The Derp
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I expect a retraction from you, but I doubt you will have the balls to do it.
So I don't see anyone there demanding Cruz release his birth certificate, do you?
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I expect a retraction from you, but I doubt you will have the balls to do it.
It is likely that the bakers did not share your view on the RIght of others to demand they bake a cake.
What view are we talking about here? The "view" that baking a cake for a gay wedding is somehow a violation of your religious liberty. But nowhere do you say how that is religious liberty. You just say it is because you know it's a bullshit reason. And furthermore, I thought the whole point of religion was that God forgives you. But now you're here saying God doesn't forgive you for baking a cake. So why would you worship a deity that doesn't forgive, let alone forgive for doing something so insignificant to that God? Square that circle, please.
Thus, that is not "knowingly".
Yes, it absolutely is. These people knowingly violated the civil rights of others because their God apparently doesn't forgive them for baking a cake.
Fucking stupid.
So, you excuse for your desire to throw your political enemies in jail is debunked.
I'm not going to list all the ideological reasons that what you claimed in moronic, because you know that what you said is moronic.
Sure, that is why you are spending page after page telling marty what he said about Obama's birth certificate, because you are sooooo ready to debate real issues.
I post my views, you post drivel that goes on and on and on.
More non-response responses.
The other 50% being you are a lame JoeB wanna-be, which is probably worse.
It does matter. the easiest solution is for the couple to find another baker.
They use street violence in coordination with local authorities and law enforcement to silence political opposition.
Now that's fucking funny.
Antifa coordinates with police departments to silence (?) opposition. I thought antifa hated police? That's what you all say. Now you're saying they coordinate with police? How do they do that, exactly? Can you give me an example? I doubt it.
One question; how is opposition (the fascists) silenced? Because we all saw that video of the cop standing by when that MAGA red hat Conservative pulled his gun on those protesters in Charlottesville.
You seemed to just equate all right wing ideology as nazi.
Would you like to clarify that?
You seemed to just equate all right wing ideology as nazi.
If the shoe fits...
Would you like to clarify that?
Sure:
Nazi = Conservative = Republican = Teabag = Klansman = "Libertarian"
Same shit, different polish.
it figures you are the type of person that attacks what you don't understand. It's part of your narcissism.
"Science". No what you do is use science as a crutch for your political views, and only when it suits your muddled understanding of said science.
See, you are a narcissistic prick, thanks for proving my point
Free exercise doesn't mean it gets locked inside. Deal with it you whiny little snowflake.
You spend a lot of words making it clear that you don't like Christianity.
Beyond that, it is likely that the bakers did not share your view that not baking a cake was a big rights violation.
THus, your standard of "knowingly" violating rights is not met.
Your views on religion are irrelevant to the... well to anything.
So, looking at that portion of your post, nothing in there addresses the fact that not only are their vast ideological differences between mainstream Right in America, and Nazi,
Marty says the issues is settled and you are spending pages telling him that it is not.
Time and time again, local Democrats elected officials or administrators, order police to stand down and let antifa attack people whom they wish to attack.
TThis was done at Charlottesville for example.
This has been extensively discussed on this site. It is not credible that this is the first time you have heard this.
You and yours are the modern day brown shirts.
That is incredibly stupid of you.
Incredibly.
Indeed, I don't cred it.
Stop your lying, you piece of shit.
BLM wants to kill white people ...they even stated itTime and time again, local Democrats elected officials or administrators, order police to stand down and let antifa attack people whom they wish to attack.
Bullshit.
TThis was done at Charlottesville for example.
The Charlottesville police stood by the night of the march when the Conservatives surrounded counter protesters with tiki torches and assaulted them. Oh, and one of you guys drive his car through a crowd of people, killing 1. Where were the police there?
This has been extensively discussed on this site. It is not credible that this is the first time you have heard this.
Conservatives lie. Can't trust 'em. They lie about everything, from wearing breadbags on their feet, to trickle-down and WMDs.
You and yours are the modern day brown shirts.
Anti-fascism wouldn't exist without fascism.
It's clear you either didn't read my post, didn't understand it, or do not know your history.
I don't care about the lengths you have to go to justify your bigotry. I really, really don't.
If you and your types keep carrying on the way your are, the national government will take your actions as an excuse to declare martial law, then you will see what real fascism looks like as they round up all Muslims and immigrants and put them in camps. If, at that point, Trump were thrown out of office and Pence is in charge, you can kiss good-bye all gay pride parade permits as well, COUNT ON THAT.
We already are in real fascism and we see it every day when the police kill minorities, round them up on "drug offenses" (after pumping those drugs into the those communities to begin with) and concentrate them in prisons (from which those same legislators profit) while also removing their rights to vote. So explain how that's not fascist, please.
And also, if you're saying that the current Conservative government would seek to use an incident in order to justify more fascism, then you're already admitting they're fascists. What do you think the Reichstag Fire was all about? Seriously, you say I need to learn history yet you don't even realize the stupid, contradictory shit you're saying. What a poser.
Do you even know what Dominionists are?This is all I meant about triggering an "Enabling act" like situation with your reasoning.
These people don't need an enabling act in order to justify fascism. For one, we already live in a fascist state and for two, they can just manufacture a crisis all on their own, like the Nazis did when they set the Reichstag ablaze 75 years ago. So if antifa doesn't give them a reason, they'll just create one on their own. Just like their predecessors did in 1930's Germany. That's why we can't even let them get that far, and why we should exterminate Nazis today the same way we exterminated them 80 years ago.
This is what the Deep State is pushing for, and you are helping them right along. I suggest you look into how elites program and manage the Hegelian Dialectic. You are being mentally programmed by the MSM and social networking sites which are run by private and state Intel. Wake the F up man.
LOL! Fuck you, you Nazi piece of shit. So we aren't supposed to take action against fascists because then the fascists will use that as an excuse to continue being fascists. Fucking idiot. Do you listen to yourself?
This is how your political identification is for your view points, when it comes to your so-called "paradox of tolerance." IOW, get the fuck over yourself before you are the cause of having our open society closed down. You are the ones they refer to as useful idiots, thanks for that.
Open society!? Huh? You realize fascists don't believe in an open society, right? They believe in an authoritarian society. That's why they're fascists. So if we aren't to punch and kill Nazis, what are we supposed to do?
The question was actually also brought up about McCain because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone. a review of law saw it was considered american soil, and thus he was eligible.
As for the rest, its just liking the sound of your own voice in your head as you type. There is a level of class in brevity that escapes you.
Trump was born in NYC, and there was never a question over it. Someone raised it about Obama and it was answered.
It is likely that the bakers did not share your view on the RIght of others to demand they bake a cake.
So, you excuse for your desire to throw your political enemies in jail is debunked.
I'm not going to list all the ideological reasons that what you claimed in moronic, because you know that what you said is moronic.
Sure, that is why you are spending page after page telling marty what he said about Obama's birth certificate, because you are sooooo ready to debate real issues.
BLM wants to kill white people ...they even stated it
‘ESPN on Tuesday issued a statement disavowing host Jemele Hill’s tweets calling President Donald Trump “a white supremacist,” “a bigot” and “unqualified and unfit to be president.”’
ESPN disavows Jemele Hill's tweets calling Donald Trump a 'white supremacist'
Trump is in fact a bigot – and although ‘qualified’ per the Constitution, Trump is indeed unfit to be president.
Of course the current government is fascist, but then, so was the last one
and the one before that, and the one before that, and I didn't see anyone doing anything about it or giving a damn.
The very nature of the ACA IS fascist, by definition.
Why do you think the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, (who was very conservative) ruled with the insurance industry on it's constitutionality? The very definition of fascism is corporations ruling hand in glove with government to usurp your rights. Do you know who is more fascist than Donald Trump? Yeah, that's right, Hillary Clinton. You should have seen some of the shit she said to the international banking cartel behind closed doors.
So I have used reason and logic with you, you have seen my analysis, and now you know that I am right.
Thus, you have called me a fascist. You don't like my analysis, because it defuses your political agenda
That is a recipe for repeating the conditions of the Spanish Civil War. IMO, that is insanity. Americans are better than that.
he truth is, it is the MSM, the establishment, the corportacracy, and the ruling elites that are the trouble, no one on this board or out in the heartland of America are your enemy. In fact, very few Americans really give that much of a damn about anything you are saying. I think if you knew the real truth about what is really going on, you would find that Trump is probably better to solve and combat everything you have been going on about, than Hillary ever would have been.
You're not talking about any social and cultural ramifications. All you're doing is working in service of your shitty ego. What were the cultural and social ramifications of not confronting and exterminating Nazis? WWII and the Holocaust.
Of course the current government is fascist, but then, so was the last one
How so?
and the one before that, and the one before that, and I didn't see anyone doing anything about it or giving a damn.
You're the ones who oppose public campaign financing which would remove money from politics and out of our government, REMEMBER??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
So again, this is another instance of a problem you caused that you complain about for no good reason than to feed your shitty ego.
The very nature of the ACA IS fascist, by definition.
No, it's not. Requiring people to buy health insurance isn't fascism...and they don't have to buy insurance if they don't want to. They just pay a fine. So you fail again. I know, I know, it's not surprising.
Why do you think the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, (who was very conservative) ruled with the insurance industry on it's constitutionality? The very definition of fascism is corporations ruling hand in glove with government to usurp your rights. Do you know who is more fascist than Donald Trump? Yeah, that's right, Hillary Clinton. You should have seen some of the shit she said to the international banking cartel behind closed doors.
Nope. Hillary is not more fascist than Trump. Trump is literally using his office to profit at the expense of taxpayers directly. That is fascism, not this imagined stretch you feel you have to make so you don't have to feel like shit for supporting and defending fascism. Pathetic. Get over yourself. Your ego isn't important.
So I have used reason and logic with you, you have seen my analysis, and now you know that I am right.
No, you haven't used any of those things. The reason is because it is literally impossible for someone like you to approach something with logic and reason because your entire belief system hinges on fantasy and faith, whether it's the faith in God or the faith that the wealthy will "trickle down" prosperity on everyone else if we cut their taxes, it's all faith nonetheless. Those who use faith as their guiding principle are the antithesis to logic and reason.
Thus, you have called me a fascist. You don't like my analysis, because it defuses your political agenda
No...in order to analyze something you have to first separate out that which is faith from that which is fact. You don't do that in anything you do. Hence, your post is masturbatory bullshit and boring. Oh, so fucking boring. Like, claw-my-eyes-out-I'd-rather-watch-Fast and Furious 8 level of boring. When someone says "using your logic" that's code for "I'm about to make a false argument using sophistry in order to avoid culpability for my shitty belief system".
That is a recipe for repeating the conditions of the Spanish Civil War. IMO, that is insanity. Americans are better than that.
That's where you're wrong. If this election taught us anything it's that Americans aren't good people. Americans are lazy.
he truth is, it is the MSM, the establishment, the corportacracy, and the ruling elites that are the trouble, no one on this board or out in the heartland of America are your enemy. In fact, very few Americans really give that much of a damn about anything you are saying. I think if you knew the real truth about what is really going on, you would find that Trump is probably better to solve and combat everything you have been going on about, than Hillary ever would have been.
The minute you use faith to justify bigotry, you become my enemy.