Trump to declare national emergency

[Rambunctious]

This is a win for the Libs.

Trump has proven he cannot broker a deal and now has to admit he lost the battle with them.

Declaring a national emergency is a waving the white flag


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We are still under 7 national emergencies signed by Bush and Obama....I bet you didn't even know that did you?.....

There are declarations of national emergency that go back to Reagan. The difference in this declaration and those of the past is Trump is very explicitly going against the will of congress. Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Reagan all issued declarations of national emergency. Most of those declarations were done with the knowledge that congress supported the decision. Some were done without going to congress for approval but I can't find a one where congress said here is the money for a project and the president gave them a big Fuck You, I'll declare an emergency and take what I choose. I think this a first and hopefully the last.

Trump is obeying the wishes of the people...fuck congress they left the people as soon as the elections were over...as usual....

 

[bendog]

Irrelevant. The National Emergency has been declared, the wall will be finished.

It will be declared unconstitutional Article 1 Section 9 will stop this from happening.

Via the 9th Circuit Court....as expected. Trump is patient because he has money to start building a wall.
He even stated today that he expected a favorable decision in the US Supreme Court.

It's 100% unconstitutional and Trump's court knows that. It will be struck down.

Wow!!!!!! Where did you get your law degree, kitty?
You act like he's the first president to invoke a National Emergency.
Now run along to your kitty box, because you're full of it.

What emergency, and what Constitutional authority? Article 1 Section 9 says he doesn't have the authority. Invoking a "NE" is an emergency. El Paso is doing just fine without wall according to the authorities down there. What "NE?"

The actual emergency is the breakdown in civil discourse that used to mean that if one party or part of a party lost on an issue in the realm of public opinion and a vote, they lived with it until they could persuade a maj of voters to change.

And the other problem is simply the world of trump supporters. The wall is a symbol. It may dissuade some realtively peaceful people looking for unskilled labor jobs, but it does nothing about the people here, and coming here to stay on temp visas, or really drugs or even violent gangs. What motivates trump's base is just seeing people opposed to Trump.

 

[Brain357]

Mexico isn’t paying for it.

Why do spoiled pansy Socialists always want someone else to pay for their stuff....even national security?!

Ask trump.

 

[bendog]

This is a win for the Libs.

Trump has proven he cannot broker a deal and now has to admit he lost the battle with them.

Declaring a national emergency is a waving the white flag


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We are still under 7 national emergencies signed by Bush and Obama....I bet you didn't even know that did you?.....

There are declarations of national emergency that go back to Reagan. The difference in this declaration and those of the past is Trump is very explicitly going against the will of congress. Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Reagan all issued declarations of national emergency. Most of those declarations were done with the knowledge that congress supported the decision. Some were done without going to congress for approval but I can't find a one where congress said here is the money for a project and the president gave them a big Fuck You, I'll declare an emergency and take what I choose. I think this a first and hopefully the last.

Trump is obeying the wishes of the people...fuck congress they left the people as soon as the elections were over...as usual....

A minority of people.

 

[Rambunctious]

This is a win for the Libs.

Trump has proven he cannot broker a deal and now has to admit he lost the battle with them.

Declaring a national emergency is a waving the white flag


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

We are still under 7 national emergencies signed by Bush and Obama....I bet you didn't even know that did you?.....

There are declarations of national emergency that go back to Reagan. The difference in this declaration and those of the past is Trump is very explicitly going against the will of congress. Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Reagan all issued declarations of national emergency. Most of those declarations were done with the knowledge that congress supported the decision. Some were done without going to congress for approval but I can't find a one where congress said here is the money for a project and the president gave them a big Fuck You, I'll declare an emergency and take what I choose. I think this a first and hopefully the last.

Trump is obeying the wishes of the people...fuck congress they left the people as soon as the elections were over...as usual....

A minority of people.

You wish....

 

[Brain357]

This is a win for the Libs.

Trump has proven he cannot broker a deal and now has to admit he lost the battle with them.

Declaring a national emergency is a waving the white flag


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

We are still under 7 national emergencies signed by Bush and Obama....I bet you didn't even know that did you?.....

There are declarations of national emergency that go back to Reagan. The difference in this declaration and those of the past is Trump is very explicitly going against the will of congress. Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Reagan all issued declarations of national emergency. Most of those declarations were done with the knowledge that congress supported the decision. Some were done without going to congress for approval but I can't find a one where congress said here is the money for a project and the president gave them a big Fuck You, I'll declare an emergency and take what I choose. I think this a first and hopefully the last.

Trump is obeying the wishes of the people...fuck congress they left the people as soon as the elections were over...as usual....

That’s why repubs lost so many seats...

 

[BWK]

In 1976 with the drafting of the update of the National Emergency statute in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal and Nixon's attempt to absorb extraordinary Presidential powers, new termination laws were codified to allow Congress to reclaim their Article 1 powers assumed by the president ceded by Congress.

50 USC § 1622 contains those specifics which include termination of a Presidential declaration of a National Emergency through a nullification process if both Chambers concur with a SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE in both houses. If one Chamber votes to terminate, the other house is required to vote, and NO FILIBUSTER for the Senate.

The Speaker of the House will likely prepare the Joint Resolution soonest, and McConnell has no damn choice but to hold a vote in the Senate per the requirements of the Statute. If the Resolution gets to the Senate, it likely will have enough GOP Senators crossing the line easily. If McConnell gets smart of a sudden, he'll turn his caucus loose to vote on their own.

~~ 50 U.S. Code § 1622 - National emergencies ~~

Senator Collins already came out yesterday saying it was a mistake. She won't be the only one. Everyone who disagrees with the national emergency declaration are warning about equal hijinx by the Democrats, once one is Pres again.

They'll declare gun violence a national emergency. They'll declare climate change a national emergency, which it is. They'll declare a barrier to be a NE, and tear it down.

I would HOPE that the Democrats would not repeat the un-Constitutional works that Trump is taking us through right now, but with their recent track record, they probably would, just for shits and giggles.
So yeah, this thing needs to be nipped in the bud so that neither party tries it again for quite some time. Trump has already convinced his supporters that the newspapers are all lying so when the Mueller decision comes down it will be conveniently ignored. Now he's literally giving the Constitution the middle finger and trying to take what he wants, without permission. This is becoming serious enough to start thinking the dictator foolishness might be right. He is an old man who always ran his own company the way he wanted. He knows no other way to be.

Absolutely! This dictator has to be stopped now, in order to preserve our Constitution. Everyone will be filing law suits, so it's just a matter of time.

 

[White_MAGA_Man]

California to sue Trump over border wall emergency declaration

Everyone will because it's unconstitutional.

No it's not!

 

[Rambunctious]

This is a win for the Libs.

Trump has proven he cannot broker a deal and now has to admit he lost the battle with them.

Declaring a national emergency is a waving the white flag


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

We are still under 7 national emergencies signed by Bush and Obama....I bet you didn't even know that did you?.....

There are declarations of national emergency that go back to Reagan. The difference in this declaration and those of the past is Trump is very explicitly going against the will of congress. Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Reagan all issued declarations of national emergency. Most of those declarations were done with the knowledge that congress supported the decision. Some were done without going to congress for approval but I can't find a one where congress said here is the money for a project and the president gave them a big Fuck You, I'll declare an emergency and take what I choose. I think this a first and hopefully the last.

Trump is obeying the wishes of the people...fuck congress they left the people as soon as the elections were over...as usual....

That’s why repubs lost so many seats...

No the reason the GOP lost the house is so many of them retired....like 40 of them leaving unknowns to run in their place....the dems will lose it back in the next election.....open borders and killing babies will guarantee it....

 

[easyt65]

That would be you right?

No, that would be AOC who includes in her Green Socialist Nightmare Bill the plan to provide 'economic security' to lazy spocialists who CHOOSE not to work and prefer to sit on their ass and collect a check from tax payers.

That would be baby-killers who want someone else to pay for their abortions.

That would be socialists who want the nations that has facilitated the dumping of approx. 20 MILLION illegals into the US and whose economy depends on US dollars sent back by illegals in the US and on 'Foreign Subsidies' we also pay them.

 

[White_MAGA_Man]

In 1976 with the drafting of the update of the National Emergency statute in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal and Nixon's attempt to absorb extraordinary Presidential powers, new termination laws were codified to allow Congress to reclaim their Article 1 powers assumed by the president ceded by Congress.

50 USC § 1622 contains those specifics which include termination of a Presidential declaration of a National Emergency through a nullification process if both Chambers concur with a SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE in both houses. If one Chamber votes to terminate, the other house is required to vote, and NO FILIBUSTER for the Senate.

The Speaker of the House will likely prepare the Joint Resolution soonest, and McConnell has no damn choice but to hold a vote in the Senate per the requirements of the Statute. If the Resolution gets to the Senate, it likely will have enough GOP Senators crossing the line easily. If McConnell gets smart of a sudden, he'll turn his caucus loose to vote on their own.

~~ 50 U.S. Code § 1622 - National emergencies ~~

Senator Collins already came out yesterday saying it was a mistake. She won't be the only one. Everyone who disagrees with the national emergency declaration are warning about equal hijinx by the Democrats, once one is Pres again.

They'll declare gun violence a national emergency. They'll declare climate change a national emergency, which it is. They'll declare a barrier to be a NE, and tear it down.

I would HOPE that the Democrats would not repeat the un-Constitutional works that Trump is taking us through right now, but with their recent track record, they probably would, just for shits and giggles.
So yeah, this thing needs to be nipped in the bud so that neither party tries it again for quite some time. Trump has already convinced his supporters that the newspapers are all lying so when the Mueller decision comes down it will be conveniently ignored. Now he's literally giving the Constitution the middle finger and trying to take what he wants, without permission. This is becoming serious enough to start thinking the dictator foolishness might be right. He is an old man who always ran his own company the way he wanted. He knows no other way to be.

Absolutely! This dictator has to be stopped now, in order to preserve our Constitution. Everyone will be filing law suits, so it's just a matter of time.

The president has the authority to declare this national emergency in order to stop this invasion of pure criminals.

 

[JGalt]

In 1976 with the drafting of the update of the National Emergency statute in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal and Nixon's attempt to absorb extraordinary Presidential powers, new termination laws were codified to allow Congress to reclaim their Article 1 powers assumed by the president ceded by Congress.

50 USC § 1622 contains those specifics which include termination of a Presidential declaration of a National Emergency through a nullification process if both Chambers concur with a SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE in both houses. If one Chamber votes to terminate, the other house is required to vote, and NO FILIBUSTER for the Senate.

The Speaker of the House will likely prepare the Joint Resolution soonest, and McConnell has no damn choice but to hold a vote in the Senate per the requirements of the Statute. If the Resolution gets to the Senate, it likely will have enough GOP Senators crossing the line easily. If McConnell gets smart of a sudden, he'll turn his caucus loose to vote on their own.

~~ 50 U.S. Code § 1622 - National emergencies ~~

Senator Collins already came out yesterday saying it was a mistake. She won't be the only one. Everyone who disagrees with the national emergency declaration are warning about equal hijinx by the Democrats, once one is Pres again.

They'll declare gun violence a national emergency. They'll declare climate change a national emergency, which it is. They'll declare a barrier to be a NE, and tear it down.

Just stop already. Everyone knows why your people's panties are in a bunch over this: You don't want to see Trump elected for a second term. It has nothing to do with a wall or a national emergency. It's all about losing again in 2020.

Mexico isn’t paying for it.

I don't give a rat's ass who pays for it, just get it built. Do you zipperheads really think President Trump is going to lose any support over this?

 

[Brain357]

This is a win for the Libs.

Trump has proven he cannot broker a deal and now has to admit he lost the battle with them.

Declaring a national emergency is a waving the white flag


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

We are still under 7 national emergencies signed by Bush and Obama....I bet you didn't even know that did you?.....

There are declarations of national emergency that go back to Reagan. The difference in this declaration and those of the past is Trump is very explicitly going against the will of congress. Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Reagan all issued declarations of national emergency. Most of those declarations were done with the knowledge that congress supported the decision. Some were done without going to congress for approval but I can't find a one where congress said here is the money for a project and the president gave them a big Fuck You, I'll declare an emergency and take what I choose. I think this a first and hopefully the last.

Trump is obeying the wishes of the people...fuck congress they left the people as soon as the elections were over...as usual....

That’s why repubs lost so many seats...

No the reason the GOP lost the house is so many of them retired....like 40 of them leaving unknowns to run in their place....the dems will lose it back in the next election.....open borders and killing babies will guarantee it....

Repubs had two years to fix killing babies. They don’t seem to want to.

 

[Brain357]

In 1976 with the drafting of the update of the National Emergency statute in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal and Nixon's attempt to absorb extraordinary Presidential powers, new termination laws were codified to allow Congress to reclaim their Article 1 powers assumed by the president ceded by Congress.

50 USC § 1622 contains those specifics which include termination of a Presidential declaration of a National Emergency through a nullification process if both Chambers concur with a SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE in both houses. If one Chamber votes to terminate, the other house is required to vote, and NO FILIBUSTER for the Senate.

The Speaker of the House will likely prepare the Joint Resolution soonest, and McConnell has no damn choice but to hold a vote in the Senate per the requirements of the Statute. If the Resolution gets to the Senate, it likely will have enough GOP Senators crossing the line easily. If McConnell gets smart of a sudden, he'll turn his caucus loose to vote on their own.

~~ 50 U.S. Code § 1622 - National emergencies ~~

Senator Collins already came out yesterday saying it was a mistake. She won't be the only one. Everyone who disagrees with the national emergency declaration are warning about equal hijinx by the Democrats, once one is Pres again.

They'll declare gun violence a national emergency. They'll declare climate change a national emergency, which it is. They'll declare a barrier to be a NE, and tear it down.

Just stop already. Everyone knows why your people's panties are in a bunch over this: You don't want to see Trump elected for a second term. It has nothing to do with a wall or a national emergency. It's all about losing again in 2020.

Mexico isn’t paying for it.

I don't give a rat's ass who pays for it, just get it built. Do you zipperheads really think President Trump is going to lose any support over this?

Some people still care about honesty.

 

[easyt65]

In 1976 with the drafting of the update of the National Emergency statute in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal and Nixon's attempt to absorb extraordinary Presidential powers, new termination laws were codified to allow Congress to reclaim their Article 1 powers assumed by the president ceded by Congress.

50 USC § 1622 contains those specifics which include termination of a Presidential declaration of a National Emergency through a nullification process if both Chambers concur with a SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE in both houses. If one Chamber votes to terminate, the other house is required to vote, and NO FILIBUSTER for the Senate.

The Speaker of the House will likely prepare the Joint Resolution soonest, and McConnell has no damn choice but to hold a vote in the Senate per the requirements of the Statute. If the Resolution gets to the Senate, it likely will have enough GOP Senators crossing the line easily. If McConnell gets smart of a sudden, he'll turn his caucus loose to vote on their own.

~~ 50 U.S. Code § 1622 - National emergencies ~~

Senator Collins already came out yesterday saying it was a mistake. She won't be the only one. Everyone who disagrees with the national emergency declaration are warning about equal hijinx by the Democrats, once one is Pres again.

They'll declare gun violence a national emergency. They'll declare climate change a national emergency, which it is. They'll declare a barrier to be a NE, and tear it down.

Just stop already. Everyone knows why your people's panties are in a bunch over this: You don't want to see Trump elected for a second term. It has nothing to do with a wall or a national emergency. It's all about losing again in 2020.

Trump won't be elected because of his criminal liability. Even McConnell and the Senate are walking away from Trump. Why do you think McConnell went along with the NE? Because he knows it will be lost in the courts, and McConnell gets to keep his mouth shut on a declaration that Trump will lose, not McConnell. Trump is extra baggage for Republicans now, so they'll just let him fall in his own pile of shit.

'Landslide'....

 

[easyt65]

Repubs had two years to fix killing babies. They don’t seem to want to.

 

[Rambunctious]

We are still under 7 national emergencies signed by Bush and Obama....I bet you didn't even know that did you?.....

There are declarations of national emergency that go back to Reagan. The difference in this declaration and those of the past is Trump is very explicitly going against the will of congress. Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Reagan all issued declarations of national emergency. Most of those declarations were done with the knowledge that congress supported the decision. Some were done without going to congress for approval but I can't find a one where congress said here is the money for a project and the president gave them a big Fuck You, I'll declare an emergency and take what I choose. I think this a first and hopefully the last.

Trump is obeying the wishes of the people...fuck congress they left the people as soon as the elections were over...as usual....

That’s why repubs lost so many seats...

No the reason the GOP lost the house is so many of them retired....like 40 of them leaving unknowns to run in their place....the dems will lose it back in the next election.....open borders and killing babies will guarantee it....

Repubs had two years to fix killing babies. They don’t seem to want to.

Fix it how?...this will not be forgotten by the people and neither will the dems quest to open our borders to the sick and poor of the world....how much does healthcare cost now?...wait until we are caring for the worlds sick injured and unable to pay.....

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Yet the constitution allows the president to call for a national emergency, go figure

Right, when there is an emergency. Why was there no emergency over the last two years but there is now?

It's all in the "timing." Declaring it now shows the Democrats that even though they control the House, they're still powerless.

He's rubbing their noses in it.

We'll see if they're powerless. This will get dragged out through the courts for years just like the DACA case and the Transgender military case. It's going to be just another distraction and waste of time and resources while nothing else gets done. He is not getting his stupid wall

 

[badger2]

The wall is more than a symbol. It keeps the riff-raff out. Next to improve the intelligence of the insiders: Old Lady, do you have relatives in Canada? Mueller is a piece-of-shit rabid nazi and hasn't the stones to show the Clinton mafia's connection to British Intelligence, the latter being Russia's traditional and everlasting bugabear..

 

[JGalt]

In 1976 with the drafting of the update of the National Emergency statute in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal and Nixon's attempt to absorb extraordinary Presidential powers, new termination laws were codified to allow Congress to reclaim their Article 1 powers assumed by the president ceded by Congress.

50 USC § 1622 contains those specifics which include termination of a Presidential declaration of a National Emergency through a nullification process if both Chambers concur with a SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE in both houses. If one Chamber votes to terminate, the other house is required to vote, and NO FILIBUSTER for the Senate.

The Speaker of the House will likely prepare the Joint Resolution soonest, and McConnell has no damn choice but to hold a vote in the Senate per the requirements of the Statute. If the Resolution gets to the Senate, it likely will have enough GOP Senators crossing the line easily. If McConnell gets smart of a sudden, he'll turn his caucus loose to vote on their own.

~~ 50 U.S. Code § 1622 - National emergencies ~~

Senator Collins already came out yesterday saying it was a mistake. She won't be the only one. Everyone who disagrees with the national emergency declaration are warning about equal hijinx by the Democrats, once one is Pres again.

They'll declare gun violence a national emergency. They'll declare climate change a national emergency, which it is. They'll declare a barrier to be a NE, and tear it down.

Just stop already. Everyone knows why your people's panties are in a bunch over this: You don't want to see Trump elected for a second term. It has nothing to do with a wall or a national emergency. It's all about losing again in 2020.

Trump won't be elected because of his criminal liability. Even McConnell and the Senate are walking away from Trump. Why do you think McConnell went along with the NE? Because he knows it will be lost in the courts, and McConnell gets to keep his mouth shut on a declaration that Trump will lose, not McConnell. Trump is extra baggage for Republicans now, so they'll just let him fall in his own pile of shit.

It shouldn't have taken you that many words to say "I'm a retard."

There is no "criminal liability." So some liberal judicial hack in the Ninth Circuit rules against Trump, would you like to see how fast he'll move this up on the Supreme Court docket?