Trump, Racism, and Capitalism

[Toddsterpatriot]

. It's bad enough when the parasite "earns" her wealth, and even worse when one is born into a family that makes him a millionaire by age eight.

Uh-huh, that tells me all I need to know about your state of mind, thanks for sharing.

"The wicked envy and hate; it is their way of admiring." -- Victor Hugo

Uh-huh, that tells me all I need to know about your state of mind, thanks for sharing.

"The wicked envy and hate; it is their way of admiring." -- Victor Hugo

You're welcome

Miguel D Lewis?

Sounds like a whiney twat. Are you related?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Some of them, maybe. The north was hostile to slavery, from the very beginning and increasingly so.


Those slavery benefiting New England capitalists did not seem to have much influence.

Some of them, maybe. The north was hostile to slavery, from the very beginning and increasingly so.


Those slavery benefiting New England capitalists did not seem to have much influence.

Who built Wall Street?.... building a wall in 1653 to protect Dutch settlers from Indian raids. This walkway and wooden fence, made up of pointed logs and running river to river, later was known as Wall Street, the home of world finance.

"Enslaved and free Africans were largely responsible for the construction of the early city,..."

So, we were talking of what drove the massive growth of the UNITED STATES, leading to today's lifestyles, specifically the slavery use of the 1800s, when a lot of that growth started.


You made a claim about 1800th century new england capitalists, and when I pointed out a flaw in your argument,


you change the subject o something that occurred, a full TWO HUNDRED YEARS EARLIER?



You don't concede the previous point. You don't even really "drop it", you just move on to another point, fully planning to return to your previous point, that you could not support, in the future.


You are dishonest troll.

Except you were worse. You didn't even say "okay" before moving on to your next "point".

You made a claim about 1800th century new england capitalists, and when I pointed out a flaw in your argument,


you change the subject o something that occurred, a full TWO HUNDRED YEARS EARLIER?

You made an erroneous claim regarding slavery's contribution to the New England's economic development. I corrected your ignorance by pointing out chattel slavery was a First Principle of white supremacy decades before the Counter-revolution in 1776.

Textile mills in New England in the 1800s would have died without slave-produced cotton.

New York and London bond markets might have noticed "something ridiculous in nature to see an American Patriot signing resolutions of independence with one hand while holding a whip over enslaved Africans with the other", but that didn't affect their investment in King Cotton.

New England insurance companies had few moral qualms about underwriting slave labor as long as premiums were paid promptly.

US Capitalism would have been born dead without chattel slavery, and you and I owe much of our privileged lifestyle to its role; only brain-dead trolls believe otherwise.

Yep, and Bill Gates owes the broom pushers in the warehouse for the growth and development of Microsoft.
Look, you can’t fool anyone here...you do not live a privileged lifestyle...nobody living a privileged lifestyle begs for free shit daily like you do. Save your bullshit for all you twisted buddies.

Capitalists are parasites. : LateStageCapitalism

Yes, when it comes to economics, we should listen to Communists.
Because their economies are so good.

DURR

 

[LordBrownTrout]

So what type of system are you yearning for?

So what type of system are you yearning for?

"Economic democracy is a socioeconomic philosophy that proposes to shift decision-making power from corporate managers and corporate shareholders to a larger group of public stakeholders that includes workers, customers, suppliers, neighbours and the broader public."

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

That doesn't work, especially when they have no experience or capital ie money invested. Ive started three companies and have paid my employess above industry standards. However, I wouldnt turn the decision making over to them. Thats beyond absurd.

That doesn't work, especially when they have no experience or capital ie money invested. Ive started three companies and have paid my employess above industry standards. However, I wouldnt turn the decision making over to them. Thats beyond absurd.

What sort of externalities, if any, did your three companies inflict on society?

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

"No single definition or approach encompasses economic democracy, but most proponents claim that modern property relations externalize costs, subordinate the general well-being to private profit and deny the polity a democratic voice in economic policy decisions.[1]

"In addition to these moral concerns, economic democracy makes practical claims, such as that it can compensate for capitalism's inherent effective demand gap"

They provided an income and healthcare. Of course those are bad in commie world. In commie world the state provides your endless supply of screw jobs and ineptitude.

They provided an income and healthcare. Of course those are bad in commie world. In commie world the state provides your endless supply of screw jobs and ineptitude.

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

"In worker self-management, each productive enterprise is controlled by those who work there.

"Workers are responsible for the operation of the facility, including organization, discipline, production techniques, and the nature, price, and distribution of products. Decisions concerning distribution are made democratically.

"Problems of authority delegation are solved by democratic representation.

"Management is chosen by the worker, not appointed by the State, not elected by the community at large and not selected by a board of directors elected by stockholders. Ultimate authority rests with the enterprise's workers, following the one-person, one-vote principle."
Why do capitalists fear democracy?

N.B.A. Executive’s Hong Kong Tweet Starts Firestorm in China

You system has failed repeatedly. It has been tried before. It was even tried here at the onset of the colonies and it failed.

 

[Correll]

Your lifestyle and mine comes from hundreds of years of free (slave) labor toiling on land acquired through genocide. Anyone who supports that is not a patriot; they are white nationalists.

Except it was the Free North that was the massive engine of growth that developed this nation to where we are today.


So, your smear of the US is complete bullshit.



AND, my point stands.


You fucking libs, say shit like "slavery and genocide built this nation",


and then when we doubt your patriotism, you are like, "How dare you?"

You fucking libs, say shit like "slavery and genocide built this nation",


and then when we doubt your patriotism, you are like, "How dare you?"

Are you disputing the historical facts of genocide and slavery in the economic history of the USA? For the first century of its racist existence, the USA economy was based on cotton in the same way oil serves today. Slave labor produced the cotton which was grown on land stolen from its previous occupants. Slavery + genocide = USA. Perhaps you need to rethink your interpretation of American Exceptionalism?

I already addressed that point. I will cut and paste my previous response for you.



Except it was the Free North that was the massive engine of growth that developed this nation to where we are today.


So, your smear of the US is complete bullshit.



AND, my point stands.


You fucking libs, say shit like "slavery and genocide built this nation",


and then when we doubt your patriotism, you are like, "How dare you?"

He's a Frankfurt School commie.

He is one of the few humans who deserves not the right to life.

.

He's a Frankfurt School commie.

He is one of the few humans who deserves not the right to life.

Salty bitch

Aren't you?

We got it. You're a racist asshole on top of being a marxist asshole.


YOu got more of a point than that?

 

[Correll]

Very little. Cotton did not grow in the North.


My point stands. The north was the center of economic growth that led to our current lifestyles.

Very little. Cotton did not grow in the North.


My point stands. The north was the center of economic growth that led to our current lifestyles.

Very little oil is pumped on Wall Street today.
King Cotton drove the textile mills of New England in the 19th century the same way oil drives economies today.
For a hundred years US capitalists championed chattel slavery because in improved their bottom line.
It's hard to have a better history.

Very little. Cotton did not grow in the North.


My point stands. The north was the center of economic growth that led to our current lifestyles.

Very little. Cotton did not grow in the North.


My point stands. The north was the center of economic growth that led to our current lifestyles.

Very little oil is pumped on Wall Street today.
King Cotton drove the textile mills of New England in the 19th century the same way oil drives economies today.
For a hundred years US capitalists championed chattel slavery because in improved their bottom line.
It's hard to have a better history.

Some of them, maybe. The north was hostile to slavery, from the very beginning and increasingly so.


Those slavery benefiting New England capitalists did not seem to have much influence.

Some of them, maybe. The north was hostile to slavery, from the very beginning and increasingly so.


Those slavery benefiting New England capitalists did not seem to have much influence.

Who built Wall Street?.... building a wall in 1653 to protect Dutch settlers from Indian raids. This walkway and wooden fence, made up of pointed logs and running river to river, later was known as Wall Street, the home of world finance.

"Enslaved and free Africans were largely responsible for the construction of the early city,..."

So, we were talking of what drove the massive growth of the UNITED STATES, leading to today's lifestyles, specifically the slavery use of the 1800s, when a lot of that growth started.


You made a claim about 1800th century new england capitalists, and when I pointed out a flaw in your argument,


you change the subject o something that occurred, a full TWO HUNDRED YEARS EARLIER?



You don't concede the previous point. You don't even really "drop it", you just move on to another point, fully planning to return to your previous point, that you could not support, in the future.


You are dishonest troll.

Except you were worse. You didn't even say "okay" before moving on to your next "point".

You made a claim about 1800th century new england capitalists, and when I pointed out a flaw in your argument,


you change the subject o something that occurred, a full TWO HUNDRED YEARS EARLIER?

You made an erroneous claim regarding slavery's contribution to the New England's economic development......

I made a claim about the lack of political influence of businessmen that might have benefited from slavery in New England.


You can't get one sentence into your post without lying about what I said.


What is the point of talking to someone like you?

 

[Correll]

Some of them, maybe. The north was hostile to slavery, from the very beginning and increasingly so.


Those slavery benefiting New England capitalists did not seem to have much influence.

Some of them, maybe. The north was hostile to slavery, from the very beginning and increasingly so.


Those slavery benefiting New England capitalists did not seem to have much influence.

Who built Wall Street?.... building a wall in 1653 to protect Dutch settlers from Indian raids. This walkway and wooden fence, made up of pointed logs and running river to river, later was known as Wall Street, the home of world finance.

"Enslaved and free Africans were largely responsible for the construction of the early city,..."

So, we were talking of what drove the massive growth of the UNITED STATES, leading to today's lifestyles, specifically the slavery use of the 1800s, when a lot of that growth started.


You made a claim about 1800th century new england capitalists, and when I pointed out a flaw in your argument,


you change the subject o something that occurred, a full TWO HUNDRED YEARS EARLIER?



You don't concede the previous point. You don't even really "drop it", you just move on to another point, fully planning to return to your previous point, that you could not support, in the future.


You are dishonest troll.

Except you were worse. You didn't even say "okay" before moving on to your next "point".

You made a claim about 1800th century new england capitalists, and when I pointed out a flaw in your argument,


you change the subject o something that occurred, a full TWO HUNDRED YEARS EARLIER?

You made an erroneous claim regarding slavery's contribution to the New England's economic development. I corrected your ignorance by pointing out chattel slavery was a First Principle of white supremacy decades before the Counter-revolution in 1776.

Textile mills in New England in the 1800s would have died without slave-produced cotton.

New York and London bond markets might have noticed "something ridiculous in nature to see an American Patriot signing resolutions of independence with one hand while holding a whip over enslaved Africans with the other", but that didn't affect their investment in King Cotton.

New England insurance companies had few moral qualms about underwriting slave labor as long as premiums were paid promptly.

US Capitalism would have been born dead without chattel slavery, and you and I owe much of our privileged lifestyle to its role; only brain-dead trolls believe otherwise.

Yep, and Bill Gates owes the broom pushers in the warehouse for the growth and development of Microsoft.
Look, you can’t fool anyone here...you do not live a privileged lifestyle...nobody living a privileged lifestyle begs for free shit daily like you do. Save your bullshit for all you twisted buddies.

Capitalists are parasites. : LateStageCapitalism

LENIN?


You would quote a mass murderer? YOu really are sub human scum.

 

[Correll]

"Economic democracy is a socioeconomic philosophy that proposes to shift decision-making power from corporate managers and corporate shareholders to a larger group of public stakeholders that includes workers, customers, suppliers, neighbours and the broader public."

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

That doesn't work, especially when they have no experience or capital ie money invested. Ive started three companies and have paid my employess above industry standards. However, I wouldnt turn the decision making over to them. Thats beyond absurd.

That doesn't work, especially when they have no experience or capital ie money invested. Ive started three companies and have paid my employess above industry standards. However, I wouldnt turn the decision making over to them. Thats beyond absurd.

What sort of externalities, if any, did your three companies inflict on society?

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

"No single definition or approach encompasses economic democracy, but most proponents claim that modern property relations externalize costs, subordinate the general well-being to private profit and deny the polity a democratic voice in economic policy decisions.[1]

"In addition to these moral concerns, economic democracy makes practical claims, such as that it can compensate for capitalism's inherent effective demand gap"

They provided an income and healthcare. Of course those are bad in commie world. In commie world the state provides your endless supply of screw jobs and ineptitude.

They provided an income and healthcare. Of course those are bad in commie world. In commie world the state provides your endless supply of screw jobs and ineptitude.

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

"In worker self-management, each productive enterprise is controlled by those who work there.

"Workers are responsible for the operation of the facility, including organization, discipline, production techniques, and the nature, price, and distribution of products. Decisions concerning distribution are made democratically.

"Problems of authority delegation are solved by democratic representation.

"Management is chosen by the worker, not appointed by the State, not elected by the community at large and not selected by a board of directors elected by stockholders. Ultimate authority rests with the enterprise's workers, following the one-person, one-vote principle."
Why do capitalists fear democracy?

N.B.A. Executive’s Hong Kong Tweet Starts Firestorm in China

You system has failed repeatedly. It has been tried before. It was even tried here at the onset of the colonies and it failed.

Generally with mass murder, and quite often with genocide.

 

[georgephillip]

. It's bad enough when the parasite "earns" her wealth, and even worse when one is born into a family that makes him a millionaire by age eight.

Uh-huh, that tells me all I need to know about your state of mind, thanks for sharing.

"The wicked envy and hate; it is their way of admiring." -- Victor Hugo

Uh-huh, that tells me all I need to know about your state of mind, thanks for sharing.

"The wicked envy and hate; it is their way of admiring." -- Victor Hugo

You're welcome

Miguel D Lewis?

Sounds like a whiney twat. Are you related?

Miguel D Lewis?

Sounds like a whiney twat. Are you related?

Your family tree?

 

[Correll]

. It's bad enough when the parasite "earns" her wealth, and even worse when one is born into a family that makes him a millionaire by age eight.

Uh-huh, that tells me all I need to know about your state of mind, thanks for sharing.

"The wicked envy and hate; it is their way of admiring." -- Victor Hugo

Uh-huh, that tells me all I need to know about your state of mind, thanks for sharing.

"The wicked envy and hate; it is their way of admiring." -- Victor Hugo

You're welcome

Miguel D Lewis?

Sounds like a whiney twat. Are you related?

Miguel D Lewis?

Sounds like a whiney twat. Are you related?

Your family tree?

Dude. You are citing mass murderers. Donald Trump is a far better person than you could ever hope to be.

 

[georgephillip]

Who built Wall Street?.... building a wall in 1653 to protect Dutch settlers from Indian raids. This walkway and wooden fence, made up of pointed logs and running river to river, later was known as Wall Street, the home of world finance.

"Enslaved and free Africans were largely responsible for the construction of the early city,..."

So, we were talking of what drove the massive growth of the UNITED STATES, leading to today's lifestyles, specifically the slavery use of the 1800s, when a lot of that growth started.


You made a claim about 1800th century new england capitalists, and when I pointed out a flaw in your argument,


you change the subject o something that occurred, a full TWO HUNDRED YEARS EARLIER?



You don't concede the previous point. You don't even really "drop it", you just move on to another point, fully planning to return to your previous point, that you could not support, in the future.


You are dishonest troll.

Except you were worse. You didn't even say "okay" before moving on to your next "point".

You made a claim about 1800th century new england capitalists, and when I pointed out a flaw in your argument,


you change the subject o something that occurred, a full TWO HUNDRED YEARS EARLIER?

You made an erroneous claim regarding slavery's contribution to the New England's economic development. I corrected your ignorance by pointing out chattel slavery was a First Principle of white supremacy decades before the Counter-revolution in 1776.

Textile mills in New England in the 1800s would have died without slave-produced cotton.

New York and London bond markets might have noticed "something ridiculous in nature to see an American Patriot signing resolutions of independence with one hand while holding a whip over enslaved Africans with the other", but that didn't affect their investment in King Cotton.

New England insurance companies had few moral qualms about underwriting slave labor as long as premiums were paid promptly.

US Capitalism would have been born dead without chattel slavery, and you and I owe much of our privileged lifestyle to its role; only brain-dead trolls believe otherwise.

Yep, and Bill Gates owes the broom pushers in the warehouse for the growth and development of Microsoft.
Look, you can’t fool anyone here...you do not live a privileged lifestyle...nobody living a privileged lifestyle begs for free shit daily like you do. Save your bullshit for all you twisted buddies.

Capitalists are parasites. : LateStageCapitalism

Yes, when it comes to economics, we should listen to Communists.
Because their economies are so good.

DURR

es, when it comes to economics, we should listen to Communists.
Because their economies are so good.

DURR

Too much winning?

 

[Correll]

So, we were talking of what drove the massive growth of the UNITED STATES, leading to today's lifestyles, specifically the slavery use of the 1800s, when a lot of that growth started.


You made a claim about 1800th century new england capitalists, and when I pointed out a flaw in your argument,


you change the subject o something that occurred, a full TWO HUNDRED YEARS EARLIER?



You don't concede the previous point. You don't even really "drop it", you just move on to another point, fully planning to return to your previous point, that you could not support, in the future.


You are dishonest troll.

Except you were worse. You didn't even say "okay" before moving on to your next "point".

You made a claim about 1800th century new england capitalists, and when I pointed out a flaw in your argument,


you change the subject o something that occurred, a full TWO HUNDRED YEARS EARLIER?

You made an erroneous claim regarding slavery's contribution to the New England's economic development. I corrected your ignorance by pointing out chattel slavery was a First Principle of white supremacy decades before the Counter-revolution in 1776.

Textile mills in New England in the 1800s would have died without slave-produced cotton.

New York and London bond markets might have noticed "something ridiculous in nature to see an American Patriot signing resolutions of independence with one hand while holding a whip over enslaved Africans with the other", but that didn't affect their investment in King Cotton.

New England insurance companies had few moral qualms about underwriting slave labor as long as premiums were paid promptly.

US Capitalism would have been born dead without chattel slavery, and you and I owe much of our privileged lifestyle to its role; only brain-dead trolls believe otherwise.

Yep, and Bill Gates owes the broom pushers in the warehouse for the growth and development of Microsoft.
Look, you can’t fool anyone here...you do not live a privileged lifestyle...nobody living a privileged lifestyle begs for free shit daily like you do. Save your bullshit for all you twisted buddies.

Capitalists are parasites. : LateStageCapitalism

Yes, when it comes to economics, we should listen to Communists.
Because their economies are so good.

DURR

es, when it comes to economics, we should listen to Communists.
Because their economies are so good.

DURR

Too much winning?

You have cited a totalitarian mass murderer.


You lose. Trump is a far better person than you are.

 

[georgephillip]

"Economic democracy is a socioeconomic philosophy that proposes to shift decision-making power from corporate managers and corporate shareholders to a larger group of public stakeholders that includes workers, customers, suppliers, neighbours and the broader public."

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

That doesn't work, especially when they have no experience or capital ie money invested. Ive started three companies and have paid my employess above industry standards. However, I wouldnt turn the decision making over to them. Thats beyond absurd.

That doesn't work, especially when they have no experience or capital ie money invested. Ive started three companies and have paid my employess above industry standards. However, I wouldnt turn the decision making over to them. Thats beyond absurd.

What sort of externalities, if any, did your three companies inflict on society?

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

"No single definition or approach encompasses economic democracy, but most proponents claim that modern property relations externalize costs, subordinate the general well-being to private profit and deny the polity a democratic voice in economic policy decisions.[1]

"In addition to these moral concerns, economic democracy makes practical claims, such as that it can compensate for capitalism's inherent effective demand gap"

They provided an income and healthcare. Of course those are bad in commie world. In commie world the state provides your endless supply of screw jobs and ineptitude.

They provided an income and healthcare. Of course those are bad in commie world. In commie world the state provides your endless supply of screw jobs and ineptitude.

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

"In worker self-management, each productive enterprise is controlled by those who work there.

"Workers are responsible for the operation of the facility, including organization, discipline, production techniques, and the nature, price, and distribution of products. Decisions concerning distribution are made democratically.

"Problems of authority delegation are solved by democratic representation.

"Management is chosen by the worker, not appointed by the State, not elected by the community at large and not selected by a board of directors elected by stockholders. Ultimate authority rests with the enterprise's workers, following the one-person, one-vote principle."
Why do capitalists fear democracy?

N.B.A. Executive’s Hong Kong Tweet Starts Firestorm in China

You system has failed repeatedly. It has been tried before. It was even tried here at the onset of the colonies and it failed.

You system has failed repeatedly. It has been tried before. It was even tried here at the onset of the colonies and it failed.

Capitalism is failing most Americans today, and it's the profit motive that's responsible:

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

"According to many analysts, deficiency of effective demand is the most fundamental economic problem.

"That is, modern society does not earn enough income to purchase its output.

"For example, geographer David Harvey claims, 'Workers spending their wages is one source of effective demand, but the total wage bill is always less than the total capital in circulation (otherwise there would be no profit), so the purchase of wage goods that sustain daily life (even with a suburban lifestyle) is never sufficient for the profitable sale of the total output'".

 

[Correll]

That doesn't work, especially when they have no experience or capital ie money invested. Ive started three companies and have paid my employess above industry standards. However, I wouldnt turn the decision making over to them. Thats beyond absurd.

That doesn't work, especially when they have no experience or capital ie money invested. Ive started three companies and have paid my employess above industry standards. However, I wouldnt turn the decision making over to them. Thats beyond absurd.

What sort of externalities, if any, did your three companies inflict on society?

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

"No single definition or approach encompasses economic democracy, but most proponents claim that modern property relations externalize costs, subordinate the general well-being to private profit and deny the polity a democratic voice in economic policy decisions.[1]

"In addition to these moral concerns, economic democracy makes practical claims, such as that it can compensate for capitalism's inherent effective demand gap"

They provided an income and healthcare. Of course those are bad in commie world. In commie world the state provides your endless supply of screw jobs and ineptitude.

They provided an income and healthcare. Of course those are bad in commie world. In commie world the state provides your endless supply of screw jobs and ineptitude.

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

"In worker self-management, each productive enterprise is controlled by those who work there.

"Workers are responsible for the operation of the facility, including organization, discipline, production techniques, and the nature, price, and distribution of products. Decisions concerning distribution are made democratically.

"Problems of authority delegation are solved by democratic representation.

"Management is chosen by the worker, not appointed by the State, not elected by the community at large and not selected by a board of directors elected by stockholders. Ultimate authority rests with the enterprise's workers, following the one-person, one-vote principle."
Why do capitalists fear democracy?

N.B.A. Executive’s Hong Kong Tweet Starts Firestorm in China

You system has failed repeatedly. It has been tried before. It was even tried here at the onset of the colonies and it failed.

You system has failed repeatedly. It has been tried before. It was even tried here at the onset of the colonies and it failed.

Capitalism is failing most Americans today, and it's the profit motive that's responsible:

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

"According to many analysts, deficiency of effective demand is the most fundamental economic problem.

"That is, modern society does not earn enough income to purchase its output.

"For example, geographer David Harvey claims, 'Workers spending their wages is one source of effective demand, but the total wage bill is always less than the total capital in circulation (otherwise there would be no profit), so the purchase of wage goods that sustain daily life (even with a suburban lifestyle) is never sufficient for the profitable sale of the total output'".

Said the man that supports a system that generally produces mass grave and genocide.


Your complaints are not credible.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Donald Trump was born into the ruling class.
He was a millionaire by age eight.
Racism was likely a staple of his childhood.
He gets a pass today because of his alleged "well earned wealth" when, in reality, everything he's accomplished sprang from an accident of birth.
He's the corrupt crony-capitalist who cut out the malignant middleman.

Trump, racism and capitalism

"Let there be no mistake about it. Donald Trump has the blood of all those killed and wounded in the mass shootings of the recent past on his hands, from Gilroy, Calif.; to El Paso, Texas; to Dayton, Ohio.

"And let there be no mistake about it. Trump speaks the mind of the ruling class.

"Just days after the racist mass shootings, millionaires and billionaires travelled to the Hamptons on New York’s Long Island to give him $12 million in one night at a gala celebration.

"His racism, his misogyny, his bigotry, openly spouted from his guttermouth, are part of a deliberate strategy to mobilize the like-minded racists, bigots and male chauvinists to come out and vote for him in 2020."

What’s Going On With All Those House GOP Retirements?

Free Market Capitalism: The reason the U.S., became one of the greatest nations on earth. Leninist/Marxist nations stifle innovation, thus necessitating their operatives to go to the U.S. and other free-market capitalist nations and steal technologies. Millions of people have fled Leninist/Marxist countries seeking the freedoms offered and when coming here, haven't wanted to return. The Leninist/Marxist nations have two classes of people. The government bureaucrats oppressing the people and the oppressed poor. Here in the U.S. we have people in all spectrums of income and less poor. Here, even our poor have a roof over their heads, lights, heat in the winter, cellphones, tv's, food on the table and some form of work. The homeless you hear about, for the most party, fall into a few categories: alcohol/drug addicts that have become non-functional, the mentally-ill, drifting criminals, those that actually prefer to "stay-off-the-grid," and those that just had some bad breaks in life, however, many nations have homeless people, we just have less.
George Soros' plan has been to flood the more affluent nations with third-world people, mostly Muslims in Europe and thus be able to pay employees less.
As for Trump....yes, he was born into a rich family, just as children of the newly rich silicone valley startups have been. If individuals have an idea and can make money legally from them, they should and if their ideas manage to make them rich, more power to them. I'm not rich, I'm in the lower-middle-class spectrum, but have no problem if a person makes it rich, provides his/her children with the riches; he/she earned it and if he/she doesn't want to share his riches with those that are less fortunate, that's fine. He earned it, those not directly related to him, didn't.
Despite claims to the contrary, Trump didn't make racist claims about those coming over the border. He said "SOME" of those coming over our southern border were, murderers, rapists and thieves. That was a factual statement. That's why nations have border control, to vet those coming in to reduce the likelihood that such individuals would get through. He's opened up opportunity zones in the inner cities to aid those living in those regions.
Bottom line: He's doing what the people who voted for him, wanted him to do.
A. Reduce regulations that stifle business opportunities, thus opening up jobs.
B. Stop the massive influx of illegal migrants at the southern border (their skin color is irrelevant, if it was a massive influx of Swedes, we'd still want the southern border controlled better).
C. Rebuild our depleted military.
D. Protect our Constitution and its Amendments (and thus, our liberties).

 

[georgephillip]

Who built Wall Street?.... building a wall in 1653 to protect Dutch settlers from Indian raids. This walkway and wooden fence, made up of pointed logs and running river to river, later was known as Wall Street, the home of world finance.

"Enslaved and free Africans were largely responsible for the construction of the early city,..."

So, we were talking of what drove the massive growth of the UNITED STATES, leading to today's lifestyles, specifically the slavery use of the 1800s, when a lot of that growth started.


You made a claim about 1800th century new england capitalists, and when I pointed out a flaw in your argument,


you change the subject o something that occurred, a full TWO HUNDRED YEARS EARLIER?



You don't concede the previous point. You don't even really "drop it", you just move on to another point, fully planning to return to your previous point, that you could not support, in the future.


You are dishonest troll.

Except you were worse. You didn't even say "okay" before moving on to your next "point".

You made a claim about 1800th century new england capitalists, and when I pointed out a flaw in your argument,


you change the subject o something that occurred, a full TWO HUNDRED YEARS EARLIER?

You made an erroneous claim regarding slavery's contribution to the New England's economic development. I corrected your ignorance by pointing out chattel slavery was a First Principle of white supremacy decades before the Counter-revolution in 1776.

Textile mills in New England in the 1800s would have died without slave-produced cotton.

New York and London bond markets might have noticed "something ridiculous in nature to see an American Patriot signing resolutions of independence with one hand while holding a whip over enslaved Africans with the other", but that didn't affect their investment in King Cotton.

New England insurance companies had few moral qualms about underwriting slave labor as long as premiums were paid promptly.

US Capitalism would have been born dead without chattel slavery, and you and I owe much of our privileged lifestyle to its role; only brain-dead trolls believe otherwise.

Yep, and Bill Gates owes the broom pushers in the warehouse for the growth and development of Microsoft.
Look, you can’t fool anyone here...you do not live a privileged lifestyle...nobody living a privileged lifestyle begs for free shit daily like you do. Save your bullshit for all you twisted buddies.

Capitalists are parasites. : LateStageCapitalism

LENIN?


You would quote a mass murderer? YOu really are sub human scum.

LENIN?


You would quote a mass murderer? YOu really are sub human scum.

How many mass murderers from US History do you quote?

US leaders are engaged in mass murder as we speak in the Middle East.

Lenin's terror came during a civil war inflicted on his country by outside forces:

Red Terror - Wikipedia

"The Red Terror was a period of political repression and mass killings carried out by Bolsheviks after the beginning of the Russian Civil War in 1918.

"The term is usually applied to Bolshevik political repression during the Civil War (1917–1922),[1][2] as distinguished from the White Terror carried out by the White Army (Russian and non-Russian groups opposed to Bolshevik rule) against their political enemies (including the Bolsheviks)"

 

[georgephillip]

What sort of externalities, if any, did your three companies inflict on society?

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

"No single definition or approach encompasses economic democracy, but most proponents claim that modern property relations externalize costs, subordinate the general well-being to private profit and deny the polity a democratic voice in economic policy decisions.[1]

"In addition to these moral concerns, economic democracy makes practical claims, such as that it can compensate for capitalism's inherent effective demand gap"

They provided an income and healthcare. Of course those are bad in commie world. In commie world the state provides your endless supply of screw jobs and ineptitude.

They provided an income and healthcare. Of course those are bad in commie world. In commie world the state provides your endless supply of screw jobs and ineptitude.

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

"In worker self-management, each productive enterprise is controlled by those who work there.

"Workers are responsible for the operation of the facility, including organization, discipline, production techniques, and the nature, price, and distribution of products. Decisions concerning distribution are made democratically.

"Problems of authority delegation are solved by democratic representation.

"Management is chosen by the worker, not appointed by the State, not elected by the community at large and not selected by a board of directors elected by stockholders. Ultimate authority rests with the enterprise's workers, following the one-person, one-vote principle."
Why do capitalists fear democracy?

N.B.A. Executive’s Hong Kong Tweet Starts Firestorm in China

You system has failed repeatedly. It has been tried before. It was even tried here at the onset of the colonies and it failed.

You system has failed repeatedly. It has been tried before. It was even tried here at the onset of the colonies and it failed.

Capitalism is failing most Americans today, and it's the profit motive that's responsible:

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

"According to many analysts, deficiency of effective demand is the most fundamental economic problem.

"That is, modern society does not earn enough income to purchase its output.

"For example, geographer David Harvey claims, 'Workers spending their wages is one source of effective demand, but the total wage bill is always less than the total capital in circulation (otherwise there would be no profit), so the purchase of wage goods that sustain daily life (even with a suburban lifestyle) is never sufficient for the profitable sale of the total output'".

Said the man that supports a system that generally produces mass grave and genocide.


Your complaints are not credible.

Said the man that supports a system that generally produces mass grave and genocide.

The country you defend was built on genocide.

Transatlantic Slave Trade, A Five Hundred-Year-Old Shared History - Los Angeles Sentinel

Do you not see the hypocrisy?

 

[Correll]

So, we were talking of what drove the massive growth of the UNITED STATES, leading to today's lifestyles, specifically the slavery use of the 1800s, when a lot of that growth started.


You made a claim about 1800th century new england capitalists, and when I pointed out a flaw in your argument,


you change the subject o something that occurred, a full TWO HUNDRED YEARS EARLIER?



You don't concede the previous point. You don't even really "drop it", you just move on to another point, fully planning to return to your previous point, that you could not support, in the future.


You are dishonest troll.

Except you were worse. You didn't even say "okay" before moving on to your next "point".

You made a claim about 1800th century new england capitalists, and when I pointed out a flaw in your argument,


you change the subject o something that occurred, a full TWO HUNDRED YEARS EARLIER?

You made an erroneous claim regarding slavery's contribution to the New England's economic development. I corrected your ignorance by pointing out chattel slavery was a First Principle of white supremacy decades before the Counter-revolution in 1776.

Textile mills in New England in the 1800s would have died without slave-produced cotton.

New York and London bond markets might have noticed "something ridiculous in nature to see an American Patriot signing resolutions of independence with one hand while holding a whip over enslaved Africans with the other", but that didn't affect their investment in King Cotton.

New England insurance companies had few moral qualms about underwriting slave labor as long as premiums were paid promptly.

US Capitalism would have been born dead without chattel slavery, and you and I owe much of our privileged lifestyle to its role; only brain-dead trolls believe otherwise.

Yep, and Bill Gates owes the broom pushers in the warehouse for the growth and development of Microsoft.
Look, you can’t fool anyone here...you do not live a privileged lifestyle...nobody living a privileged lifestyle begs for free shit daily like you do. Save your bullshit for all you twisted buddies.

Capitalists are parasites. : LateStageCapitalism

LENIN?


You would quote a mass murderer? YOu really are sub human scum.

LENIN?


You would quote a mass murderer? YOu really are sub human scum.

How many mass murderers from US History do you quote?

US leaders are engaged in mass murder as we speak in the Middle East.

Lenin's terror came during a civil war inflicted on his country by outside forces:

Red Terror - Wikipedia

"The Red Terror was a period of political repression and mass killings carried out by Bolsheviks after the beginning of the Russian Civil War in 1918.

"The term is usually applied to Bolshevik political repression during the Civil War (1917–1922),[1][2] as distinguished from the White Terror carried out by the White Army (Russian and non-Russian groups opposed to Bolshevik rule) against their political enemies (including the Bolsheviks)"

The way that you unfairly mis characterize the military actions of the US, in the Middle East, while giving the totalitarian mass murderer Lenin a benefit of a doubt,


shows what you are, commie.

 

[Correll]

They provided an income and healthcare. Of course those are bad in commie world. In commie world the state provides your endless supply of screw jobs and ineptitude.

They provided an income and healthcare. Of course those are bad in commie world. In commie world the state provides your endless supply of screw jobs and ineptitude.

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

"In worker self-management, each productive enterprise is controlled by those who work there.

"Workers are responsible for the operation of the facility, including organization, discipline, production techniques, and the nature, price, and distribution of products. Decisions concerning distribution are made democratically.

"Problems of authority delegation are solved by democratic representation.

"Management is chosen by the worker, not appointed by the State, not elected by the community at large and not selected by a board of directors elected by stockholders. Ultimate authority rests with the enterprise's workers, following the one-person, one-vote principle."
Why do capitalists fear democracy?

N.B.A. Executive’s Hong Kong Tweet Starts Firestorm in China

You system has failed repeatedly. It has been tried before. It was even tried here at the onset of the colonies and it failed.

You system has failed repeatedly. It has been tried before. It was even tried here at the onset of the colonies and it failed.

Capitalism is failing most Americans today, and it's the profit motive that's responsible:

Economic democracy - Wikipedia

"According to many analysts, deficiency of effective demand is the most fundamental economic problem.

"That is, modern society does not earn enough income to purchase its output.

"For example, geographer David Harvey claims, 'Workers spending their wages is one source of effective demand, but the total wage bill is always less than the total capital in circulation (otherwise there would be no profit), so the purchase of wage goods that sustain daily life (even with a suburban lifestyle) is never sufficient for the profitable sale of the total output'".

Said the man that supports a system that generally produces mass grave and genocide.


Your complaints are not credible.

Said the man that supports a system that generally produces mass grave and genocide.

The country you defend was built on genocide.

Transatlantic Slave Trade, A Five Hundred-Year-Old Shared History - Los Angeles Sentinel

Do you not see the hypocrisy?

Slavery built the Plantation system, that enriched a certain class of people in the South. Until it was destroyed.


The nation as a whole was more built by the labor of Free Men, building up the colonies, and later the States and spreading west.


The slave holding South, began lagging behind the Free North, in population and economic growth, almost immediately from the founding of this nation.


Your world view is an invention to justify your hate of this nation, and your love of blood soaked communism.

 

[georgephillip]

Donald Trump was born into the ruling class.
He was a millionaire by age eight.
Racism was likely a staple of his childhood.
He gets a pass today because of his alleged "well earned wealth" when, in reality, everything he's accomplished sprang from an accident of birth.
He's the corrupt crony-capitalist who cut out the malignant middleman.

Trump, racism and capitalism

"Let there be no mistake about it. Donald Trump has the blood of all those killed and wounded in the mass shootings of the recent past on his hands, from Gilroy, Calif.; to El Paso, Texas; to Dayton, Ohio.

"And let there be no mistake about it. Trump speaks the mind of the ruling class.

"Just days after the racist mass shootings, millionaires and billionaires travelled to the Hamptons on New York’s Long Island to give him $12 million in one night at a gala celebration.

"His racism, his misogyny, his bigotry, openly spouted from his guttermouth, are part of a deliberate strategy to mobilize the like-minded racists, bigots and male chauvinists to come out and vote for him in 2020."

What’s Going On With All Those House GOP Retirements?

Free Market Capitalism: The reason the U.S., became one of the greatest nations on earth. Leninist/Marxist nations stifle innovation, thus necessitating their operatives to go to the U.S. and other free-market capitalist nations and steal technologies. Millions of people have fled Leninist/Marxist countries seeking the freedoms offered and when coming here, haven't wanted to return. The Leninist/Marxist nations have two classes of people. The government bureaucrats oppressing the people and the oppressed poor. Here in the U.S. we have people in all spectrums of income and less poor. Here, even our poor have a roof over their heads, lights, heat in the winter, cellphones, tv's, food on the table and some form of work. The homeless you hear about, for the most party, fall into a few categories: alcohol/drug addicts that have become non-functional, the mentally-ill, drifting criminals, those that actually prefer to "stay-off-the-grid," and those that just had some bad breaks in life, however, many nations have homeless people, we just have less.
George Soros' plan has been to flood the more affluent nations with third-world people, mostly Muslims in Europe and thus be able to pay employees less.
As for Trump....yes, he was born into a rich family, just as children of the newly rich silicone valley startups have been. If individuals have an idea and can make money legally from them, they should and if their ideas manage to make them rich, more power to them. I'm not rich, I'm in the lower-middle-class spectrum, but have no problem if a person makes it rich, provides his/her children with the riches; he/she earned it and if he/she doesn't want to share his riches with those that are less fortunate, that's fine. He earned it, those not directly related to him, didn't.
Despite claims to the contrary, Trump didn't make racist claims about those coming over the border. He said "SOME" of those coming over our southern border were, murderers, rapists and thieves. That was a factual statement. That's why nations have border control, to vet those coming in to reduce the likelihood that such individuals would get through. He's opened up opportunity zones in the inner cities to aid those living in those regions.
Bottom line: He's doing what the people who voted for him, wanted him to do.
A. Reduce regulations that stifle business opportunities, thus opening up jobs.
B. Stop the massive influx of illegal migrants at the southern border (their skin color is irrelevant, if it was a massive influx of Swedes, we'd still want the southern border controlled better).
C. Rebuild our depleted military.
D. Protect our Constitution and its Amendments (and thus, our liberties).

Free Market Capitalism: The reason the U.S., became one of the greatest nations on earth. Leninist/Marxist nations stifle innovation, thus necessitating their operatives to go to the U.S. and other free-market capitalist nations and steal technologies.

When you refer to "free" markets, do you mean markets free from government regulation or free from monopoly rents?

Mixed economies and monopoly | Michael Hudson

"In the 20th century’s Progressive Era a century ago, a 'mixed economy' meant keeping natural monopolies in the public sector: transportation, the post office, education, health care, and so forth.

"The aim was to save the economy from monopoly rent by a either direct public ownership or government regulation to prevent price gouging by monopolies.

"The kind of 'mixed economy' envisioned by Adam Smith, John Stuart Mill and other classical 19thcentury free market economists aimed at saving the economy from land rent paid to Europe’s hereditary landlord class."

 

[georgephillip]

You made an erroneous claim regarding slavery's contribution to the New England's economic development. I corrected your ignorance by pointing out chattel slavery was a First Principle of white supremacy decades before the Counter-revolution in 1776.

Textile mills in New England in the 1800s would have died without slave-produced cotton.

New York and London bond markets might have noticed "something ridiculous in nature to see an American Patriot signing resolutions of independence with one hand while holding a whip over enslaved Africans with the other", but that didn't affect their investment in King Cotton.

New England insurance companies had few moral qualms about underwriting slave labor as long as premiums were paid promptly.

US Capitalism would have been born dead without chattel slavery, and you and I owe much of our privileged lifestyle to its role; only brain-dead trolls believe otherwise.

Yep, and Bill Gates owes the broom pushers in the warehouse for the growth and development of Microsoft.
Look, you can’t fool anyone here...you do not live a privileged lifestyle...nobody living a privileged lifestyle begs for free shit daily like you do. Save your bullshit for all you twisted buddies.

Capitalists are parasites. : LateStageCapitalism

LENIN?


You would quote a mass murderer? YOu really are sub human scum.

LENIN?


You would quote a mass murderer? YOu really are sub human scum.

How many mass murderers from US History do you quote?

US leaders are engaged in mass murder as we speak in the Middle East.

Lenin's terror came during a civil war inflicted on his country by outside forces:

Red Terror - Wikipedia

"The Red Terror was a period of political repression and mass killings carried out by Bolsheviks after the beginning of the Russian Civil War in 1918.

"The term is usually applied to Bolshevik political repression during the Civil War (1917–1922),[1][2] as distinguished from the White Terror carried out by the White Army (Russian and non-Russian groups opposed to Bolshevik rule) against their political enemies (including the Bolsheviks)"

The way that you unfairly mis characterize the military actions of the US, in the Middle East, while giving the totalitarian mass murderer Lenin a benefit of a doubt,


shows what you are, commie.

The way that you unfairly mis characterize the military actions of the US, in the Middle East, while giving the totalitarian mass murderer Lenin a benefit of a doubt,

The actions of the US military and its private hired killers in the Middle East are textbook terrorism.

"ter·ror·ism
/ˈterəˌrizəm/
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noun

1. the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

terrorism definition - Google Search

Obviously, you are too brainwashed to recognize reality when it's staring you in your face.