trump Threatens Virus Funding After Michigan Absentee Ballot Move

[CrusaderFrank]

This is disgusting.

What the secretary of the state has done is very legal and above board.

There is no clear way for trump to withhold virus funding because of this.

It just seems to me that trump is doing all he can to tick off the people of Michigan to get them to not vote for him.

Intelligent people know why he's doing this. He knows if everyone in Michigan is allowed to vote, trump loses Michigan.

Trump threatens funding after Michigan absentee ballot move

We need to stop democrats from cheating their way into office. In 2016, they had to stop the MI recount because more votes were cast in Detroit than they had people.

democrats cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat

 

[Lysistrata]

This is disgusting.

What the secretary of the state has done is very legal and above board.

There is no clear way for trump to withhold virus funding because of this.

It just seems to me that trump is doing all he can to tick off the people of Michigan to get them to not vote for him.

Intelligent people know why he's doing this. He knows if everyone in Michigan is allowed to vote, trump loses Michigan.

Trump threatens funding after Michigan absentee ballot move

I agree with this. The state is certainly in its right to determine how they handle their elections. I don't see any way the president can legally withhold funding over this. That said, there are some legitimate concerns over strictly mail-in voting. There has been an article posted a couple of times in other threads showing around 28 million mail in ballots were lost between 2012 and 2018. That's a lot of people's votes who didn't get counted and that's just one reason why I'm iffy on a completely mail-in election. Furthermore, the couple of states that already do completely mail-in elections spent years setting up that system to ensure it was reliable. They weren't implementing it on the fly. I'm concerned if states like Michigan and others do this for the general election we could end up with another Florida 2000 crisis.

I have seen no scientific evidence that standing in line to vote is any more or less risky than going to you grocery store and I don't feel like asking people to stand in line to vote once or twice a year is over the top. Many people in the world don't get this opportunity and we take it for granted.

I don't see how it is appropriate either, but for fuck's sake!!! Payback is a bitch, and this is a serious issue with legitimate fraud concerns.

(remember: "by any means necessary" and "the ends justify the means")

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There never was any evidence of voter fraud, though, and it has been requested time and again.

 

[Dana7360]

Sometimes, cuz.............Trump, the Idiot-in-Chief says the quiet things out loud.

Trump just comes out and says it: The GOP is hurt when it’s easier to vote

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/30/trump-voting-republicans/

President Trump on Monday morning became the latest in a procession of Republicans to say making it easier for more people to vote would hurt his party politically.
In an interview on “Fox & Friends,” Trump referenced proposals from Democrats in the coronavirus stimulus negotiations that would have vastly increased funding for absentee and vote-by-mail options. The final package included $400 million for the effort, which was far less than what Democrats had sought.
“The things they had in there were crazy,” Trump said. “They had things — levels of voting that, if you ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again.”
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The Obstructionist-in-Chief admits the truth. A rare occurrence. Trumpleheads, they just turn away and pretend it never happened.

What it really reveals is that republicans know they aren't wanted in office by the majority of the people and they have been obstructing the will of the people for years. They know that the only way they can win an election is by cheating. And they have no problem with cheating.

It tells me they have nothing but contempt for our constitution and the people of our nation. They aren't the will of the people. They aren't a government of, by and for the people.

I will never understand why people allow republicans to get away with all the cheating and garbage they get away with for so long.

 

[Billy000]

This is disgusting.

What the secretary of the state has done is very legal and above board.

There is no clear way for trump to withhold virus funding because of this.

It just seems to me that trump is doing all he can to tick off the people of Michigan to get them to not vote for him.

Intelligent people know why he's doing this. He knows if everyone in Michigan is allowed to vote, trump loses Michigan.

Trump threatens funding after Michigan absentee ballot move

This fucking moronic hypocrite voted by mail in March.

 

[Billy000]

Almost as bad as threatening education money over letting boys shower with girls, huh?

You people are so pathetic. Deflection is all you are capable of intellectually I guess. You come across like 8th graders. “But democrats did this! Derp!”

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

There has been an article posted a couple of times in other threads showing around 28 million mail in ballots were lost between 2012 and 2018. That's a lot of people's votes who didn't get counted and that's just one reason why I'm iffy on a completely mail-in election.

Weird, I've been voting by mail for 20 years and my vote has been registered every time. Where is the article?!?

 

[Billy000]

The dems are trying to set the stage for huge voter fraud in November....I hope the Trump campaign and the RNC are up to speed....

Lol you dumbasses will defend that idiot regardless of what he says or does. Trump himself voted in March by mail.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Is it time to just lock and load and forget this bullshit "union"?

Go for it. Be the change you seek.

 

[Jitss617]

This is disgusting.

What the secretary of the state has done is very legal and above board.

There is no clear way for trump to withhold virus funding because of this.

It just seems to me that trump is doing all he can to tick off the people of Michigan to get them to not vote for him.

Intelligent people know why he's doing this. He knows if everyone in Michigan is allowed to vote, trump loses Michigan.

Trump threatens funding after Michigan absentee ballot move

No democracy for Michigan voters is more deep then funding

 

[Rambunctious]

The dems are trying to set the stage for huge voter fraud in November....I hope the Trump campaign and the RNC are up to speed....

Lol you dumbasses will defend that idiot regardless of what he says or does. Trump himself voted in March by mail.

So did Yosemite Sam....and Micky Mouse and my dead democrat neighbor.....

 

[Deleted member 73486]

Trump is already playing favorites with states based on how early and aggressively they are opening up. Mail-in voting is of course a sticking point with Trump, since he already opened his huge mouth and said that Republicans would never win another election if they allowed it.

 

[Billy000]

The dems are trying to set the stage for huge voter fraud in November....I hope the Trump campaign and the RNC are up to speed....

Lol you dumbasses will defend that idiot regardless of what he says or does. Trump himself voted in March by mail.

So did Yosemite Sam....and Micky Mouse and my dead democrat neighbor.....

Dead people don’t cast votes. Just because there are dead people on registration rolls, it doesn’t mean they are magically casting votes. You get that right? There is no evidence of voter fraud by mail. Either way, Trump himself voted by mail. You can pretend that he didn’t happen all you want but it is what it is. Be an adult about this, okay?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

It does not matter what Trump or the feds think of this - it is not in their power to threaten anything over state election processes - they are the SOLE power of the state.

The practice of feds taxing the citizens to the max and then granting funds back to the states is asinine in the extreme and should have been ruled unconstitutional long ago rather than upheld. It makes the entire idea of federalism a joke.

Not really surprised that the side that is supposedly for states rights suddenly abandons those core convictions though...

I agree with you, but how long does one party get to abuse such power without a counterbalance?

Is it time to just lock and load and forget this bullshit "union"?

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One party will abuse it forever as long as the other one abdicates its responsibility by doing the same shit.

True. But, it's more OUR responsibility than some political party. At some point, we need to lock and load.

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Dead people don’t cast votes. Just because there are dead people on registration rolls, it doesn’t mean they are magically casting votes.

Right, but if nobody is checking IDs, grandma can make sure grandpa keeps voting for years after his death via their son or a neighbor.

Do you really believe that shit doesn't happen when we have proof that it, in fact, DID happen in LA?

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/201...-votes-being-cast-from-grave-year-after-year/.

 

[Billy000]

Dead people don’t cast votes. Just because there are dead people on registration rolls, it doesn’t mean they are magically casting votes.

Right, but if nobody is checking IDs, grandma can make sure grandpa keeps voting for years after his death via their son or a neighbor.

Do you really believe that shit doesn't happen when we have proof that it, in fact, DID happen in LA?

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/201...-votes-being-cast-from-grave-year-after-year/.

Christ I really question the validity of this because they can’t even determine HOW this even happened. Either way, those numbers are minuscule and would not even come close to changing an election. Hell those votes came from opposing parties to cancel each other out lol. This is just non sense

 

[Billy000]

It does not matter what Trump or the feds think of this - it is not in their power to threaten anything over state election processes - they are the SOLE power of the state.

The practice of feds taxing the citizens to the max and then granting funds back to the states is asinine in the extreme and should have been ruled unconstitutional long ago rather than upheld. It makes the entire idea of federalism a joke.

Not really surprised that the side that is supposedly for states rights suddenly abandons those core convictions though...

I agree with you, but how long does one party get to abuse such power without a counterbalance?

Is it time to just lock and load and forget this bullshit "union"?

.

One party will abuse it forever as long as the other one abdicates its responsibility by doing the same shit.

True. But, it's more OUR responsibility than some political party. At some point, we need to lock and load.

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You assholes didn’t give two shits about voter fraud until the GOP told you to care during the 2012 election. Gee what convenient timing!

 

[TNHarley]

Almost as bad as threatening education money over letting boys shower with girls, huh?

You people are so pathetic. Deflection is all you are capable of intellectually I guess. You come across like 8th graders. “But democrats did this! Derp!”

"Almost as bad" didnt do it for you, dumbfuck?
Presidents abuse their power to push their agenda. That was my point.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Dead people don’t cast votes. Just because there are dead people on registration rolls, it doesn’t mean they are magically casting votes.

Right, but if nobody is checking IDs, grandma can make sure grandpa keeps voting for years after his death via their son or a neighbor.

Do you really believe that shit doesn't happen when we have proof that it, in fact, DID happen in LA?

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/201...-votes-being-cast-from-grave-year-after-year/.

Christ I really question the validity of this because they can’t even determine HOW this even happened. Either way, those numbers are minuscule and would not even come close to changing an election. Hell those votes came from opposing parties to cancel each other out lol. This is just non sense

Do you know why you can't determine how it happened? Because there's no fucking voter ID law. Anybody can walk in and say they're dead uncle Joe and go cast a vote on his behalf. Nobody checks.

Are you deliberately being a retarded fuck or is this nature?

You said yourself that it is difficult to prove. Why allow a method that is suseptable to fraud, UNLESS you want to cheat?

And that's the real issue. You commie shits want to win and bring forth your revolution of misery by any means necessary. That includes cheating your fucking asses off. Well, go fuck yourself. We are not going to sit back and just let it happen.

It is time to lock and load.

It is time to start voting with lead.

Either you motherfuckers will stop you're cheating or we will bring a revolution of our own!!!

Kill a commie for mommy.

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

It does not matter what Trump or the feds think of this - it is not in their power to threaten anything over state election processes - they are the SOLE power of the state.

The practice of feds taxing the citizens to the max and then granting funds back to the states is asinine in the extreme and should have been ruled unconstitutional long ago rather than upheld. It makes the entire idea of federalism a joke.

Not really surprised that the side that is supposedly for states rights suddenly abandons those core convictions though...

I agree with you, but how long does one party get to abuse such power without a counterbalance?

Is it time to just lock and load and forget this bullshit "union"?

.

One party will abuse it forever as long as the other one abdicates its responsibility by doing the same shit.

True. But, it's more OUR responsibility than some political party. At some point, we need to lock and load.

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You assholes didn’t give two shits about voter fraud until the GOP told you to care during the 2012 election. Gee what convenient timing!

I'm guessing you're in your mid 20s, am I right? Young, dumb, and full of cum?

This has been an issue for decades.

You only think it started in 2012 because evidence started to mount that illegals and dead people were voting for Democrats at an alarming rate.

Obama all but confirmed it when he told illegals to go out and vote for Hillary Clinton.

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Illegals won't be investigated or charged. Nobody will check, right Barry?

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