Trump's election lies are an attempted coup. Biden/ Dems should say so

[OldLady]

Words have meaning. It’s not a coup. It’s just Trump being the same inveterate liar he has always been. It may destabilize and delegitimize the nation, but that’s basically been his play the whole time.

Not a coup.

How is he a liar if he thinks he's being cheated?

True. Maybe he isn’t a liar. Maybe he’s just that delusional.

Personally, I pray that he’s just a liar.

Maybe he thinks he's being cheated because he's being cheated.

You don't care because you got the result you wanted, and even if actual evidence is thrust in your face you will find a way to ignore it, because for progressive losers like you, the ends always justify the means.

He tried to get the PA and other legislators to disregard their constituents' votes and choose their own Trump electors, which is against their laws. He is collecting donations to support all his lawsuits, but that money is actually going to pay his campaign debts. He is spreading debunked lies on twitter all day every day. That's for starters.

Again, how is that cheating?

And you got support for all these accusations, right?

Marty, yes, it's cheating.

 

[DrLove]

Just a nitpick ... challenging the election in a court of law is lawful ... all of us would be entitled to this option ... all of this is within the US Constitution ...

Meh - Nobody has ever filed 40+ lawsuits after an election and lied to the American people to the extent this wannabe prick-tater has.
He's one for 40. Can you imagine a MLB team keeping a pitcher with a 0.025 average or even sending him back out to the mount after say 10 straight losses?
He is also twisting the arms of governors and secretaries of state. Absolutely unethical.
The time has come - That time is NOW

Doesn't make it illegal ... now does it? ... MLB teams have been known to send outfielders to the pitcher's mound ... no rule against it ...

But you're okay with the VP of the USA using the powers of his office to get his children jobs in corrupt third world nations ... perhaps yours isn't the ethical values we should aspire to ...

Trumpublicans should never broach the subject of political nepotism.

 

[colfax_m]

Words have meaning. It’s not a coup. It’s just Trump being the same inveterate liar he has always been. It may destabilize and delegitimize the nation, but that’s basically been his play the whole time.

Not a coup.

How is he a liar if he thinks he's being cheated?

True. Maybe he isn’t a liar. Maybe he’s just that delusional.

Personally, I pray that he’s just a liar.

Maybe he thinks he's being cheated because he's being cheated.

You don't care because you got the result you wanted, and even if actual evidence is thrust in your face you will find a way to ignore it, because for progressive losers like you, the ends always justify the means.

He’s not being cheated. He just can’t accept he lost. This is what he does. Nothing new.

Says you, again someone who got what they wanted and has every excuse to bury your head in the sand.

To people like you cheating is just business as usual.

Says every state that certified their votes.

Trump never admits defeat. You know that about him, don’t you? That’s the problem with being fundamentally dishonest. No one actually cares what you say anymore because there’s no reason to.

Votes in the past have been certified when cheating occurred, or are you denying things like Tammany Hall never existed?

Trump is a fighter, and he is still fighting. After 4 years of your side accusing him and us of being evil incarnate why are you surprised by this?

Progressives are far more dishonest, they just use softer tones, and their lies actually harm people.

I’m not surprised by this at all.

Trump would be claiming he was cheated regardless of any facts. It makes zero difference what actually happened, Trump’s behavior is detached from reality.

If he had lost the States cleanly and by 5% or more there wouldn't be a case. Instead we had miraculous Biden count increases from Heavy Dem controlled areas that pushed Biden over the edge. meanwhile Republicans elsewhere increased their House count, will probably hold the Senate, and increased their control of several State legislatures.

This is fishy, but you will ignore it, because, again, you go what you wanted.

Major cities with large minority populations voted heavily for the democratic candidate. That’s not a miracle. That’s literally what happens EVERY ELECTION.

And those counts just happened to put Biden enough over the top to win those states by slim margins....

And those States allowed ballots to keep being accepted past the normal acceptance times. And those States allowed mass vote by mail which creates more windows for cheating.

80k votes in Pennsylvania is a lot more than what Trump won it by in 2020. The few votes received after Election Day had no determinative effect.

What’s the argument then? They counted the votes and Biden won, which is “suspicious”.

The argument is all these little things add up to me questioning the integrity of our election system, especially in Democrat controlled areas.

But you ignore it because you got what you wanted.

Kinda hard to take these things seriously when you’re suspicious that a lot of people in Philadelphia voted for Biden. A “miracle” you called it.

I'm suspicious of the vote numbers that came in, not that they voted for Biden.

Again, you don't care because you got what you wanted.

Yes. The vote numbers are suspicious because they were enough to give Biden the win

Again, nothing inherently suspicious, it’s just that you don’t like the outcome.

Add that to the other indicators, and you have a case for suspicion. Republican gains in the House, maybe not losing the Senate despite a favorable Democratic map, gaining State legislature controls. The bell-weather counties being wrong for the first time. The massive increase in mail voting, which makes it easier to stuff ballots.

They were just enough to give Biden the win.

If Trump is/was as bad as your side says, isn't cheating justified to get rid of him?

Trump is on the ballot, why would you expect this election to follow any set of assumptions about bell weather counties or house races?

 

[OldLady]

Words have meaning. It’s not a coup. It’s just Trump being the same inveterate liar he has always been. It may destabilize and delegitimize the nation, but that’s basically been his play the whole time.

Not a coup.

How is he a liar if he thinks he's being cheated?

True. Maybe he isn’t a liar. Maybe he’s just that delusional.

Personally, I pray that he’s just a liar.

Maybe he thinks he's being cheated because he's being cheated.

You don't care because you got the result you wanted, and even if actual evidence is thrust in your face you will find a way to ignore it, because for progressive losers like you, the ends always justify the means.

He’s not being cheated. He just can’t accept he lost. This is what he does. Nothing new.

Says you, again someone who got what they wanted and has every excuse to bury your head in the sand.

To people like you cheating is just business as usual.

Says every state that certified their votes.

Trump never admits defeat. You know that about him, don’t you? That’s the problem with being fundamentally dishonest. No one actually cares what you say anymore because there’s no reason to.

Votes in the past have been certified when cheating occurred, or are you denying things like Tammany Hall never existed?

Trump is a fighter, and he is still fighting. After 4 years of your side accusing him and us of being evil incarnate why are you surprised by this?

Progressives are far more dishonest, they just use softer tones, and their lies actually harm people.

I’m not surprised by this at all.

Trump would be claiming he was cheated regardless of any facts. It makes zero difference what actually happened, Trump’s behavior is detached from reality.

If he had lost the States cleanly and by 5% or more there wouldn't be a case. Instead we had miraculous Biden count increases from Heavy Dem controlled areas that pushed Biden over the edge. meanwhile Republicans elsewhere increased their House count, will probably hold the Senate, and increased their control of several State legislatures.

This is fishy, but you will ignore it, because, again, you go what you wanted.

Major cities with large minority populations voted heavily for the democratic candidate. That’s not a miracle. That’s literally what happens EVERY ELECTION.

And those counts just happened to put Biden enough over the top to win those states by slim margins....

And those States allowed ballots to keep being accepted past the normal acceptance times. And those States allowed mass vote by mail which creates more windows for cheating.

80k votes in Pennsylvania is a lot more than what Trump won it by in 2020. The few votes received after Election Day had no determinative effect.

What’s the argument then? They counted the votes and Biden won, which is “suspicious”.

The argument is all these little things add up to me questioning the integrity of our election system, especially in Democrat controlled areas.

But you ignore it because you got what you wanted.

Kinda hard to take these things seriously when you’re suspicious that a lot of people in Philadelphia voted for Biden. A “miracle” you called it.

I'm suspicious of the vote numbers that came in, not that they voted for Biden.

Again, you don't care because you got what you wanted.

And I 'd bet you cash money we wouldn't have heard a single murmur of concern about any of this if Trump had won. Not a peep.

 

[martybegan]

Words have meaning. It’s not a coup. It’s just Trump being the same inveterate liar he has always been. It may destabilize and delegitimize the nation, but that’s basically been his play the whole time.

Not a coup.

How is he a liar if he thinks he's being cheated?

True. Maybe he isn’t a liar. Maybe he’s just that delusional.

Personally, I pray that he’s just a liar.

Maybe he thinks he's being cheated because he's being cheated.

You don't care because you got the result you wanted, and even if actual evidence is thrust in your face you will find a way to ignore it, because for progressive losers like you, the ends always justify the means.

He tried to get the PA and other legislators to disregard their constituents' votes and choose their own Trump electors, which is against their laws. He is collecting donations to support all his lawsuits, but that money is actually going to pay his campaign debts. He is spreading debunked lies on twitter all day every day. That's for starters.

Again, how is that cheating?

And you got support for all these accusations, right?

Marty, yes, it's cheating.

No, it isn't. Asking them to perform duties they can perform as per their positions isn't cheating, it's just something you don't agree with.

 

[DrLove]

btw
In the REAL news----

Trump Ballots Defaulted and Switched to Biden Votes on Dominion System: Maricopa GOP Chairwoman

www.theepochtimes.com

Real news - from The Epoch Times?

• Overall, we rate The Epoch Times Right Biased and Questionable based on the publication of pseudoscience and the promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as numerous failed fact checks.

 

[martybegan]

Words have meaning. It’s not a coup. It’s just Trump being the same inveterate liar he has always been. It may destabilize and delegitimize the nation, but that’s basically been his play the whole time.

Not a coup.

How is he a liar if he thinks he's being cheated?

True. Maybe he isn’t a liar. Maybe he’s just that delusional.

Personally, I pray that he’s just a liar.

Maybe he thinks he's being cheated because he's being cheated.

You don't care because you got the result you wanted, and even if actual evidence is thrust in your face you will find a way to ignore it, because for progressive losers like you, the ends always justify the means.

He’s not being cheated. He just can’t accept he lost. This is what he does. Nothing new.

Says you, again someone who got what they wanted and has every excuse to bury your head in the sand.

To people like you cheating is just business as usual.

Says every state that certified their votes.

Trump never admits defeat. You know that about him, don’t you? That’s the problem with being fundamentally dishonest. No one actually cares what you say anymore because there’s no reason to.

Votes in the past have been certified when cheating occurred, or are you denying things like Tammany Hall never existed?

Trump is a fighter, and he is still fighting. After 4 years of your side accusing him and us of being evil incarnate why are you surprised by this?

Progressives are far more dishonest, they just use softer tones, and their lies actually harm people.

I’m not surprised by this at all.

Trump would be claiming he was cheated regardless of any facts. It makes zero difference what actually happened, Trump’s behavior is detached from reality.

If he had lost the States cleanly and by 5% or more there wouldn't be a case. Instead we had miraculous Biden count increases from Heavy Dem controlled areas that pushed Biden over the edge. meanwhile Republicans elsewhere increased their House count, will probably hold the Senate, and increased their control of several State legislatures.

This is fishy, but you will ignore it, because, again, you go what you wanted.

Major cities with large minority populations voted heavily for the democratic candidate. That’s not a miracle. That’s literally what happens EVERY ELECTION.

And those counts just happened to put Biden enough over the top to win those states by slim margins....

And those States allowed ballots to keep being accepted past the normal acceptance times. And those States allowed mass vote by mail which creates more windows for cheating.

80k votes in Pennsylvania is a lot more than what Trump won it by in 2020. The few votes received after Election Day had no determinative effect.

What’s the argument then? They counted the votes and Biden won, which is “suspicious”.

The argument is all these little things add up to me questioning the integrity of our election system, especially in Democrat controlled areas.

But you ignore it because you got what you wanted.

Kinda hard to take these things seriously when you’re suspicious that a lot of people in Philadelphia voted for Biden. A “miracle” you called it.

I'm suspicious of the vote numbers that came in, not that they voted for Biden.

Again, you don't care because you got what you wanted.

Yes. The vote numbers are suspicious because they were enough to give Biden the win

Again, nothing inherently suspicious, it’s just that you don’t like the outcome.

Add that to the other indicators, and you have a case for suspicion. Republican gains in the House, maybe not losing the Senate despite a favorable Democratic map, gaining State legislature controls. The bell-weather counties being wrong for the first time. The massive increase in mail voting, which makes it easier to stuff ballots.

They were just enough to give Biden the win.

If Trump is/was as bad as your side says, isn't cheating justified to get rid of him?

Trump is on the ballot, why would you expect this election to follow any set of assumptions about bell weather counties or house races?

One or the other is one thing, but all these little indicators being off at the same time?

Biden has the worst coat-tails for a supposed winner in decades, and Trump has the best for a supposed loser.

All these little things continue to make me question the results.

 

[DrLove]

Words have meaning. It’s not a coup. It’s just Trump being the same inveterate liar he has always been. It may destabilize and delegitimize the nation, but that’s basically been his play the whole time.

Not a coup.

How is he a liar if he thinks he's being cheated?

True. Maybe he isn’t a liar. Maybe he’s just that delusional.

Personally, I pray that he’s just a liar.

Strong possibility that he is both a liar and delusional.

 

[the other mike]

• Questionable based on the publication of pseudoscience and the promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as numerous failed fact checks.

CNN

 

[colfax_m]

Words have meaning. It’s not a coup. It’s just Trump being the same inveterate liar he has always been. It may destabilize and delegitimize the nation, but that’s basically been his play the whole time.

Not a coup.

How is he a liar if he thinks he's being cheated?

True. Maybe he isn’t a liar. Maybe he’s just that delusional.

Personally, I pray that he’s just a liar.

Maybe he thinks he's being cheated because he's being cheated.

You don't care because you got the result you wanted, and even if actual evidence is thrust in your face you will find a way to ignore it, because for progressive losers like you, the ends always justify the means.

He’s not being cheated. He just can’t accept he lost. This is what he does. Nothing new.

Says you, again someone who got what they wanted and has every excuse to bury your head in the sand.

To people like you cheating is just business as usual.

Says every state that certified their votes.

Trump never admits defeat. You know that about him, don’t you? That’s the problem with being fundamentally dishonest. No one actually cares what you say anymore because there’s no reason to.

Votes in the past have been certified when cheating occurred, or are you denying things like Tammany Hall never existed?

Trump is a fighter, and he is still fighting. After 4 years of your side accusing him and us of being evil incarnate why are you surprised by this?

Progressives are far more dishonest, they just use softer tones, and their lies actually harm people.

I’m not surprised by this at all.

Trump would be claiming he was cheated regardless of any facts. It makes zero difference what actually happened, Trump’s behavior is detached from reality.

If he had lost the States cleanly and by 5% or more there wouldn't be a case. Instead we had miraculous Biden count increases from Heavy Dem controlled areas that pushed Biden over the edge. meanwhile Republicans elsewhere increased their House count, will probably hold the Senate, and increased their control of several State legislatures.

This is fishy, but you will ignore it, because, again, you go what you wanted.

Major cities with large minority populations voted heavily for the democratic candidate. That’s not a miracle. That’s literally what happens EVERY ELECTION.

And those counts just happened to put Biden enough over the top to win those states by slim margins....

And those States allowed ballots to keep being accepted past the normal acceptance times. And those States allowed mass vote by mail which creates more windows for cheating.

80k votes in Pennsylvania is a lot more than what Trump won it by in 2020. The few votes received after Election Day had no determinative effect.

What’s the argument then? They counted the votes and Biden won, which is “suspicious”.

The argument is all these little things add up to me questioning the integrity of our election system, especially in Democrat controlled areas.

But you ignore it because you got what you wanted.

Kinda hard to take these things seriously when you’re suspicious that a lot of people in Philadelphia voted for Biden. A “miracle” you called it.

I'm suspicious of the vote numbers that came in, not that they voted for Biden.

Again, you don't care because you got what you wanted.

Yes. The vote numbers are suspicious because they were enough to give Biden the win

Again, nothing inherently suspicious, it’s just that you don’t like the outcome.

Add that to the other indicators, and you have a case for suspicion. Republican gains in the House, maybe not losing the Senate despite a favorable Democratic map, gaining State legislature controls. The bell-weather counties being wrong for the first time. The massive increase in mail voting, which makes it easier to stuff ballots.

They were just enough to give Biden the win.

If Trump is/was as bad as your side says, isn't cheating justified to get rid of him?

Trump is on the ballot, why would you expect this election to follow any set of assumptions about bell weather counties or house races?

One or the other is one thing, but all these little indicators being off at the same time?

Biden has the worst coat-tails for a supposed winner in decades, and Trump has the best for a supposed loser.

All these little things continue to make me question the results.

Not as surprising when you consider who Trump is.

 

[martybegan]

Words have meaning. It’s not a coup. It’s just Trump being the same inveterate liar he has always been. It may destabilize and delegitimize the nation, but that’s basically been his play the whole time.

Not a coup.

How is he a liar if he thinks he's being cheated?

True. Maybe he isn’t a liar. Maybe he’s just that delusional.

Personally, I pray that he’s just a liar.

Maybe he thinks he's being cheated because he's being cheated.

You don't care because you got the result you wanted, and even if actual evidence is thrust in your face you will find a way to ignore it, because for progressive losers like you, the ends always justify the means.

He’s not being cheated. He just can’t accept he lost. This is what he does. Nothing new.

Says you, again someone who got what they wanted and has every excuse to bury your head in the sand.

To people like you cheating is just business as usual.

Says every state that certified their votes.

Trump never admits defeat. You know that about him, don’t you? That’s the problem with being fundamentally dishonest. No one actually cares what you say anymore because there’s no reason to.

Votes in the past have been certified when cheating occurred, or are you denying things like Tammany Hall never existed?

Trump is a fighter, and he is still fighting. After 4 years of your side accusing him and us of being evil incarnate why are you surprised by this?

Progressives are far more dishonest, they just use softer tones, and their lies actually harm people.

I’m not surprised by this at all.

Trump would be claiming he was cheated regardless of any facts. It makes zero difference what actually happened, Trump’s behavior is detached from reality.

If he had lost the States cleanly and by 5% or more there wouldn't be a case. Instead we had miraculous Biden count increases from Heavy Dem controlled areas that pushed Biden over the edge. meanwhile Republicans elsewhere increased their House count, will probably hold the Senate, and increased their control of several State legislatures.

This is fishy, but you will ignore it, because, again, you go what you wanted.

Major cities with large minority populations voted heavily for the democratic candidate. That’s not a miracle. That’s literally what happens EVERY ELECTION.

And those counts just happened to put Biden enough over the top to win those states by slim margins....

And those States allowed ballots to keep being accepted past the normal acceptance times. And those States allowed mass vote by mail which creates more windows for cheating.

80k votes in Pennsylvania is a lot more than what Trump won it by in 2020. The few votes received after Election Day had no determinative effect.

What’s the argument then? They counted the votes and Biden won, which is “suspicious”.

The argument is all these little things add up to me questioning the integrity of our election system, especially in Democrat controlled areas.

But you ignore it because you got what you wanted.

Kinda hard to take these things seriously when you’re suspicious that a lot of people in Philadelphia voted for Biden. A “miracle” you called it.

I'm suspicious of the vote numbers that came in, not that they voted for Biden.

Again, you don't care because you got what you wanted.

And I 'd bet you cash money we wouldn't have heard a single murmur of concern about any of this if Trump had won. Not a peep.

Because why would Trump cheat? Also Republicans don't control the heavy urban areas that make cheating via things like ballot stuffing and electronic add counts easier to accomplish and hide.

Again, if Trump is/was truly as evil as your side says he is, isn't it required that your side wins by any means nessasary?

 

[DrLove]

Words have meaning. It’s not a coup. It’s just Trump being the same inveterate liar he has always been. It may destabilize and delegitimize the nation, but that’s basically been his play the whole time.

Not a coup.

How is he a liar if he thinks he's being cheated?

True. Maybe he isn’t a liar. Maybe he’s just that delusional.

Personally, I pray that he’s just a liar.

Maybe he thinks he's being cheated because he's being cheated.

You don't care because you got the result you wanted, and even if actual evidence is thrust in your face you will find a way to ignore it, because for progressive losers like you, the ends always justify the means.

He’s not being cheated. He just can’t accept he lost. This is what he does. Nothing new.

Says you, again someone who got what they wanted and has every excuse to bury your head in the sand.

To people like you cheating is just business as usual.

Says every state that certified their votes.

Trump never admits defeat. You know that about him, don’t you? That’s the problem with being fundamentally dishonest. No one actually cares what you say anymore because there’s no reason to.

Votes in the past have been certified when cheating occurred, or are you denying things like Tammany Hall never existed?

Trump is a fighter, and he is still fighting. After 4 years of your side accusing him and us of being evil incarnate why are you surprised by this?

Progressives are far more dishonest, they just use softer tones, and their lies actually harm people.

I’m not surprised by this at all.

Trump would be claiming he was cheated regardless of any facts. It makes zero difference what actually happened, Trump’s behavior is detached from reality.

If he had lost the States cleanly and by 5% or more there wouldn't be a case. Instead we had miraculous Biden count increases from Heavy Dem controlled areas that pushed Biden over the edge. meanwhile Republicans elsewhere increased their House count, will probably hold the Senate, and increased their control of several State legislatures.

This is fishy, but you will ignore it, because, again, you go what you wanted.

Major cities with large minority populations voted heavily for the democratic candidate. That’s not a miracle. That’s literally what happens EVERY ELECTION.

And those counts just happened to put Biden enough over the top to win those states by slim margins....

And those States allowed ballots to keep being accepted past the normal acceptance times. And those States allowed mass vote by mail which creates more windows for cheating.

80k votes in Pennsylvania is a lot more than what Trump won it by in 2020. The few votes received after Election Day had no determinative effect.

What’s the argument then? They counted the votes and Biden won, which is “suspicious”.

The argument is all these little things add up to me questioning the integrity of our election system, especially in Democrat controlled areas.

But you ignore it because you got what you wanted.

Kinda hard to take these things seriously when you’re suspicious that a lot of people in Philadelphia voted for Biden. A “miracle” you called it.

I'm suspicious of the vote numbers that came in, not that they voted for Biden.

Again, you don't care because you got what you wanted.

And I 'd bet you cash money we wouldn't have heard a single murmur of concern about any of this if Trump had won. Not a peep.

Also not even ONE peep about how Republicans didn't lose a single seat. Dems are pretty lousy election cheaters. ;-)

 

[martybegan]

Words have meaning. It’s not a coup. It’s just Trump being the same inveterate liar he has always been. It may destabilize and delegitimize the nation, but that’s basically been his play the whole time.

Not a coup.

How is he a liar if he thinks he's being cheated?

True. Maybe he isn’t a liar. Maybe he’s just that delusional.

Personally, I pray that he’s just a liar.

Maybe he thinks he's being cheated because he's being cheated.

You don't care because you got the result you wanted, and even if actual evidence is thrust in your face you will find a way to ignore it, because for progressive losers like you, the ends always justify the means.

He’s not being cheated. He just can’t accept he lost. This is what he does. Nothing new.

Says you, again someone who got what they wanted and has every excuse to bury your head in the sand.

To people like you cheating is just business as usual.

Says every state that certified their votes.

Trump never admits defeat. You know that about him, don’t you? That’s the problem with being fundamentally dishonest. No one actually cares what you say anymore because there’s no reason to.

Votes in the past have been certified when cheating occurred, or are you denying things like Tammany Hall never existed?

Trump is a fighter, and he is still fighting. After 4 years of your side accusing him and us of being evil incarnate why are you surprised by this?

Progressives are far more dishonest, they just use softer tones, and their lies actually harm people.

I’m not surprised by this at all.

Trump would be claiming he was cheated regardless of any facts. It makes zero difference what actually happened, Trump’s behavior is detached from reality.

If he had lost the States cleanly and by 5% or more there wouldn't be a case. Instead we had miraculous Biden count increases from Heavy Dem controlled areas that pushed Biden over the edge. meanwhile Republicans elsewhere increased their House count, will probably hold the Senate, and increased their control of several State legislatures.

This is fishy, but you will ignore it, because, again, you go what you wanted.

Major cities with large minority populations voted heavily for the democratic candidate. That’s not a miracle. That’s literally what happens EVERY ELECTION.

And those counts just happened to put Biden enough over the top to win those states by slim margins....

And those States allowed ballots to keep being accepted past the normal acceptance times. And those States allowed mass vote by mail which creates more windows for cheating.

80k votes in Pennsylvania is a lot more than what Trump won it by in 2020. The few votes received after Election Day had no determinative effect.

What’s the argument then? They counted the votes and Biden won, which is “suspicious”.

The argument is all these little things add up to me questioning the integrity of our election system, especially in Democrat controlled areas.

But you ignore it because you got what you wanted.

Kinda hard to take these things seriously when you’re suspicious that a lot of people in Philadelphia voted for Biden. A “miracle” you called it.

I'm suspicious of the vote numbers that came in, not that they voted for Biden.

Again, you don't care because you got what you wanted.

Yes. The vote numbers are suspicious because they were enough to give Biden the win

Again, nothing inherently suspicious, it’s just that you don’t like the outcome.

Add that to the other indicators, and you have a case for suspicion. Republican gains in the House, maybe not losing the Senate despite a favorable Democratic map, gaining State legislature controls. The bell-weather counties being wrong for the first time. The massive increase in mail voting, which makes it easier to stuff ballots.

They were just enough to give Biden the win.

If Trump is/was as bad as your side says, isn't cheating justified to get rid of him?

Trump is on the ballot, why would you expect this election to follow any set of assumptions about bell weather counties or house races?

One or the other is one thing, but all these little indicators being off at the same time?

Biden has the worst coat-tails for a supposed winner in decades, and Trump has the best for a supposed loser.

All these little things continue to make me question the results.

Not as surprising when you consider who Trump is.

He's someone that got over 73 million votes. He's someone who's party improved in the House, may control the senate still, and improved in many States.

 

[martybegan]

Words have meaning. It’s not a coup. It’s just Trump being the same inveterate liar he has always been. It may destabilize and delegitimize the nation, but that’s basically been his play the whole time.

Not a coup.

How is he a liar if he thinks he's being cheated?

True. Maybe he isn’t a liar. Maybe he’s just that delusional.

Personally, I pray that he’s just a liar.

Maybe he thinks he's being cheated because he's being cheated.

You don't care because you got the result you wanted, and even if actual evidence is thrust in your face you will find a way to ignore it, because for progressive losers like you, the ends always justify the means.

He’s not being cheated. He just can’t accept he lost. This is what he does. Nothing new.

Says you, again someone who got what they wanted and has every excuse to bury your head in the sand.

To people like you cheating is just business as usual.

Says every state that certified their votes.

Trump never admits defeat. You know that about him, don’t you? That’s the problem with being fundamentally dishonest. No one actually cares what you say anymore because there’s no reason to.

Votes in the past have been certified when cheating occurred, or are you denying things like Tammany Hall never existed?

Trump is a fighter, and he is still fighting. After 4 years of your side accusing him and us of being evil incarnate why are you surprised by this?

Progressives are far more dishonest, they just use softer tones, and their lies actually harm people.

I’m not surprised by this at all.

Trump would be claiming he was cheated regardless of any facts. It makes zero difference what actually happened, Trump’s behavior is detached from reality.

If he had lost the States cleanly and by 5% or more there wouldn't be a case. Instead we had miraculous Biden count increases from Heavy Dem controlled areas that pushed Biden over the edge. meanwhile Republicans elsewhere increased their House count, will probably hold the Senate, and increased their control of several State legislatures.

This is fishy, but you will ignore it, because, again, you go what you wanted.

Major cities with large minority populations voted heavily for the democratic candidate. That’s not a miracle. That’s literally what happens EVERY ELECTION.

And those counts just happened to put Biden enough over the top to win those states by slim margins....

And those States allowed ballots to keep being accepted past the normal acceptance times. And those States allowed mass vote by mail which creates more windows for cheating.

80k votes in Pennsylvania is a lot more than what Trump won it by in 2020. The few votes received after Election Day had no determinative effect.

What’s the argument then? They counted the votes and Biden won, which is “suspicious”.

The argument is all these little things add up to me questioning the integrity of our election system, especially in Democrat controlled areas.

But you ignore it because you got what you wanted.

Kinda hard to take these things seriously when you’re suspicious that a lot of people in Philadelphia voted for Biden. A “miracle” you called it.

I'm suspicious of the vote numbers that came in, not that they voted for Biden.

Again, you don't care because you got what you wanted.

And I 'd bet you cash money we wouldn't have heard a single murmur of concern about any of this if Trump had won. Not a peep.

Also not even ONE peep about how Republicans didn't lose a single seat. Dems are pretty lousy election cheaters. ;-)

Hard to cheat in areas where your cronies don't control things.

 

[the other mike]

 

[Contumacious]

Words have meaning. It’s not a coup. It’s just Trump being the same inveterate liar he has always been. It may destabilize and delegitimize the nation, but that’s basically been his play the whole time.

Not a coup.

How is he a liar if he thinks he's being cheated?

True. Maybe he isn’t a liar. Maybe he’s just that delusional.

Personally, I pray that he’s just a liar.

Maybe he thinks he's being cheated because he's being cheated.

You don't care because you got the result you wanted, and even if actual evidence is thrust in your face you will find a way to ignore it, because for progressive losers like you, the ends always justify the means.

He’s not being cheated. He just can’t accept he lost. This is what he does. Nothing new.

Says you, again someone who got what they wanted and has every excuse to bury your head in the sand.

To people like you cheating is just business as usual.

Says every state that certified their votes.

Trump never admits defeat. You know that about him, don’t you? That’s the problem with being fundamentally dishonest. No one actually cares what you say anymore because there’s no reason to.

Votes in the past have been certified when cheating occurred, or are you denying things like Tammany Hall never existed?

Trump is a fighter, and he is still fighting. After 4 years of your side accusing him and us of being evil incarnate why are you surprised by this?

Progressives are far more dishonest, they just use softer tones, and their lies actually harm people.

I’m not surprised by this at all.

Trump would be claiming he was cheated regardless of any facts. It makes zero difference what actually happened, Trump’s behavior is detached from reality.

If he had lost the States cleanly and by 5% or more there wouldn't be a case. Instead we had miraculous Biden count increases from Heavy Dem controlled areas that pushed Biden over the edge. meanwhile Republicans elsewhere increased their House count, will probably hold the Senate, and increased their control of several State legislatures.

This is fishy, but you will ignore it, because, again, you go what you wanted.

Major cities with large minority populations voted heavily for the democratic candidate. That’s not a miracle. That’s literally what happens EVERY ELECTION.

And those counts just happened to put Biden enough over the top to win those states by slim margins....

And those States allowed ballots to keep being accepted past the normal acceptance times. And those States allowed mass vote by mail which creates more windows for cheating.

80k votes in Pennsylvania is a lot more than what Trump won it by in 2020. The few votes received after Election Day had no determinative effect.

What’s the argument then? They counted the votes and Biden won, which is “suspicious”.

The argument is all these little things add up to me questioning the integrity of our election system, especially in Democrat controlled areas.

But you ignore it because you got what you wanted.

Kinda hard to take these things seriously when you’re suspicious that a lot of people in Philadelphia voted for Biden. A “miracle” you called it.

I'm suspicious of the vote numbers that came in, not that they voted for Biden.

Again, you don't care because you got what you wanted.

And I 'd bet you cash money we wouldn't have heard a single murmur of concern about any of this if Trump had won. Not a peep.

Also not even ONE peep about how Republicans didn't lose a single seat. Dems are pretty lousy election cheaters. ;-)

 

[DrLove]

Words have meaning. It’s not a coup. It’s just Trump being the same inveterate liar he has always been. It may destabilize and delegitimize the nation, but that’s basically been his play the whole time.

Not a coup.

How is he a liar if he thinks he's being cheated?

True. Maybe he isn’t a liar. Maybe he’s just that delusional.

Personally, I pray that he’s just a liar.

Maybe he thinks he's being cheated because he's being cheated.

You don't care because you got the result you wanted, and even if actual evidence is thrust in your face you will find a way to ignore it, because for progressive losers like you, the ends always justify the means.

He tried to get the PA and other legislators to disregard their constituents' votes and choose their own Trump electors, which is against their laws. He is collecting donations to support all his lawsuits, but that money is actually going to pay his campaign debts. He is spreading debunked lies on twitter all day every day. That's for starters.

And he has now bilked over 150 million bucks out of his loyal flock.

Report: Trump has raised more than $150 million since Election Day

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[DrLove]

SO true - And enough is ENOUGH!

President Donald Trump is not trying to simply undermine President-elect Joe Biden's presidency, nor is he primarily trying to position himself for a 2024 presidential run, as many have suggested. No, Trump's No. 1 goal is to overturn the results of the 2020 election. It's time for Biden and other Democratic leaders to describe his actions in the most forceful and universally understandable language possible. And that means, in this case, calling them part of an attempted coup to illegally overthrow the Biden presidency.​

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In the past few days, several experts have noted that Trump's actions do not technically constitute a "coup" in the academic sense. According to Michael Albertus, an associate professor of political science at the University of Chicago, for example, a coup "typically connotes a violent takeover of government." Yet these same experts warn that Trump's actions are a threat to our democracy.​

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Regardless of how you define the word, now is not the time for academic debates. Trump's wildly effective communications strategy proves that sometimes simpler is better. Biden's response, in contrast, has been far too careful and far too polite. On Thursday, Biden called Trump's efforts to undermine the election results "totally irresponsible," adding that his message to immigrants worried about Trump's electoral attacks was "Hang on. I'm on my way." Other leading Democrats have, for the most part, followed Biden's lead.​

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This message is not surprising given Biden's campaign strategy, which emphasized unity. Such sentiment was also at the heart of Biden's victory speech Nov. 7. But it is nevertheless a very bad strategy.​

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Italy's Benito Mussolini and Russia's Vladimir Putin amassed power through bullying. These types of leaders treat silence or muted responses as a sign of weakness, emboldening them to push further with their authoritarian goals.​

CONTINUED:

Opinion | Why Biden should stop parsing words and call Trump's lies a coup

Regardless of how you define the word, now is not the time for academic debates.

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I,LL TRY TO BE KIND BUT ARE YOU FOR REAL? What makes one think the way you do? Or is that even consider thinking? Are you a member of the Communist China party and got a little of that 1.5 billion deal of biden,s? Hillary to honest for you? Following the Constitution just to much madness for you. At birth were you deprived oxygen till age 40? . Maybe you just hate America or someone shot you in the face. If were you I WOULD GET OUT OF THOSE SOILED DRAWERS, DO SOME TEXT BOOK POTTY TRAINING AND TRY BUYING A CLUE .IF THAT DON'T WORK SWALLOW A GUN BARREL

That's your idea of being kind?

Yep - Encouraging someone on the Internet to kill themselves is generally frowned upon.

 

[OldLady]

Words have meaning. It’s not a coup. It’s just Trump being the same inveterate liar he has always been. It may destabilize and delegitimize the nation, but that’s basically been his play the whole time.

Not a coup.

How is he a liar if he thinks he's being cheated?

True. Maybe he isn’t a liar. Maybe he’s just that delusional.

Personally, I pray that he’s just a liar.

Maybe he thinks he's being cheated because he's being cheated.

You don't care because you got the result you wanted, and even if actual evidence is thrust in your face you will find a way to ignore it, because for progressive losers like you, the ends always justify the means.

He tried to get the PA and other legislators to disregard their constituents' votes and choose their own Trump electors, which is against their laws. He is collecting donations to support all his lawsuits, but that money is actually going to pay his campaign debts. He is spreading debunked lies on twitter all day every day. That's for starters.

And he has now bilked over 150 million bucks out of his loyal flock.

Report: Trump has raised more than $150 million since Election Day

The latest Speed Read,/speed-reads,,speed-reads, breaking news, comment, reviews and features from the experts at The Week

theweek.com

Good reason to keep this going. Social Security checks must be coming out about now.

 

[martybegan]

Words have meaning. It’s not a coup. It’s just Trump being the same inveterate liar he has always been. It may destabilize and delegitimize the nation, but that’s basically been his play the whole time.

Not a coup.

How is he a liar if he thinks he's being cheated?

True. Maybe he isn’t a liar. Maybe he’s just that delusional.

Personally, I pray that he’s just a liar.

Maybe he thinks he's being cheated because he's being cheated.

You don't care because you got the result you wanted, and even if actual evidence is thrust in your face you will find a way to ignore it, because for progressive losers like you, the ends always justify the means.

He tried to get the PA and other legislators to disregard their constituents' votes and choose their own Trump electors, which is against their laws. He is collecting donations to support all his lawsuits, but that money is actually going to pay his campaign debts. He is spreading debunked lies on twitter all day every day. That's for starters.

And he has now bilked over 150 million bucks out of his loyal flock.

Report: Trump has raised more than $150 million since Election Day

The latest Speed Read,/speed-reads,,speed-reads, breaking news, comment, reviews and features from the experts at The Week

theweek.com

Your disdain of your fellow citizens is telling.