sit on every bill they push until all appointments are made.

The result of a standoff?

The best thing that can happen to Americans is for Congress to do nothing forever. Shut that bitch down and never open it again.