Trump is going to FORCE democrats to work! Or adjourn them!

Pro-forma sessions of Congress are a sham and a dereliction of duty. Trump is doing what he needs to get the job done. Congress has a choice-either come back to work and do your job, or you are adjourned.
Really?
I guess you missed that whole Supreme Court case which told Obama that he couldn't make recess appointments during Senate Pro-forma sessions.

Hmmm as i recall posters here at USMB actually said that Obama's recess appointments during pro-forma sessions were impeachable offenses.

But now that your Dear Leader is doing it.....suddenly you love them.
No, Trump is ENDING the session. Obama didn’t.
Learn the Constitution and events that occurred.
 
I sooooo hope he does it...then the people could see just how worthless and unnecessary congress and the senate are...
 
Trump Says He Will Use His Authority To Adjourn Both Houses of Congress
Apr 15, 2020 · TRUMP SAYS HE WILL USE HIS AUTHORITY TO ADJOURN BOTH CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS TO PAVE WAY FOR RECESS APPOINTMENTS OF ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS. What to Read Next. 42 Goods That Are in Higher Demand Than Ever During the Coronavirus Crisis.

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Can the president adjourn congress
Yes, the constitution gives the president the power to adjourn congress. However, this power can only be used when the upper and lower houses can not agree on a time to adjourn themselves.


I don't pay any attention to Don, he is in charge of nothing.

Thank you for all the work you do. But. Since one lone Confederate senator can hold an entire nation hostage, and has, and will continue to, by simply not bringing anything you propose to the floor of the senate even if it does pass the house, how does this, America, ever get any better? We just, as per America's typical response to any perturbation is, redistributed evermore societal wealth, yet again, to our aristocracy which is really our government. We are ruled over by a predatory cabal of concentrated wealth. And the Democratic Party's muted feckless oversight attempt on that bail out has already been circumvented.

Here's what we the people know. Our political class withheld what was coming (the COVID-19 pandemic) from we the people while they informed the donor class and the substantial people were getting their insider trading done sodomizing the 401K working and underclasses yet again. This system does not allow our representation, by design, and it was never meant to. Revisit the founding, America has never been intended to be for all of us, from day one. We are disposable. Too many of us with too little makes us dangerous, and capital does not want to hire us for what we can live on. "Illegals", impoverished third world labor, why even "communist" labor is preferable.

The system knew what it was doing. It seized upon an opportunity when it saw one. At this juncture, most especially with the inability for this system/this society to get both RT-qPCR and antibodies testing ramped up and tied to contact tracing to even be able to understand where we're at with the pandemic can only be considered willful.

Look at the demographics most negatively impacted and disappeared by COVID-19. Why would concentrated capital mind?

America's "progress" has always meant the "progress" of capital. It's simply time for another cleansing of the land mass.

Are you aware of where this society is at the moment?

There are no checks and/or balances on concentrated capital or corruption and the political system is an illusion as a mechanism by which to keep our society between the ditches. And rather obviously, our political class operates completely outside the law. We refused to pursue Ghislaine Maxwell rather than flush out more of our aristocracy's penchant for pedophilia and decades long patronization of Epstein's child sex trafficking ring. Odd how there was quite a bit of bipartisanship there.

We are a predatory late stage global militarist empire with a military presence in 70% of the nations on the planet as we support 73% of the world's dictators. We have militarized our police and "law enforcement"; utterly unnecessary unless power views the people as an enemy. We have the most expansive incarceration apparatus ever known to humankind; some of that a for profit enterprise with stocks traded on Wall Street. We have for profit concentration/internment camps for "illegals" that can be ramped up for any of us deemed a threat to power. We have millions of uninsured in our predatory for profit hellthcare system, who are being joined by millions more now since we've tied health insurance to employment; THE shittiest and most expensive healthcare system in the world among advanced post-industrial nations. On purpose, by design. In the middle of a pandemic.

"Neither" party has any intention of representing the people. The aristocracy has "two" political parties, the people have none. Your party is just as in the way of the will of the people as that "other" party is relative to single payer healthcare. Relax, Biden's already said he'd veto it. Pelosi's been in the way forever on this. Our American "way of life" has simply sentenced Americans to death in this pandemic. No amount of gaslighting can ever alter that reality. And endless circular blaming twitter fests are so everyone can escape any semblance of responsibility.

The system can't even deal with a clown like Don Trump and his corrupt incestuous kleptocratic kakistocracy.

Perhaps the founders were not such geniuses after all. Perhaps they were themselves merely one faction of a brutal genocidal aristocracy feuding with another.

One “american” value has always remained clear; capital over human lives, all day, every day.

Look around.
Just 5 more years to go!
 
Article II, Section 3, Clause 2;
...he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper;

What are the "extraordinary occasions" Trump can cite? What are the "disagreement
(s) between" the House and/or Senate that Trump could cite?

McConnell is getting things done on the same timelines as he has permitted over the last five or so years. Business is being conducted in the Senate per the rules of the Senate. If Trump doesn't like it, tough shit! The Orange Idiot has no Constitutional grounds to adjourn both Houses just to make recess appointments as he hopes to do! He's not a fucking King!

(Can we say Merrick Garland?)

Don’t you think it’s pathetic that you still reference the 2016 election as a way to “own the libs”? You can’t even handle defending republicans. All you have is the usual But Hillary! bullshit.


What's pathetic is you ficken loons whining for 3 years, and making shit up.

What did we make up? We didn’t write the article. This is Trump himself.
 
So he's gonna shut down Congress in the middle of a pandemic crisis, just so he can get his officials in without a vote? Trump is going further and further off the rails in his power grabs.
just as long as it MAGAs, who cares?

Whenever Obama made a policy that you conservatives didn't like, you said he was being a dictator.

Sorry, but with this latest move, Trump is working more like a dictator than Obama ever did. BTW, did you know that he's now putting his name and that it's his stimulus in the memo line of the checks? NEVER in my life have I ever seen that, and I've been a military brat, a military member, and am now a retired US Navy sailor. I've gotten government checks all my life, and this is the first time I've seen this. Apparently, Trump decided to put his name on the memo line, as that is the only place it can go, since Treasurers are the only ones authorized to sign checks.

Oh but it gets better- it appears that requiring Trump's name on the checks has delayed those checks being mailed out.

Because to Trump- no surprise to anyone- believes putting his name on the check- is more important than Americans getting the check.
Fake news. Stop watching CNN.

Monica Crowley
@TreasurySpox



Treasury spokesperson response to last night’s inaccurate and misleading Washington Post story:


View attachment 323894View attachment 323895

And I am sure millions of Americans hope that is actually true.

After all if you can't trust what the government tells you......


Our governance is in the hands of concentrated capital. It got its insider trading done while this was all still "a hoax".
 
Trump Says He Will Use His Authority To Adjourn Both Houses of Congress
Apr 15, 2020 · TRUMP SAYS HE WILL USE HIS AUTHORITY TO ADJOURN BOTH CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS TO PAVE WAY FOR RECESS APPOINTMENTS OF ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS. What to Read Next. 42 Goods That Are in Higher Demand Than Ever During the Coronavirus Crisis.

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Can the president adjourn congress
Yes, the constitution gives the president the power to adjourn congress. However, this power can only be used when the upper and lower houses can not agree on a time to adjourn themselves.
What date did the House and Senate decide to adjourn then?
GAME OVER
When has the Senate not agreed on a time to adjourn themselves?

I doubt your Dear Leader will do this- but if he does- I hope the Senate ignores him.

Let Trump take the Senate to court.
 
I sooooo hope he does it...then the people could see just how worthless and unnecessary congress and the senate are...

Thank you for all the work you do. But. Since one lone Confederate senator can hold an entire nation hostage, and has, and will continue to, by simply not bringing anything you propose to the floor of the senate even if it does pass the house, how does this, America, ever get any better? We just, as per America's typical response to any perturbation is, redistributed evermore societal wealth, yet again, to our aristocracy which is really our government. We are ruled over by a predatory cabal of concentrated wealth. And the Democratic Party's muted feckless oversight attempt on that bail out has already been circumvented.

Here's what we the people know. Our political class withheld what was coming (the COVID-19 pandemic) from we the people while they informed the donor class and the substantial people were getting their insider trading done sodomizing the 401K working and underclasses yet again. This system does not allow our representation, by design, and it was never meant to. Revisit the founding, America has never been intended to be for all of us, from day one. We are disposable. Too many of us with too little makes us dangerous, and capital does not want to hire us for what we can live on. "Illegals", impoverished third world labor, why even "communist" labor is preferable.

The system knew what it was doing. It seized upon an opportunity when it saw one. At this juncture, most especially with the inability for this system/this society to get both RT-qPCR and antibodies testing ramped up and tied to contact tracing to even be able to understand where we're at with the pandemic can only be considered willful.

Look at the demographics most negatively impacted and disappeared by COVID-19. Why would concentrated capital mind?

America's "progress" has always meant the "progress" of capital. It's simply time for another cleansing of the land mass.

Are you aware of where this society is at the moment?

There are no checks and/or balances on concentrated capital or corruption and the political system is an illusion as a mechanism by which to keep our society between the ditches. And rather obviously, our political class operates completely outside the law. We refused to pursue Ghislaine Maxwell rather than flush out more of our aristocracy's penchant for pedophilia and decades long patronization of Epstein's child sex trafficking ring. Odd how there was quite a bit of bipartisanship there.

We are a predatory late stage global militarist empire with a military presence in 70% of the nations on the planet as we support 73% of the world's dictators. We have militarized our police and "law enforcement"; utterly unnecessary unless power views the people as an enemy. We have the most expansive incarceration apparatus ever known to humankind; some of that a for profit enterprise with stocks traded on Wall Street. We have for profit concentration/internment camps for "illegals" that can be ramped up for any of us deemed a threat to power. We have millions of uninsured in our predatory for profit hellthcare system, who are being joined by millions more now since we've tied health insurance to employment; THE shittiest and most expensive healthcare system in the world among advanced post-industrial nations. On purpose, by design. In the middle of a pandemic.

"Neither" party has any intention of representing the people. The aristocracy has "two" political parties, the people have none. Your party is just as in the way of the will of the people as that "other" party is relative to single payer healthcare. Relax, Biden's already said he'd veto it. Pelosi's been in the way forever on this. Our American "way of life" has simply sentenced Americans to death in this pandemic. No amount of gaslighting can ever alter that reality. And endless circular blaming twitter fests are so everyone can escape any semblance of responsibility.

The system can't even deal with a clown like Don Trump and his corrupt incestuous kleptocratic kakistocracy.

Perhaps the founders were not such geniuses after all. Perhaps they were themselves merely one faction of a brutal genocidal aristocracy feuding with another.

One “american” value has always remained clear; capital over human lives, all day, every day.

Look around.
 
I prefer adjourn them, get things passed

Not for nothing there dude, but I DID post the definition of adjournment, which means that Congress goes home. If Congress goes home, how in the hell are things going to get passed? They are at HOME not WORK.
Trump can push it through

If Congress is gone, there is nobody to pass laws. Trump can't push anything through, as he isn't part of the Congress which has the sole authority to create and pass laws. The only thing Trump can do is veto or sign them.
Well he can appoint anyone ,, do your jobs hack

You said you prefer adjournment, so things get passed. I then told you that Trump can't do anything other that approve or veto what Congress passes, and Congress is the ones who actually write the legislation. Then, someone else brought up recess appointments, but that isn't the same as getting things passed as it is up to Trump if they are in recess, so there isn't anything to get "passed". You screwed up, and are now trying to use something else as cover for your mistake. Sorry, but recess appointments and passing things are two different critters.

If you are having trouble remembering the conversation, hit the "click to expand" button.
You will see what happens.. sir there and shut up
 
If McConnell allows this power grab he's a bigger piece shit than even I thought he was.
How can it be a power grab if he has the authority to do so? Are you having a meltdown?
It is questionable that he has the authority to do it.
And frankly if he does- I hope both the House and the Senate ignore him.
Make Trump go to court to try to force the House and the Senate to adjourn.

The Supreme Court slapped down Obama when he tried to make recess appointments when the Senate said it was still in session. And I remember when you folk said Obama should be impeached for making those recess appointments.
I fully expect to see each and everyone of you applauding Trump for threatening to do far more than what Obama actually did.
Are you denying there’s a national emergency?
Are you claiming that a national emergency gives your Dear Leader the power to ignore the Constitution?
 
Trump Says He Will Use His Authority To Adjourn Both Houses of Congress
Apr 15, 2020 · TRUMP SAYS HE WILL USE HIS AUTHORITY TO ADJOURN BOTH CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS TO PAVE WAY FOR RECESS APPOINTMENTS OF ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS. What to Read Next. 42 Goods That Are in Higher Demand Than Ever During the Coronavirus Crisis.

~~~~~~~~~~~~​
Can the president adjourn congress
Yes, the constitution gives the president the power to adjourn congress. However, this power can only be used when the upper and lower houses can not agree on a time to adjourn themselves.
What date did the House and Senate decide to adjourn then?
GAME OVER
When has the Senate not agreed on a time to adjourn themselves?

I doubt your Dear Leader will do this- but if he does- I hope the Senate ignores him.

Let Trump take the Senate to court.
What’s the date of adjournment then?
I’ll wait, humming the Jeopardy theme song.
 
Trump Says He Will Use His Authority To Adjourn Both Houses of Congress
Apr 15, 2020 · TRUMP SAYS HE WILL USE HIS AUTHORITY TO ADJOURN BOTH CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS TO PAVE WAY FOR RECESS APPOINTMENTS OF ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS. What to Read Next. 42 Goods That Are in Higher Demand Than Ever During the Coronavirus Crisis.

~~~~~~~~~~~~​
Can the president adjourn congress
Yes, the constitution gives the president the power to adjourn congress. However, this power can only be used when the upper and lower houses can not agree on a time to adjourn themselves.
What date did the House and Senate decide to adjourn then?
GAME OVER
When has the Senate not agreed on a time to adjourn themselves?

I doubt your Dear Leader will do this- but if he does- I hope the Senate ignores him.

Let Trump take the Senate to court.
\

Ha ha ha, it's his ass sucking senate.
 
If McConnell allows this power grab he's a bigger piece shit than even I thought he was.
How can it be a power grab if he has the authority to do so? Are you having a meltdown?
It is questionable that he has the authority to do it.
And frankly if he does- I hope both the House and the Senate ignore him.
Make Trump go to court to try to force the House and the Senate to adjourn.

The Supreme Court slapped down Obama when he tried to make recess appointments when the Senate said it was still in session. And I remember when you folk said Obama should be impeached for making those recess appointments.
I fully expect to see each and everyone of you applauding Trump for threatening to do far more than what Obama actually did.
Are you denying there’s a national emergency?
Are you claiming that a national emergency gives your Dear Leader the power to ignore the Constitution?
That’s the US CONSTITUTION that says it.
 
Trump Says He Will Use His Authority To Adjourn Both Houses of Congress
Apr 15, 2020 · TRUMP SAYS HE WILL USE HIS AUTHORITY TO ADJOURN BOTH CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS TO PAVE WAY FOR RECESS APPOINTMENTS OF ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS. What to Read Next. 42 Goods That Are in Higher Demand Than Ever During the Coronavirus Crisis.

~~~~~~~~~~~~​
Can the president adjourn congress
Yes, the constitution gives the president the power to adjourn congress. However, this power can only be used when the upper and lower houses can not agree on a time to adjourn themselves.
What date did the House and Senate decide to adjourn then?
GAME OVER
When has the Senate not agreed on a time to adjourn themselves?

I doubt your Dear Leader will do this- but if he does- I hope the Senate ignores him.

Let Trump take the Senate to court.
What’s the date of adjournment then?
I’ll wait, humming the Jeopardy theme song.
What ever the donors dictate.
 
Ok tRumplings and all you other nut-jobs who have been talking about "the coming revolution", now is the time. The US will not tolerate dictators.
Trump has that power in the Constitution
Only in the rarest of circumstances:

Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution grants the President the power to "on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper."
 
If McConnell allows this power grab he's a bigger piece shit than even I thought he was.
How can it be a power grab if he has the authority to do so? Are you having a meltdown?
It is questionable that he has the authority to do it.
And frankly if he does- I hope both the House and the Senate ignore him.
Make Trump go to court to try to force the House and the Senate to adjourn.

The Supreme Court slapped down Obama when he tried to make recess appointments when the Senate said it was still in session. And I remember when you folk said Obama should be impeached for making those recess appointments.
I fully expect to see each and everyone of you applauding Trump for threatening to do far more than what Obama actually did.
Are you denying there’s a national emergency?
Are you claiming that a national emergency gives your Dear Leader the power to ignore the Constitution?
That’s the US CONSTITUTION that says it.

The US has paid no heed to it relative to war since WWII.
 
So he's gonna shut down Congress in the middle of a pandemic crisis, just so he can get his officials in without a vote? Trump is going further and further off the rails in his power grabs.
Be patient. Biden will reverse most of the bad acts of Impeached Trump.

Sanders endorsed Biden before Obama endorsed his own VP.
Contemplate that for awhile.

I find this so amusing- because we all knew that Obama was not going to endorse anyone until after the nomination process concluded. No one doubted Obama would endorse Biden if he ended up being the nominee- but we weren't sure Sanders would endorse him at all. Glad he did- now he needs to convince his followers to vote.
 
Funny how you applaud Trump for his circumventing the Constitution by relying on acting appointments- but denounced Obama for being dictatorial for his recess appointments
I may be wrong but I think its within his right to do so during a national crisis...the founders knew the parties would use a crisis like a war or pandemic to move their political agendas and neglect the people and that is what is happening....I support him doing this....
 
Congress has been dragging their heels when it comes to confirming Trump's appointees. Trump is tired of the constant obstructionary tactics and is threatening to adjourn both the House and the Senate if they don't get their act together. MAGA!

Not likely..the procedure is complex..and the political fallout...nuclear! I'm not too worried about it...just another waft of flatulence..from the Potomac. Then there's the fact that the precedent would come back to haunt the Republicans!

Could come back to haunt the Republicans? They already have that Trump stink all over them, and it won't be going away any time soon.
 
So he's gonna shut down Congress in the middle of a pandemic crisis, just so he can get his officials in without a vote? Trump is going further and further off the rails in his power grabs.
Why not have a vote?
 

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