Trump On Woodward Tape Admitting To Lying About Seriousness Of Coronavirus

[AzogtheDefiler]

Again, I do this for a living. Why would you question me on it? Would you question a brain surgeon on how to do brain surgery? It is honestly insulting. Stop your trolling.

Don’t be so defensive.

What you’re posting is data from 130 companies and ends in 2018. You don’t mention this because it doesn’t help your case. Much of growth in CAPEX comes from a handful of companies, focused in technology. Not bad, but hardly the investment in the blue collar economy that was often touted.

When you zoom out for a more complete picture, there was extra grow in 2018, which basically ended in 2019. The overall growth contributed a minuscule amount to GDP growth.

What's Really Happening with the Trump Tax Cuts?

From an economic perspective, the focus on the increase in corporate dividends and buybacks is misplaced. Look instead at business investment.

www.aei.org

So you take their opinion over mine. Duke undergrad, NU MBA.

This is hopeless.

I provided data and a specific rebuttal. You are only appearing to authority. If that MBA was worth anything, you might have a critique of my post.

Turns our I’m better at this than you. That’s one of the benefits of not being a Trump devotee. More objectivity and less “cheerleading”.

No. I provided specific data. You provided fuzzy math with an opinion piece.

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Your data also came from an opinion piece, not that you admitted it, you just presented it without context and without it an explanation of what you were posting. Not particularly honest. I found your source myself though, and was able to provide a critique, something you haven’t found yourself able to do yet.

Your data focused on a small subset of companies. Not the economy as a whole. I provided a better, wider view.

Nope. Mine cape from actual data that is tracked by IBanks and such. I am talking corporate confidence. That is all. It was higher under Trump and the chart below illustrates as such. You don't know what CAPEX is. You don't know much about anything with corporate finance. But you find obscure articles that are embarrassing. I also never said "tax cuts" I said corporate confidence. But the tax cuts definitely helped in terms of wage growth and lowering unemployment.

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Corporate confidence, otherwise known as feelings. I was speaking in the real of facts and data.

Tax cuts and investment were the topic when you replied to me. Seems like you’re switching the subject because you got caught up in an argument you can’t win

AEI is hardly obscure and you’ve yet to critique the article despite calling it embarrassing. Why? We don’t know. You don’t say. I’d wager because you don’t have a critique.

As for helping with wage growth and unemployment, there was little deviation in those trends. Wages were growing about the same rate in 2016 as in 2018 and 2019. Unemployment was falling at roughly the same rate in 2016 as 2018. This is all speculative, and very little evidence to support it other than your feelings.

Amazing. You are hopeless. Roughly is not the same. It was lower. I gave You a ton of evidence. I am roughly correct.

 

[jc456]

And again, blaming Trump for a global virus is more vicious partisan hate politics by Democrats

they blame trump even though it's global, and then use how the globe handled the outbreak as the best way to handle it. can't make it up.

 

[meaner gene]

Let me try...that shutting down the country over the flu is ridiculous given all the other much worse things that can kill us.....

Is your point that we don't need the TSA. Since we lose more people from the coronavirus, than if terrorists hijacked and crashed a plane every day.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

What does gas have to do with abortions.

The difference between current reality, and remembering the good old days.

Some states ruled abortions to be "elective surgery" and thus prevented them. There are no numbers available to see if the numbers were cut by a little or cut by a lot. But knowing we don't know, makes you an idiot to pretend last years numbers have anything to do with what happened in 2020.

If you look at the peak users of abortion, women 20-24, women with some college, women not married or cohabitation, zero prior births,

That concludes they're due to women in college, and with that switched to tele-learning, their need for abortions was cut dramatically

https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/report_downloads/us-abortion-patients-table1.pdf

You can analyze the data for yourself.

My argument was that Democrats consider 200K catastrohic while 450K abortions EVERY six months is a "choice." Your quibbling over how many abortions there were over the last six specific months doesn't change anything about my point, which is about your attitude. The exact number over the last six months doesn't change your double standard. Address the point.

And my second point was how blaming Trump for a virus at all is your hate partisan absurd bull crap

Kazzer, which position do you disagree with...?

• 200K deaths caused by a pandemic is a disaster
• 450K abortions were by choice

Many of that 200k would have died anyway. I do Not believe the fake news media. I am pro choice but what is interesting is that if one kills a pregnant lady the crime is a double homicide.

 

[meaner gene]

And Killer Cuomo did what, played the banjo??

We went through this, Killer Trump (35,000) was responsible for the deaths in New York.

And the 3,500 you blamed on Cuomo, weren't coronavirus, because as you said, they were never tested, so probably died of natural causes.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Let me try...that shutting down the country over the flu is ridiculous given all the other much worse things that can kill us.....

Is your point that we don't need the TSA. Since we lose more people from the coronavirus, than if terrorists hijacked and crashed a plane every day.

Hmmm no don't think so. I was talking about the virus here, but as for terrorism you Dems are so desensitized to it you allow it to run rampant in your cities and cause unending crime while the leadership quivers in hiding...but probaably in hiding with their little masks on. The effects of terrorism are daily and not just from other countries.

 

[Faun]

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Of course its high now. Its because of the pandemic shit for brains.
Before the pandemic UE was the lowest it had been in 50 years. We had jobs all across the country. And a great economy. All with Trump at the helm. Voters know who they want at the helm and it ain't Biden.
Biden said the first thing he will do is raise taxes. You think voters will vote for that??

Eh, the economy was fine. 2.4% GDP growth was hardly great. Unemployment was low, but it was low when Trump took office and for a little lower. It wasn’t a miracle.

The economy never “took off” like Trump said it would as a result of his tax cuts. It just never happened. It did blow up the deficit and endanger entitlements, which is why we need to raise taxes again.

It halted corporate inversions, it sparked new business growth and of course increased wages. You're incorrect again.

Business investment went nowhere.

As investment continues to decline, the Trump tax cuts remain nothing but a handout to the rich

President Trump is likely to tout the benefits of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) during his annual State of the Union Address. The centerpiece of the TCJA was a corporate rate cut that proponents claimed would eventually trickle down to workers’ wages—boosting the average American...

www.epi.org

No significant effect on wages.

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The data doesn’t back you up.

Mainvest | Invest in Main Street. -- Formed under Trump helps a lot of small businesses


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Okay.

And that has what to do with your prior claims being of dubious accuracy?

If you don't understand I'll gladly walk you through it, troll.

Yes, please walk me through it.

Do you know what the SBA is? Yes or no?

Yes.

So if there are fewer SBA loans and more direct bank loans. What does that mean to you?

Not much. What does it mean to you?

It means that Banks are willing to take more risk because they see the economy as stronger and don’t need SBA guarantees that are expensive to the borrower. Hence the economy is stronger. It’s crazy that your vote is equivalent to mine. Sickens me.

So the economy “is stronger” because the banks “think it is”? This is not a good logic. Perception is not reality. Never has been. You’re basing your assessment on feelings, not facts.

Of course it is. OMG. Why do you think in 2009 the govt forced capital injections? If banks stop lending the economy sinks hence the PPP loans. Banks control our economy. You are very uninformed. I would Even say stupid. My goodness.

No, it’s not. Bubbles form all the time. Lending is not always directly tied to the strength of the economy, but sometimes based on a false perception.

Why do you have to act so nasty all the time? Can’t we just have a normal discussion? I really am trying here but you’re getting on my nerves and it’s like you’re trying to provoke me.

Because you’re trolling. It would be like me saying that doctors have no impact on how healthy a patient gets. Banks have a massive impact on the economy. Want to see it contract? Watch what happens if Biden wins. If you don’t want nastiness then please don’t troll.

What do you think trolling is and why do you think I'm trolling?

Banks absolutely have a massive impact in the economy, and I never said otherwise. This is another example of you misrepresenting my statement. You're making unjustified inferences by saying because the banks think the economy is better, then the economy is better. That's not reality. The economy may or may not be better because banks think it's better. There's examples where banks lent tons of money only to create asset bubbles, you know, like the massive one in 2008?

Furthermore, you claimed that Trump's tax cuts spurred business investment, and as I quickly showed, the data does not support that. You dropped that point like a hot potato before moving onto this much smaller point that you can't even defend when I point out the logical holes.

When did I say “tax cuts”? You look at charts. I live it in real life as this is what I do. Trump has been fantastic for corporate confidence.

It was the topic of my post that you replied to, so by context that's exactly what you were referring to.

Really, glad corporate confidence is good, but why would you want me to base my beliefs off of feelings rather than facts?

What facts? Because confidence spurns investment, job growth and lending. Cycles happen of course but a business friendly administration in Congress generally is positive for the economy. You should read Thomas Sowell.

Because the facts show business investment didn’t really change. I showed you these facts ages ago.

Fact is that politicians have a far smaller impact on the economy than anyone wants to admit, especially partisan political writers.

Except it did and they do. But you just keep looking up fake news media while I live it since it’s my business. With all due respect you know not what you’re talking about. My business had record years under Trump.

Problem is the data just doesn’t back up your feeling.

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Fixed investment growth is what exactly? I am talking CAPEX

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Again, I do this for a living. Why would you question me on it? Would you question a brain surgeon on how to do brain surgery? It is honestly insulting. Stop your trolling.

I like LATKA And btw dump thinks he's smarter than scientists Generals ,virus experts,lifetime experts in foreign affairs A real schmuck

He may be given the shit storms we are in. He is certainly smarter than you.

He's a better thief a great pervert , but smarter?? I doubt it . I'm smart enough to step back , maybe learn from those smarter than me. You can't teach me anything

I can teach you not to be a traitor to your ancestors. But you have to be willing to learn.

This traitor thing of yours goes to far .Way too far I'm Jewish BUT American first and last That doesn't make me a traitor

Ilhan Omar hates America and you support her. Democrats are saying America was built on racism. So you are a double traitor.

every country on the planet was built by slave labor. I'm done with the slave this and that thing. that was the world. Monday morning QBs can all kiss my white mthr fking ass.

pretty sure the pyrmids were built by slaves.

go ahead. tear 'em down.

Fun fact, pyramids were probably built by workers, not slaves.

https://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/01/12/egypt-new-find-shows-slaves-didnt-build-pyramids

Hmmmm not according to my Bible.....do you know what that is?

LOLOL

Which Bible states skaves built the pyrmids. Cite chapter and verse too.........

 

[kaz]

What does gas have to do with abortions.

The difference between current reality, and remembering the good old days.

Some states ruled abortions to be "elective surgery" and thus prevented them. There are no numbers available to see if the numbers were cut by a little or cut by a lot. But knowing we don't know, makes you an idiot to pretend last years numbers have anything to do with what happened in 2020.

If you look at the peak users of abortion, women 20-24, women with some college, women not married or cohabitation, zero prior births,

That concludes they're due to women in college, and with that switched to tele-learning, their need for abortions was cut dramatically

https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/report_downloads/us-abortion-patients-table1.pdf

You can analyze the data for yourself.

My argument was that Democrats consider 200K catastrohic while 450K abortions EVERY six months is a "choice." Your quibbling over how many abortions there were over the last six specific months doesn't change anything about my point, which is about your attitude. The exact number over the last six months doesn't change your double standard. Address the point.

And my second point was how blaming Trump for a virus at all is your hate partisan absurd bull crap

Kazzer, which position do you disagree with...?

• 200K deaths caused by a pandemic is a disaster
• 450K abortions were by choice

Faun: Hi kaz, I'm going to ask you a question like an eight year old, but I want you to take me seriously anyway, OK????

Um ... yeah.

Faun: You're kazzing, like a kazzing kazzer who's kazzing his kazzing kazzer kazz line of kazzing kazzer kazzest for a kazzster who's kazzing like the kazzest kazzer.

Um ... no. Ask like an adult if you want a real answer

 

[colfax_m]

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Of course its high now. Its because of the pandemic shit for brains.
Before the pandemic UE was the lowest it had been in 50 years. We had jobs all across the country. And a great economy. All with Trump at the helm. Voters know who they want at the helm and it ain't Biden.
Biden said the first thing he will do is raise taxes. You think voters will vote for that??

Eh, the economy was fine. 2.4% GDP growth was hardly great. Unemployment was low, but it was low when Trump took office and for a little lower. It wasn’t a miracle.

The economy never “took off” like Trump said it would as a result of his tax cuts. It just never happened. It did blow up the deficit and endanger entitlements, which is why we need to raise taxes again.

It halted corporate inversions, it sparked new business growth and of course increased wages. You're incorrect again.

Business investment went nowhere.

As investment continues to decline, the Trump tax cuts remain nothing but a handout to the rich

President Trump is likely to tout the benefits of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) during his annual State of the Union Address. The centerpiece of the TCJA was a corporate rate cut that proponents claimed would eventually trickle down to workers’ wages—boosting the average American...

www.epi.org

No significant effect on wages.

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The data doesn’t back you up.

Mainvest | Invest in Main Street. -- Formed under Trump helps a lot of small businesses


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Okay.

And that has what to do with your prior claims being of dubious accuracy?

If you don't understand I'll gladly walk you through it, troll.

Yes, please walk me through it.

Do you know what the SBA is? Yes or no?

Yes.

So if there are fewer SBA loans and more direct bank loans. What does that mean to you?

Not much. What does it mean to you?

It means that Banks are willing to take more risk because they see the economy as stronger and don’t need SBA guarantees that are expensive to the borrower. Hence the economy is stronger. It’s crazy that your vote is equivalent to mine. Sickens me.

So the economy “is stronger” because the banks “think it is”? This is not a good logic. Perception is not reality. Never has been. You’re basing your assessment on feelings, not facts.

Of course it is. OMG. Why do you think in 2009 the govt forced capital injections? If banks stop lending the economy sinks hence the PPP loans. Banks control our economy. You are very uninformed. I would Even say stupid. My goodness.

No, it’s not. Bubbles form all the time. Lending is not always directly tied to the strength of the economy, but sometimes based on a false perception.

Why do you have to act so nasty all the time? Can’t we just have a normal discussion? I really am trying here but you’re getting on my nerves and it’s like you’re trying to provoke me.

Because you’re trolling. It would be like me saying that doctors have no impact on how healthy a patient gets. Banks have a massive impact on the economy. Want to see it contract? Watch what happens if Biden wins. If you don’t want nastiness then please don’t troll.

What do you think trolling is and why do you think I'm trolling?

Banks absolutely have a massive impact in the economy, and I never said otherwise. This is another example of you misrepresenting my statement. You're making unjustified inferences by saying because the banks think the economy is better, then the economy is better. That's not reality. The economy may or may not be better because banks think it's better. There's examples where banks lent tons of money only to create asset bubbles, you know, like the massive one in 2008?

Furthermore, you claimed that Trump's tax cuts spurred business investment, and as I quickly showed, the data does not support that. You dropped that point like a hot potato before moving onto this much smaller point that you can't even defend when I point out the logical holes.

When did I say “tax cuts”? You look at charts. I live it in real life as this is what I do. Trump has been fantastic for corporate confidence.

It was the topic of my post that you replied to, so by context that's exactly what you were referring to.

Really, glad corporate confidence is good, but why would you want me to base my beliefs off of feelings rather than facts?

What facts? Because confidence spurns investment, job growth and lending. Cycles happen of course but a business friendly administration in Congress generally is positive for the economy. You should read Thomas Sowell.

Because the facts show business investment didn’t really change. I showed you these facts ages ago.

Fact is that politicians have a far smaller impact on the economy than anyone wants to admit, especially partisan political writers.

Except it did and they do. But you just keep looking up fake news media while I live it since it’s my business. With all due respect you know not what you’re talking about. My business had record years under Trump.

Problem is the data just doesn’t back up your feeling.

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Again, I do this for a living. Why would you question me on it? Would you question a brain surgeon on how to do brain surgery? It is honestly insulting. Stop your trolling.

I like LATKA And btw dump thinks he's smarter than scientists Generals ,virus experts,lifetime experts in foreign affairs A real schmuck

He may be given the shit storms we are in. He is certainly smarter than you.

He's a better thief a great pervert , but smarter?? I doubt it . I'm smart enough to step back , maybe learn from those smarter than me. You can't teach me anything

I can teach you not to be a traitor to your ancestors. But you have to be willing to learn.

This traitor thing of yours goes to far .Way too far I'm Jewish BUT American first and last That doesn't make me a traitor

Ilhan Omar hates America and you support her. Democrats are saying America was built on racism. So you are a double traitor.

every country on the planet was built by slave labor. I'm done with the slave this and that thing. that was the world. Monday morning QBs can all kiss my white mthr fking ass.

pretty sure the pyrmids were built by slaves.

go ahead. tear 'em down.

Fun fact, pyramids were probably built by workers, not slaves.

https://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/01/12/egypt-new-find-shows-slaves-didnt-build-pyramids

Hmmmm not according to my Bible.....do you know what that is?

Sure I do. I also know what it isn’t. And it’s not a perfectly accurate historical document.

 

[jbrownson0831]

And Killer Cuomo did what, played the banjo??

We went through this, Killer Trump (35,000) was responsible for the deaths in New York.

And the 3,500 you blamed on Cuomo, weren't coronavirus, because as you said, they were never tested, so probably died of natural causes.

Cuomo is the elected official of the state, are you saying governors now are not needed anymore? I thought they were responsible for the conditions of their state and welfare of the citizens is that wrong? I am all for taking away the 3500 and knocking his total down to 32,000...and its not the President that was making the decisions that killed these people goofus, it was Killer Cuomo.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Of course its high now. Its because of the pandemic shit for brains.
Before the pandemic UE was the lowest it had been in 50 years. We had jobs all across the country. And a great economy. All with Trump at the helm. Voters know who they want at the helm and it ain't Biden.
Biden said the first thing he will do is raise taxes. You think voters will vote for that??

Eh, the economy was fine. 2.4% GDP growth was hardly great. Unemployment was low, but it was low when Trump took office and for a little lower. It wasn’t a miracle.

The economy never “took off” like Trump said it would as a result of his tax cuts. It just never happened. It did blow up the deficit and endanger entitlements, which is why we need to raise taxes again.

It halted corporate inversions, it sparked new business growth and of course increased wages. You're incorrect again.

Business investment went nowhere.

As investment continues to decline, the Trump tax cuts remain nothing but a handout to the rich

President Trump is likely to tout the benefits of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) during his annual State of the Union Address. The centerpiece of the TCJA was a corporate rate cut that proponents claimed would eventually trickle down to workers’ wages—boosting the average American...

www.epi.org

No significant effect on wages.

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The data doesn’t back you up.

Mainvest | Invest in Main Street. -- Formed under Trump helps a lot of small businesses


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Okay.

And that has what to do with your prior claims being of dubious accuracy?

If you don't understand I'll gladly walk you through it, troll.

Yes, please walk me through it.

Do you know what the SBA is? Yes or no?

Yes.

So if there are fewer SBA loans and more direct bank loans. What does that mean to you?

Not much. What does it mean to you?

It means that Banks are willing to take more risk because they see the economy as stronger and don’t need SBA guarantees that are expensive to the borrower. Hence the economy is stronger. It’s crazy that your vote is equivalent to mine. Sickens me.

So the economy “is stronger” because the banks “think it is”? This is not a good logic. Perception is not reality. Never has been. You’re basing your assessment on feelings, not facts.

Of course it is. OMG. Why do you think in 2009 the govt forced capital injections? If banks stop lending the economy sinks hence the PPP loans. Banks control our economy. You are very uninformed. I would Even say stupid. My goodness.

No, it’s not. Bubbles form all the time. Lending is not always directly tied to the strength of the economy, but sometimes based on a false perception.

Why do you have to act so nasty all the time? Can’t we just have a normal discussion? I really am trying here but you’re getting on my nerves and it’s like you’re trying to provoke me.

Because you’re trolling. It would be like me saying that doctors have no impact on how healthy a patient gets. Banks have a massive impact on the economy. Want to see it contract? Watch what happens if Biden wins. If you don’t want nastiness then please don’t troll.

What do you think trolling is and why do you think I'm trolling?

Banks absolutely have a massive impact in the economy, and I never said otherwise. This is another example of you misrepresenting my statement. You're making unjustified inferences by saying because the banks think the economy is better, then the economy is better. That's not reality. The economy may or may not be better because banks think it's better. There's examples where banks lent tons of money only to create asset bubbles, you know, like the massive one in 2008?

Furthermore, you claimed that Trump's tax cuts spurred business investment, and as I quickly showed, the data does not support that. You dropped that point like a hot potato before moving onto this much smaller point that you can't even defend when I point out the logical holes.

When did I say “tax cuts”? You look at charts. I live it in real life as this is what I do. Trump has been fantastic for corporate confidence.

It was the topic of my post that you replied to, so by context that's exactly what you were referring to.

Really, glad corporate confidence is good, but why would you want me to base my beliefs off of feelings rather than facts?

What facts? Because confidence spurns investment, job growth and lending. Cycles happen of course but a business friendly administration in Congress generally is positive for the economy. You should read Thomas Sowell.

Because the facts show business investment didn’t really change. I showed you these facts ages ago.

Fact is that politicians have a far smaller impact on the economy than anyone wants to admit, especially partisan political writers.

Except it did and they do. But you just keep looking up fake news media while I live it since it’s my business. With all due respect you know not what you’re talking about. My business had record years under Trump.

Problem is the data just doesn’t back up your feeling.

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Fixed investment growth is what exactly? I am talking CAPEX

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Again, I do this for a living. Why would you question me on it? Would you question a brain surgeon on how to do brain surgery? It is honestly insulting. Stop your trolling.

I like LATKA And btw dump thinks he's smarter than scientists Generals ,virus experts,lifetime experts in foreign affairs A real schmuck

He may be given the shit storms we are in. He is certainly smarter than you.

He's a better thief a great pervert , but smarter?? I doubt it . I'm smart enough to step back , maybe learn from those smarter than me. You can't teach me anything

I can teach you not to be a traitor to your ancestors. But you have to be willing to learn.

This traitor thing of yours goes to far .Way too far I'm Jewish BUT American first and last That doesn't make me a traitor

Ilhan Omar hates America and you support her. Democrats are saying America was built on racism. So you are a double traitor.

every country on the planet was built by slave labor. I'm done with the slave this and that thing. that was the world. Monday morning QBs can all kiss my white mthr fking ass.

pretty sure the pyrmids were built by slaves.

go ahead. tear 'em down.

Fun fact, pyramids were probably built by workers, not slaves.

https://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/01/12/egypt-new-find-shows-slaves-didnt-build-pyramids

Hmmmm not according to my Bible.....do you know what that is?

Sure I do. I also know what it isn’t. And it’s not a perfectly accurate historical document.

like your article you mean?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Of course its high now. Its because of the pandemic shit for brains.
Before the pandemic UE was the lowest it had been in 50 years. We had jobs all across the country. And a great economy. All with Trump at the helm. Voters know who they want at the helm and it ain't Biden.
Biden said the first thing he will do is raise taxes. You think voters will vote for that??

Eh, the economy was fine. 2.4% GDP growth was hardly great. Unemployment was low, but it was low when Trump took office and for a little lower. It wasn’t a miracle.

The economy never “took off” like Trump said it would as a result of his tax cuts. It just never happened. It did blow up the deficit and endanger entitlements, which is why we need to raise taxes again.

It halted corporate inversions, it sparked new business growth and of course increased wages. You're incorrect again.

Business investment went nowhere.

As investment continues to decline, the Trump tax cuts remain nothing but a handout to the rich

President Trump is likely to tout the benefits of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) during his annual State of the Union Address. The centerpiece of the TCJA was a corporate rate cut that proponents claimed would eventually trickle down to workers’ wages—boosting the average American...

www.epi.org

No significant effect on wages.

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The data doesn’t back you up.

Mainvest | Invest in Main Street. -- Formed under Trump helps a lot of small businesses


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Okay.

And that has what to do with your prior claims being of dubious accuracy?

If you don't understand I'll gladly walk you through it, troll.

Yes, please walk me through it.

Do you know what the SBA is? Yes or no?

Yes.

So if there are fewer SBA loans and more direct bank loans. What does that mean to you?

Not much. What does it mean to you?

It means that Banks are willing to take more risk because they see the economy as stronger and don’t need SBA guarantees that are expensive to the borrower. Hence the economy is stronger. It’s crazy that your vote is equivalent to mine. Sickens me.

So the economy “is stronger” because the banks “think it is”? This is not a good logic. Perception is not reality. Never has been. You’re basing your assessment on feelings, not facts.

Of course it is. OMG. Why do you think in 2009 the govt forced capital injections? If banks stop lending the economy sinks hence the PPP loans. Banks control our economy. You are very uninformed. I would Even say stupid. My goodness.

No, it’s not. Bubbles form all the time. Lending is not always directly tied to the strength of the economy, but sometimes based on a false perception.

Why do you have to act so nasty all the time? Can’t we just have a normal discussion? I really am trying here but you’re getting on my nerves and it’s like you’re trying to provoke me.

Because you’re trolling. It would be like me saying that doctors have no impact on how healthy a patient gets. Banks have a massive impact on the economy. Want to see it contract? Watch what happens if Biden wins. If you don’t want nastiness then please don’t troll.

What do you think trolling is and why do you think I'm trolling?

Banks absolutely have a massive impact in the economy, and I never said otherwise. This is another example of you misrepresenting my statement. You're making unjustified inferences by saying because the banks think the economy is better, then the economy is better. That's not reality. The economy may or may not be better because banks think it's better. There's examples where banks lent tons of money only to create asset bubbles, you know, like the massive one in 2008?

Furthermore, you claimed that Trump's tax cuts spurred business investment, and as I quickly showed, the data does not support that. You dropped that point like a hot potato before moving onto this much smaller point that you can't even defend when I point out the logical holes.

When did I say “tax cuts”? You look at charts. I live it in real life as this is what I do. Trump has been fantastic for corporate confidence.

It was the topic of my post that you replied to, so by context that's exactly what you were referring to.

Really, glad corporate confidence is good, but why would you want me to base my beliefs off of feelings rather than facts?

What facts? Because confidence spurns investment, job growth and lending. Cycles happen of course but a business friendly administration in Congress generally is positive for the economy. You should read Thomas Sowell.

Because the facts show business investment didn’t really change. I showed you these facts ages ago.

Fact is that politicians have a far smaller impact on the economy than anyone wants to admit, especially partisan political writers.

Except it did and they do. But you just keep looking up fake news media while I live it since it’s my business. With all due respect you know not what you’re talking about. My business had record years under Trump.

Problem is the data just doesn’t back up your feeling.

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Again, I do this for a living. Why would you question me on it? Would you question a brain surgeon on how to do brain surgery? It is honestly insulting. Stop your trolling.

I like LATKA And btw dump thinks he's smarter than scientists Generals ,virus experts,lifetime experts in foreign affairs A real schmuck

He may be given the shit storms we are in. He is certainly smarter than you.

He's a better thief a great pervert , but smarter?? I doubt it . I'm smart enough to step back , maybe learn from those smarter than me. You can't teach me anything

I can teach you not to be a traitor to your ancestors. But you have to be willing to learn.

This traitor thing of yours goes to far .Way too far I'm Jewish BUT American first and last That doesn't make me a traitor

Ilhan Omar hates America and you support her. Democrats are saying America was built on racism. So you are a double traitor.

every country on the planet was built by slave labor. I'm done with the slave this and that thing. that was the world. Monday morning QBs can all kiss my white mthr fking ass.

pretty sure the pyrmids were built by slaves.

go ahead. tear 'em down.

Fun fact, pyramids were probably built by workers, not slaves.

https://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/01/12/egypt-new-find-shows-slaves-didnt-build-pyramids

Hmmmm not according to my Bible.....do you know what that is?

LOLOL

Which Bible states skaves built the pyrmids. Cite chapter and verse too.........

Skaves? Are those like slaves from caves?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Report was debunked. Fake News.
Next...

It's on tape. Read the article.

Tapes can be FAKED. LOL

Trump may win. I never thought the gop would let blacks vote in Fla and Ga. I never even considered a Biden win until the gop "convention." Can Trump win by simply running on the "RACE RIOTS" card? Maybe. Most still approve of him on the economy.

But yeah, Woodward has the hard evidence that Trump lied about the danger of Corvid, and he continues to lie.

We'll see if that's enough. Along with denigrating service people who sacrificed everything.

It is hyperbole. He didn't "know" how dangerous it is. Hell we still don't know. "Corvid"?

Its as dangerous as the cold or a flu.....unless you are older or have pre-existing problems or both.

Trump's words:
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.

So when was Trump lying- when he said it was much more dangerous than the flu- or when he said it was just like the flu?

The "President" purposely mis-led the American people about a deadly pandemic headed their way.

That's a fact.

Fact is it’s not that deadly and we never should have locked down. More lives were lost due to the lockdowns. That was a bad move by Trump. He still gets my vote in 2020 over Harris.

How many of your people died because of this AH Trump?? Every dead Jew is looking down on you and weeps

Gee Ed where's your outrage over the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights into the US??

Where's your outrage of Pelousy telling everyone to chill and that the virus was nothing and they should enjoy the Chinese New Year??

Trump was working on this in January. What were the Dems doing besides trying to block everything he did.

You sure have selective outrage and your a whiny hypocritical ass.

Yeah he was working ,,,working trying to save his lying ass Trump lied and people died ,,so please, can all your other BS

You seem to think people are stupid. You don't think they were paying attention to what was going on and making up their minds about how THEY would handle it??

Trump started on this in January and he never lied about any of it. Fauci confirmed that.

You also don't seem to care that the Dems called Trump a racist when he wanted to stop flights from coming into the US. Another thing he did to try and stop the spread.

You also don't care that Pelousy told everyone that the virus was nothing and that they should all enjoy the Chines New Year.

China is to blame for this, not Trump. You also don't seem to care it was them who released this on the world. Not Trump.

You have a selective memory and the only facts you care about are the ones you make up. Real facts don't register with your feeble brain at all.

Carry on you whiny biased ass.

his hate is the only thing he loves.

pretty fucking sad but he's far from alone these days in that.

After republicans giving us this pos ,this bullying lying scum, you can't see how we can hate him ? What I find strange is you people DON'T Is there any pos you'll not support if they wear an R on their forehead?

Replace the R with a D and your statement is still true

So very true.lol

THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE This &^%^$%^%$ in our WH now is the worst ever No class just ass

Class? What does that have to do with anything? You mean hating America and apologizing for it, that class??

As if you didn't know ,it's Trump with no class, no heart ,no empathy ,no experience All he has is bluster and bullying,,, he's an ass

Oh boo hoo he is sooo mean, winning the election and all....and protecting our borders and creating jobs oh boo hoo

8.5% UNEMPLOYMENT and idiots are bragging ?

Of course its high now. Its because of the pandemic shit for brains.
Before the pandemic UE was the lowest it had been in 50 years. We had jobs all across the country. And a great economy. All with Trump at the helm. Voters know who they want at the helm and it ain't Biden.
Biden said the first thing he will do is raise taxes. You think voters will vote for that??

Eh, the economy was fine. 2.4% GDP growth was hardly great. Unemployment was low, but it was low when Trump took office and for a little lower. It wasn’t a miracle.

The economy never “took off” like Trump said it would as a result of his tax cuts. It just never happened. It did blow up the deficit and endanger entitlements, which is why we need to raise taxes again.

It halted corporate inversions, it sparked new business growth and of course increased wages. You're incorrect again.

Business investment went nowhere.

As investment continues to decline, the Trump tax cuts remain nothing but a handout to the rich

President Trump is likely to tout the benefits of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) during his annual State of the Union Address. The centerpiece of the TCJA was a corporate rate cut that proponents claimed would eventually trickle down to workers’ wages—boosting the average American...

www.epi.org

No significant effect on wages.

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Okay.

And that has what to do with your prior claims being of dubious accuracy?

If you don't understand I'll gladly walk you through it, troll.

Yes, please walk me through it.

Do you know what the SBA is? Yes or no?

Yes.

So if there are fewer SBA loans and more direct bank loans. What does that mean to you?

Not much. What does it mean to you?

It means that Banks are willing to take more risk because they see the economy as stronger and don’t need SBA guarantees that are expensive to the borrower. Hence the economy is stronger. It’s crazy that your vote is equivalent to mine. Sickens me.

So the economy “is stronger” because the banks “think it is”? This is not a good logic. Perception is not reality. Never has been. You’re basing your assessment on feelings, not facts.

Of course it is. OMG. Why do you think in 2009 the govt forced capital injections? If banks stop lending the economy sinks hence the PPP loans. Banks control our economy. You are very uninformed. I would Even say stupid. My goodness.

No, it’s not. Bubbles form all the time. Lending is not always directly tied to the strength of the economy, but sometimes based on a false perception.

Why do you have to act so nasty all the time? Can’t we just have a normal discussion? I really am trying here but you’re getting on my nerves and it’s like you’re trying to provoke me.

Because you’re trolling. It would be like me saying that doctors have no impact on how healthy a patient gets. Banks have a massive impact on the economy. Want to see it contract? Watch what happens if Biden wins. If you don’t want nastiness then please don’t troll.

What do you think trolling is and why do you think I'm trolling?

Banks absolutely have a massive impact in the economy, and I never said otherwise. This is another example of you misrepresenting my statement. You're making unjustified inferences by saying because the banks think the economy is better, then the economy is better. That's not reality. The economy may or may not be better because banks think it's better. There's examples where banks lent tons of money only to create asset bubbles, you know, like the massive one in 2008?

Furthermore, you claimed that Trump's tax cuts spurred business investment, and as I quickly showed, the data does not support that. You dropped that point like a hot potato before moving onto this much smaller point that you can't even defend when I point out the logical holes.

When did I say “tax cuts”? You look at charts. I live it in real life as this is what I do. Trump has been fantastic for corporate confidence.

It was the topic of my post that you replied to, so by context that's exactly what you were referring to.

Really, glad corporate confidence is good, but why would you want me to base my beliefs off of feelings rather than facts?

What facts? Because confidence spurns investment, job growth and lending. Cycles happen of course but a business friendly administration in Congress generally is positive for the economy. You should read Thomas Sowell.

Because the facts show business investment didn’t really change. I showed you these facts ages ago.

Fact is that politicians have a far smaller impact on the economy than anyone wants to admit, especially partisan political writers.

Except it did and they do. But you just keep looking up fake news media while I live it since it’s my business. With all due respect you know not what you’re talking about. My business had record years under Trump.

Problem is the data just doesn’t back up your feeling.

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Again, I do this for a living. Why would you question me on it? Would you question a brain surgeon on how to do brain surgery? It is honestly insulting. Stop your trolling.

I like LATKA And btw dump thinks he's smarter than scientists Generals ,virus experts,lifetime experts in foreign affairs A real schmuck

He may be given the shit storms we are in. He is certainly smarter than you.

He's a better thief a great pervert , but smarter?? I doubt it . I'm smart enough to step back , maybe learn from those smarter than me. You can't teach me anything

I can teach you not to be a traitor to your ancestors. But you have to be willing to learn.

This traitor thing of yours goes to far .Way too far I'm Jewish BUT American first and last That doesn't make me a traitor

Ilhan Omar hates America and you support her. Democrats are saying America was built on racism. So you are a double traitor.

every country on the planet was built by slave labor. I'm done with the slave this and that thing. that was the world. Monday morning QBs can all kiss my white mthr fking ass.

pretty sure the pyrmids were built by slaves.

go ahead. tear 'em down.

Fun fact, pyramids were probably built by workers, not slaves.

https://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/01/12/egypt-new-find-shows-slaves-didnt-build-pyramids

Hmmmm not according to my Bible.....do you know what that is?

Sure I do. I also know what it isn’t. And it’s not a perfectly accurate historical document.

So you don't know. It is a fun speculation not a fun fact.

Fun fact. You don't know what a fact is.

 

[Faun]

The Lying, Lowlife, Suck Sucking, Draft Doding Coward 45 deliberately LIED to the American People. He knew as far back as December 2019 how extremely dangerous COVID-19 was and he FUCKING LIED about it

I challenge you to directly quote the alleged lie and prove that it is a lie.

But of course you will run away from that challenge with your tail between your legs because you are a cowardly TDS afflicted moron.

"It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flus. ... This is more deadly. This is 5% versus 1%, and less than 1%. So this is deadly stuff." ~ Impeached Trump, 2.7.20

"This is a flu. This is like a flu. ... It’s a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we’ll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner." ~ Impeached Trump, 2.26.20

It's not the flu and it's far deadlier than the flu.

Bullshit. The Spanish flu was far deadlier.

Trump was 100% correct, you ignorant low IQ TDS afflicted moron.

LOL

Dumbfuck, Impeached Trump wasn't talking about the Spanish flu. He said it's like the "regular flu" which kills as many as 70,000 per year.

So he lied and you prove to be a moronic Trump fluffer.

He didn't lie, you moron. He was 100% correct. The science has proven Trump right and proven the TDS afflicted morons such as yourself wrong. As usual.

in public he said it's like the flu which kills between 25,000 and 69,000 per year.

It IS like the flu, you fucking moron.

Trump was 100% correct, as usual.

LOLOL

Dayum, there is nothing of his you won't swallow, is there? No, it's not like the flu. It's far deadlier. Which is what he told Woodward in private though he later lied to America.

This past seasonal flu killed as many as 62,000 people in the U.S. out of 56,000,000 cases.

That's a mortality rate of just 0.1%.

While COVID-19 killed 199,000 in the U.S. out of 6,749,289 cases.

That's a mortality rate of 2.9% nearly 30 times deadlier than the "regular flu."

That makes COVID-19

Not arguing for or against how lethal or not COVID is, but you do realize that it is likely that far, far, far more people have had COVID, likely as many or more than the 59 million you posted for the flu. Also, unlike the flu, COVID is likely listed as the cause of death much more frequently than the common flu due to the coding guidance issued by the CDC. If this is the case, which it is, the death rate for COVID is much smaller than 2.9%.

You're delusional. There is literally zero evidence there have been more than 59 million cases of COVID-19 in tbe U.S. Shit, that's more than double the known cases in the entire world and we comprise only about 4% of the population.

What does 94 million tests at about a 7.9% positive rate give you? The more tests you do the more cases you get is that not in your libber math classes at grade school? And the CDC and Penn State both have some evidence there are in fact many more cases.

It tells me you're a flaming imbecile.

a) 7.9% of 94 million is 7.4 million. 59,000,000 is more than 7 times that; still, nowhere near the figure DBA claimed is likely.

b) even worse for your idiocy, 7.9% positives of 94 million tests doesn't mean there are 7.4 million positive cases since many, if not most, people who test, test more than once. And even though that doesn't affect the number of tests taken, people who test positive still count as just one positive case, regardless of how many tests they take.

So its even a lower positive test percent, like 7.2%. The point is the virus has produced its own metrics no matter how many times people test and how positives are counted. 7.2% is a reduction from 8% and even higher numbers earlier when we didn't have testing. Remember when you wackos were complaining we didn't have tests and many more were infected, and then we got more testing to prove that and you whined because more tested positive? My point is that increased testing gives you more positive cases, what is your point?

LOLOL

From where did you get 7.2%? Did you just make that up?

Again grade school math....6,750,105 total cases into 92,893,134 tests....made up from Worldometer where they capture real numbers

So you did make it up.

Dumbfuck, again, many people who test positive get tested again. That in itself drastically increases your meaningless made up percentage.

Then factor in many of those who are tested, test negative. That increases your meaningless made up number even more.

And again, there is absolutely no evidence anywhere that there are at least 59,000,000 cases in tbe U.S..

None.

You trying to defend that idiocy exposes your chronic conservatitus.

Again...and again.....simply pointing out to you the actual statistics and where they are....I know stats make your head hurt...if you don't want to know any actual metrics then at least stop making your own up. These are real numbers unlike anything you wackos preach.

LOL

You're not posting stats. You're dividing one figure into another to make up a percentage that doesn't actually reflect how many people actually have COVID-19 in your failed attempt to inflate the number of deaths.

Even sadder for you, the only reason you're even doing that is to fluff Trump.

Again, I am reporting and performing math on actual numbers. Try taking your head out of your pelosi for a while and seeing how accurate that is.

Which you're doing to make up a meaningless figure.

 

[meaner gene]

You hyperbolically melt down over less than 200K deaths a year. Yet abortion at 450K-500K average over the same time period is a "choice" to you. What didn't you understand about that?

If you're going to use "average" numbers instead of actual ones, than your argument is that deaths from flu viruses is 30K in six months, while abortions are 450K in six months (on average)

I'm sure that's a much better argument, if only it reflected reality.

 

[kaz]

What does gas have to do with abortions.

The difference between current reality, and remembering the good old days.

Some states ruled abortions to be "elective surgery" and thus prevented them. There are no numbers available to see if the numbers were cut by a little or cut by a lot. But knowing we don't know, makes you an idiot to pretend last years numbers have anything to do with what happened in 2020.

If you look at the peak users of abortion, women 20-24, women with some college, women not married or cohabitation, zero prior births,

That concludes they're due to women in college, and with that switched to tele-learning, their need for abortions was cut dramatically

https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/report_downloads/us-abortion-patients-table1.pdf

You can analyze the data for yourself.

My argument was that Democrats consider 200K catastrohic while 450K abortions EVERY six months is a "choice." Your quibbling over how many abortions there were over the last six specific months doesn't change anything about my point, which is about your attitude. The exact number over the last six months doesn't change your double standard. Address the point.

And my second point was how blaming Trump for a virus at all is your hate partisan absurd bull crap

Kazzer, which position do you disagree with...?

• 200K deaths caused by a pandemic is a disaster
• 450K abortions were by choice

Many of that 200k would have died anyway. I do Not believe the fake news media. I am pro choice but what is interesting is that if one kills a pregnant lady the crime is a double homicide.

I'm pro-choice, but my argument is not that it's not a human life. It's just that the government has no legitimate power to point a gun at a woman and force her to carry a baby to term in her body. So there is no conflict there with murder being double homocide.

But Democrats specifically argue that abortion is fine, just a choice. I don't argue that, only that it's not a legitimate government power to force the mother to deliver it. Their reasoning is what makes it a double standard.

But if 200K lives is catastrophic, that there were 2 1/2 abortions on average over that time period they considered only a "choice" is massively hypocritical

 

[LA RAM FAN]

So Trump is the blame for the outbreak getting worse and leading people on not to wear masks.

Ever see his rallies ? 1000's all without masks And it was fine with him?

That’s because they are not sheep like you and understand it’s all a hoax.lol they are awake not brainwashed by the idiot box in the living room like you are.lol

Families of 200,000 dead might not agree with you LA

Again,nice game of dodgeball how the cdc is inflating the deaths ruing practically every death from corona even from a car accident or gunshot to the head,lol as always,you have reading comprehension problems.lol

 

[kaz]

You hyperbolically melt down over less than 200K deaths a year. Yet abortion at 450K-500K average over the same time period is a "choice" to you. What didn't you understand about that?

If you're going to use "average" numbers instead of actual ones, than your argument is that deaths from flu viruses is 30K in six months, while abortions are 450K in six months (on average)

I'm sure that's a much better argument, if only it reflected reality.

Explain how Democrats are no longer OK with 450K abortions in six months. Go

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

What does gas have to do with abortions.

The difference between current reality, and remembering the good old days.

Some states ruled abortions to be "elective surgery" and thus prevented them. There are no numbers available to see if the numbers were cut by a little or cut by a lot. But knowing we don't know, makes you an idiot to pretend last years numbers have anything to do with what happened in 2020.

If you look at the peak users of abortion, women 20-24, women with some college, women not married or cohabitation, zero prior births,

That concludes they're due to women in college, and with that switched to tele-learning, their need for abortions was cut dramatically

https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/report_downloads/us-abortion-patients-table1.pdf

You can analyze the data for yourself.

My argument was that Democrats consider 200K catastrohic while 450K abortions EVERY six months is a "choice." Your quibbling over how many abortions there were over the last six specific months doesn't change anything about my point, which is about your attitude. The exact number over the last six months doesn't change your double standard. Address the point.

And my second point was how blaming Trump for a virus at all is your hate partisan absurd bull crap

Kazzer, which position do you disagree with...?

• 200K deaths caused by a pandemic is a disaster
• 450K abortions were by choice

Many of that 200k would have died anyway. I do Not believe the fake news media. I am pro choice but what is interesting is that if one kills a pregnant lady the crime is a double homicide.

I'm pro-choice, but my argument is not that it's not a human life. It's just that the government has no legitimate power to point a gun at a woman and force her to carry a baby to term in her body. So there is no conflict there with murder being double homocide.

But Democrats specifically argue that abortion is fine, just a choice. I don't argue that, only that it's not a legitimate government power to force the mother to deliver it. Their reasoning is what makes it a double standard.

But if 200K lives is catastrophic, that there were 2 1/2 abortions on average over that time period they considered only a "choice" is massively hypocritical

I don't see 200k as catastrophic when hospitals get more $$ if they call the deaths due to COVID-19. I don't trust them or the data.

 

[Faun]

Obama is a born Muslim with inherent hatred for America....

Look it up, daddy(well at least the one we think) a Muslim and so son born is Muslim by birth.

I was referencing your idiocy that being born Muslim means one has an inherhatred for America.

That would be YOUR idiocy and not mine.