Trump pulling out of Paris Climate Accord

[LaDexter]

Changing weather patterns and ocean currents could be the answer.

When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. You are mindlessly throwing out BS without a clue. If you do not know the answer, STFU and ask for it...

 

[OldLady]

I think scientists know math.

You are a breathtaking idiot. Try to opine on subjects you actually understand. Just parroting that which you have no clue about makes you look really stupid...

Yeah, I'll leave it to you, who claims to know everything but doesn't back it up with anything except insults.

 

[jc456]

I think scientists know math.

You are a breathtaking idiot. Try to opine on subjects you actually understand. Just parroting that which you have no clue about makes you look really stupid...

Yeah, I'll leave it to you, who claims to know everything but doesn't back it up with anything except insults.

talking about yourself again? BTW, have there been more or less hurricanes the last several years? How about water rise? How about arctic ice? come now, you simply close your eyes and hummmm,

 

[OldLady]

The experts LaDexter and TN win.

 

[LaDexter]

The last time Greenland's icesheet melted, it caused absolute havoc

This is absolutely classic.

Greenland's ice sheet last melted WHEN????


The truth is that Greenland was completely green 1 million years ago... when it was 35 miles SE of where it is today....

The ice on Greenland has not melted, and Greenland didn't have any before its ice age started in the past 800k years....


Ancient Greenland Was Actually Green


"he oldest ever recovered DNA samples have been collected from under more than a mile of Greenland ice, and their analysis suggests the island was much warmer during the last Ice Age than previously thought.

The DNA is proof that sometime between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, much of Greenland was especially green and covered in a boreal forest that was home to alder, spruce and pine trees, as well as insects such as butterflies and beetles."



In short, if you drill through the thickest part of Greenland's ice and carbon date what you find under, you get under a million years old.


Greenland is a classic study of ice ages, which are continent specific, which is why NA melted while Greenland froze AT THE SAME TIME.


Greenland was green on a plate moving closer to the North Pole. As it got closer to the Pole, its summers got shorter and colder, and finally the annual snow accumulation ceased to fully melt during summer, and the ice started to STACK. That was the start of its ice age.

 

[LaDexter]

So who cares what Antarctica is doing?

That's the typical leftist inside = TRUTH and FACTS do not matter = LEFTIST STEALING FROM THE TAXPAYER DOES MATTER

 

[Flopper]

Here's another horrid idea of the scoundrel.

Trump wants to drill for oil in Alaska's wildlife refuge

That's great news. Trump is making all the right decisions in order to make America great again.

Go fuck yourself if you think ruining our gorgeous pristine wilderness is " great."
Your anti American.

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Don't take my word for it---- go look it up and research it out. The Paris Accord is a scam to yet again like all other "deals" set forth in the past, just bilk more money out from the USA like a fat cow and put into the deep pockets of globalists! Want to know why people like Angela Merkel got that funny look on her face? Because for years AMERICAN POLITICIANS LIKE HILLARY CLINTON have been selling out their country for money, for a price, they will "cut you in." Now that Trump is here,. he IS NOT A PLAYER, he cannot be threatened or bribed.

ALL THESE OTHER COUNTRIES in EU and NATO, etc., PART OF THEIR ECONOMY IS LONG BEEN BASED ON SUCKING THE USA for MONEY!! Now that Trump is in, Merkel really meant it that for once, countries like Germany are really going to have to start carrying their own weight. And they are terrified.

Which is why they don't even want to hear anything about renegotiations. Like the UN, Trump will say America will do their part, but other countries have to do theirs. We will not do their part for them, and that's something they don't even want to discuss. They just want our money with a nice name like Paris Accord attached to it.

My God, you are that fucking stupid to believe Trump wants to renegotiate it when it can't be renegotiated?

Trump & you are too God damn stupid to know the Accord was all voluntary. If Trump is going to follow through on our commitment to lower our emissions, why pull out.

You & Trump are too God damn stupid top know that the leading country responsible for the high levels that exist today.

You & Trump are too God damn stupid top know that reducing emissions globally is better than just lowering ours ( Like the orange POS wants to lower our emissions).

Trump & you are too God damn stupid to get that providing these countries the technology & equipment is business for US corporations.

You & Trump are two of the dumbest people on the planet.

If you think we need some agreement with other countries to tell us what to do and how to do it, you're the stupid one. You want America to be like that guy with a good paying job that patrons a bar. Everybody runs up to him shaking his hand, giving him a hug, knowing he will buy them drinks all night long because he has the money.

Our country is 20 trillion dollars in debt. We are broke. Do you know what the word "broke" means? Broke means no money. Broke means in debt. Broke means failure. Why you leftists would choose failure all the time is beyond any reasonable persons ability to understand.

We can't afford to spend God knows how many billions (of money we don't have) on some stupid fairy tale like MMGW. You on the left always tell us to keep our religion in our church or at home, you should do the same with your beliefs. Don't involve our country in your stupid religion. If you want to lower your idiotic carbon footprint, buy a bike and ride it everywhere you go. Buy a windmill for your backyard. Take the bus everywhere you need to go. And in a hundred years from now, you can sit back and enjoy that .02% of cooler air.

God you people are dense.

In the Paris Agreement, each country determines, it's own contribution it will make in order to mitigate global warming. There is no mechanism to force a country to meet any specific target or by any specific date. So what the fuck is their to negotiate.

What the fuck is there to negotiate? What the fuck is the point of having it then? In 2030, China says they won't contribute anything, and according to you, that's within the agreement.

The only agreement that nations commit to is releasing a plan by 2020 for their contribution to reduction in global warming. What's Trump going to negotiate, the number pages in the report?

 

[WEATHER53]

I will leave this to the real scientists

What is the truth behind the idea that ice displaces more water in frozen state than it adds to water once melted into it?

 

[Flopper]

The only loss for the US is world leadership in an organization that will become more and more important in the 21st century. It appears China is going to take the lead that most believed the US would have. There is no gain for the US in the withdrawing from Paris Accord.

And no advantage by staying in either.

Wrong! By withdrawing from the Paris Accord, the United States will have no seat at the table, no input. That is not a smart move. By staying in, the US would have the opportunity to shape environmental agreements in the coming decade that would benefit the US, that will effect WTO trade agreements, policies of the World Bank and other international organizations.

 

[LaDexter]

I will leave this to the real scientists

Translation - I am a PARROT, not anyone with any ability to think on my own

 

[easyt65]

"Wrong! By withdrawing from the Paris Accord, the United States will have no seat at the table, no input."

If Barry would have really given a damn about having a seat at the table he would have taken action according to the Constitution by gong before Congress for ratification rather than doing what he always did - IGNORE the Constitution and do whatever the hell he wanted to do.

 

[WEATHER53]

I will leave this to the real scientists

Translation - I am a PARROT, not anyone with any ability to think on my own

No just a frank admission that I don't know everything. You should try that on for size

 

[easyt65]

219 Pages ... and it all comes down to the fact that Obama's Un-Constitutional Dictatorial Legacy is being erased.


(sniff, sniff)

 

[TNHarley]

The experts LaDexter and TN win.

LOL till giving me shit for going with reality? I see?
Maybe, since you didn't read my link the other day, you will try these?
Characterizing Interglacial Periods over the Past 800,000 Years - Eos
Interglacial - Wikipedia

 

[LaDexter]

No just a frank admission that I don't know everything. You should try that on for size

There are a lot of things I do not know. I don't know why anyone would ever believe the Bible is 100% accurate. I don't know why people would consciously vote for the Democrats.

But I do know Earth climate change. Sorry. No left wing parrot is getting away posting bull here...

 

[LaDexter]

Characterizing Interglacial Periods over the Past 800,000 Years - Eos
Interglacial - Wikipedia

Still stuck on "interglacials."


Question - Is Antarctica an ICE AGE?

Start the Jeopardy! music

 

[TNHarley]

Characterizing Interglacial Periods over the Past 800,000 Years - Eos
Interglacial - Wikipedia

Still stuck on "interglacials."


Question - Is Antarctica an ICE AGE?

Start the Jeopardy! music

So you disagree we are in the middle of one?

 

[Markle]

ure numbers and statistical data can be deceiving.
I realize that, and you took pure numbers and twisted them into a whine that China and India pollute more than we do. (Which India does not, btw) So why should there be an agreement that encourages them to pollute less, you ask? Shit, I CAN NOT understand where your logic comes from.

Please be specific and tell us how the faux Paris environmental accord reverses the growing air pollution issues stemming from the massive populations of just those two countries. Whining that "it's a start" doesn't cut it. That says nothing.

 

[Markle]

Well, don't worry about that now, Rustic. Pres is rolling back those pesky regulations as quick as he can. We may be choking in the fumes of noxious smog, but we'll be RICH!

Childish!

Honest

No, posting a flat out lie is not "Honest", it is childish.

EVEN YOU, know this is flat out not true!

You posted: "We may be choking in the fumes of noxious smog, but we'll be RICH!"

 

[LaDexter]

So you disagree we are in the middle of one

Let's review the "replay" of the past 1 million years.

1 million years ago, NA looked like this





When we dig under the thickest ice on Greenland and carbon date, we find the pine cones etc. are under 1 million years old. Greenland had no ice (except for mountain tops) 1 million years ago

Ancient Greenland Was Actually Green



So, one million years ago, Greenland is completely green, and NA is covered with ice age glaciers down past Indiana....

Today, Greenland is in full ice age, and NA clearly thawed.... all during the same time on the same planet with the same atmosphere with the same amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.

The definition you use for "ice age" is wrong. Ice ages are CONTINENT SPECIFIC. Why? Because ice that grows out over water BREAKS OFF in the form of icebergs....

Antarctica is a 40-60 million year old ice age. Greenland is a baby. Antarctica is 90% of Earth's ice, while Greenland is 7%, so 97% of Earth's ice is on the two land masses closest to an Earth pole, and

LAND MOVES......