Trump: "Our military is a disaster"

[alpine]

Yup, Like Bush when he DID send them to Iraq...

But Obama DID take them out, they should be thankful...

But having to send them back because he didn't let them finish the job kills moral.

SO US army should have stayed in Nam, to "finish the job"?

You don't get it do you...

There was no "job" to "finish" for the US Army in the middle east to begin with...
Except of course; if you don't consider fighting expensive wars, for the military industry complex to profit trillions of tax payer money, showcasing their technology to the world market, leaving a crumbling region behind, causing the whole world feel unsecure and demanding more weapons for security in return, and profit more trillions... a win win win win win win situation...
and walking out of this mess should not kill moral... dying for this should...

But gotta give Bush this; at least he didn't negotiate a price to start a war, like Trump is planning to.

 

[CowboyTed]

Gave rise to the terrorism that has existed since civilization rose.

There wasn't terrorism internally under Saddam. And Saddam didn't export terrorism.

And Obama has expanded war efforts. Pulling ground forces out while expanding airstrikes to even more nations is NOT helping to reduce terrorism or all the negative impacts from conducting a war.

It amazes me that so many people can acknowledge that Bush was an idiot for getting us into Iraq and then back Obama's asinine war efforts.

That looks like it is going down...

Drones are down as well...

Airstrikes against ISIS, there going on and much more than all other countries combined...

 

[frigidweirdo]

Gave rise to the terrorism that has existed since civilization rose.

There wasn't terrorism internally under Saddam. And Saddam didn't export terrorism.

You know who does export terrorism? IRAN

IRAN

The US also exports terrorism, but we'll just pretend it doesn't happen.

What this country needs as much as anything is honest conversation.

And it'll never get an honest conversation because everyone is playing this partisan team slap down game.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yup, Like Bush when he DID send them to Iraq...

But Obama DID take them out, they should be thankful...

Problem is, most of the soldiers who were pulled out of Iraq joined up the armed forces knowing they're be a strong chance they'd be sent to Iraq. They wanted to go there. Being pulled out isn't necessarily a good thing for people who want war.

This is ignorant.

Most solders are not looking for war. Most that want to fight want to fight for something. Most of the military has no clue why we are blowing shit up overseas anymore. We have been at war so long with almost nothing gained.

It's not ignorant.

I didn't say they were looking for war, but they would have known there was a strong chance they'd go to war. They want to fight for something? Is fighting for oil really a good thing to go fight for? Would you put your life on the line so folks back home can get cheaper fuel?

I doubt many or any of them went off to war to fight for the real reasons. So what are the personal reasons for going to war? Beats me. But they have their reasons. Any person who would have tried their hardest to avoid the draft in Vietnam, would simply not have signed up for the Armed forces from 2002 onwards.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Yup, Like Bush when he DID send them to Iraq...

But Obama DID take them out, they should be thankful...

But having to send them back because he didn't let them finish the job kills moral.

SO US army should have stayed in Nam, to "finish the job"?

You don't get it do you...

There was no "job" to "finish" for the US Army in the middle east to begin with...
Except of course; if you don't consider fighting expensive wars, for the military industry complex to profit trillions of tax payer money, showcasing their technology to the world market, leaving a crumbling region behind, causing the whole world feel unsecure and demanding more weapons for security in return, and profit more trillions... a win win win win win win situation...
and walking out of this mess should not kill moral... dying for this should...

But gotta give Bush this; at least he didn't negotiate a price to start a war, like Trump is planning to.

No job to finish and yet they were sent. Your the one who doesn't get it.Despite the efforts of the politicians and whiny ass civilians the job of the US military is to win wars. If they are deployed let them do their job.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yup, Like Bush when he DID send them to Iraq...

But Obama DID take them out, they should be thankful...

They hate his guts....deal with it.

You can tell they hate his guts how exactly?

Because they're not smiling? Is life so simple that someone likes you if they smile when you walk in the room, and if they don't smile they hate you?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Yup, Like Bush when he DID send them to Iraq...

But Obama DID take them out, they should be thankful...

They hate his guts....deal with it.

You can tell they hate his guts how exactly?

Because they're not smiling? Is life so simple that someone likes you if they smile when you walk in the room, and if they don't smile they hate you?

If you havent clued to the fact the military has hated democrats for years you have your head up your ass.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yup, Like Bush when he DID send them to Iraq...

But Obama DID take them out, they should be thankful...

They hate his guts....deal with it.

You can tell they hate his guts how exactly?

Because they're not smiling? Is life so simple that someone likes you if they smile when you walk in the room, and if they don't smile they hate you?

If you havent clued to the fact the military has hated democrats for years you have your head up your ass.

It doesn't surprise me. The Republicans are war mongers, they make the defense industry rich, they give people a reason to throw their money at unnecessary military spending.

Soldiers know that under the Republicans they have a better change of promotion, there are more jobs and more vacant jobs because of people going home in body bags and wheelchairs.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Yup, Like Bush when he DID send them to Iraq...

But Obama DID take them out, they should be thankful...

They hate his guts....deal with it.

You can tell they hate his guts how exactly?

Because they're not smiling? Is life so simple that someone likes you if they smile when you walk in the room, and if they don't smile they hate you?

If you havent clued to the fact the military has hated democrats for years you have your head up your ass.

It doesn't surprise me. The Republicans are war mongers, they make the defense industry rich, they give people a reason to throw their money at unnecessary military spending.

Soldiers know that under the Republicans they have a better change of promotion, there are more jobs and more vacant jobs because of people going home in body bags and wheelchairs.

Actually they like Conservatives because they are willing to give them the weapons and the ROE that allow them to not only protect themselves but to win.
You know nothing of the mind set of a soldier.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Yup, Like Bush when he DID send them to Iraq...

But Obama DID take them out, they should be thankful...

They hate his guts....deal with it.

You can tell they hate his guts how exactly?

Because they're not smiling? Is life so simple that someone likes you if they smile when you walk in the room, and if they don't smile they hate you?

If you havent clued to the fact the military has hated democrats for years you have your head up your ass.

It doesn't surprise me. The Republicans are war mongers, they make the defense industry rich, they give people a reason to throw their money at unnecessary military spending.

Soldiers know that under the Republicans they have a better change of promotion, there are more jobs and more vacant jobs because of people going home in body bags and wheelchairs.

Oh and thanks for admitting the military despises democrats.
Not to many liberals are willing to admit it.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yup, Like Bush when he DID send them to Iraq...

But Obama DID take them out, they should be thankful...

They hate his guts....deal with it.

You can tell they hate his guts how exactly?

Because they're not smiling? Is life so simple that someone likes you if they smile when you walk in the room, and if they don't smile they hate you?

If you havent clued to the fact the military has hated democrats for years you have your head up your ass.

It doesn't surprise me. The Republicans are war mongers, they make the defense industry rich, they give people a reason to throw their money at unnecessary military spending.

Soldiers know that under the Republicans they have a better change of promotion, there are more jobs and more vacant jobs because of people going home in body bags and wheelchairs.

Actually they like Conservatives because they are willing to give them the weapons and the ROE that allow them to not only protect themselves but to win.
You know nothing of the mind set of a soldier.

Funny how when soldiers went to Iraq, under a certain Republican C-in-C, they were buying equipment online and having friends and family send it over to Iraq.

But they were happy with that, apparently.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yup, Like Bush when he DID send them to Iraq...

But Obama DID take them out, they should be thankful...

They hate his guts....deal with it.

You can tell they hate his guts how exactly?

Because they're not smiling? Is life so simple that someone likes you if they smile when you walk in the room, and if they don't smile they hate you?

If you havent clued to the fact the military has hated democrats for years you have your head up your ass.

It doesn't surprise me. The Republicans are war mongers, they make the defense industry rich, they give people a reason to throw their money at unnecessary military spending.

Soldiers know that under the Republicans they have a better change of promotion, there are more jobs and more vacant jobs because of people going home in body bags and wheelchairs.

Oh and thanks for admitting the military despises democrats.
Not to many liberals are willing to admit it.

That doesn't mean the military is right for thinking they way they do.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

They hate his guts....deal with it.

You can tell they hate his guts how exactly?

Because they're not smiling? Is life so simple that someone likes you if they smile when you walk in the room, and if they don't smile they hate you?

If you havent clued to the fact the military has hated democrats for years you have your head up your ass.

It doesn't surprise me. The Republicans are war mongers, they make the defense industry rich, they give people a reason to throw their money at unnecessary military spending.

Soldiers know that under the Republicans they have a better change of promotion, there are more jobs and more vacant jobs because of people going home in body bags and wheelchairs.

Actually they like Conservatives because they are willing to give them the weapons and the ROE that allow them to not only protect themselves but to win.
You know nothing of the mind set of a soldier.

Funny how when soldiers went to Iraq, under a certain Republican C-in-C, they were buying equipment online and having friends and family send it over to Iraq.

But they were happy with that, apparently.

Thats been going on since there've been wars.
The military can be slow sometimes when it comes to bringing out the latest and greatest due to logistics.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

They hate his guts....deal with it.

You can tell they hate his guts how exactly?

Because they're not smiling? Is life so simple that someone likes you if they smile when you walk in the room, and if they don't smile they hate you?

If you havent clued to the fact the military has hated democrats for years you have your head up your ass.

It doesn't surprise me. The Republicans are war mongers, they make the defense industry rich, they give people a reason to throw their money at unnecessary military spending.

Soldiers know that under the Republicans they have a better change of promotion, there are more jobs and more vacant jobs because of people going home in body bags and wheelchairs.

Oh and thanks for admitting the military despises democrats.
Not to many liberals are willing to admit it.

That doesn't mean the military is right for thinking they way they do.

Sure it does.
When you're getting shot at you have a certain clarity of thought...ask hilary,when she was under sniper fire was probably the last time she thought clearly.

 

[Weatherman2020]

 

[alpine]

Yup, Like Bush when he DID send them to Iraq...

But Obama DID take them out, they should be thankful...

But having to send them back because he didn't let them finish the job kills moral.

SO US army should have stayed in Nam, to "finish the job"?

You don't get it do you...

There was no "job" to "finish" for the US Army in the middle east to begin with...
Except of course; if you don't consider fighting expensive wars, for the military industry complex to profit trillions of tax payer money, showcasing their technology to the world market, leaving a crumbling region behind, causing the whole world feel unsecure and demanding more weapons for security in return, and profit more trillions... a win win win win win win situation...
and walking out of this mess should not kill moral... dying for this should...

But gotta give Bush this; at least he didn't negotiate a price to start a war, like Trump is planning to.

No job to finish and yet they were sent. Your the one who doesn't get it.Despite the efforts of the politicians and whiny ass civilians the job of the US military is to win wars. If they are deployed let them do their job.

US Military machine already WON the war. They have rolled through a desert and captured Baghdad in weeks. First army who could accomplish such a victory.

The rest is politics, and you cant expect a military to fight politics... Yes, you are right, politicians messed it up from the beginning, the time they concluded "once military victory was achieved (which it was) the rest will come naturally". And it didn't.

War is over. Bringing the boys back was the conscience decision to make...

 

[whitehall]

Nobody has more respect for the Military than Trump. I imagine the radical left will spend the next couple of days picking out of context tidbits from the debate to feed to drooling low information democrats.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Will there be any outrage from the usual crowd over Trump's disrespecting our military?

I doubt it - he's not a Democrat.

Disaster is Trump's favorite word. And if he ever became president, that word would become synonymous with the name Trump (as in, the Trump disaster).

Meaningless generalities and platitudes are Trump's stock because one layer deeper and he's totally lost.

Oh, and btw, today, superneocon Lindsey Graham endorsed Bush. This will be the pattern as the establishment candidates drop out one by one. They'll rally around Bush.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yup, Like Bush when he DID send them to Iraq...

But Obama DID take them out, they should be thankful...

They hate his guts....deal with it.

You can tell they hate his guts how exactly?

Because they're not smiling? Is life so simple that someone likes you if they smile when you walk in the room, and if they don't smile they hate you?

If you havent clued to the fact the military has hated democrats for years you have your head up your ass.

It doesn't surprise me. The Republicans are war mongers, they make the defense industry rich, they give people a reason to throw their money at unnecessary military spending.

Soldiers know that under the Republicans they have a better change of promotion, there are more jobs and more vacant jobs because of people going home in body bags and wheelchairs.

Oh and thanks for admitting the military despises democrats.
Not to many liberals are willing to admit it.

It's not true. You're an idiot.

 

[Dot Com]

The military is a disaster because it was deliberately made into a disaster. It will take a long time to fix the military and some of it may never be fixed.

and what could you possibly know about the military?