Trump is hemorrhaging older voters

[lennypartiv]

The boomers are the ones cowering in their homes right now, all thanks to Trump's failed pandemic response (which is what happens when you disband your entire pandemic response team).

And you stupid Democrats don't realize what your lockdown will cost us. Social distancing is a great way to push us into a recession.

 

[White 6]

This is all about the left wing conspiracy to make Trump look bad.

They throw everything against the wall hoping something sticks. Unfortunately there are some simple minded people falling for the left's lies about Coronavirus.

No conspiracy. No secret. Trump was bad news from his early years. He was a Democrat supporting Democrats most of his life, but when it came to elective office, they wouldn't have him. They knew him. You should have picked someone else. It is out in the open. He has been weighed, measured and found wanting. At the moment he and his ilk want the people over 60 to pay for his next election with our lives, if that is what it will take to get the economy moving quicker. FK trump, he is bad for American and even a traitor to every American in his age group. That is why he is losing support of seniors. Joe Biden will be voted into the Presidency, come November. Get used to it.

Ill be voting for Trump. Biden has yet to exit his basement or pick a VP. The only policy of his that you like is that he is not Trump. You’re a troll.

As is your right. You calling me a troll is like the pot calling the kettle black. I will consider it as another example of the over exuberance of youth, kid.

Your only reason to vote for Biden is that he is not Trump. What should I call that? Do tell.

Voting in my own best interests and as I see the best interests of the country, without as much drama, less antagonism, better foreign policy and hopefully a better relationship between the different branches of government and departments is what I call it. I have learned everything seems to work out if you keep you $hit together, continue to work toward your personal goals and keep your enemies list very short. Worked for me.

Biden is an awful candidate. Democrat party is idiotic for pushing that loser.

I like him, so I'm voting Democrat this time. I'll Go With Joe in 2020! This was a non-paid political message recomending Joe Biden for President in 2020. I personally approve this message.

I like Tom Hanks movies. If he runs I ll vote For him...same logic.

Actually I had no idea that Tom was: an American politician who served as the 47th vice president of the United States from 2009 to 2017 and represented Delaware in the U.S. Senate from 1973 to 2009. A member of the Democratic Party, Biden is the presumptive Democratic nominee for president in the 2020 election. He unsuccessfully sought the Democratic presidential nomination in 1988 and in 2008.
Or that Tom: studied at the University of Delaware before receiving his law degree from Syracuse University.[2] He became a lawyer in 1969 and was elected to the New Castle County Council in 1970. He was elected to the U.S. Senate from Delaware in 1972 when he became the sixth-youngest senator in American history. Was reelected six times and was the fourth-most senior senator when he resigned to assume the vice presidency in 2009.[3]
As a senator, was a longtime member and eventually chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. He opposed the Gulf War in 1991 but advocated for U.S. and NATO intervention in the Bosnian War in 1994 and 1995, expanding NATO in the 1990s, and the 1999 bombing of Serbia during the Kosovo War. He argued and voted for the resolution authorizing the Iraq War in 2002 but opposed the surge of U.S. troops in 2007. He has also served as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, dealing with issues related to drug policy, crime prevention, and civil liberties, as well as the contentious U.S. Supreme Court nominations of Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas. Biden led the efforts to pass the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act and the Violence Against Women Act.

Joe Biden - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I had no idea that Tom Hanks the actor (pretty smart guy and really really good actor) had these kinds of qualifications and thank you for the opportunity to bring it to the forefront. But, since Tom Hanks isn't running against trump this time I'll Go With Joe in 2020! This was a non-paid political message recommending Joe Biden for President in 2020. I personally approve this message.

 

[basquebromance]

The exuberance of the Make America Great Again base, even after a difficult year marred by drama, scandal, and turmoil, is clearly as strong as ever.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This doesn't pass the smell test. Old voters love Trump. This is what he did in 2016.

---Older voters (ages 65 and older) preferred Trump over Clinton 53%-45%---

Behind Trump’s victory: Divisions by race, gender, education

Donald Trump's win followed a campaign that revealed deep divisions that were as wide and in some cases wider than in previous elections.

www.pewresearch.org

Trouble is, he doesn't have a villain to run against. I almost voted for him, knowing he was a lying sleaze. Couple that with the fact that the whole country has heard him speak, tweet, lie, blame others for his problem (things most parents would not put up with from their kids) and now his handling of Covid-19 and uncaring attitude toward 30% plus of America (many of which voted for him, not wanting anything in particular but not wanting to be painted Un-American by the likes of him) which are fed up with his whole $hitshow. This might be what he is seeing in national polling as well as his internal polling that has upset him lately.

Uncaring? You have nothing to show for that!

Still haven't gotten that prescription refilled? It will help with the dementia.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The Boomers were Trump's base in 2016 that ultimately carried him over the edge in the key swing states. If he loses them, it's hard to see how he stands any chance whatsoever in getting reelected. There are simply too many headwinds facing his campaign. This election is looking more like 1932 than 2016.

Trump is hemorrhaging older voters, polls show

The latest Speed Read,/speed-reads,,speed-reads, breaking news, comment, reviews and features from the experts at The Week

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May 12

Trump still has a lead among older voters — but Biden is hoping to cut into it

Coronavirus has older adults concerned, but many are still supporting Trump.

www.vox.com

But he’s lost support in that age group. Bear in mind he won Pennsylvania and Michigan buy a razor thin margin. He can’t afford to lose anybody

No, I don't care to buy a razor thin margin.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This is all about the left wing conspiracy to make Trump look bad.

They throw everything against the wall hoping something sticks. Unfortunately there are some simple minded people falling for the left's lies about Coronavirus.

No conspiracy. No secret. Trump was bad news from his early years. He was a Democrat supporting Democrats most of his life, but when it came to elective office, they wouldn't have him. They knew him. You should have picked someone else. It is out in the open. He has been weighed, measured and found wanting. At the moment he and his ilk want the people over 60 to pay for his next election with our lives, if that is what it will take to get the economy moving quicker. FK trump, he is bad for American and even a traitor to every American in his age group. That is why he is losing support of seniors. Joe Biden will be voted into the Presidency, come November. Get used to it.

Ill be voting for Trump. Biden has yet to exit his basement or pick a VP. The only policy of his that you like is that he is not Trump. You’re a troll.

As is your right. You calling me a troll is like the pot calling the kettle black. I will consider it as another example of the over exuberance of youth, kid.

Your only reason to vote for Biden is that he is not Trump. What should I call that? Do tell.

Voting in my own best interests and as I see the best interests of the country, without as much drama, less antagonism, better foreign policy and hopefully a better relationship between the different branches of government and departments is what I call it. I have learned everything seems to work out if you keep you $hit together, continue to work toward your personal goals and keep your enemies list very short. Worked for me.

Biden is an awful candidate. Democrat party is idiotic for pushing that loser.

I like him, so I'm voting Democrat this time. I'll Go With Joe in 2020! This was a non-paid political message recomending Joe Biden for President in 2020. I personally approve this message.

I like Tom Hanks movies. If he runs I ll vote For him...same logic.

Actually I had no idea that Tom was: an American politician who served as the 47th vice president of the United States from 2009 to 2017 and represented Delaware in the U.S. Senate from 1973 to 2009. A member of the Democratic Party, Biden is the presumptive Democratic nominee for president in the 2020 election. He unsuccessfully sought the Democratic presidential nomination in 1988 and in 2008.
Or that Tom: studied at the University of Delaware before receiving his law degree from Syracuse University.[2] He became a lawyer in 1969 and was elected to the New Castle County Council in 1970. He was elected to the U.S. Senate from Delaware in 1972 when he became the sixth-youngest senator in American history. Was reelected six times and was the fourth-most senior senator when he resigned to assume the vice presidency in 2009.[3]
As a senator, was a longtime member and eventually chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. He opposed the Gulf War in 1991 but advocated for U.S. and NATO intervention in the Bosnian War in 1994 and 1995, expanding NATO in the 1990s, and the 1999 bombing of Serbia during the Kosovo War. He argued and voted for the resolution authorizing the Iraq War in 2002 but opposed the surge of U.S. troops in 2007. He has also served as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, dealing with issues related to drug policy, crime prevention, and civil liberties, as well as the contentious U.S. Supreme Court nominations of Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas. Biden led the efforts to pass the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act and the Violence Against Women Act.

Joe Biden - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I had no idea that Tom Hanks the actor (pretty smart guy and really really good actor) had these kinds of qualifications and thank you for the opportunity to bring it to the forefront. But, since Tom Hanks isn't running against trump this time I'll Go With Joe in 2020! This was a non-paid political message recommending Joe Biden for President in 2020. I personally approve this message.

In other words, Joe has never had a real job, has failed in every government job he was given, and has not accomplished a single thing which qualifies him as being President except taking a huge suction on Obama's nether orifice.

 

[L.K.Eder]

The Boomers were Trump's base in 2016 that ultimately carried him over the edge in the key swing states. If he loses them, it's hard to see how he stands any chance whatsoever in getting reelected. There are simply too many headwinds facing his campaign. This election is looking more like 1932 than 2016.

Trump is hemorrhaging older voters, polls show

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I think the following sign from a trump supporter sums up why old people are leaving trump in droves.

They see that trump and his younger supporters want to kill them with the virus just for money and trump reelection.

They see their friends dying in droves with trump doing nothing to stop it, in fact taking actions that will cause more to die, and worry if they will be next.

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does not look very healthy to me. is she offering a self-sacrifice?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Good for who?

For the protestors. Dang you are dense. What "dodge"? What is there to dodge? As i pointed out, you are a gullible moron who has been fooled by FOX News into thinking this is some sort of significant movement. You're wrong.

No I am not wrong. The actions be of the governor's that have ignored their taxpayers will pay a high price.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

When he says his morals are high come back and lets discuss your notes.

"I think I am a great moral leader..."

Donnie Dotard, 2018

See what happens when you talk out of your ass, like your cult leader does?

Yes donnie, we all want our children to rawdog porn stars while their spouses are at home with their newborn children. Quite the moral leader.

Specifically what has he done since being president has been immoral?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

This is all about the left wing conspiracy to make Trump look bad.

They throw everything against the wall hoping something sticks. Unfortunately there are some simple minded people falling for the left's lies about Coronavirus.

No conspiracy. No secret. Trump was bad news from his early years. He was a Democrat supporting Democrats most of his life, but when it came to elective office, they wouldn't have him. They knew him. You should have picked someone else. It is out in the open. He has been weighed, measured and found wanting. At the moment he and his ilk want the people over 60 to pay for his next election with our lives, if that is what it will take to get the economy moving quicker. FK trump, he is bad for American and even a traitor to every American in his age group. That is why he is losing support of seniors. Joe Biden will be voted into the Presidency, come November. Get used to it.

Ill be voting for Trump. Biden has yet to exit his basement or pick a VP. The only policy of his that you like is that he is not Trump. You’re a troll.

As is your right. You calling me a troll is like the pot calling the kettle black. I will consider it as another example of the over exuberance of youth, kid.

Your only reason to vote for Biden is that he is not Trump. What should I call that? Do tell.

Voting in my own best interests and as I see the best interests of the country, without as much drama, less antagonism, better foreign policy and hopefully a better relationship between the different branches of government and departments is what I call it. I have learned everything seems to work out if you keep you $hit together, continue to work toward your personal goals and keep your enemies list very short. Worked for me.

Biden is an awful candidate. Democrat party is idiotic for pushing that loser.

I like him, so I'm voting Democrat this time. I'll Go With Joe in 2020! This was a non-paid political message recomending Joe Biden for President in 2020. I personally approve this message.

I like Tom Hanks movies. If he runs I ll vote For him...same logic.

Actually I had no idea that Tom was: an American politician who served as the 47th vice president of the United States from 2009 to 2017 and represented Delaware in the U.S. Senate from 1973 to 2009. A member of the Democratic Party, Biden is the presumptive Democratic nominee for president in the 2020 election. He unsuccessfully sought the Democratic presidential nomination in 1988 and in 2008.
Or that Tom: studied at the University of Delaware before receiving his law degree from Syracuse University.[2] He became a lawyer in 1969 and was elected to the New Castle County Council in 1970. He was elected to the U.S. Senate from Delaware in 1972 when he became the sixth-youngest senator in American history. Was reelected six times and was the fourth-most senior senator when he resigned to assume the vice presidency in 2009.[3]
As a senator, was a longtime member and eventually chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. He opposed the Gulf War in 1991 but advocated for U.S. and NATO intervention in the Bosnian War in 1994 and 1995, expanding NATO in the 1990s, and the 1999 bombing of Serbia during the Kosovo War. He argued and voted for the resolution authorizing the Iraq War in 2002 but opposed the surge of U.S. troops in 2007. He has also served as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, dealing with issues related to drug policy, crime prevention, and civil liberties, as well as the contentious U.S. Supreme Court nominations of Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas. Biden led the efforts to pass the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act and the Violence Against Women Act.

Joe Biden - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I had no idea that Tom Hanks the actor (pretty smart guy and really really good actor) had these kinds of qualifications and thank you for the opportunity to bring it to the forefront. But, since Tom Hanks isn't running against trump this time I'll Go With Joe in 2020! This was a non-paid political message recommending Joe Biden for President in 2020. I personally approve this message.

I didnt See one accomplishment. “Helped” or “led efforts” doesn’t count as it’s BS. Name one accomplishment of his in his 40+ year political career. Even Obama had the stupid ACA. What has Biden done aside from being a longtime politician? I ll patiently await your answer.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The question is, how will Biden win the Rust Belt?

If they don't trust Trump they'll default to the alternative

If they don't trust Trump they'll default to the alternative

I think that trust ship has already sailed. Polling shows some 75% or more who believe we are opening too soon. Any fallout from this will rest soley with Trump.

I think you WISH that ship had already sailed, because you are ALWAYS trying to say, "Whoops, I have found this one thing that says everyone agrees with me, so the matter is settled forever!"

I think you're going to have to deal with the reality that people's opinions WILL change between now and the elections from the "Panic NOW, the world is ending and it's all Trump's fault!" misinformation you and your compatriots have been filling the airwaves with, once they see that you were - once again, and always - dead wrong.

It's not panic. It's a certainty that this virus is not gone. It will grow unchecked now that everything is opening and there is nothing in place to mitigate it's growth. In fact just the opposite. We are facilitating the spread by opening while cases are growing all over the country.
We'll be lucky if there is an election at all.


Conditions for the spread of the virus are
More favorable now then they were at the beginning when everything closed.

Only in America do we prioritize the quality of lifestyle over the lives of others.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You people will own the death toll.

And I'm sure you liberals will yap non-stop about the death toll as we approach the election.

And I'm sure you liberals will yap non-stop about the death toll as we approach the election.

Sure sounds like a "let them die" policy advocate.

Sure sounds like you think dismissing people as "let them die advocates" will save you from having to actually EARN the superiority you're trying to just claim.

I don't have to claim anything. The morality of my position is inherently superior.

When you have the morals of a cheating spouse you have no morals at all.

When you have the morals of a cheating spouse you have no morals at all.

Whatever TF that means.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The Boomers were Trump's base in 2016 that ultimately carried him over the edge in the key swing states. If he loses them, it's hard to see how he stands any chance whatsoever in getting reelected. There are simply too many headwinds facing his campaign. This election is looking more like 1932 than 2016.

Trump is hemorrhaging older voters, polls show

The latest Speed Read,/speed-reads,,speed-reads, breaking news, comment, reviews and features from the experts at The Week

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Yep. Once Trump embraced the "let them die" policy, quite a few Americans realized their interests were no longer represented.

One of your more stupid statements.

And that is saying a lot.

In what way(s) is it stupid?
Tell us about his testing, tracing and quarantine plans.

If you missed the post about who is dying where, you see that governors of the N.E. have truly fucked over their constitutents.

So that is why it is stupid.

It's about population density.

It's about more than that. Population density is very unhelpful, but that doesn't mean that asinine policies bear no blame at all.

It's about more than that. Population density is very unhelpful, but that doesn't mean that asinine policies bear no blame at all

Those "asinine policies" are reducing the rate of infection while its growing unchecked in the rest of the country.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The question is, how will Biden win the Rust Belt?

If they don't trust Trump they'll default to the alternative

Nope. Those who oppose Democrat tyranny might just say A pox on both their houses and not vote at all.

It is delusional wishful thinking to imagine that Biden's pathetic decline will be ignored.

Nope. Those who oppose Democrat tyranny might just say A pox on both their houses and not vote at all.

It is delusional wishful thinking to imagine that Biden's pathetic decline will be ignored.

Nope. I think most Americans would welcome the relief that would come from a quiet four years with a president who diligently goes about putting this country back together without fuss, fanfare or controversy.

Which has exactly what to do with your candidate or anyone on the left?

Which has exactly what to do with your candidate or anyone on the left?

They aren't Trump.

 

[bendog]

Are Older Voters Turning Away From Trump?

There are different “gaps” in American politics, but one that has consistently shown up in recent presidential elections is the age gap. That is, younger voters…

fivethirtyeight.com

Despite Trump's missteps, imo he'll still do well in rural Wis Mich and Pa with the older voters. I'm not saying the polls are wrong, but they seem to be national polls. But then again, who knows about Az and Fla. And Ohio

There is around one third of our population who could see trump murder someone on 5th avenue and they wouldn't have a problem with it.

In fact, they have no problem with all the people who have died from the virus and no problem with more dying. One of them actually put up a thread titled something like the people who are dying from the virus are the most unproductive. Using that as an excuse to not shutdown and take steps to stop the virus.

There are a lot of them on this board.

So no doubt those areas you listed will vote for trump. They'll vote for the devil himself if there's an R after his name.

That's true, but I was thinking more of older, formerly union, rust belt voters. I've no doubt that many of them are in the group who'd vote for Trump even if witnessed him commit murder. But I absolutely distinguish them from Trump's more white supremacist backers. Trump's embrace of racism and rejection of equal rights goes back the 1970s. That's different imo from people who responded to Trump's anti-free trade, and anti-forever war promises. I mean we have never really had "free" trade. Other countries subsidize products and sell them here. The union jobs aren't coming back, but that doesn't make everything Trump complained of false. And that formerly union blue collar vote is where the Army gets most of its recruits. And not all of them are white, either. Some of those Wis, Pa and Mich Trump voters voted for Obama.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The Boomers were Trump's base in 2016 that ultimately carried him over the edge in the key swing states. If he loses them, it's hard to see how he stands any chance whatsoever in getting reelected. There are simply too many headwinds facing his campaign. This election is looking more like 1932 than 2016.

Trump is hemorrhaging older voters, polls show

The latest Speed Read,/speed-reads,,speed-reads, breaking news, comment, reviews and features from the experts at The Week

theweek.com

Yep. Once Trump embraced the "let them die" policy, quite a few Americans realized their interests were no longer represented.

One of your more stupid statements.

And that is saying a lot.

In what way(s) is it stupid?
Tell us about his testing, tracing and quarantine plans. Tell us about any plan meant to keep at risk people safe.

2.2 Million were targeted for death.
President Trump has instituted policies that saved 95% of them.
Thank you President Trump

Which policies are those?
Leave it all up to the states?

A variety of policies to include not trampling on states rights.

Just like I thought. Nothing.
What do we do when states run out of money?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You people will own the death toll.

And I'm sure you liberals will yap non-stop about the death toll as we approach the election.

And I'm sure you liberals will yap non-stop about the death toll as we approach the election.

Sure sounds like a "let them die" policy advocate.

It doesn't

So do you. You're happy to let people die so you can maintain your lifestyle.

 

[Billiejeens]

The Boomers were Trump's base in 2016 that ultimately carried him over the edge in the key swing states. If he loses them, it's hard to see how he stands any chance whatsoever in getting reelected. There are simply too many headwinds facing his campaign. This election is looking more like 1932 than 2016.

Trump is hemorrhaging older voters, polls show

The latest Speed Read,/speed-reads,,speed-reads, breaking news, comment, reviews and features from the experts at The Week

theweek.com

Yep. Once Trump embraced the "let them die" policy, quite a few Americans realized their interests were no longer represented.

One of your more stupid statements.

And that is saying a lot.

In what way(s) is it stupid?
Tell us about his testing, tracing and quarantine plans. Tell us about any plan meant to keep at risk people safe.

2.2 Million were targeted for death.
President Trump has instituted policies that saved 95% of them.
Thank you President Trump

Which policies are those?
Leave it all up to the states?

A variety of policies to include not trampling on states rights.

Just like I thought. Nothing.
What do we do when states run out of money?

Is this in the right thread?

 

[Billiejeens]

You people will own the death toll.

And I'm sure you liberals will yap non-stop about the death toll as we approach the election.

And I'm sure you liberals will yap non-stop about the death toll as we approach the election.

Sure sounds like a "let them die" policy advocate.

It doesn't

So do you. You're happy to let people die so you can maintain your lifestyle.

Still doesn't sound like that, at all.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

This is all about the left wing conspiracy to make Trump look bad.

They throw everything against the wall hoping something sticks. Unfortunately there are some simple minded people falling for the left's lies about Coronavirus.

No conspiracy. No secret. Trump was bad news from his early years. He was a Democrat supporting Democrats most of his life, but when it came to elective office, they wouldn't have him. They knew him. You should have picked someone else. It is out in the open. He has been weighed, measured and found wanting. At the moment he and his ilk want the people over 60 to pay for his next election with our lives, if that is what it will take to get the economy moving quicker. FK trump, he is bad for American and even a traitor to every American in his age group. That is why he is losing support of seniors. Joe Biden will be voted into the Presidency, come November. Get used to it.

You need to lay off the drugs! People over 60 know that their Medicare and Social Security are safe with Trump but don't wan their funds spent on illegals, which is all the Dems are offering.

I don't do drugs. Who mentioned Medicare or Social Security? Safe with trump? One thing I know for sure, if you are dead you do not get to collect either. Take Kentucky for example. 7,935 cases total with the vast majority between the ages of 20 and 59 then the number of cases drops off, but of the 346 deaths (and that is a darn nice job in my book) from Covid-19 in the state of Kentucky, 316 have been people over 60. That is all but 30 of the 346 deaths in the entire state. It is similar all over the country, the young get them most case, but they give it the older generation who do the vast majority of the dying. Trumps theory is we need to get the economy going so everybody needs to get back to work, to support his economy. Fine for the under 60 crowd. It's not killing them much, but they spread it through interactions to mom, dad, grandma and granddad. The governor of that state is not in a big hurry to open up full blast. I think old people dying bothers him. The prevailing attitude of trump people, even on the right wing news stations, websites and this board included is older American should basically suck it up and take one for the gipper. I don't think trump gives a rat's but about older people or his followers would not be following his lead. I'll take my time and take precautions and you won't catch me dead in Georgia and Ohio, Texas, or Florida and I really like Florida. As those and other trump states to go back business as usual while their daily death tolls are appalling.

Hey shit for brains, our governor is a libtard DEMOCRAT. I have to travel for medical care. I just skip eating because my food is not available in many restaurants and those are all closed. The hotel I used for these stays almost went bankrupt. What makes you think I support the closure of the state? It cost my daughter and daughter-in-law their jobs for two months. My coworkers and I have not worked since March 23rd and no indication that will change.

Hey shit for brains, our governor is a libtard DEMOCRAT. I have to travel for medical care. I just skip eating because my food is not available in many restaurants and those are all closed. The hotel I used for these stays almost went bankrupt. What makes you think I support the closure of the state? It cost my daughter and daughter-in-law their jobs for two months. My coworkers and I have not worked since March 23rd and no indication that will change.

Your lifestyle takes a hit but you get to live.
That's not enough for you though.You want your lifestyle back at the cost of others lives.