Trump Removed from Maine Primary Ballot

[MagicMike]

Innocent.

Deal with it, vermin.

No one said he was "innocent."
McConnel said it should be up to the courts to decide his guilt, not Congress.

 

[sealybobo]

Im thinking Fascist like the DNC use this to maintain power.

Biden Could Kill Donald Trump And Not Be Prosecuted, Under Trump's Own Legal Theory​

Lawyers, including special counsel Jack Smith, warn that Trump’s theory of "presidential immunity" would allow presidents to be unaccountable tyrants.

President Joe Biden could, in theory, have Donald Trump abducted from his Mar-a-Lago home, spirited off to St. Helena in the faraway South Atlantic, and secretly kept there indefinitely, or even straight-up killed, without ever having to worry about criminal charges.
Or so says Donald Trump’s logic.

the former president continues to claim that commanders-in-chief can never be charged for anything they do as part of their official duties.

It’s a view that has galvanized lawyers from across the political spectrum to urge federal appellate judges to reject Trump’s claims.

Now that's fascism.

Ty Cobb, a former Trump White House lawyer and one of the signatories to an amicus brief in the case, said Trump’s argument that he should be immune from any prosecution is “no more ridiculous” than the Biden hypothetical. He said Trump’s lawyers have not been able to come up with any sound legal arguments on his behalf because there aren’t any.
“There is no legal support. That’s the reality,” he said. “It’s the same as he’s been saying for years: He could kill someone on 5th Avenue.”

In defending Trump’s action, his lawyers in a Tuesday night filing repeated Trump’s claims that he was looking into voter fraud, although the only real allegation of “fraud” was coming from Trump himself with virtually no evidence. “President Trump was carrying out his duties as chief executive to investigate the overwhelming reports of widespread election fraud,” wrote lawyers John Sauer, John Lauro and Todd Blanche, who then cited one of Trump’s own social media posts as proof.
Smith, who is prosecuting Trump on a range of charges including conspiracy and obstruction of an official proceeding based on the Jan. 6 coup attempt, said in another filing that if Trump’s analysis is correct, it would legalize a parade of tyrannical behavior.
“The defendant’s sweeping immunity claim threatens to license presidents to commit crimes to remain in office. The founders did not intend and would never have countenanced such a result,” Smith wrote

 

[jc456]

President Joe Biden could, in theory, have Donald Trump abducted from his Mar-a-Lago home,

Didn't that happen already?

 

[sealybobo]

Didn't that happen already?

Kind of. Trump did get away with everything he did. So far. 4 cases coming up though.

Trump’s immunity theory would undo the founders’ goal of avoiding an unaccountable monarchy.

Is Trump being unconstitutional here?

 

[jc456]

Kind of. Trump did get away with everything he did. So far. 4 cases coming up though.

Trump’s immunity theory would undo the founders’ goal of avoiding an unaccountable monarchy.

Is Trump being unconstitutional here?

No theory then, harassment right away

 

[sealybobo]

No theory then, harassment right away

I love it that you guys are going full nazi. All in on that. And hoping Americans are dumb enough to fall for it again in November. You are relying on polls. The same polls that showed Hillary was killing Trump Jan 2015. LOL.

 

[jc456]

I love it that you guys are going full nazi. All in on that. And hoping Americans are dumb enough to fall for it again in November. You are relying on polls. The same polls that showed Hillary was killing Trump Jan 2015. LOL.

Just truths. What is false?

 

[sealybobo]

Just truths. What is false?

Nothing's false. From your perspective you want a dictator who abuses the law. That's the truth. But not Biden. Biden can't do what Trump wants to do. If Trump's theory is right, Biden should take Trump out now. He's above the law. Whatever he does as president is legal. Immune from prosecution. That'll be our October Surprise.

 

[jc456]

nt a dictator who abuses the law

No laws broken, so that’s false, see, no truth for you

 

[Lastamender]

Nothing's false. From your perspective you want a dictator who abuses the law. That's the truth. But not Biden. Biden can't do what Trump wants to do. If Trump's theory is right, Biden should take Trump out now. He's above the law. Whatever he does as president is legal. Immune from prosecution. That'll be our October Surprise.

Then he is in luck because that is what we have right now.

 

[Blaster]

Trump’s immunity theory would undo the founders’ goal of avoiding an unaccountable monarchy.

Nonsense.

 

[sealybobo]

Then he is in luck because that is what we have right now.

Nonsense

President Joe Biden could, in theory, have Donald Trump abducted from his Mar-a-Lago home, spirited off to St. Helena in the faraway South Atlantic, and secretly kept there indefinitely, or even straight-up killed, without ever having to worry about criminal charges.
Or so says Donald Trump’s logic.
As part of his arguments against special counsel Jack Smith’s federal case against him for his actions leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection, the former president continues to claim that commanders-in-chief can never be charged for anything they do as part of their official duties.

 

[Lastamender]

Nonsense

President Joe Biden could, in theory, have Donald Trump abducted from his Mar-a-Lago home, spirited off to St. Helena in the faraway South Atlantic, and secretly kept there indefinitely, or even straight-up killed, without ever having to worry about criminal charges.
Or so says Donald Trump’s logic.
As part of his arguments against special counsel Jack Smith’s federal case against him for his actions leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection, the former president continues to claim that commanders-in-chief can never be charged for anything they do as part of their official duties.

They have no problem abusing power and I would not put anything past them. They murder people regularly.

 

[eagle1462010]

I love it that you guys are going full nazi. All in on that. And hoping Americans are dumb enough to fall for it again in November. You are relying on polls. The same polls that showed Hillary was killing Trump Jan 2015. LOL.

You talking to yourself again?

 

[Synthaholic]

Ok, so let’s just remove all names from ballots.

No, just insurrectionists. No need to create extra burdens for law-abiding candidates.

 

[Synthaholic]

From Brian Beutler's recent newsletter:


One of the only amusing things about the debate over disqualifying Donald Trump for the presidency is watching conservatives throw originalism overboard in favor of Whatever Interpretive Legal Method Might Salvage Trump’s Candidacy.

Self-professed originalists claim to believe that the Constitution and the law should be interpreted as understood by their framers at the time of adoption. Conservatives typically extol originalism because limited interpretive methods make it easier for them to treat right-wing dogmas as binding on governments and citizens. The framers didn’t understand equal protection or due process to create civil equality for gay people, so the Constitution can’t be read to establish a right to same-sex marriage. Ta-da!

Their difficulty now stems from the fact that the arguments for disqualifying Trump on 14th amendment grounds are originalist in nature. Trump supporters and anti-anti-Trump conservatives (and even some squeamish liberals) thus have two choices: mangle the construction of the 14th amendment in various ways, or retreat to a kind of living constitutionalism (disguised as “judicial restraint”) in which the 14th amendment doesn’t apply to Donald Trump because applying it to him feels somehow inapposite.

 

[Delldude]

Only in a criminal case.

Civil case also.

 

[Nostra]

No one said he was "innocent."
McConnel said it should be up to the courts to decide his guilt, not Congress.

Senators vote guilty or not guilty, Simp.

I provided the definition of not guilty meaning “innocent”

The Senate found him innocent, Moron.

 

[sealybobo]

They have no problem abusing power and I would not put anything past them. They murder people regularly.

Of course. Republicans been feeding you those ideas for years. Now when it turns out it's true about your guy, suddenly it's okay with you. Because in your mind, we did it too. Only we didn't. You're a nazi simple. Now I see how Hitler did it. We looked at weird looking Hitler and wonder how did Germans fall for that. He was clearly evil. But Republicans don't see it in Trump

He could shoot someone one 5th ave. And according to Trump, so could Biden. Legally. Do you agree with Trump?

 

[Nostra]

Of course. Republicans been feeding you those ideas for years. Now when it turns out it's true about your guy, suddenly it's okay with you. Because in your mind, we did it too. Only we didn't. You're a nazi simple. Now I see how Hitler did it. We looked at weird looking Hitler and wonder how did Germans fall for that. He was clearly evil. But Republicans don't see it in Trump

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He could shoot someone one 5th ave. And according to Trump, so could Biden. Legally. Do you agree with Trump?