Trump On Woodward Tape Admitting To Lying About Seriousness Of Coronavirus

[kaz]

What is even your argument that abortions are down. People are home, you think they are having less sex?

my guess is that intimacy has increased exponentially over the last six months.

Not among the top groups that get abortions. That would be women in college. And with the closing of in person classes, it makes getting pregnant using Tik-Tok really hard.

And so that addresses the point again ... how?

Are you saying Democrats no longer consider abortion a "choice" since that was my point?

 

[kaz]

What is even your argument that abortions are down. People are home, you think they are having less sex?

my guess is that intimacy has increased exponentially over the last six months.

I'm thinking the same

Not if you analyze the data.

https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/report_downloads/us-abortion-patients-table1.pdf

Look up the peak users of abortion, and it matches women in college. And they're now studying from home.

And now Democrats have changed their position on abortion, which is it's a choice? How have you done that? What is your new position on it since girls are not going to college?

 

[jbrownson0831]

The Lying, Lowlife, Suck Sucking, Draft Doding Coward 45 deliberately LIED to the American People. He knew as far back as December 2019 how extremely dangerous COVID-19 was and he FUCKING LIED about it

I challenge you to directly quote the alleged lie and prove that it is a lie.

But of course you will run away from that challenge with your tail between your legs because you are a cowardly TDS afflicted moron.

"It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flus. ... This is more deadly. This is 5% versus 1%, and less than 1%. So this is deadly stuff." ~ Impeached Trump, 2.7.20

"This is a flu. This is like a flu. ... It’s a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we’ll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner." ~ Impeached Trump, 2.26.20

It's not the flu and it's far deadlier than the flu.

Bullshit. The Spanish flu was far deadlier.

Trump was 100% correct, you ignorant low IQ TDS afflicted moron.

LOL

Dumbfuck, Impeached Trump wasn't talking about the Spanish flu. He said it's like the "regular flu" which kills as many as 70,000 per year.

So he lied and you prove to be a moronic Trump fluffer.

He didn't lie, you moron. He was 100% correct. The science has proven Trump right and proven the TDS afflicted morons such as yourself wrong. As usual.

in public he said it's like the flu which kills between 25,000 and 69,000 per year.

It IS like the flu, you fucking moron.

Trump was 100% correct, as usual.

LOLOL

Dayum, there is nothing of his you won't swallow, is there? No, it's not like the flu. It's far deadlier. Which is what he told Woodward in private though he later lied to America.

This past seasonal flu killed as many as 62,000 people in the U.S. out of 56,000,000 cases.

That's a mortality rate of just 0.1%.

While COVID-19 killed 199,000 in the U.S. out of 6,749,289 cases.

That's a mortality rate of 2.9% nearly 30 times deadlier than the "regular flu."

That makes COVID-19

Not arguing for or against how lethal or not COVID is, but you do realize that it is likely that far, far, far more people have had COVID, likely as many or more than the 59 million you posted for the flu. Also, unlike the flu, COVID is likely listed as the cause of death much more frequently than the common flu due to the coding guidance issued by the CDC. If this is the case, which it is, the death rate for COVID is much smaller than 2.9%.

You're delusional. There is literally zero evidence there have been more than 59 million cases of COVID-19 in tbe U.S. Shit, that's more than double the known cases in the entire world and we comprise only about 4% of the population.

What does 94 million tests at about a 7.9% positive rate give you? The more tests you do the more cases you get is that not in your libber math classes at grade school? And the CDC and Penn State both have some evidence there are in fact many more cases.

It tells me you're a flaming imbecile.

a) 7.9% of 94 million is 7.4 million. 59,000,000 is more than 7 times that; still, nowhere near the figure DBA claimed is likely.

b) even worse for your idiocy, 7.9% positives of 94 million tests doesn't mean there are 7.4 million positive cases since many, if not most, people who test, test more than once. And even though that doesn't affect the number of tests taken, people who test positive still count as just one positive case, regardless of how many tests they take.

So its even a lower positive test percent, like 7.2%. The point is the virus has produced its own metrics no matter how many times people test and how positives are counted. 7.2% is a reduction from 8% and even higher numbers earlier when we didn't have testing. Remember when you wackos were complaining we didn't have tests and many more were infected, and then we got more testing to prove that and you whined because more tested positive? My point is that increased testing gives you more positive cases, what is your point?

LOLOL

From where did you get 7.2%? Did you just make that up?

Again grade school math....6,750,105 total cases into 92,893,134 tests....made up from Worldometer where they capture real numbers

So you did make it up.

Dumbfuck, again, many people who test positive get tested again. That in itself drastically increases your meaningless made up percentage.

Then factor in many of those who are tested, test negative. That increases your meaningless made up number even more.

And again, there is absolutely no evidence anywhere that there are at least 59,000,000 cases in tbe U.S..

None.

You trying to defend that idiocy exposes your chronic conservatitus.

Again...and again.....simply pointing out to you the actual statistics and where they are....I know stats make your head hurt...if you don't want to know any actual metrics then at least stop making your own up. These are real numbers unlike anything you wackos preach.

LOL

You're not posting stats. You're dividing one figure into another to make up a percentage that doesn't actually reflect how many people actually have COVID-19 in your failed attempt to inflate the number of deaths.

Even sadder for you, the only reason you're even doing that is to fluff Trump.

Again, I am reporting and performing math on actual numbers. Try taking your head out of your pelosi for a while and seeing how accurate that is.

 

[meaner gene]

My argument was that Democrats consider 200K catastrohic while 450K abortions EVERY six months is a "choice."

Heart disease accounts for 1.5 M each year.
Most of that caused by life choices. The abortion numbers pale in comparison.

So what's your point?

 

[jbrownson0831]

My argument was that Democrats consider 200K catastrohic while 450K abortions EVERY six months is a "choice."

Heart disease accounts for 1.5 M each year.
Most of that caused by life choices. The abortion numbers pale in comparison.

So what's your point?

Let me try...that shutting down the country over the flu is ridiculous given all the other much worse things that can kill us.....

 

[meaner gene]

And my second point was how blaming Trump for a virus at all is your hate partisan absurd bull crap

It's not blaming Trump for the virus. It's blaming Trump for doing nothing during February to prepare for it.

It's like the ant and the grasshopper. And when the fire alarms went off in Rome, Trump took out his violin

 

[jbrownson0831]

And my second point was how blaming Trump for a virus at all is your hate partisan absurd bull crap

It's not blaming Trump for the virus. It's blaming Trump for doing nothing during February to prepare for it.

It's like the ant and the grasshopper. And when the fire alarms went off in Rome, Trump took out his violin

And Killer Cuomo did what, played the banjo??

 

[Faun]

pretty sure the pyrmids were built by slaves.

go ahead. tear 'em down.

LOL

Imbecile, read & learn...

https://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/01/12/egypt-new-find-shows-slaves-didnt-build-pyramids

 

[meaner gene]

pretty sure the pyrmids were built by slaves.

go ahead. tear 'em down.

Fun fact, pyramids were probably built by workers, not slaves.

https://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/01/12/egypt-new-find-shows-slaves-didnt-build-pyramids

More fun facts. They weren't built to store grain.

Just sayin'

 

[jbrownson0831]

pretty sure the pyrmids were built by slaves.

go ahead. tear 'em down.

LOL

Imbecile, read & learn...

https://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/01/12/egypt-new-find-shows-slaves-didnt-build-pyramids

This is the atheist version right? Did the Russians interfere or help build them??

 

[Faun]

Obama is a born Muslim with inherent hatred for America....

Look it up, daddy(well at least the one we think) a Muslim and so son born is Muslim by birth.

I was referencing your idiocy that being born Muslim means one has an inherhatred for America.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Obama is a born Muslim with inherent hatred for America....

Look it up, daddy(well at least the one we think) a Muslim and so son born is Muslim by birth.

I was referencing your idiocy that being born Muslim means one has an inherhatred for America.

That would be YOUR idiocy and not mine.

 

[Faun]

pretty sure the pyrmids were built by slaves.

go ahead. tear 'em down.

LOL

Imbecile, read & learn...

https://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/01/12/egypt-new-find-shows-slaves-didnt-build-pyramids

This is the atheist version right? Did the Russians interfere or help build them??

You know you could have found the answers to those questions in the article I posted. Why are conservatives so scared of education?

 

[jbrownson0831]

pretty sure the pyrmids were built by slaves.

go ahead. tear 'em down.

LOL

Imbecile, read & learn...

https://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/01/12/egypt-new-find-shows-slaves-didnt-build-pyramids

This is the atheist version right? Did the Russians interfere or help build them??

You know you could have found the answers to those questions in the article I posted. Why are conservatives so scared of education?

....answers in the wacko propaganda factory article I posted.....hahahahahahahahaha

 

[kaz]

My argument was that Democrats consider 200K catastrohic while 450K abortions EVERY six months is a "choice."

Heart disease accounts for 1.5 M each year.
Most of that caused by life choices. The abortion numbers pale in comparison.

So what's your point?

My point is what I said in pretty much every post in this discussion.

You hyperbolically melt down over less than 200K deaths a year. Yet abortion at 450K-500K average over the same time period is a "choice" to you. What didn't you understand about that?

I'm pro-choice, but I'm not melting down over covid, where most of the deaths also have complicating factors.

Not sure how you're hysterical about covid but not abortions or heart disease works in your favor, it works in mine.

And again, blaming Trump for a global virus is more vicious partisan hate politics by Democrats

 

[meaner gene]

Not among the top groups that get abortions. That would be women in college. And with the closing of in person classes, it makes getting pregnant using Tik-Tok really hard.

And so that addresses the point again ... how?

It shows that the ACTUAL data on abortions is that they're cut by up to half in 2020. Which actually puts them on par with the coronavirus.

Which is why I called your use of last years stats idiotic.

 

[jc456]

pound sand.

literally.

hahahahahahahah exactly

 

[kaz]

Not among the top groups that get abortions. That would be women in college. And with the closing of in person classes, it makes getting pregnant using Tik-Tok really hard.

And so that addresses the point again ... how?

It shows that the ACTUAL data on abortions is that they're cut by up to half in 2020. Which actually puts them on par with the coronavirus.

Which is why I called your use of last years stats idiotic.

So you're arguing now that Democrats are NOT OK with 450K abortions because over the last six months there were fewer abortions? That's just butt stupid.

Try to read this. My point is that Democrats consider 450K abortions which is based on the RUNNING RATE OF ABORTIONS EVERY SIX MONTHS is just a choice.

Unless you are arguing with me that Democrats are no longer OK with that, you aren't contradicting my argument.

Bickering over the number of abortions over the last six months DOES NOT ADDRESS MY ARGUMENT

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Of course its high now. Its because of the pandemic shit for brains.
Before the pandemic UE was the lowest it had been in 50 years. We had jobs all across the country. And a great economy. All with Trump at the helm. Voters know who they want at the helm and it ain't Biden.
Biden said the first thing he will do is raise taxes. You think voters will vote for that??

Eh, the economy was fine. 2.4% GDP growth was hardly great. Unemployment was low, but it was low when Trump took office and for a little lower. It wasn’t a miracle.

The economy never “took off” like Trump said it would as a result of his tax cuts. It just never happened. It did blow up the deficit and endanger entitlements, which is why we need to raise taxes again.

It halted corporate inversions, it sparked new business growth and of course increased wages. You're incorrect again.

Business investment went nowhere.

As investment continues to decline, the Trump tax cuts remain nothing but a handout to the rich

President Trump is likely to tout the benefits of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) during his annual State of the Union Address. The centerpiece of the TCJA was a corporate rate cut that proponents claimed would eventually trickle down to workers’ wages—boosting the average American...

www.epi.org

No significant effect on wages.

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The data doesn’t back you up.

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Okay.

And that has what to do with your prior claims being of dubious accuracy?

If you don't understand I'll gladly walk you through it, troll.

Yes, please walk me through it.

Do you know what the SBA is? Yes or no?

Yes.

So if there are fewer SBA loans and more direct bank loans. What does that mean to you?

Not much. What does it mean to you?

It means that Banks are willing to take more risk because they see the economy as stronger and don’t need SBA guarantees that are expensive to the borrower. Hence the economy is stronger. It’s crazy that your vote is equivalent to mine. Sickens me.

So the economy “is stronger” because the banks “think it is”? This is not a good logic. Perception is not reality. Never has been. You’re basing your assessment on feelings, not facts.

Of course it is. OMG. Why do you think in 2009 the govt forced capital injections? If banks stop lending the economy sinks hence the PPP loans. Banks control our economy. You are very uninformed. I would Even say stupid. My goodness.

No, it’s not. Bubbles form all the time. Lending is not always directly tied to the strength of the economy, but sometimes based on a false perception.

Why do you have to act so nasty all the time? Can’t we just have a normal discussion? I really am trying here but you’re getting on my nerves and it’s like you’re trying to provoke me.

Because you’re trolling. It would be like me saying that doctors have no impact on how healthy a patient gets. Banks have a massive impact on the economy. Want to see it contract? Watch what happens if Biden wins. If you don’t want nastiness then please don’t troll.

What do you think trolling is and why do you think I'm trolling?

Banks absolutely have a massive impact in the economy, and I never said otherwise. This is another example of you misrepresenting my statement. You're making unjustified inferences by saying because the banks think the economy is better, then the economy is better. That's not reality. The economy may or may not be better because banks think it's better. There's examples where banks lent tons of money only to create asset bubbles, you know, like the massive one in 2008?

Furthermore, you claimed that Trump's tax cuts spurred business investment, and as I quickly showed, the data does not support that. You dropped that point like a hot potato before moving onto this much smaller point that you can't even defend when I point out the logical holes.

When did I say “tax cuts”? You look at charts. I live it in real life as this is what I do. Trump has been fantastic for corporate confidence.

It was the topic of my post that you replied to, so by context that's exactly what you were referring to.

Really, glad corporate confidence is good, but why would you want me to base my beliefs off of feelings rather than facts?

What facts? Because confidence spurns investment, job growth and lending. Cycles happen of course but a business friendly administration in Congress generally is positive for the economy. You should read Thomas Sowell.

Because the facts show business investment didn’t really change. I showed you these facts ages ago.

Fact is that politicians have a far smaller impact on the economy than anyone wants to admit, especially partisan political writers.

Except it did and they do. But you just keep looking up fake news media while I live it since it’s my business. With all due respect you know not what you’re talking about. My business had record years under Trump.

Problem is the data just doesn’t back up your feeling.

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Fixed investment growth is what exactly? I am talking CAPEX

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Again, I do this for a living. Why would you question me on it? Would you question a brain surgeon on how to do brain surgery? It is honestly insulting. Stop your trolling.

I like LATKA And btw dump thinks he's smarter than scientists Generals ,virus experts,lifetime experts in foreign affairs A real schmuck

He may be given the shit storms we are in. He is certainly smarter than you.

He's a better thief a great pervert , but smarter?? I doubt it . I'm smart enough to step back , maybe learn from those smarter than me. You can't teach me anything

I can teach you not to be a traitor to your ancestors. But you have to be willing to learn.

This traitor thing of yours goes to far .Way too far I'm Jewish BUT American first and last That doesn't make me a traitor

Ilhan Omar hates America and you support her. Democrats are saying America was built on racism. So you are a double traitor.

every country on the planet was built by slave labor. I'm done with the slave this and that thing. that was the world. Monday morning QBs can all kiss my white mthr fking ass.

pretty sure the pyrmids were built by slaves.

go ahead. tear 'em down.

Fun fact, pyramids were probably built by workers, not slaves.

https://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/01/12/egypt-new-find-shows-slaves-didnt-build-pyramids

How can it be a fact when you said “probably” so you do not really know.

 

[Faun]

What does gas have to do with abortions.

The difference between current reality, and remembering the good old days.

Some states ruled abortions to be "elective surgery" and thus prevented them. There are no numbers available to see if the numbers were cut by a little or cut by a lot. But knowing we don't know, makes you an idiot to pretend last years numbers have anything to do with what happened in 2020.

If you look at the peak users of abortion, women 20-24, women with some college, women not married or cohabitation, zero prior births,

That concludes they're due to women in college, and with that switched to tele-learning, their need for abortions was cut dramatically

https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/report_downloads/us-abortion-patients-table1.pdf

You can analyze the data for yourself.

My argument was that Democrats consider 200K catastrohic while 450K abortions EVERY six months is a "choice." Your quibbling over how many abortions there were over the last six specific months doesn't change anything about my point, which is about your attitude. The exact number over the last six months doesn't change your double standard. Address the point.

And my second point was how blaming Trump for a virus at all is your hate partisan absurd bull crap

Kazzer, which position do you disagree with...?

• 200K deaths caused by a pandemic is a disaster

• 450K abortions were by choice