Trump On Woodward Tape Admitting To Lying About Seriousness Of Coronavirus

[Faun]

Trump held an indoor rally in Las Vegas, totally underestimating covid

Nevada governor: Trump ‘taking reckless and selfish actions’ in holding rally

Nevada Gov. Steve Sisolak (D) took aim at President Trump’s decision to hold an indoor rally in his state Sunday evening, accusing the president of taking “reckless and selfish actions&…

thehill.com

Underestimating what about Covid?

everything

Wow, specific answer. Fear the Flu right?

180K DEAD DEAD DEAD...they feel it

180K? We'll be over 200K any day now...

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

Another milestone for you to celebrate, huh?

Impeached Trump certainly doesn't care as much of that has to do with him lying to the American people about the danger of COVID-19 early on.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Yeah...I place great importance on politically biased articles intent on smearing candidates for office. (Rolls eyes)

You wrote those words LONG AFTER his OWN WORDS, his OWN VOICE, was made public.

He is NOT DENYING that he SAID them. He LIED.

And you're STILL trying this? You're definitely one of the sheepier Trump sheep here.

I challenge you to directly quote the alleged lie and provide a rational reasoned argument explaining how you came to the conclusion that it's a lie.

And I predict that you will run away from that challenge because you're a cowardly TDS afflicted moron.

Um, he admitted downplaying the virus when he knew it was worse. He admitted he still does. HE'S NOT DENYING HE SAID IT.

He said, quoting here: "I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down because I don’t want to create a panic."

Why are you denying this? Are you afraid to listen to the tape?

Tapes show Trump acknowledging coronavirus threat in February

Read the interactive transcript on Rev.com

www.rev.com

Those that died with COVID 19 was that the deciding factor of their death or was it because they had health issues and they died because of their poor health? Millions more catch COVID 19 but don't die from it

Dying with COVID 19 is not the same as dying because of COVID 19,
I heard that those who died from COVID 19 NUMBER WAS AROUND LESS THAN 9000

You heard the 9,000 from Qanon. Which is totally false. that is why Facebook took it down...... You don’t even know the science of Covid 19 and you are making that kind of nonsense. LOL..... . This is almost the same as you accused Kamala of slavery.

no I didn't

 

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'Play it down': Trump admits to concealing the true threat of coronavirus in new Woodward book

President Donald Trump admitted he knew weeks before the first confirmed US coronavirus death that the virus was dangerous, airborne, highly contagious and "more deadly than even your strenuous flus," and that he repeatedly played it down publicly, according to legendary journalist Bob Woodward...

www.cnn.com

There is nothing left to be said.

There's all kinds to be said.

Well if you think Trump lied then you must know Pelousy told one and all not to worry. The virus was nothing and they should all enjoy the Chinese New Year. I'd bet you also know she called Trump a racist when he tried to stop flights into the us to stop the spread of the virus.

Hypocrite your name is Penelope.

No she did, but tramp is a racist. That is because she was unaware what Tramp knew.

Trump isn't a racist and never has been. That's another nugget of foolishness you bought into.

She sure knew what she knew. Don't worry about the virus. Its nothing. Enjoy the Chinese New year.

Hypocrite your name is Penelope.

holy crap.

he - along with daddy drumpf - literally was sued by the gov'ment for housing discrimination against 'c' oloreds .

Yet he was awarded the Ellis Island medal

so? that doesn't mean much. at all.

nice try though ... being sued for housing discrimination is ... uh.... racist.


' In the first year, "people were honored with the award for what they stood for more than what they did," Coca had said. Parks, for example, was honored for standing up to adversity. Trump’s recognition came from "doing well for the city of New York" through his business endeavors.'

If Your Time is short

• Trump won the Ellis Island Medal of Honor in 1986 for professional contributions that benefited New York City as a real estate developer, as well as for his German heritage.
• Parks and Ali, as well as other recipients of the award, won for different reasons.

See the sources for this fact-check
PolitiFact - Trump’s Ellis Island award in the 1980s was not for brotherhood or diversity

 

[kaz]

Bull shit, it's not that. You do hate him, you don't pity him, and you were doing it specifically to be condescending as an insult. That is what it is

lol .... like you know anything.

LOL!!!!

<psssst>

i pity you too.

You should pity hack partisans, like you

 

[jc456]

why don't you educate yourself b4 you spew nonsense & look like the poorly educated deplorable that donny loves long time

Irony

 

[playtime]

Bull shit, it's not that. You do hate him, you don't pity him, and you were doing it specifically to be condescending as an insult. That is what it is

lol .... like you know anything.

LOL!!!!

<psssst>

i pity you too.

You should pity hack partisans, like you

^^^

 

[playtime]

why don't you educate yourself b4 you spew nonsense & look like the poorly educated deplorable that donny loves long time

Irony

irony.

 

[charwin95]

So you're saying herd immunity works. But doesn't address the cause of death

When the lethality of the virus is 0.02% you can achieve herd immunity.
The lethality of the coronavirus was 100 times higher. At those levels achieving herd immunity means the death of millions, and not thousands.

So it's a matter of how many people you're willing to sacrafice, and how many are too many.

If you're willing to lose 25 million Americans, then go for herd immunity.

No here you go with bullshit. COVID 19 caused deaths are not above 10,000 remember they count any death as covid related if you have the virus regardless if the virus was the reason for your death.

The CDC currently puts the number of confirmed deaths at about 100,000. But even the “best estimate” 0.26% fatality rate is a significant overestimate because of how the CDC is counting deaths. The actual rate is fairly close to a recent bad year for the seasonal flu. And though public health officials have been transparent about how they are counting coronavirus deaths, the implications for calculating the infection fatality rate are not appreciated.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

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This is of course nonsense. The idea that people just so happen to die at the same time as having COVID in unrelated events is so overblown. I’m not saying it’s never happened, but the idea that it is anywhere near statistically significant is not supported by any actual data. Furthermore, it is counterbalanced by the undercounting since a number of people died of COVID out of hospital without testing.

No it's not nonsense when it's a fact. COVID 19 caused deaths are much lower than are reported.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

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There is no data to support it being “much lower”.

1. Medical examiners from Colorado to Michigan use the same definition. In Macomb and Oakland counties in Michigan, where most of the deaths in that state occurred, medical examiners classify any death as a coronavirus death when the postmortem test is positive. Even people who died in suicides and automobile accidents meet that definition.


2. Such expansive definitions are not due to rogue public health officials. The rules direct them to do this. “If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx recently noted.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

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You do know that your link is just a COMMENTARY overblown without specific data. If there’s any truthfulness to your link people could have come out and blow it out in the public........ Don’t you think

1. That’s totally hogwash BULLSHIT.
2. Of course that’s a 100% true but that doesn’t mean it’s a fake deaths. Hospitals don’t just willy nilly declared you dead because of Covid-19.

You are a believer of Qanon. A well known liar conspiracies. What that tells you about your opinion?

 

[jc456]

Obama set limits on CEO pay with TARP and the right raised holy hell about

Why wouldn’t they?

 

[jc456]

why don't you educate yourself b4 you spew nonsense & look like the poorly educated deplorable that donny loves long time

Irony

irony.

Yep, irony

 

[playtime]

why don't you educate yourself b4 you spew nonsense & look like the poorly educated deplorable that donny loves long time

Irony

irony.

Yep, irony

yep, sure is. thanx for admitting it was & you were.

 

[jc456]

1. That’s totally hogwash BULLSHIT.
2. Of course that’s a 100% true but that doesn’t mean it’s a fake deaths. Hospitals don’t just willy nilly declared you dead because of Covid

Sure they did, it was a directive from the cdc

 

[jc456]

why don't you educate yourself b4 you spew nonsense & look like the poorly educated deplorable that donny loves long time

Irony

irony.

Yep, irony

yep, sure is. thanx for admitting it was & you were.

Yep irony

 

[playtime]

why don't you educate yourself b4 you spew nonsense & look like the poorly educated deplorable that donny loves long time

Irony

irony.

Yep, irony

yep, sure is. thanx for admitting it was & you were.

Yep irony

i win.

 

[WTF19]

I absolutely agree with you that stupid is anyone who thinks Chinese virus refers to Chinese Americans.

Problem is that Trump has a LOT of stupid supporters out there. Trump knows it too.

And yet, you have shown zero evidence of anyone doing anything because Trump called it the China virus.

Keep digging.

at least 2000 reported cases.

2,120 hate incidents against Asian Americans reported during coronavirus pandemic

OMG, it includes online harassment. Talk about a fabricated statistic.

Most people had to stop wearing MAGA hats because of leftist hate, threats and intimidation. 2150 is a drop in the bucket to you people

the link within the link:

http://www.asianpacificpolicyandpla...ploads/Anti-China_Rhetoric_Report_6_17_20.pdf

So things like this:

" Some individuals yelled “Chinese, go back to your country!” then threw their soda at me from a moving vehicle in my neighborhood."

And violent leftists dumped water on Kat Timpf's head.

Leftists scream and intimidate people in restaurants, including chasing Sarah Huckabee Sanders and her family out. They wet after Mich Mcconnell.

Our life thanks to you violent idiots is that because of violent leftists, we look around in a restaurant or in public before speaking anything not left.

And you're worried about 2,000 psychos across the country who were psychos BEFORE the pandemic?

That you care about anyone's safety and security in this country at this time is a total joke. You're so worried about if you're Asian the tiny chance you run into a psycho. While that's our every day life living with people like you

Surely you understand the difference of speaking out against Mitch McConnell because they oppose the actions he’s taken as a Senator and screaming at random Asian people for something they have nothing to do with?

The fact that you conflate these is demonstrating your don’t really understand the issue.

Accosting people in public out with their families is entirely different than demonstrating on a public street. You'd be flipping out if it started happening to Democrats. But it doesn't. You're the intolerant and violent ones. That it's Trump supporters is yet another of your lies

I absolutely agree with you that stupid is anyone who thinks Chinese virus refers to Chinese Americans.

Problem is that Trump has a LOT of stupid supporters out there. Trump knows it too.

And yet, you have shown zero evidence of anyone doing anything because Trump called it the China virus.

Keep digging.

at least 2000 reported cases.

2,120 hate incidents against Asian Americans reported during coronavirus pandemic

OMG, it includes online harassment. Talk about a fabricated statistic.

Most people had to stop wearing MAGA hats because of leftist hate, threats and intimidation. 2150 is a drop in the bucket to you people

the link within the link:

http://www.asianpacificpolicyandpla...ploads/Anti-China_Rhetoric_Report_6_17_20.pdf

So things like this:

" Some individuals yelled “Chinese, go back to your country!” then threw their soda at me from a moving vehicle in my neighborhood."

And violent leftists dumped water on Kat Timpf's head.

Leftists scream and intimidate people in restaurants, including chasing Sarah Huckabee Sanders and her family out. They wet after Mich Mcconnell.

Our life thanks to you violent idiots is that because of violent leftists, we look around in a restaurant or in public before speaking anything not left.

And you're worried about 2,000 psychos across the country who were psychos BEFORE the pandemic?

That you care about anyone's safety and security in this country at this time is a total joke. You're so worried about if you're Asian the tiny chance you run into a psycho. While that's our every day life living with people like you

Surely you understand the difference of speaking out against Mitch McConnell because they oppose the actions he’s taken as a Senator and screaming at random Asian people for something they have nothing to do with?

The fact that you conflate these is demonstrating your don’t really understand the issue.

Accosting people in public out with their families is entirely different than demonstrating on a public street. You'd be flipping out if it started happening to Democrats. But it doesn't. You're the intolerant and violent ones. That it's Trump supporters is yet another of your lies.

Also, I agreed with you there are psychos. But 2,150 incidents across the country is pretty tiny. You haven't shown that's even up from the normal psychos, you haven't linked it to anything Trump said or any party.

OK, so 2,150 psychos harassed Asians. You have nothing more than that

I don’t support accosting anyone, but you do understand that Sanders being quietly asked to leave a restaurant by the owner because the owner felt deeply morally opposed to the specific actions she has taken is not accosting.

And this still is such a far cry from people screaming as random Asian individuals because of something they have nothing to do with.

Notice you ignore all the other cases of leftists screaming at people and only pick the one where it was just the restaurant owner who was the dick politicizing business.

And again, 2,150 psychos doesn't imply anything. You keep parroting that line as if you've established that it has anything to do with anything other than they are psychos and you haven't. And you haven't even shown it's beyond the normal amount of psychos.

I have a lot of Asians in my family who have been here for 50 years and none of them are the slightest bit worried.

On the other hand, just not being a leftist and being out in public means you keep your head low and you can't wear any red hat much less MAGA. But all those leftist psychos don't bother you, not at all. That while you melt down over a tiny number of incidents that mostly involve just being rude.

Your indignation is totally feigned.

Think about in the United States that Americans have to be careful of what we say in public because of leftists. In the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Ask Asians how often they are harassed. And ask non-leftists how often they are harassed. You will be shocked if you actually care, which I doubt.

At no time in my life have I ever been afraid to express my views in public. Until now. Bother you? At ALL?

You brought up Sanders, not me.

I know Asians who were afraid to be in public for fear of being accosted because they might be blamed for coronavirus. Doesn’t that bother you at all?

Sandars was one of a list that I brought up and you only addressed her. Which is what I said. What about that didn't you understand.

And you made up the Asians you know. Totally fabricated it

Because that was the only specific event you referenced. I cant respond to vague allusions of events that may or may not have happened. I can respond to one that you clearly mischaracterizing.

What makes you say I’m fabricating anything? Is it just because you don’t want to believe it? Is this part of your self defense programming?

Actually I mentioned Kat Timpf and Mitch McConnell. There was also Candice Owens and Charlie Kirk. I also mentioned the White House which refers to Rand Paul and other Republicans. Ted Cruz is another one.

What about Steve Scalise. Anything?

Then there was the kid in the fast food who had his MAGA hat taken off his head and soda dumped on him. The old man with a Maga hat harassed. And that ALL non leftists across the country other than in really conservative rural areas can't wear a maga hat and we always have to check our surroundings when we say anything not left.

Then there are our leftist family members who routinely bring up their hatred for Trump but get all huffy if you defend him because we're being political even though they brought it up.

Harassment and intimidation is now regular life for non-leftists in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and you're worried about something that is 1 200th the chance of being struck by lightning

So you’re allowed to be concerned about harassment and intimidation because of politics but Asians aren’t allowed to be concerned about harassment and intimidation because of coronavirus?

OMG you're stupid. AGAIN.

1) I said the ORDER OF MAGNITUDE is FAR HIGHER. Your intimidation is across the country. You raised something that is one 50th the chance of being struck by lightning.

2) The intimidation I'm talking about is BY YOUR SIDE, THE LEFT. You just raised psychos and couldn't tie it to anyone because they are psychos. No one in the main stream Trump supporters are harassing Asians or anyone else.

You're the violent leftists

1. Made this up. Entirely fabricated. Zero evidence to support this.

2. It’s by both sides. One of your psychos drove a car into a crowd killing one and maiming dozens. One of your psychos was mailing pipe bombs to every Democrat that Trump complained about. Threw of your psychos bombed a mosque in Minnesota after Trump attack Somali refugees. I think the people harassing Asians are right in the middle of Trump’s base. Easily misled and full of anger.

Youre chock full of double standards and rationalizations. There’s no penetrating your layers of defenses.

The crowds were in the middle of the street doofus....get out of the street, duh!

What does that have to do with a psychopath Trump lover mowing down innocent people with his car?

Well, if a person is driving their car, in the street, and a mob is in the street and attacking the car and person inside....hmmm. I believe I would keep driving too.

And you’d be serving a life sentence just like he is.

Of course, because its another Bizarro city run by Democrats where the mob is justice and the innocent bystander following the rules is the criminal. Easy to understand moron.

The jury determined that defense was not factual.

A jury of idiots who were out rioting.

LOLOL

That you think a jury which finds deliberately running pedestrians down with a vehicle is murder reveals more about you than you probably intended.

I think brainless morons who stand around in streets blocking traffic deserve whatever bumperburns they get. It proves you wackos have no business voting too stupid to move out of the road.

That you condone murder means nothing. Deliberately trying to run over pedestrians with a vehicle is murder in all 50 states. Which is why that Trump supporter is now in prison for life.

If I feel as though I or my family is in danger I am running you over. Sorry. We can discuss in court afterward.

Protests are legally peaceful once violent, anything goes.

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He was not in any such danger as he pulled onto that street.

I am speaking generally not for this person. Do you agree that if I or my family is in danger then I may drive over "peaceful protesters". Yes or no?

Dumbfuck, we're not talking about you or generalities. There are already self-defense laws that address that. We're talking about deplorables condoning the murder of Heather Heyer.

So you won't answer the question. LMAO.

I accept your surrender, moron.

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LOLOLOL

Dumbfuck, I answered your question. I pointed out there are self-defense laws which address your concerns. Have you also always been this stupid?

No you pointed to laws you didn't answer "Yes or No" that explicitly stated.


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ShortBus, those laws directly address your question.

I am asking for your opinion not laws. I believe going 55MPH on a highway is a stupid law. Are you too scared to give an opinion? Coward.

My opinion about that is based on the law. Your question was answered, ShortBus, even though you're too stupid to fathom that.

thats like the pot calling the kettle.....just saying

LOL

Is there a rightard here who can do better than, I'm rubber, you're glue?

You're a libber, afraid of the flu???

No. I've never even gotten a vaccine for it.

honestly, who gives 2 shits what you have ever done?

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, you should be asking yourself why you're so desperate for my attention.

That aside, I was asked a question and I answered it. You don't like it? TFB.

there is no way that i would ever allow something like you to be part of my life. so maybe you should ask yourself why you are the desperate one---that aside, you dont like my answer, TFB

 

[jc456]

why don't you educate yourself b4 you spew nonsense & look like the poorly educated deplorable that donny loves long time

Irony

irony.

Yep, irony

yep, sure is. thanx for admitting it was & you were.

Yep irony

i win.

Naw, peewee does it better

 

[playtime]

why don't you educate yourself b4 you spew nonsense & look like the poorly educated deplorable that donny loves long time

Irony

irony.

Yep, irony

yep, sure is. thanx for admitting it was & you were.

Yep irony

i win.

Naw, peewee does it better

i still won.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Of course its high now. Its because of the pandemic shit for brains.
Before the pandemic UE was the lowest it had been in 50 years. We had jobs all across the country. And a great economy. All with Trump at the helm. Voters know who they want at the helm and it ain't Biden.
Biden said the first thing he will do is raise taxes. You think voters will vote for that??

Eh, the economy was fine. 2.4% GDP growth was hardly great. Unemployment was low, but it was low when Trump took office and for a little lower. It wasn’t a miracle.

The economy never “took off” like Trump said it would as a result of his tax cuts. It just never happened. It did blow up the deficit and endanger entitlements, which is why we need to raise taxes again.

It halted corporate inversions, it sparked new business growth and of course increased wages. You're incorrect again.

Business investment went nowhere.

As investment continues to decline, the Trump tax cuts remain nothing but a handout to the rich

President Trump is likely to tout the benefits of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) during his annual State of the Union Address. The centerpiece of the TCJA was a corporate rate cut that proponents claimed would eventually trickle down to workers’ wages—boosting the average American...

www.epi.org

No significant effect on wages.

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The data doesn’t back you up.

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Okay.

And that has what to do with your prior claims being of dubious accuracy?

If you don't understand I'll gladly walk you through it, troll.

Yes, please walk me through it.

Do you know what the SBA is? Yes or no?

Yes.

So if there are fewer SBA loans and more direct bank loans. What does that mean to you?

Not much. What does it mean to you?

It means that Banks are willing to take more risk because they see the economy as stronger and don’t need SBA guarantees that are expensive to the borrower. Hence the economy is stronger. It’s crazy that your vote is equivalent to mine. Sickens me.

So the economy “is stronger” because the banks “think it is”? This is not a good logic. Perception is not reality. Never has been. You’re basing your assessment on feelings, not facts.

Of course it is. OMG. Why do you think in 2009 the govt forced capital injections? If banks stop lending the economy sinks hence the PPP loans. Banks control our economy. You are very uninformed. I would Even say stupid. My goodness.

No, it’s not. Bubbles form all the time. Lending is not always directly tied to the strength of the economy, but sometimes based on a false perception.

Why do you have to act so nasty all the time? Can’t we just have a normal discussion? I really am trying here but you’re getting on my nerves and it’s like you’re trying to provoke me.

Because you’re trolling. It would be like me saying that doctors have no impact on how healthy a patient gets. Banks have a massive impact on the economy. Want to see it contract? Watch what happens if Biden wins. If you don’t want nastiness then please don’t troll.

What do you think trolling is and why do you think I'm trolling?

Banks absolutely have a massive impact in the economy, and I never said otherwise. This is another example of you misrepresenting my statement. You're making unjustified inferences by saying because the banks think the economy is better, then the economy is better. That's not reality. The economy may or may not be better because banks think it's better. There's examples where banks lent tons of money only to create asset bubbles, you know, like the massive one in 2008?

Furthermore, you claimed that Trump's tax cuts spurred business investment, and as I quickly showed, the data does not support that. You dropped that point like a hot potato before moving onto this much smaller point that you can't even defend when I point out the logical holes.

When did I say “tax cuts”? You look at charts. I live it in real life as this is what I do. Trump has been fantastic for corporate confidence.

 

[WTF19]

So you're saying herd immunity works. But doesn't address the cause of death

When the lethality of the virus is 0.02% you can achieve herd immunity.
The lethality of the coronavirus was 100 times higher. At those levels achieving herd immunity means the death of millions, and not thousands.

So it's a matter of how many people you're willing to sacrafice, and how many are too many.

If you're willing to lose 25 million Americans, then go for herd immunity.

No here you go with bullshit. COVID 19 caused deaths are not above 10,000 remember they count any death as covid related if you have the virus regardless if the virus was the reason for your death.

The CDC currently puts the number of confirmed deaths at about 100,000. But even the “best estimate” 0.26% fatality rate is a significant overestimate because of how the CDC is counting deaths. The actual rate is fairly close to a recent bad year for the seasonal flu. And though public health officials have been transparent about how they are counting coronavirus deaths, the implications for calculating the infection fatality rate are not appreciated.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

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This is of course nonsense. The idea that people just so happen to die at the same time as having COVID in unrelated events is so overblown. I’m not saying it’s never happened, but the idea that it is anywhere near statistically significant is not supported by any actual data. Furthermore, it is counterbalanced by the undercounting since a number of people died of COVID out of hospital without testing.

No it's not nonsense when it's a fact. COVID 19 caused deaths are much lower than are reported.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

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There is no data to support it being “much lower”.

1. Medical examiners from Colorado to Michigan use the same definition. In Macomb and Oakland counties in Michigan, where most of the deaths in that state occurred, medical examiners classify any death as a coronavirus death when the postmortem test is positive. Even people who died in suicides and automobile accidents meet that definition.


2. Such expansive definitions are not due to rogue public health officials. The rules direct them to do this. “If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx recently noted.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

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You do know that your link is just a COMMENTARY overblown without specific data. If there’s any truthfulness to your link people could have come out and blow it out in the public........ Don’t you think

1. That’s totally hogwash BULLSHIT.
2. Of course that’s a 100% true but that doesn’t mean it’s a fake deaths. Hospitals don’t just willy nilly declared you dead because of Covid-19.

You are a believer of Qanon. A well known liar conspiracies. What that tells you about your opinion?

and you are a member of the demoncrats--a well known group of retards that practice lying, greed, and bring AMERICA down mentality...congrats---not

 

[Mac1958]

why don't you educate yourself b4 you spew nonsense & look like the poorly educated deplorable that donny loves long time

Irony

irony.

Yep, irony

yep, sure is. thanx for admitting it was & you were.

Yep irony

i win.

You've found a way to communicate at their level!

Kudos!