Trump On Woodward Tape Admitting To Lying About Seriousness Of Coronavirus

[colfax_m]

Again, I do this for a living. Why would you question me on it? Would you question a brain surgeon on how to do brain surgery? It is honestly insulting. Stop your trolling.

Don’t be so defensive.

What you’re posting is data from 130 companies and ends in 2018. You don’t mention this because it doesn’t help your case. Much of growth in CAPEX comes from a handful of companies, focused in technology. Not bad, but hardly the investment in the blue collar economy that was often touted.

When you zoom out for a more complete picture, there was extra grow in 2018, which basically ended in 2019. The overall growth contributed a minuscule amount to GDP growth.

What's Really Happening with the Trump Tax Cuts?

From an economic perspective, the focus on the increase in corporate dividends and buybacks is misplaced. Look instead at business investment.

www.aei.org

So you take their opinion over mine. Duke undergrad, NU MBA.

This is hopeless.

I provided data and a specific rebuttal. You are only appearing to authority. If that MBA was worth anything, you might have a critique of my post.

Turns our I’m better at this than you. That’s one of the benefits of not being a Trump devotee. More objectivity and less “cheerleading”.

No. I provided specific data. You provided fuzzy math with an opinion piece.

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Your data also came from an opinion piece, not that you admitted it, you just presented it without context and without it an explanation of what you were posting. Not particularly honest. I found your source myself though, and was able to provide a critique, something you haven’t found yourself able to do yet.

Your data focused on a small subset of companies. Not the economy as a whole. I provided a better, wider view.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Of course its high now. Its because of the pandemic shit for brains.
Before the pandemic UE was the lowest it had been in 50 years. We had jobs all across the country. And a great economy. All with Trump at the helm. Voters know who they want at the helm and it ain't Biden.
Biden said the first thing he will do is raise taxes. You think voters will vote for that??

Eh, the economy was fine. 2.4% GDP growth was hardly great. Unemployment was low, but it was low when Trump took office and for a little lower. It wasn’t a miracle.

The economy never “took off” like Trump said it would as a result of his tax cuts. It just never happened. It did blow up the deficit and endanger entitlements, which is why we need to raise taxes again.

It halted corporate inversions, it sparked new business growth and of course increased wages. You're incorrect again.

Business investment went nowhere.

As investment continues to decline, the Trump tax cuts remain nothing but a handout to the rich

President Trump is likely to tout the benefits of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) during his annual State of the Union Address. The centerpiece of the TCJA was a corporate rate cut that proponents claimed would eventually trickle down to workers’ wages—boosting the average American...

www.epi.org

No significant effect on wages.

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The data doesn’t back you up.

Mainvest | Invest in Main Street. -- Formed under Trump helps a lot of small businesses


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Okay.

And that has what to do with your prior claims being of dubious accuracy?

If you don't understand I'll gladly walk you through it, troll.

Yes, please walk me through it.

Do you know what the SBA is? Yes or no?

Yes.

So if there are fewer SBA loans and more direct bank loans. What does that mean to you?

Not much. What does it mean to you?

It means that Banks are willing to take more risk because they see the economy as stronger and don’t need SBA guarantees that are expensive to the borrower. Hence the economy is stronger. It’s crazy that your vote is equivalent to mine. Sickens me.

So the economy “is stronger” because the banks “think it is”? This is not a good logic. Perception is not reality. Never has been. You’re basing your assessment on feelings, not facts.

Of course it is. OMG. Why do you think in 2009 the govt forced capital injections? If banks stop lending the economy sinks hence the PPP loans. Banks control our economy. You are very uninformed. I would Even say stupid. My goodness.

No, it’s not. Bubbles form all the time. Lending is not always directly tied to the strength of the economy, but sometimes based on a false perception.

Why do you have to act so nasty all the time? Can’t we just have a normal discussion? I really am trying here but you’re getting on my nerves and it’s like you’re trying to provoke me.

Because you’re trolling. It would be like me saying that doctors have no impact on how healthy a patient gets. Banks have a massive impact on the economy. Want to see it contract? Watch what happens if Biden wins. If you don’t want nastiness then please don’t troll.

What do you think trolling is and why do you think I'm trolling?

Banks absolutely have a massive impact in the economy, and I never said otherwise. This is another example of you misrepresenting my statement. You're making unjustified inferences by saying because the banks think the economy is better, then the economy is better. That's not reality. The economy may or may not be better because banks think it's better. There's examples where banks lent tons of money only to create asset bubbles, you know, like the massive one in 2008?

Furthermore, you claimed that Trump's tax cuts spurred business investment, and as I quickly showed, the data does not support that. You dropped that point like a hot potato before moving onto this much smaller point that you can't even defend when I point out the logical holes.

When did I say “tax cuts”? You look at charts. I live it in real life as this is what I do. Trump has been fantastic for corporate confidence.

It was the topic of my post that you replied to, so by context that's exactly what you were referring to.

Really, glad corporate confidence is good, but why would you want me to base my beliefs off of feelings rather than facts?

What facts? Because confidence spurns investment, job growth and lending. Cycles happen of course but a business friendly administration in Congress generally is positive for the economy. You should read Thomas Sowell.

Because the facts show business investment didn’t really change. I showed you these facts ages ago.

Fact is that politicians have a far smaller impact on the economy than anyone wants to admit, especially partisan political writers.

Except it did and they do. But you just keep looking up fake news media while I live it since it’s my business. With all due respect you know not what you’re talking about. My business had record years under Trump.

Problem is the data just doesn’t back up your feeling.

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Fixed investment growth is what exactly? I am talking CAPEX

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Again, I do this for a living. Why would you question me on it? Would you question a brain surgeon on how to do brain surgery? It is honestly insulting. Stop your trolling.

I like LATKA And btw dump thinks he's smarter than scientists Generals ,virus experts,lifetime experts in foreign affairs A real schmuck

He may be given the shit storms we are in. He is certainly smarter than you.

He's a better thief a great pervert , but smarter?? I doubt it . I'm smart enough to step back , maybe learn from those smarter than me. You can't teach me anything

I can teach you not to be a traitor to your ancestors. But you have to be willing to learn.

This traitor thing of yours goes to far .Way too far I'm Jewish BUT American first and last That doesn't make me a traitor

Ilhan Omar hates America and you support her. Democrats are saying America was built on racism. So you are a double traitor.

She's a Dem I vote a straight Dem ticket BTW when slavery was popular who do you think did all the building ? The white guy with a whip sitting on his porch?

White guys, black guys, Chinese guys. Slavery was only in the South but somehow the North was built. You're an idiot.

 

[eddiew]

I can teach you not to be a traitor to your ancestors. But you have to be willing to learn.

This traitor thing of yours goes to far .Way too far I'm Jewish BUT American first and last That doesn't make me a traitor

yet you're willing to work to illegally overthrow the duly elected president.

what would you call it if people got violent to get rid of obama?

For all the crap you folks throw at Obama he wasn't a complete misfit like Trump is . Trump has disgraced the office Anything else I have to say would just be repetition

You crossed into mindless repetition long, long ago Joe Biden. You know they offer night school for people who didn't learn to write in government schools the first time

I'm not a cunning Linguist like you kaz

 

[bravoactual]

The Lying Gutless Orange Draft Dodger shipped Seventeen Point EIght Tons (17.8 Tons) of PPE to China.

1.

US shipped donated masks, equipment to China in February

National shortages of masks, gowns and other personal protective equipment have exacerbated concerns that U.S. doctors a

www.politifact.com

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2. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/us-tons-ppe-china/.

3. Fact check: Did Donald Trump send 18 tonnes of PPE to China? - Republic World.

4. U.S. exported millions in masks and ventilators ahead of the coronavirus crisis.

5. U.S. Shipped Tons Of COVID-19 Supplies To China As Trump Dismissed Threat Here.

Certain Con on this forum posted their favorite emoji' (dislike and laughing) over this fact. The actually thought that Lying Gutless 5-Deferment Draft Dodging Coward sendingI PPE desperately needed by OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WAS FUNNY!!!

They actually disliked the fact that posted that Orange Shit Stain had sent PPE desperately needed by OUR FIRST RESPONDERS!!!

Newflash. It is NOT funny that at a time when our own FIRST RESPONDERS NEEDED PPE, IT WAS SENT TO CHINA. That is not a laughing matter and I do not give a flying fuck through a rolling donut whether you like that fact or not.

45 sent 17.8 Tons of PPE TO CHINA.

NOT EXACTLY A LAUGHING MATTER AT ALL!!

 

[kaz]

You crossed into mindless repetition long, long ago Joe Biden. You know they offer night school for people who didn't learn to write in government schools the first time

I'm not a cunning Linguist like you kaz

Sea cucumbers. Let me know if you want to have an actual discussion. You are required to speak English for me to participate

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Again, I do this for a living. Why would you question me on it? Would you question a brain surgeon on how to do brain surgery? It is honestly insulting. Stop your trolling.

Don’t be so defensive.

What you’re posting is data from 130 companies and ends in 2018. You don’t mention this because it doesn’t help your case. Much of growth in CAPEX comes from a handful of companies, focused in technology. Not bad, but hardly the investment in the blue collar economy that was often touted.

When you zoom out for a more complete picture, there was extra grow in 2018, which basically ended in 2019. The overall growth contributed a minuscule amount to GDP growth.

What's Really Happening with the Trump Tax Cuts?

From an economic perspective, the focus on the increase in corporate dividends and buybacks is misplaced. Look instead at business investment.

www.aei.org

So you take their opinion over mine. Duke undergrad, NU MBA.

This is hopeless.

I provided data and a specific rebuttal. You are only appearing to authority. If that MBA was worth anything, you might have a critique of my post.

Turns our I’m better at this than you. That’s one of the benefits of not being a Trump devotee. More objectivity and less “cheerleading”.

No. I provided specific data. You provided fuzzy math with an opinion piece.

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Your data also came from an opinion piece, not that you admitted it, you just presented it without context and without it an explanation of what you were posting. Not particularly honest. I found your source myself though, and was able to provide a critique, something you haven’t found yourself able to do yet.

Your data focused on a small subset of companies. Not the economy as a whole. I provided a better, wider view.

Nope. Mine cape from actual data that is tracked by IBanks and such. I am talking corporate confidence. That is all. It was higher under Trump and the chart below illustrates as such. You don't know what CAPEX is. You don't know much about anything with corporate finance. But you find obscure articles that are embarrassing. I also never said "tax cuts" I said corporate confidence. But the tax cuts definitely helped in terms of wage growth and lowering unemployment.

 

[jc456]

I can teach you not to be a traitor to your ancestors. But you have to be willing to learn.

this

 

[bravoactual]

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Of course its high now. Its because of the pandemic shit for brains.
Before the pandemic UE was the lowest it had been in 50 years. We had jobs all across the country. And a great economy. All with Trump at the helm. Voters know who they want at the helm and it ain't Biden.
Biden said the first thing he will do is raise taxes. You think voters will vote for that??

Eh, the economy was fine. 2.4% GDP growth was hardly great. Unemployment was low, but it was low when Trump took office and for a little lower. It wasn’t a miracle.

The economy never “took off” like Trump said it would as a result of his tax cuts. It just never happened. It did blow up the deficit and endanger entitlements, which is why we need to raise taxes again.

It halted corporate inversions, it sparked new business growth and of course increased wages. You're incorrect again.

Business investment went nowhere.

As investment continues to decline, the Trump tax cuts remain nothing but a handout to the rich

President Trump is likely to tout the benefits of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) during his annual State of the Union Address. The centerpiece of the TCJA was a corporate rate cut that proponents claimed would eventually trickle down to workers’ wages—boosting the average American...

www.epi.org

No significant effect on wages.

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The data doesn’t back you up.

Mainvest | Invest in Main Street. -- Formed under Trump helps a lot of small businesses


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Okay.

And that has what to do with your prior claims being of dubious accuracy?

If you don't understand I'll gladly walk you through it, troll.

Yes, please walk me through it.

Do you know what the SBA is? Yes or no?

Yes.

So if there are fewer SBA loans and more direct bank loans. What does that mean to you?

Not much. What does it mean to you?

It means that Banks are willing to take more risk because they see the economy as stronger and don’t need SBA guarantees that are expensive to the borrower. Hence the economy is stronger. It’s crazy that your vote is equivalent to mine. Sickens me.

So the economy “is stronger” because the banks “think it is”? This is not a good logic. Perception is not reality. Never has been. You’re basing your assessment on feelings, not facts.

Of course it is. OMG. Why do you think in 2009 the govt forced capital injections? If banks stop lending the economy sinks hence the PPP loans. Banks control our economy. You are very uninformed. I would Even say stupid. My goodness.

No, it’s not. Bubbles form all the time. Lending is not always directly tied to the strength of the economy, but sometimes based on a false perception.

Why do you have to act so nasty all the time? Can’t we just have a normal discussion? I really am trying here but you’re getting on my nerves and it’s like you’re trying to provoke me.

Because you’re trolling. It would be like me saying that doctors have no impact on how healthy a patient gets. Banks have a massive impact on the economy. Want to see it contract? Watch what happens if Biden wins. If you don’t want nastiness then please don’t troll.

What do you think trolling is and why do you think I'm trolling?

Banks absolutely have a massive impact in the economy, and I never said otherwise. This is another example of you misrepresenting my statement. You're making unjustified inferences by saying because the banks think the economy is better, then the economy is better. That's not reality. The economy may or may not be better because banks think it's better. There's examples where banks lent tons of money only to create asset bubbles, you know, like the massive one in 2008?

Furthermore, you claimed that Trump's tax cuts spurred business investment, and as I quickly showed, the data does not support that. You dropped that point like a hot potato before moving onto this much smaller point that you can't even defend when I point out the logical holes.

When did I say “tax cuts”? You look at charts. I live it in real life as this is what I do. Trump has been fantastic for corporate confidence.

It was the topic of my post that you replied to, so by context that's exactly what you were referring to.

Really, glad corporate confidence is good, but why would you want me to base my beliefs off of feelings rather than facts?

What facts? Because confidence spurns investment, job growth and lending. Cycles happen of course but a business friendly administration in Congress generally is positive for the economy. You should read Thomas Sowell.

Because the facts show business investment didn’t really change. I showed you these facts ages ago.

Fact is that politicians have a far smaller impact on the economy than anyone wants to admit, especially partisan political writers.

Except it did and they do. But you just keep looking up fake news media while I live it since it’s my business. With all due respect you know not what you’re talking about. My business had record years under Trump.

Problem is the data just doesn’t back up your feeling.

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Again, I do this for a living. Why would you question me on it? Would you question a brain surgeon on how to do brain surgery? It is honestly insulting. Stop your trolling.

I like LATKA And btw dump thinks he's smarter than scientists Generals ,virus experts,lifetime experts in foreign affairs A real schmuck

He may be given the shit storms we are in. He is certainly smarter than you.

He's a better thief a great pervert , but smarter?? I doubt it . I'm smart enough to step back , maybe learn from those smarter than me. You can't teach me anything

A dried up dog turd laying on a sidewalk in MIssissippi at high noon in August is smarter than that Malignant Narcissistic Draft Dodging Coward.

 

[jbrownson0831]

The Lying Gutless Orange Draft Dodger shipped Seventeen Point EIght Tons (17.8 Tons) of PPE to China.

1.

US shipped donated masks, equipment to China in February

National shortages of masks, gowns and other personal protective equipment have exacerbated concerns that U.S. doctors a

www.politifact.com

.

2. Did the Trump Administration Send 18 Tons of PPE to China in Early 2020?.

3. Fact check: Did Donald Trump send 18 tonnes of PPE to China? - Republic World.

4. U.S. exported millions in masks and ventilators ahead of the coronavirus crisis.

5. U.S. Shipped Tons Of COVID-19 Supplies To China As Trump Dismissed Threat Here.

Certain Con on this forum posted their favorite emoji' (dislike and laughing) over this fact. The actually thought that Lying Gutless 5-Deferment Draft Dodging Coward sendingI PPE desperately needed by OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WAS FUNNY!!!

They actually disliked the fact that posted that Orange Shit Stain had sent PPE desperately needed by OUR FIRST RESPONDERS!!!

Newflash. It is NOT funny that at a time when our own FIRST RESPONDERS NEEDED PPE, IT WAS SENT TO CHINA. That is not a laughing matter and I do not give a flying fuck through a rolling donut whether you like that fact or not.

45 sent 17.8 Tons of PPE TO CHINA.

NOT EXACTLY A LAUGHING MATTER AT ALL!!

...and what did he get, another day older and deeper in debt.....

 

[Faun]

virus causing death unnecessarily to umpteen 1000's

explain

Explain ?? What are you ,,in 1st grade ? The POS was told how severe the disease is and then spread the BS that all was well Look it up,,, cu and the traitors later ,,Markets open

Flu severity......shut down the country for the flu.

You're brain-dead, con. The flu leads to an estimated 37K deaths in the U.S. on average each year and is seasonal. COVID-19 has led to an estimated 200,000 deaths so far and we're little more than half way through its first year.

And Faun has on his cheerleeding outfit and pom poms. Two hundred, how many more? How many more? Gimme a three, gimme a four, let's keep going! Yeah, death!

Blaming a virus on Trump is just butt stupid.

But in those same six months, there were roughly 450K abortions. So 200K is a nightmare and 450K is a choice. It's the disingenuous hack you are, boi girl

LOL

Poor, kazzing kaz. You're unhinged.

Faun: You're just kazzing your kazzest kazzingest kazzing kazz the kazzing kazzer kazzing your kazzing kazz kazzing kazz while you kazzer as the kazzest kazzing kazzer kazz.

Playground is your home. You spent your 15 years in middle school chanting that your classmates were gay, didn't you?

Yeah, little boi, I'm the one who's unhinged. You can't even write an adult post

^^^ still unhinged.

 

[kaz]

virus causing death unnecessarily to umpteen 1000's

explain

Explain ?? What are you ,,in 1st grade ? The POS was told how severe the disease is and then spread the BS that all was well Look it up,,, cu and the traitors later ,,Markets open

Flu severity......shut down the country for the flu.

You're brain-dead, con. The flu leads to an estimated 37K deaths in the U.S. on average each year and is seasonal. COVID-19 has led to an estimated 200,000 deaths so far and we're little more than half way through its first year.

And Faun has on his cheerleeding outfit and pom poms. Two hundred, how many more? How many more? Gimme a three, gimme a four, let's keep going! Yeah, death!

Blaming a virus on Trump is just butt stupid.

But in those same six months, there were roughly 450K abortions. So 200K is a nightmare and 450K is a choice. It's the disingenuous hack you are, boi girl

LOL

Poor, kazzing kaz. You're unhinged.

Faun: You're just kazzing your kazzest kazzingest kazzing kazz the kazzing kazzer kazzing your kazzing kazz kazzing kazz while you kazzer as the kazzest kazzing kazzer kazz.

Playground is your home. You spent your 15 years in middle school chanting that your classmates were gay, didn't you?

Yeah, little boi, I'm the one who's unhinged. You can't even write an adult post

^^^ still unhinged.

Faun: You're just kazzing your kazzest kazzingest kazzing kazz the kazzing kazzer kazzing your kazzing kazz kazzing kazz while you kazzer as the kazzest kazzing kazzer kazz.

^^^ still an eight year old playgrounder

 

[colfax_m]

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Of course its high now. Its because of the pandemic shit for brains.
Before the pandemic UE was the lowest it had been in 50 years. We had jobs all across the country. And a great economy. All with Trump at the helm. Voters know who they want at the helm and it ain't Biden.
Biden said the first thing he will do is raise taxes. You think voters will vote for that??

Eh, the economy was fine. 2.4% GDP growth was hardly great. Unemployment was low, but it was low when Trump took office and for a little lower. It wasn’t a miracle.

The economy never “took off” like Trump said it would as a result of his tax cuts. It just never happened. It did blow up the deficit and endanger entitlements, which is why we need to raise taxes again.

It halted corporate inversions, it sparked new business growth and of course increased wages. You're incorrect again.

Business investment went nowhere.

As investment continues to decline, the Trump tax cuts remain nothing but a handout to the rich

President Trump is likely to tout the benefits of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) during his annual State of the Union Address. The centerpiece of the TCJA was a corporate rate cut that proponents claimed would eventually trickle down to workers’ wages—boosting the average American...

www.epi.org

No significant effect on wages.

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Okay.

And that has what to do with your prior claims being of dubious accuracy?

If you don't understand I'll gladly walk you through it, troll.

Yes, please walk me through it.

Do you know what the SBA is? Yes or no?

Yes.

So if there are fewer SBA loans and more direct bank loans. What does that mean to you?

Not much. What does it mean to you?

It means that Banks are willing to take more risk because they see the economy as stronger and don’t need SBA guarantees that are expensive to the borrower. Hence the economy is stronger. It’s crazy that your vote is equivalent to mine. Sickens me.

So the economy “is stronger” because the banks “think it is”? This is not a good logic. Perception is not reality. Never has been. You’re basing your assessment on feelings, not facts.

Of course it is. OMG. Why do you think in 2009 the govt forced capital injections? If banks stop lending the economy sinks hence the PPP loans. Banks control our economy. You are very uninformed. I would Even say stupid. My goodness.

No, it’s not. Bubbles form all the time. Lending is not always directly tied to the strength of the economy, but sometimes based on a false perception.

Why do you have to act so nasty all the time? Can’t we just have a normal discussion? I really am trying here but you’re getting on my nerves and it’s like you’re trying to provoke me.

Because you’re trolling. It would be like me saying that doctors have no impact on how healthy a patient gets. Banks have a massive impact on the economy. Want to see it contract? Watch what happens if Biden wins. If you don’t want nastiness then please don’t troll.

What do you think trolling is and why do you think I'm trolling?

Banks absolutely have a massive impact in the economy, and I never said otherwise. This is another example of you misrepresenting my statement. You're making unjustified inferences by saying because the banks think the economy is better, then the economy is better. That's not reality. The economy may or may not be better because banks think it's better. There's examples where banks lent tons of money only to create asset bubbles, you know, like the massive one in 2008?

Furthermore, you claimed that Trump's tax cuts spurred business investment, and as I quickly showed, the data does not support that. You dropped that point like a hot potato before moving onto this much smaller point that you can't even defend when I point out the logical holes.

When did I say “tax cuts”? You look at charts. I live it in real life as this is what I do. Trump has been fantastic for corporate confidence.

It was the topic of my post that you replied to, so by context that's exactly what you were referring to.

Really, glad corporate confidence is good, but why would you want me to base my beliefs off of feelings rather than facts?

What facts? Because confidence spurns investment, job growth and lending. Cycles happen of course but a business friendly administration in Congress generally is positive for the economy. You should read Thomas Sowell.

Because the facts show business investment didn’t really change. I showed you these facts ages ago.

Fact is that politicians have a far smaller impact on the economy than anyone wants to admit, especially partisan political writers.

Except it did and they do. But you just keep looking up fake news media while I live it since it’s my business. With all due respect you know not what you’re talking about. My business had record years under Trump.

Problem is the data just doesn’t back up your feeling.

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Again, I do this for a living. Why would you question me on it? Would you question a brain surgeon on how to do brain surgery? It is honestly insulting. Stop your trolling.

I like LATKA And btw dump thinks he's smarter than scientists Generals ,virus experts,lifetime experts in foreign affairs A real schmuck

He may be given the shit storms we are in. He is certainly smarter than you.

He's a better thief a great pervert , but smarter?? I doubt it . I'm smart enough to step back , maybe learn from those smarter than me. You can't teach me anything

I can teach you not to be a traitor to your ancestors. But you have to be willing to learn.

This traitor thing of yours goes to far .Way too far I'm Jewish BUT American first and last That doesn't make me a traitor

yet you're willing to work to illegally overthrow the duly elected president.

what would you call it if people got violent to get rid of obama?

No one is illegally overthrowing the president. Can we all just stop with the hysterics?

can you stop saying you're not doing what you are doing?

you stop, i'll stop.

This reminds me of the softball episode of the Simpsons where Don Mattingly is kicked off because Burns tells him to shave off his sideburns , which he doesn’t have. Anyway, if you know, you know.

Tell us what exactly you’d like us to stop doing.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Of course its high now. Its because of the pandemic shit for brains.
Before the pandemic UE was the lowest it had been in 50 years. We had jobs all across the country. And a great economy. All with Trump at the helm. Voters know who they want at the helm and it ain't Biden.
Biden said the first thing he will do is raise taxes. You think voters will vote for that??

Eh, the economy was fine. 2.4% GDP growth was hardly great. Unemployment was low, but it was low when Trump took office and for a little lower. It wasn’t a miracle.

The economy never “took off” like Trump said it would as a result of his tax cuts. It just never happened. It did blow up the deficit and endanger entitlements, which is why we need to raise taxes again.

It halted corporate inversions, it sparked new business growth and of course increased wages. You're incorrect again.

Business investment went nowhere.

As investment continues to decline, the Trump tax cuts remain nothing but a handout to the rich

President Trump is likely to tout the benefits of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) during his annual State of the Union Address. The centerpiece of the TCJA was a corporate rate cut that proponents claimed would eventually trickle down to workers’ wages—boosting the average American...

www.epi.org

No significant effect on wages.

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The data doesn’t back you up.

Mainvest | Invest in Main Street. -- Formed under Trump helps a lot of small businesses


View attachment 388634

Okay.

And that has what to do with your prior claims being of dubious accuracy?

If you don't understand I'll gladly walk you through it, troll.

Yes, please walk me through it.

Do you know what the SBA is? Yes or no?

Yes.

So if there are fewer SBA loans and more direct bank loans. What does that mean to you?

Not much. What does it mean to you?

It means that Banks are willing to take more risk because they see the economy as stronger and don’t need SBA guarantees that are expensive to the borrower. Hence the economy is stronger. It’s crazy that your vote is equivalent to mine. Sickens me.

So the economy “is stronger” because the banks “think it is”? This is not a good logic. Perception is not reality. Never has been. You’re basing your assessment on feelings, not facts.

Of course it is. OMG. Why do you think in 2009 the govt forced capital injections? If banks stop lending the economy sinks hence the PPP loans. Banks control our economy. You are very uninformed. I would Even say stupid. My goodness.

No, it’s not. Bubbles form all the time. Lending is not always directly tied to the strength of the economy, but sometimes based on a false perception.

Why do you have to act so nasty all the time? Can’t we just have a normal discussion? I really am trying here but you’re getting on my nerves and it’s like you’re trying to provoke me.

Because you’re trolling. It would be like me saying that doctors have no impact on how healthy a patient gets. Banks have a massive impact on the economy. Want to see it contract? Watch what happens if Biden wins. If you don’t want nastiness then please don’t troll.

What do you think trolling is and why do you think I'm trolling?

Banks absolutely have a massive impact in the economy, and I never said otherwise. This is another example of you misrepresenting my statement. You're making unjustified inferences by saying because the banks think the economy is better, then the economy is better. That's not reality. The economy may or may not be better because banks think it's better. There's examples where banks lent tons of money only to create asset bubbles, you know, like the massive one in 2008?

Furthermore, you claimed that Trump's tax cuts spurred business investment, and as I quickly showed, the data does not support that. You dropped that point like a hot potato before moving onto this much smaller point that you can't even defend when I point out the logical holes.

When did I say “tax cuts”? You look at charts. I live it in real life as this is what I do. Trump has been fantastic for corporate confidence.

It was the topic of my post that you replied to, so by context that's exactly what you were referring to.

Really, glad corporate confidence is good, but why would you want me to base my beliefs off of feelings rather than facts?

What facts? Because confidence spurns investment, job growth and lending. Cycles happen of course but a business friendly administration in Congress generally is positive for the economy. You should read Thomas Sowell.

Because the facts show business investment didn’t really change. I showed you these facts ages ago.

Fact is that politicians have a far smaller impact on the economy than anyone wants to admit, especially partisan political writers.

Except it did and they do. But you just keep looking up fake news media while I live it since it’s my business. With all due respect you know not what you’re talking about. My business had record years under Trump.

Problem is the data just doesn’t back up your feeling.

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Again, I do this for a living. Why would you question me on it? Would you question a brain surgeon on how to do brain surgery? It is honestly insulting. Stop your trolling.

I like LATKA And btw dump thinks he's smarter than scientists Generals ,virus experts,lifetime experts in foreign affairs A real schmuck

He may be given the shit storms we are in. He is certainly smarter than you.

He's a better thief a great pervert , but smarter?? I doubt it . I'm smart enough to step back , maybe learn from those smarter than me. You can't teach me anything

A dried up dog turd laying on a sidewalk in MIssissippi at high noon in August is smarter than that Malignant Narcissistic Draft Dodging Coward.

Ooh there goes that blood pressure spiking up again from another TDS rant....

 

[jbrownson0831]

The Lying Gutless Orange Draft Dodger shipped Seventeen Point EIght Tons (17.8 Tons) of PPE to China.

1.

US shipped donated masks, equipment to China in February

National shortages of masks, gowns and other personal protective equipment have exacerbated concerns that U.S. doctors a

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2. Did the Trump Administration Send 18 Tons of PPE to China in Early 2020?.

3. Fact check: Did Donald Trump send 18 tonnes of PPE to China? - Republic World.

4. U.S. exported millions in masks and ventilators ahead of the coronavirus crisis.

5. U.S. Shipped Tons Of COVID-19 Supplies To China As Trump Dismissed Threat Here.

Certain Con on this forum posted their favorite emoji' (dislike and laughing) over this fact. The actually thought that Lying Gutless 5-Deferment Draft Dodging Coward sendingI PPE desperately needed by OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WAS FUNNY!!!

They actually disliked the fact that posted that Orange Shit Stain had sent PPE desperately needed by OUR FIRST RESPONDERS!!!

Newflash. It is NOT funny that at a time when our own FIRST RESPONDERS NEEDED PPE, IT WAS SENT TO CHINA. That is not a laughing matter and I do not give a flying fuck through a rolling donut whether you like that fact or not.

45 sent 17.8 Tons of PPE TO CHINA.

NOT EXACTLY A LAUGHING MATTER AT ALL!!

...and what did he get, another day older and deeper in debt.....

Sorry an old Tennessee Ernie Ford song....

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Again, I do this for a living. Why would you question me on it? Would you question a brain surgeon on how to do brain surgery? It is honestly insulting. Stop your trolling.

Don’t be so defensive.

What you’re posting is data from 130 companies and ends in 2018. You don’t mention this because it doesn’t help your case. Much of growth in CAPEX comes from a handful of companies, focused in technology. Not bad, but hardly the investment in the blue collar economy that was often touted.

When you zoom out for a more complete picture, there was extra grow in 2018, which basically ended in 2019. The overall growth contributed a minuscule amount to GDP growth.

What's Really Happening with the Trump Tax Cuts?

From an economic perspective, the focus on the increase in corporate dividends and buybacks is misplaced. Look instead at business investment.

www.aei.org

So you take their opinion over mine. Duke undergrad, NU MBA.

This is hopeless.

I provided data and a specific rebuttal. You are only appearing to authority. If that MBA was worth anything, you might have a critique of my post.

Turns our I’m better at this than you. That’s one of the benefits of not being a Trump devotee. More objectivity and less “cheerleading”.

No. I provided specific data. You provided fuzzy math with an opinion piece.

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Your data also came from an opinion piece, not that you admitted it, you just presented it without context and without it an explanation of what you were posting. Not particularly honest. I found your source myself though, and was able to provide a critique, something you haven’t found yourself able to do yet.

Your data focused on a small subset of companies. Not the economy as a whole. I provided a better, wider view.

What is a small subset? Mid Market is huge and you'll see the decline due to COVID. Again, you're wrong. Dead wrong here.

CAPEX Spending Accelerates as Middle-Market Confidence Continues to Soar - News | Equipment Finance Advisor

Middle market companies continued to hire during the last year and the strong employment growth is expected to continue over the next 12 months, according to the Q3 2017 Middle Market Indicator (MMI) released by the National Center for the Middle Market (NCMM). The MMI found that nearly half...

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Companies seen slashing capex 12% this year, deeper than in 2009: data

Big and mid-cap firms globally are expected to slash capital spending by an average 12% this year as they reel from the fallout of lockdowns and other measures imposed to rein in the coronavirus pandemic, analysts' estimates show.

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[meaner gene]

Yearly averages are not precise for sure, but to call them "bogus" is moronic.

Also, I used 450K for six months reflecting a drop from 2018 to 2019, I wasn't inflating the numbers.

Using 2019 numbers for what's happening in 2020 is completely idiotic. All the numbers since the coronavirus are turned on their heads.

Look at gasoline production / usage.

If people don't drive, they don't get into automobile accidents. And 50,000 a year gets cut in half.

This Week In Petroleum Gasoline Section - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Gasoline Production, Imports, Stocks, Supply, Prices by Grade and Sales Type, Retail City Average Prices, Data and Analysis from the Energy Information Administration.

www.eia.gov

 

[kaz]

Yearly averages are not precise for sure, but to call them "bogus" is moronic.

Also, I used 450K for six months reflecting a drop from 2018 to 2019, I wasn't inflating the numbers.

Using 2019 numbers for what's happening in 2020 is completely idiotic. All the numbers since the coronavirus are turned on their heads.


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Look at gasoline production / usage.

If people don't drive, they don't get into automobile accidents. And 50,000 a year gets cut in half.

This Week In Petroleum Gasoline Section - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Gasoline Production, Imports, Stocks, Supply, Prices by Grade and Sales Type, Retail City Average Prices, Data and Analysis from the Energy Information Administration.

www.eia.gov

What does gas have to do with abortions.

Again:

1) What is even your argument that abortions are down. People are home, you think they are having less sex?

2) What is the relevance of your argument. Running rate, abortions would be about 450K for six months. What difference would it make if abortions are down for ONE six month period (which you have no basis to claim)?

Democrats are OK with a run rate of about 500,000 abortions over six months, EVERY SIX MONTHS. And yet somehow 200K people mostly with medical conditions dying is a hyper melt down?

And also, blaming Trump for a virus is just butt stupid and hyper partisan to begin with.

What are you even arguing?

 

[jc456]

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Of course its high now. Its because of the pandemic shit for brains.
Before the pandemic UE was the lowest it had been in 50 years. We had jobs all across the country. And a great economy. All with Trump at the helm. Voters know who they want at the helm and it ain't Biden.
Biden said the first thing he will do is raise taxes. You think voters will vote for that??

Eh, the economy was fine. 2.4% GDP growth was hardly great. Unemployment was low, but it was low when Trump took office and for a little lower. It wasn’t a miracle.

The economy never “took off” like Trump said it would as a result of his tax cuts. It just never happened. It did blow up the deficit and endanger entitlements, which is why we need to raise taxes again.

It halted corporate inversions, it sparked new business growth and of course increased wages. You're incorrect again.

Business investment went nowhere.

As investment continues to decline, the Trump tax cuts remain nothing but a handout to the rich

President Trump is likely to tout the benefits of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) during his annual State of the Union Address. The centerpiece of the TCJA was a corporate rate cut that proponents claimed would eventually trickle down to workers’ wages—boosting the average American...

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No significant effect on wages.

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The data doesn’t back you up.

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Okay.

And that has what to do with your prior claims being of dubious accuracy?

If you don't understand I'll gladly walk you through it, troll.

Yes, please walk me through it.

Do you know what the SBA is? Yes or no?

Yes.

So if there are fewer SBA loans and more direct bank loans. What does that mean to you?

Not much. What does it mean to you?

It means that Banks are willing to take more risk because they see the economy as stronger and don’t need SBA guarantees that are expensive to the borrower. Hence the economy is stronger. It’s crazy that your vote is equivalent to mine. Sickens me.

So the economy “is stronger” because the banks “think it is”? This is not a good logic. Perception is not reality. Never has been. You’re basing your assessment on feelings, not facts.

Of course it is. OMG. Why do you think in 2009 the govt forced capital injections? If banks stop lending the economy sinks hence the PPP loans. Banks control our economy. You are very uninformed. I would Even say stupid. My goodness.

No, it’s not. Bubbles form all the time. Lending is not always directly tied to the strength of the economy, but sometimes based on a false perception.

Why do you have to act so nasty all the time? Can’t we just have a normal discussion? I really am trying here but you’re getting on my nerves and it’s like you’re trying to provoke me.

Because you’re trolling. It would be like me saying that doctors have no impact on how healthy a patient gets. Banks have a massive impact on the economy. Want to see it contract? Watch what happens if Biden wins. If you don’t want nastiness then please don’t troll.

What do you think trolling is and why do you think I'm trolling?

Banks absolutely have a massive impact in the economy, and I never said otherwise. This is another example of you misrepresenting my statement. You're making unjustified inferences by saying because the banks think the economy is better, then the economy is better. That's not reality. The economy may or may not be better because banks think it's better. There's examples where banks lent tons of money only to create asset bubbles, you know, like the massive one in 2008?

Furthermore, you claimed that Trump's tax cuts spurred business investment, and as I quickly showed, the data does not support that. You dropped that point like a hot potato before moving onto this much smaller point that you can't even defend when I point out the logical holes.

When did I say “tax cuts”? You look at charts. I live it in real life as this is what I do. Trump has been fantastic for corporate confidence.

It was the topic of my post that you replied to, so by context that's exactly what you were referring to.

Really, glad corporate confidence is good, but why would you want me to base my beliefs off of feelings rather than facts?

What facts? Because confidence spurns investment, job growth and lending. Cycles happen of course but a business friendly administration in Congress generally is positive for the economy. You should read Thomas Sowell.

Because the facts show business investment didn’t really change. I showed you these facts ages ago.

Fact is that politicians have a far smaller impact on the economy than anyone wants to admit, especially partisan political writers.

Except it did and they do. But you just keep looking up fake news media while I live it since it’s my business. With all due respect you know not what you’re talking about. My business had record years under Trump.

Problem is the data just doesn’t back up your feeling.

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Again, I do this for a living. Why would you question me on it? Would you question a brain surgeon on how to do brain surgery? It is honestly insulting. Stop your trolling.

I like LATKA And btw dump thinks he's smarter than scientists Generals ,virus experts,lifetime experts in foreign affairs A real schmuck

He may be given the shit storms we are in. He is certainly smarter than you.

He's a better thief a great pervert , but smarter?? I doubt it . I'm smart enough to step back , maybe learn from those smarter than me. You can't teach me anything

I can teach you not to be a traitor to your ancestors. But you have to be willing to learn.

This traitor thing of yours goes to far .Way too far I'm Jewish BUT American first and last That doesn't make me a traitor

Ilhan Omar hates America and you support her. Democrats are saying America was built on racism. So you are a double traitor.

every country on the planet was built by slave labor. I'm done with the slave this and that thing. that was the world. Monday morning QBs can all kiss my white mthr fking ass.

 

[Faun]

The Lying, Lowlife, Suck Sucking, Draft Doding Coward 45 deliberately LIED to the American People. He knew as far back as December 2019 how extremely dangerous COVID-19 was and he FUCKING LIED about it

I challenge you to directly quote the alleged lie and prove that it is a lie.

But of course you will run away from that challenge with your tail between your legs because you are a cowardly TDS afflicted moron.

"It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flus. ... This is more deadly. This is 5% versus 1%, and less than 1%. So this is deadly stuff." ~ Impeached Trump, 2.7.20

"This is a flu. This is like a flu. ... It’s a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we’ll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner." ~ Impeached Trump, 2.26.20

It's not the flu and it's far deadlier than the flu.

Bullshit. The Spanish flu was far deadlier.

Trump was 100% correct, you ignorant low IQ TDS afflicted moron.

LOL

Dumbfuck, Impeached Trump wasn't talking about the Spanish flu. He said it's like the "regular flu" which kills as many as 70,000 per year.

So he lied and you prove to be a moronic Trump fluffer.

He didn't lie, you moron. He was 100% correct. The science has proven Trump right and proven the TDS afflicted morons such as yourself wrong. As usual.

in public he said it's like the flu which kills between 25,000 and 69,000 per year.

It IS like the flu, you fucking moron.

Trump was 100% correct, as usual.

LOLOL

Dayum, there is nothing of his you won't swallow, is there? No, it's not like the flu. It's far deadlier. Which is what he told Woodward in private though he later lied to America.

This past seasonal flu killed as many as 62,000 people in the U.S. out of 56,000,000 cases.

That's a mortality rate of just 0.1%.

While COVID-19 killed 199,000 in the U.S. out of 6,749,289 cases.

That's a mortality rate of 2.9% nearly 30 times deadlier than the "regular flu."

That makes COVID-19

Not arguing for or against how lethal or not COVID is, but you do realize that it is likely that far, far, far more people have had COVID, likely as many or more than the 59 million you posted for the flu. Also, unlike the flu, COVID is likely listed as the cause of death much more frequently than the common flu due to the coding guidance issued by the CDC. If this is the case, which it is, the death rate for COVID is much smaller than 2.9%.

You're delusional. There is literally zero evidence there have been more than 59 million cases of COVID-19 in tbe U.S. Shit, that's more than double the known cases in the entire world and we comprise only about 4% of the population.

What does 94 million tests at about a 7.9% positive rate give you? The more tests you do the more cases you get is that not in your libber math classes at grade school? And the CDC and Penn State both have some evidence there are in fact many more cases.

It tells me you're a flaming imbecile.

a) 7.9% of 94 million is 7.4 million. 59,000,000 is more than 7 times that; still, nowhere near the figure DBA claimed is likely.

b) even worse for your idiocy, 7.9% positives of 94 million tests doesn't mean there are 7.4 million positive cases since many, if not most, people who test, test more than once. And even though that doesn't affect the number of tests taken, people who test positive still count as just one positive case, regardless of how many tests they take.

So its even a lower positive test percent, like 7.2%. The point is the virus has produced its own metrics no matter how many times people test and how positives are counted. 7.2% is a reduction from 8% and even higher numbers earlier when we didn't have testing. Remember when you wackos were complaining we didn't have tests and many more were infected, and then we got more testing to prove that and you whined because more tested positive? My point is that increased testing gives you more positive cases, what is your point?

LOLOL

From where did you get 7.2%? Did you just make that up?

Again grade school math....6,750,105 total cases into 92,893,134 tests....made up from Worldometer where they capture real numbers

So you did make it up.

Dumbfuck, again, many people who test positive get tested again. That in itself drastically increases your meaningless made up percentage.

Then factor in many of those who are tested, test negative. That increases your meaningless made up number even more.

And again, there is absolutely no evidence anywhere that there are at least 59,000,000 cases in the U.S..

None.

You trying to defend that idiocy exposes your chronic conservatitus.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Yearly averages are not precise for sure, but to call them "bogus" is moronic.

Also, I used 450K for six months reflecting a drop from 2018 to 2019, I wasn't inflating the numbers.

Using 2019 numbers for what's happening in 2020 is completely idiotic. All the numbers since the coronavirus are turned on their heads.


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Look at gasoline production / usage.

If people don't drive, they don't get into automobile accidents. And 50,000 a year gets cut in half.

This Week In Petroleum Gasoline Section - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Gasoline Production, Imports, Stocks, Supply, Prices by Grade and Sales Type, Retail City Average Prices, Data and Analysis from the Energy Information Administration.

www.eia.gov

So the leftyvirus is saving lives? Traffic down here sure seems just like it always was though.