Trump to scrap Nasa climate research in crackdown on ‘politicized science’

[owebo]

The GW fraudsters and their brainwashed doomsday cult members would like to spend the entire GDP on climate "research".

The idea that you want to defund research is proof you are afraid of the rersults. OMG OMG OMG your denier gods might be wrong,

Do we really need to fund settled science research? I mean, it's settled, right?

 

[owebo]

The climate has been changing for as long as the Earth has existed. Or for as long as it's had a climate, at least.

Sometimes the climate gets warmer. And sometimes it gets cooler.

People have been "researching" this supposed manmade climate change for forty-five years. And after all that researching, all that screaming, all that denigration of those who don't see any evidence for it...

...not a single report proving that man has had any impact on climate change, or can ever have any in the foreseeable future, has ever been published.

Not one. In forty-five years.

Lots of stuff has been published saying that man has had an effect on climate change. and lots of it claims to "prove" it, or at least support it, by "logic" such as:

1.) Increased levels of (CO2, methane, hydrogen, pick your favorite "greenhouse gas") can change the climate.

2.) Man can create more greenhouse gases by paving too much land, or burning fossil fuels, or exhaling really heavily (insert the activity you want to demonize here).

3.) Man is doing that activity, so man is changing the climate.

No attempt to establish what increase in gases is necessary to actually change the climate in whatever way you are fearing this week. No attempt to find if man is actually creating that much. No attempt to find if such increases do or don't trigger other events that might absorb or use up more of those gases (more plants growing or oceans absorbing or whatever). Etc. etc.

And a great deal of publishing has been done, of documents that purport to "prove" that man is affecting the climate, by referring to long bibliographies of learned documents and other "studies". But if you actually look into those bibliographies and open up the documents they cite, you find... you guessed it, more bibliographies, pointing to yet more documents. No actual studies or experiments that demonstrate what the publishers say is true. Just references to even more studies... which in turn refer to even more studies... none of which ever actually prove the original assertion.

FORTY-FIVE YEARS. And not a single actual proof.

There's a reason for this. And it's similar to the reason why no chemical has ever been found that can turn lead into gold... something that has been "researched" for thousands of years.

And the reason is, because there just plain isn't any.

Go peddle your papers, manmade-global-whatever hysterics. You HAVE succeeded in convincing the rest of us of one thing: that you're selling snake oil, no matter how high a price you're charging for it. Nothing else could account for your complete failure to produce even ONE piece of proof, after all the resources you have expended (usually from other peoples' pockets) and forty-plus years of trying.

Why not join the Flat Earth Society? You'll find some people there, who have the mindset needed to believe you.

So you have no children & grandchildren. For if you did, you would certainly be concerned & realize that you don't really know shit about climate science & maybe, just maybe, you should pay attention to the vast majority of climate scientists that agree with MMGW.

But nooooooooooooooooo.

I live in a section of PA that was known for its orchards. I was talking with a commercial beekeeper that rented his hives to orchards for pollination. I asked if he did a lot in our local apple orchards. He sad that apples require a cold snap in order to sweeten & that it was just not happening anymore on our area. The orchards pulled out & moved to update NY. Orchards were dozed & housing development arose.

Or did you know that every day that the temps reach a 90 or 95, that corn productions drops?

You really need to see if your climate denial is just you being duped by the political right funded by fossil fuel industries.

Man up & do something to actually help future generations instead of denial & condemning them to a more difficult future.

Here is an acorn study: Climate Change Hitting Acorn Crops Hard, Says Woodland Trust

Corn production has been up every year for at least 200 years. The markets are full of apples. Where is the actual empirical evidence that your hysterical fear mongering is valid?

Wow, you are not only uninformed but too feeble minded to comprehend.

Temperature above 90/95 on a day can reduce corn production per acre & your solution is to plant more acres & pile on more chemicals. My point was that global warning is affecting crop production. Areas the used to grow certain crops are no longer as viable, pushing them northward.

So, corn production is increasing.....thanks...

 

[bripat9643]

The climate has been changing for as long as the Earth has existed. Or for as long as it's had a climate, at least.

Sometimes the climate gets warmer. And sometimes it gets cooler.

People have been "researching" this supposed manmade climate change for forty-five years. And after all that researching, all that screaming, all that denigration of those who don't see any evidence for it...

...not a single report proving that man has had any impact on climate change, or can ever have any in the foreseeable future, has ever been published.

Not one. In forty-five years.

Lots of stuff has been published saying that man has had an effect on climate change. and lots of it claims to "prove" it, or at least support it, by "logic" such as:

1.) Increased levels of (CO2, methane, hydrogen, pick your favorite "greenhouse gas") can change the climate.

2.) Man can create more greenhouse gases by paving too much land, or burning fossil fuels, or exhaling really heavily (insert the activity you want to demonize here).

3.) Man is doing that activity, so man is changing the climate.

No attempt to establish what increase in gases is necessary to actually change the climate in whatever way you are fearing this week. No attempt to find if man is actually creating that much. No attempt to find if such increases do or don't trigger other events that might absorb or use up more of those gases (more plants growing or oceans absorbing or whatever). Etc. etc.

And a great deal of publishing has been done, of documents that purport to "prove" that man is affecting the climate, by referring to long bibliographies of learned documents and other "studies". But if you actually look into those bibliographies and open up the documents they cite, you find... you guessed it, more bibliographies, pointing to yet more documents. No actual studies or experiments that demonstrate what the publishers say is true. Just references to even more studies... which in turn refer to even more studies... none of which ever actually prove the original assertion.

FORTY-FIVE YEARS. And not a single actual proof.

There's a reason for this. And it's similar to the reason why no chemical has ever been found that can turn lead into gold... something that has been "researched" for thousands of years.

And the reason is, because there just plain isn't any.

Go peddle your papers, manmade-global-whatever hysterics. You HAVE succeeded in convincing the rest of us of one thing: that you're selling snake oil, no matter how high a price you're charging for it. Nothing else could account for your complete failure to produce even ONE piece of proof, after all the resources you have expended (usually from other peoples' pockets) and forty-plus years of trying.

Why not join the Flat Earth Society? You'll find some people there, who have the mindset needed to believe you.

So you have no children & grandchildren. For if you did, you would certainly be concerned & realize that you don't really know shit about climate science & maybe, just maybe, you should pay attention to the vast majority of climate scientists that agree with MMGW.

But nooooooooooooooooo.

I live in a section of PA that was known for its orchards. I was talking with a commercial beekeeper that rented his hives to orchards for pollination. I asked if he did a lot in our local apple orchards. He sad that apples require a cold snap in order to sweeten & that it was just not happening anymore on our area. The orchards pulled out & moved to update NY. Orchards were dozed & housing development arose.

Or did you know that every day that the temps reach a 90 or 95, that corn productions drops?

You really need to see if your climate denial is just you being duped by the political right funded by fossil fuel industries.

Man up & do something to actually help future generations instead of denial & condemning them to a more difficult future.

Here is an acorn study: Climate Change Hitting Acorn Crops Hard, Says Woodland Trust

Corn production has been up every year for at least 200 years. The markets are full of apples. Where is the actual empirical evidence that your hysterical fear mongering is valid?

Wow, you are not only uninformed but too feeble minded to comprehend.

Temperature above 90/95 on a day can reduce corn production per acre & your solution is to plant more acres & pile on more chemicals. My point was that global warning is affecting crop production. Areas the used to grow certain crops are no longer as viable, pushing them northward.

You have yet to demonstrate that the climate has had any effect on corn production. Until you do, your claims are horseshit.

 

[CowboyTed]

Sweet, cut out the $2.8 billion in the budget and give it to the general public in refund checks so we can buy shit to celebrate the end of the world when we get hit by a huge meteor in the next 10 years.

Of course, tracking meteors has absolutely nothing to do with climate change science, but hey .... let's not a good fact get in the way of a fictional crisis.

Tracking meteors is super dumb since Jesus is handling that shit

It is the same method as they used in gun crime...

If you cut all funding to research on it then you don't have to deal with the results..

Fact is that Climate Change is happening at an alarming rate and it is highly likely to be caused by human activity...

Even nearly all the sceptical scientists have admitted that climate change at an alarming rate is happening... Only ones left are non scientists really...

Trump's guy for EPA is not a scientist and is only there because he is a sceptic...

Thing is that this should have never been a right or left issue... The science is pretty irrefutable at this stage... this is a simple case of putting your head in the sand or do something about it issue...

Climate change is always happening....

Did you mean MMGW?

Defund quickly, have to remain stupid.... The problem you have is the more research, the more you are being proved wrong...

Many of your so called sceptics were actually saying more research needs to be done to give better models... Your answer is defund as quickly as possible...

This has been the same approach to Gun Crime.... All federal aid into studies have been cut for years so any solutions can be denied because there is no research...

Is this the way humans should go forward... Don't like the answer, lets just ignore it...

 

[owebo]

Sweet, cut out the $2.8 billion in the budget and give it to the general public in refund checks so we can buy shit to celebrate the end of the world when we get hit by a huge meteor in the next 10 years.

Of course, tracking meteors has absolutely nothing to do with climate change science, but hey .... let's not a good fact get in the way of a fictional crisis.

Tracking meteors is super dumb since Jesus is handling that shit

It is the same method as they used in gun crime...

If you cut all funding to research on it then you don't have to deal with the results..

Fact is that Climate Change is happening at an alarming rate and it is highly likely to be caused by human activity...

Even nearly all the sceptical scientists have admitted that climate change at an alarming rate is happening... Only ones left are non scientists really...

Trump's guy for EPA is not a scientist and is only there because he is a sceptic...

Thing is that this should have never been a right or left issue... The science is pretty irrefutable at this stage... this is a simple case of putting your head in the sand or do something about it issue...

Climate change is always happening....

Did you mean MMGW?

Defund quickly, have to remain stupid.... The problem you have is the more research, the more you are being proved wrong...

Many of your so called sceptics were actually saying more research needs to be done to give better models... Your answer is defund as quickly as possible...

This has been the same approach to Gun Crime.... All federal aid into studies have been cut for years so any solutions can be denied because there is no research...

Is this the way humans should go forward... Don't like the answer, lets just ignore it...

Humans can't go forward with settled science.....that's far more dangerous to us that CC......

 

[CowboyTed]

The GW fraudsters and their brainwashed doomsday cult members would like to spend the entire GDP on climate "research".

The idea that you want to defund research is proof you are afraid of the rersults. OMG OMG OMG your denier gods might be wrong,

Do we really need to fund settled science research? I mean, it's settled, right?

While certain things are settled the exact outcome can be further studied... This is science, we don't do 'We know enough...'

 

[owebo]

The GW fraudsters and their brainwashed doomsday cult members would like to spend the entire GDP on climate "research".

The idea that you want to defund research is proof you are afraid of the rersults. OMG OMG OMG your denier gods might be wrong,

Do we really need to fund settled science research? I mean, it's settled, right?

While certain things are settled the exact outcome can be further studied... This is science, we don't do 'We know enough...'

Thank you for admitting you're a settled science idiot.....see, that was easy now, wasn't it.....

 

[Flash]

Oh happy day, another source of leftwing propaganda is being eliminated. I can see Jim Hanson crying.

Trump to scrap Nasa climate research in crackdown on ‘politicized science’

Donald Trump is poised to eliminate all climate change research conducted by Nasa as part of a crackdown on “politicized science”, his senior adviser on issues relating to the space agency has said.

Nasa’s Earth science division is set to be stripped of funding in favor of exploration of deep space, with the president-elect having set a goal during the campaign to explore the entire solar system by the end of the century.

Related: 2016 locked into being hottest year on record, Nasa says

This would mean the elimination of Nasa’s world-renowned research into temperature, ice, clouds and other climate phenomena. Nasa’s network of satellites provide a wealth of information on climate change, with the Earth science division’s budget set to grow to $2bn next year. By comparison, space exploration has been scaled back somewhat, with a proposed budget of $2.8bn in 2017.

Bob Walker, a senior Trump campaign adviser, said there was no need for Nasa to do what he has previously described as “politically correct environmental monitoring”.​

Since NASA was caught red handed fabricating climate data under the Obama administration it is good to get them focused on space exploration instead of this silly AGW scam.

 

[Flash]

 

[owebo]

What a debate ender.....

 

[2aguy]

Here's an "idea" for the bed wetter globalists who need a never ending source of crises that we can never completely protect ourselves from.

It's not anything you even have to bullshit about. It's nothing we need a massive nanny state to get involved with to monitor your thermostat of electric bill. You can't tax gasoline enough to make a lick of difference.

A real threat comes from THE FUCKING UNIVERSE.

I'm not talking about aliens from outside the planet, but I am talking about big fucking rocks that can hit us and turn the earth into an intergalactic snowball for another 10K years.

"Think" about it from a moonbat "perspective"

Space is infinite.... Let them focus their night terrors on space. All those regressive billionaires can pump all their trust accounts into industries where we do nothing but watch robots build satellites and launch them, into the galaxy to track and destroy rocks that might hit earth and wipe out humanity.

A never ending crisis, and no one has to be told to turn up their thermostat or buy "carbon credits".

Yeah, we don't need to know that we're fucking up the planet, we know it already, so what's the point of spending money on researching it, when we can buy hookers?

We aren't.......time for NASA to go back into space....and it is about fucking time we sent our astronauts back into space in American space craft...

 

[2aguy]

Sweet, cut out the $2.8 billion in the budget and give it to the general public in refund checks so we can buy shit to celebrate the end of the world when we get hit by a huge meteor in the next 10 years.

Of course, tracking meteors has absolutely nothing to do with climate change science, but hey .... let's not a good fact get in the way of a fictional crisis.

Tracking meteors is super dumb since Jesus is handling that shit

It is the same method as they used in gun crime...

If you cut all funding to research on it then you don't have to deal with the results..

Fact is that Climate Change is happening at an alarming rate and it is highly likely to be caused by human activity...

Even nearly all the sceptical scientists have admitted that climate change at an alarming rate is happening... Only ones left are non scientists really...

Trump's guy for EPA is not a scientist and is only there because he is a sceptic...

Thing is that this should have never been a right or left issue... The science is pretty irrefutable at this stage... this is a simple case of putting your head in the sand or do something about it issue...

Climate change is always happening....

Did you mean MMGW?

Defund quickly, have to remain stupid.... The problem you have is the more research, the more you are being proved wrong...

Many of your so called sceptics were actually saying more research needs to be done to give better models... Your answer is defund as quickly as possible...

This has been the same approach to Gun Crime.... All federal aid into studies have been cut for years so any solutions can be denied because there is no research...

Is this the way humans should go forward... Don't like the answer, lets just ignore it...

And you lie.......more research can be done...but NASA needs to be going back to what they were meant to do....Space Exploration.....not confirming the political bias of left wing totalitarians....

And the CDC and gun research.....been proven a lie over and over again....no one stopped gun research at the CDC...what was stopped was politicizing research to push gun control.......you know....pushing to end the Civil Rights of the American people.....I know...you lefties hate actual Rights for people.....so you had to be stopped...

 

[2aguy]

The GW fraudsters and their brainwashed doomsday cult members would like to spend the entire GDP on climate "research".

The idea that you want to defund research is proof you are afraid of the rersults. OMG OMG OMG your denier gods might be wrong,

Do we really need to fund settled science research? I mean, it's settled, right?

While certain things are settled the exact outcome can be further studied... This is science, we don't do 'We know enough...'

Yes....I am so glad that the settled science of the earth being flat was settled.........we wouldn't want anyone dropping off the edge now, would we?

 

[2aguy]

Sweet, cut out the $2.8 billion in the budget and give it to the general public in refund checks so we can buy shit to celebrate the end of the world when we get hit by a huge meteor in the next 10 years.

Of course, tracking meteors has absolutely nothing to do with climate change science, but hey .... let's not a good fact get in the way of a fictional crisis.

Tracking meteors is super dumb since Jesus is handling that shit

It is the same method as they used in gun crime...

If you cut all funding to research on it then you don't have to deal with the results..

Fact is that Climate Change is happening at an alarming rate and it is highly likely to be caused by human activity...

Even nearly all the sceptical scientists have admitted that climate change at an alarming rate is happening... Only ones left are non scientists really...

Trump's guy for EPA is not a scientist and is only there because he is a sceptic...

Thing is that this should have never been a right or left issue... The science is pretty irrefutable at this stage... this is a simple case of putting your head in the sand or do something about it issue...

Climate change is always happening....

Did you mean MMGW?

Defund quickly, have to remain stupid.... The problem you have is the more research, the more you are being proved wrong...

Many of your so called sceptics were actually saying more research needs to be done to give better models... Your answer is defund as quickly as possible...

This has been the same approach to Gun Crime.... All federal aid into studies have been cut for years so any solutions can be denied because there is no research...

Is this the way humans should go forward... Don't like the answer, lets just ignore it...

Gun crime isn't a disease...and I guess as Pee Wee Herman stated....."No one hipped you to that dude....."

in the 1990s there were 200 million guns in private hands.....and in 1997 there were 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense...there are now 357-400 million guns in private hands...and close to 15 million people carrying guns for self defense....

And our gun murder rate went down 49% seems like we have the solution......

And if you actually want to stop gun crime....lock up gun criminals.....they aren't a disease...they are human beings who use guns to murder people...lock them up and they can't do that.....

Now the CDC can go about solving the common cold....your welcome...

 

[Desperado]

NASA should be about space travel, not climate change.
Since they have been into climate change, they have not been able to leave low earth orbit,
they have gotten out of the manned space flight program and we now have to hitch a ride to our own space station with the Russians. NASA has lost all credibility.

 

[Flash]

NASA should be about space travel, not climate change.
Since they have been into climate change, they have not been able to leave low earth orbit,
they have gotten out of the manned space flight program and we now have to hitch a ride to our own space station with the Russians. NASA has lost all credibility.

Elections have consequences.

When these Moon Bats elected that jackass Obama he diverted resources from NASA's space exploration to trying to justify this silly AGW scam.

When NASA scientists couldn't prove it then they fabricated data and got caught at it and now they have no credibility.

Now we have a President that is not beholding to the environmental wackos that fund the Democrat Party like Tom Steyer so now we can get on with the real business of space exploration.

 

[Windship]

Nasa has been turned into a propaganda mill. Dr Hanson is its Joseph Goebbels.[/QUOTE]

The only propaganda is you and your bull shit. Get rid of nasa and give that money to the rich, right? Your a fucking idiot. Probably always have been.

 

[CowboyTed]

Refu

Oh happy day, another source of leftwing propaganda is being eliminated. I can see Jim Hanson crying.

Trump to scrap Nasa climate research in crackdown on ‘politicized science’

Donald Trump is poised to eliminate all climate change research conducted by Nasa as part of a crackdown on “politicized science”, his senior adviser on issues relating to the space agency has said.

Nasa’s Earth science division is set to be stripped of funding in favor of exploration of deep space, with the president-elect having set a goal during the campaign to explore the entire solar system by the end of the century.

Related: 2016 locked into being hottest year on record, Nasa says

This would mean the elimination of Nasa’s world-renowned research into temperature, ice, clouds and other climate phenomena. Nasa’s network of satellites provide a wealth of information on climate change, with the Earth science division’s budget set to grow to $2bn next year. By comparison, space exploration has been scaled back somewhat, with a proposed budget of $2.8bn in 2017.

Bob Walker, a senior Trump campaign adviser, said there was no need for Nasa to do what he has previously described as “politically correct environmental monitoring”.​

Since NASA was caught red handed fabricating climate data under the Obama administration it is good to get them focused on space exploration instead of this silly AGW scam.

This has been well refuted.

Nothing False About Temperature Data

Fox's Doocy: NASA fudged data to make the case for global warming

So we have now established that actually it is you who have falsified information... You see you don't like facts and science, because there is no room for bullshit in science...

So refuted so easily... But your idea of stopping all research into this will just put US at the back of the queue, in the dumb class...

 

[bripat9643]

Refu

Oh happy day, another source of leftwing propaganda is being eliminated. I can see Jim Hanson crying.

Trump to scrap Nasa climate research in crackdown on ‘politicized science’

Donald Trump is poised to eliminate all climate change research conducted by Nasa as part of a crackdown on “politicized science”, his senior adviser on issues relating to the space agency has said.

Nasa’s Earth science division is set to be stripped of funding in favor of exploration of deep space, with the president-elect having set a goal during the campaign to explore the entire solar system by the end of the century.

Related: 2016 locked into being hottest year on record, Nasa says

This would mean the elimination of Nasa’s world-renowned research into temperature, ice, clouds and other climate phenomena. Nasa’s network of satellites provide a wealth of information on climate change, with the Earth science division’s budget set to grow to $2bn next year. By comparison, space exploration has been scaled back somewhat, with a proposed budget of $2.8bn in 2017.

Bob Walker, a senior Trump campaign adviser, said there was no need for Nasa to do what he has previously described as “politically correct environmental monitoring”.​

Since NASA was caught red handed fabricating climate data under the Obama administration it is good to get them focused on space exploration instead of this silly AGW scam.

This has been well refuted.

Nothing False About Temperature Data

Fox's Doocy: NASA fudged data to make the case for global warming

So we have now established that actually it is you who have falsified information... You see you don't like facts and science, because there is no room for bullshit in science...

So refuted so easily... But your idea of stopping all research into this will just put US at the back of the queue, in the dumb class...

Two fact check websites? What has been refuted is the claim that these so-called "fact check" websites have any connection with the facts. They are, in fact, nothing more than leftwing propaganda organs. They have no credibility.

 

[owebo]

Refu

Oh happy day, another source of leftwing propaganda is being eliminated. I can see Jim Hanson crying.

Trump to scrap Nasa climate research in crackdown on ‘politicized science’

Donald Trump is poised to eliminate all climate change research conducted by Nasa as part of a crackdown on “politicized science”, his senior adviser on issues relating to the space agency has said.

Nasa’s Earth science division is set to be stripped of funding in favor of exploration of deep space, with the president-elect having set a goal during the campaign to explore the entire solar system by the end of the century.

Related: 2016 locked into being hottest year on record, Nasa says

This would mean the elimination of Nasa’s world-renowned research into temperature, ice, clouds and other climate phenomena. Nasa’s network of satellites provide a wealth of information on climate change, with the Earth science division’s budget set to grow to $2bn next year. By comparison, space exploration has been scaled back somewhat, with a proposed budget of $2.8bn in 2017.

Bob Walker, a senior Trump campaign adviser, said there was no need for Nasa to do what he has previously described as “politically correct environmental monitoring”.​

Since NASA was caught red handed fabricating climate data under the Obama administration it is good to get them focused on space exploration instead of this silly AGW scam.

This has been well refuted.

Nothing False About Temperature Data

Fox's Doocy: NASA fudged data to make the case for global warming

So we have now established that actually it is you who have falsified information... You see you don't like facts and science, because there is no room for bullshit in science...

So refuted so easily... But your idea of stopping all research into this will just put US at the back of the queue, in the dumb class...

It's common knowledge among scientists.....not so much with you settled science believers I see....