Trump: “Take the vaccine! I did.”

[Rigby5]

There is and you know it. I stopped right there.

I dislike Trump, so hate to say he was right, but he was right to say the panic over covid was over blown and very harmful.
We could have and should have ended covid quickly, in the first 2 weeks.
There are many ways to do that, like full quarantine, or the opposite where you achieve herd immunity by deliberate variolation of those unlikely to die.
But "flattening the curve" for 1.5 years was the worse possible strategy and killed over 550,000 people unnecessarily.

 

[Confederate Soldier]

There is and you know it. I stopped right there.

We will agree to disagree, because it all has to come down to context.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I dislike Trump, so hate to say he was right, but he was right to say the panic over covid was over blown and very harmful.

Well that's an adorable little whitewashing of trump's comments. I think I will leave you to it, Mrs. trump.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

We will agree to disagree, because it all has to come down to context.

Nah, you're lying. You know the difference.

 

[Correll]

Good for Trump. Let’s see more of this!

Kudos to you, for giving supporting Trump on doing something you agree with, without any qualifiers or backwards insults.

I will try to remember this as evidence of you having some intellectual honesty and/or moral courage.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Kudos to you, for giving supporting Trump on doing something you agree with, without any qualifiers or backwards insults.

I will try to remember this as evidence of you having some intellectual honesty and/or moral courage.

Well, to be fair, this is the minimum we should expect from adults without severe brain damage.

 

[Correll]

Well, to be fair, this is the minimum we should expect from adults without severe brain damage.

That's the type of undermining that Toro did not engage in. Good for him.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That's the type of undermining that Toro did not engage in. Good for him.

I am not praising a grown man in a position of leadership for saying what small children know. But you go right ahead and set that bar as low as you like. Trump will manage to get under it eventually.

 

[Correll]

I am not praising a grown man in a position of leadership for saying what small children know. But you go right ahead and set that bar as low as you like. Trump will manage to get under it eventually.

The bar I am talking about, is for Toro. He cleared it perfectly and I am giving him credit for that.

Toro engaged in good faith discussion and gave credit to his political opposite.


I am trying to do the same.


You are trying to sabotage that process, even in this small incident.

 

[Rigby5]

Well, to be fair, this is the minimum we should expect from adults without severe brain damage.

Well who do you support more, Alex Jones or Trump?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Well who do you support more, Alex Jones or Trump?

Which one scrapes off my shoe the most easily?

 

[schmidlap]

I didnt realize trump was a doctor and qualified to give medical advice,,,

What you didn't realize is that even Trump has the capacity to abandon the ideological claptrap and respect the empirical data of folks far more knowledgable than hardcore ideologues who venerate failed casino operators in matters of public health.

​ The U.S. has a far higher share of older adults without full vaccine protection than many other wealthy countries, and it has made the Delta wave deadlier.​

​ Younger, unvaccinated adults are making up an increasing share of new hospital visits, but a vast majority of people dying from Covid-19 are older and unvaccinated. In many counties, especially in the South and the Mountain West, seniors without full vaccination make up more than 10 percent of the total population.​ ​

​

By contrast, unvaccinated seniors in Britain are relatively rare.​

Even London, which has higher rates of vaccine hesitancy among older adults than the rest of Britain, is far ahead of most of the U.S. in its vaccination rates.​

That discrepancy may help explain why the Delta wave has led to a higher rate of deaths, public health experts say. Although cases surged in both countries, Britain had proportionally fewer hospitalizations and deaths.​

Vaccine hesitancy is not unique to the U.S., but it is more widespread and forceful in the country than in Europe, and it breaks down more clearly along political lines...​

Signing up older Americans for vaccines is a struggle: Those who really wanted a vaccine have already gotten it. Many holdouts are resistant to immunization because of their politics and personal beliefs, or those of their friends and family...​

One central problem, Apoorva said, is the relatively low level of scientific literacy in the U.S. “We also don’t really talk about health as a public good, as a community goal,” she added...​

​

The U.S. Is Getting a Crash Course in Scientific Uncertainty

As the pandemic takes an unexpected direction, Americans again must reckon with twists in scientific understanding of the virus.

www.nytimes.com

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There is an epidemic of Typhoid Maryism in the U.S. The "Screw everybody else! I ain't doin' what no smarty pants public heath experts says!" perverts fester.

Trump Tells Alabama Rally Crowd
He Recommends the Covid​

 

[schmidlap]

Well who do you support more, Alex Jones or Trump?

It's a very close call if we're actually comparing their public health credentials.

Following the ravings of either is less sensible than consulting a lepidopterist about your hemorrhoids.

 

[Rigby5]

Which one scrapes off my shoe the most easily?

Which one scrapes off my shoe the most easily?

I get it, if Trump said the sky was blue, you would disagree.
But what about half the population that does support Trump?
Is democracy only for those who agree with you?
What if a year from now, these fake vaccines start causing massive death rates, 100 times higher than covid?
Could easily happen, since all covid deaths are actually autoimmune responses, and these fake vaccines contain the same protein spike as our own exosomes.

 

[Rigby5]

It's a very close call if we're actually comparing their public health credentials.

Following the ravings of either is less sensible than consulting a lepidopterist about your hemorrhoids.

While I agree I would never take advice from either, the problem is US health officials totally screwed up.
There are lots of possible epidemic strategies, but "flattening the curve" has got to be the single worst, dumbest, most costly, and most deadly.
A butterfly expert could have done a much better job than our CDC "experts".

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I get it, if Trump said the sky was blue, you would disagree.

I get it. You like your little strawmen.

Of course i agree with Trump when he says people should get vaccinated.

 

[frigidweirdo]

To the lefties, No, he did not make it a request.

To the Right wingers, he was only suggesting. A strong suggestion is not a command.


For those who have a short memory, he was the biggest endorser when he gave the green light for them to be made...

Yes, just a suggestion. Problem is, for these people, anyone who gets the vaccine is a [insert insult]

But Trump does it, maybe they think it's okay, anyone else does it, they hate it.

Because they can compartmentalize. Or maybe they can't, and they'll turn off Trump.

 

[Confederate Soldier]

Nah, you're lying. You know the difference.

I believe YOU are lying, you SHOULD no the difference.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I believe YOU are lying, you SHOULD no the difference.

No you don't. You have just spent so much time doubling down on lies you don't even remember how not to do it.

 

[Rigby5]

Yes, just a suggestion. Problem is, for these people, anyone who gets the vaccine is a [insert insult]

But Trump does it, maybe they think it's okay, anyone else does it, they hate it.

Because they can compartmentalize. Or maybe they can't, and they'll turn off Trump.

Who cares.
It is not inaccurate to observe that these are the worst vaccines in the history of vaccines.
Everyone should be very unhappy with these rushed and badly designed vaccines, even if now there really is not much of an alternative left, and likely everyone probably should vax.