Trump Testifies Nov 6th Addition

[WorldWatcher]

Why is that just a picture and not an actual link?

https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/executive-law/exc-sect-63/

You can't highlight the pre-image from a link. You can with a screen shot.

If you need a link, here ya go.

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[The Duke]

https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/executive-law/exc-sect-63/

You can't highlight the pre-image from a link. You can with a screen shot.

If you need a link, here ya go.

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Dadgummit! Their links go to some Reuters thing you have to sign up for.

I would think the AG has to prove some kind of "unconscionable act" was committed, and all I see is common sense

business practices practically everyone engages in.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Dadgummit! Their links go to some Reuters thing you have to sign up for.

I would think the AG has to prove some kind of "unconscionable act" was committed, and all I see is common sense

business practices practically everyone engages in.

NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov

www.nysenate.gov

The link doesn't go to Reuters, it goes to FindLaw.

But here is one directly to New York State.

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[The Duke]

NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov

www.nysenate.gov

The link doesn't go to Reuters, it goes to FindLaw.

But here is one directly to New York State.

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Okay, so where's the proof of James filing with the NY Supreme Court?

"
the attorney general
may apply, in the name of the people of the state of New York, to the
supreme court of the state of New York, on notice of five days, for an
order enjoining the continuance of such business activity or of any
fraudulent or illegal acts, directing restitution and damages and, in an
appropriate case, cancelling any certificate filed under and by virtue
of the provisions of section four hundred forty of the former penal law
or section one hundred thirty of the general business law, and the court
may award the relief applied for or so much thereof as it may deem
proper. "

NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov

www.nysenate.gov

^Tbh, it looks like that's criminal proceedings, and that's not what this James/Derpgeron or whatever thing is.

I could be wrong. Idk, they're calling that the Supreme Court of NY? Odd.



Idk, in my mind "Supreme Court of NY" would be a panel of justices interpreting State Law and their say is final.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Okay, so where's the proof of James filing with the NY Supreme Court?

"
the attorney general
may apply, in the name of the people of the state of New York, to the
supreme court of the state of New York, on notice of five days, for an
order enjoining the continuance of such business activity or of any
fraudulent or illegal acts, directing restitution and damages and, in an
appropriate case, cancelling any certificate filed under and by virtue
of the provisions of section four hundred forty of the former penal law
or section one hundred thirty of the general business law, and the court
may award the relief applied for or so much thereof as it may deem
proper. "

NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov

www.nysenate.gov

^Tbh, it looks like that's criminal proceedings, and that's not what this James/Derpgeron or whatever thing is.

I could be wrong. Idk, they're calling that the Supreme Court of NY? Odd.



Idk, in my mind "Supreme Court of NY" would be a panel of justices interpreting State Law and their say is final.

In New York the "Supreme Court" isn't the highest court.

In New York the Supreme Court is the trial level court.

If we compare it to the federal structure:

• New York Supreme Court (trial level) = Federal District Court (trial level)
• New York Appellate Division Courts (appeals) = Federal US Court of Appeals for ______ District (appeals)
• New York Court of Appeals (highest level) = United States Supreme Court

Ya, it's confusing.

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[The Duke]

In New York the "Supreme Court" isn't the highest court.

In New York the Supreme Court is the trial level court.

If we compare it to the federal structure:

• New York Supreme Court (trial level) = Federal District Court (trial level)
• New York Appellate Division Courts (appeals) = Federal US Court of Appeals for ______ District (appeals)
• New York Court of Appeals (highest level) = United States Supreme Court

Ya, it's confusing.

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TY, that does clarify things.

 

[WorldWatcher]

^Tbh, it looks like that's criminal proceedings, and that's not what this James/Derpgeron or whatever thing is.

Section 12 of the link specifically empowers the AG to bring civil cases.

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[WorldWatcher]

TY, that does clarify things.

Your are welcome, no problem.

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[The Duke]

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Section 12 of the link specifically empowers the AG to bring civil cases.

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Yes. Passed in 2022.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Yes. Passed in 2022.

I assume you mean this date at the top of the page. That isn't the date the law was passed (or amended) that is the last updated on the web page. (And that doesn't just language was changed, it could have been a typo fix or a change in any of the other 18 paragraphs on that page.)

I don't know the full history of the law, but it goes back at least 46 years and has been used prior to 2022:

• People v. Barclays Capital, Inc., 47 Misc. 3d 862, 871 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. 2015)
• New York v. Princess Prestige, 42 N.Y.2d 104 (N.Y. 1977)

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[Marener]

Bullshit

Sure. He denied having anything to do with the statements then was shown that he signed off on them.

Dude lied through his teeth.

 

[BackAgain]

Sure. He denied having anything to do with the statements then was shown that he signed off on them.

Dude lied through his teeth.

False. Signing off on them isn’t the same as having anything to do with their preparation — even if they were somehow inaccurate.

You’re a hack.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

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Incorrect, and FPOTUS#45 and Trump Organization have already been found to be liable for fraud and illegal business practices under NYS 63(12) above.

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New York was never defrauded
New York never gave Trump a loan.
And fyi you're using a statute that shows where someone had already been convicted of fraud in a criminal trial. That statute can should only be used if the state believes a victim never received proper compensation

 

[toobfreak]

What will the Donald do?

Go home a free man as he will always do?
Then win on his every appeal these circus show trials.

 

[WorldWatcher]

New York was never defrauded

Sure, they were, FPOTUS#45 has already been found liable for it.

New York never gave Trump a loan.

Never said they did, not did the statue say that was required.

And fyi you're using a statute that shows where someone had already been convicted of fraud in a criminal trial. That statute can should only be used if the state believes a victim never received proper compensation

Nope, it does not. It empowers the AG to bring a civil suit and has been used as such back to at least 1977.

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[WEATHER53]

So is judge continuing to roll out the carpet for mistrial by telling Trump how he can talk?

 

[Marener]

False. Signing off on them isn’t the same as having anything to do with their preparation — even if they were somehow inaccurate.

You’re a hack.

WTF do you think signing off on them means?

These guys are supposed to be so smart but we are supposed to accept they just sign shit without knowing what they’re doing?

 

[BackAgain]

WTF do you think signing off on them means?

These guys are supposed to be so smart but we are supposed to accept they just sign shit without knowing what they’re doing?

You clearly missed the thrust of their testimony. Plus you’re willfully obtuse.

If you are a CEO of a big company, you aren’t required to be an accountant. Like they say they did, you’d be entitled to rely on the expertise of actual experts.

When you sign off on such financial documents you are saying that to the best of your own knowledge, information and belief, the statements are true.

And that’s all it means. Your ignorance is astounding and amusing.

 

[Marener]

You clearly missed the thrust of their testimony. Plus you’re willfully obtuse.

If you are a CEO of a big company, you aren’t required to be an accountant. Like they say they did, you’d be entitled to rely on the expertise of actual experts.

When you sign off on such financial documents you are saying that to the best of your own knowledge, information and belief, the statements are true.

And that’s all it means. Your ignorance is astounding and amusing.

We are simultaneously supposed to believe these guys are brilliant real estate magnates who don’t know how to read a financial statement.

The excuses you make for these losers is astounding.

 

[WorldWatcher]

So is judge continuing to roll out the carpet for mistrial by telling Trump how he can talk?

You going to be very disappointed if you think there is going to be a mistrial because the Judge tried to make the witness answer the question asked instead of going on a screed about politics and how he his the victim.

That is what Judge's are supposed to do.

Just say'n.

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