Trump’s Empire: A Maze of Debts and Opaque Ties

[Norman]

Not just that he borrows money but who he borrows from and the types of loans he has taken and the poor decisions that he has made. There are reasons he has to seek foreign investors you know.

Now you're speculating. What "poor decisions?" His Atlantic casinos? Corporate America poured billions of dollars into Atlantic city after it legalized casino gambling. Many casinos went bankrupt, not just Trumps'. Every real estate project is a gamble, and sometimes they lose money. That doesn't make it a "poor decision." Trump has beaten the odds with his investments. He has a few losers but the vast majority are winners. Most businessmen would be ecstatic to have a record like Trump's.

A lot of money in this country is from foreign sources. When I bought my first house, a Swedish bank was the sinister foreign source that provided the money. HSBC is a Chinese bank, but it has branch offices in virtually every city in America. Your "foreign sources" gambit is just a sleazy propaganda meme. Nothing Trump has done is illegal. On the other hand, Hillary has accepted billions in bribe money and violated the the laws concerning handling of classified materials. She also obstructed justice and perjured herself. Your attempt at an equivalence is laughable.

I'm not speculating, the Taj Mahal was built with junk bonds. The Soho was built with zoning restrictions. Imagine paying 2 million dollars for a condo that you had to vacate for 2/3 of the year while it was rented out..... he is stupid and so are those that tout his business record as worthy of the presidency.

Both claims are total bullshit. The term "junk bonds" is virtually meaningless.

I love these libs who criticize Trump's business decisions, because they obviously would have done so much better. That's why Trump is the billionaire, while they are in a permanent state of unemployment, fearing that Trump might take their free tax payer paid stuff away.

Junk or in other words "high yield" more speculative bonds are completely fair game. But of course someone illiterate in economics, but yet deeming himself worthy of giving advice to a billionaire would disagree. It's the liberal Dunning-Kruger at work again!

They led to bankruptcy.

Yes, and it was one business, out of his 500? How many do you have?

Running businesses is risky. It's not about winning every trade but winning most of them. Anyone who has read economics 101 knows this, sadly few people seem to have done that.

 

[SwimExpert]

The term "junk bonds" is virtually meaningless.

So what would you call it?

Bonds that left wingers don't like.

Oh. So the fact that they are below investment grade is what? Liberal bias in the finance industry?

 

[bripat9643]

What was written about Trump is fairly common knowledge. He has a history that is public knowledge that many (all) of you ignore. The hypocrisy is astounding.

You mean the fact that he borrows money to finance his real estate projects? Can you list anyone who doesn't?

Not just that he borrows money but who he borrows from and the types of loans he has taken and the poor decisions that he has made. There are reasons he has to seek foreign investors you know.

Now you're speculating. What "poor decisions?" His Atlantic casinos? Corporate America poured billions of dollars into Atlantic city after it legalized casino gambling. Many casinos went bankrupt, not just Trumps'. Every real estate project is a gamble, and sometimes they lose money. That doesn't make it a "poor decision." Trump has beaten the odds with his investments. He has a few losers but the vast majority are winners. Most businessmen would be ecstatic to have a record like Trump's.

A lot of money in this country is from foreign sources. When I bought my first house, a Swedish bank was the sinister foreign source that provided the money. HSBC is a Chinese bank, but it has branch offices in virtually every city in America. Your "foreign sources" gambit is just a sleazy propaganda meme. Nothing Trump has done is illegal. On the other hand, Hillary has accepted billions in bribe money and violated the the laws concerning handling of classified materials. She also obstructed justice and perjured herself. Your attempt at an equivalence is laughable.

I'm not speculating, the Taj Mahal was built with junk bonds. The Soho was built with zoning restrictions. Imagine paying 2 million dollars for a condo that you had to vacate for 2/3 of the year while it was rented out..... he is stupid and so are those that tout his business record as worthy of the presidency.

Both claims are total bullshit. The term "junk bonds" is virtually meaningless.

Not just that he borrows money but who he borrows from and the types of loans he has taken and the poor decisions that he has made. There are reasons he has to seek foreign investors you know.

Now you're speculating. What "poor decisions?" His Atlantic casinos? Corporate America poured billions of dollars into Atlantic city after it legalized casino gambling. Many casinos went bankrupt, not just Trumps'. Every real estate project is a gamble, and sometimes they lose money. That doesn't make it a "poor decision." Trump has beaten the odds with his investments. He has a few losers but the vast majority are winners. Most businessmen would be ecstatic to have a record like Trump's.

A lot of money in this country is from foreign sources. When I bought my first house, a Swedish bank was the sinister foreign source that provided the money. HSBC is a Chinese bank, but it has branch offices in virtually every city in America. Your "foreign sources" gambit is just a sleazy propaganda meme. Nothing Trump has done is illegal. On the other hand, Hillary has accepted billions in bribe money and violated the the laws concerning handling of classified materials. She also obstructed justice and perjured herself. Your attempt at an equivalence is laughable.

I'm not speculating, the Taj Mahal was built with junk bonds. The Soho was built with zoning restrictions. Imagine paying 2 million dollars for a condo that you had to vacate for 2/3 of the year while it was rented out..... he is stupid and so are those that tout his business record as worthy of the presidency.

Both claims are total bullshit. The term "junk bonds" is virtually meaningless.

I love these libs who criticize Trump's business decisions, because they obviously would have done so much better. That's why Trump is the billionaire, while they are in a permanent state of unemployment, fearing that Trump might take their free tax payer paid stuff away.

Junk or in other words "high yield" more speculative bonds are completely fair game. But of course someone illiterate in economics, but yet deeming himself worthy of giving advice to a billionaire would disagree. It's the liberal Dunning-Kruger at work again!

They led to bankruptcy.

Not until Dim politicians started agitating against them and forced banks to divest themselves of all "junk" bonds. Many of the high tech companies in Silicon Valley were started using "junk" bonds.

 

[bripat9643]

Now you're speculating. What "poor decisions?" His Atlantic casinos? Corporate America poured billions of dollars into Atlantic city after it legalized casino gambling. Many casinos went bankrupt, not just Trumps'. Every real estate project is a gamble, and sometimes they lose money. That doesn't make it a "poor decision." Trump has beaten the odds with his investments. He has a few losers but the vast majority are winners. Most businessmen would be ecstatic to have a record like Trump's.

A lot of money in this country is from foreign sources. When I bought my first house, a Swedish bank was the sinister foreign source that provided the money. HSBC is a Chinese bank, but it has branch offices in virtually every city in America. Your "foreign sources" gambit is just a sleazy propaganda meme. Nothing Trump has done is illegal. On the other hand, Hillary has accepted billions in bribe money and violated the the laws concerning handling of classified materials. She also obstructed justice and perjured herself. Your attempt at an equivalence is laughable.

I'm not speculating, the Taj Mahal was built with junk bonds. The Soho was built with zoning restrictions. Imagine paying 2 million dollars for a condo that you had to vacate for 2/3 of the year while it was rented out..... he is stupid and so are those that tout his business record as worthy of the presidency.

Both claims are total bullshit. The term "junk bonds" is virtually meaningless.

I love these libs who criticize Trump's business decisions, because they obviously would have done so much better. That's why Trump is the billionaire, while they are in a permanent state of unemployment, fearing that Trump might take their free tax payer paid stuff away.

Junk or in other words "high yield" more speculative bonds are completely fair game. But of course someone illiterate in economics, but yet deeming himself worthy of giving advice to a billionaire would disagree. It's the liberal Dunning-Kruger at work again!

They led to bankruptcy.

Yes, and it was one business, out of his 500? How many do you have?

Running businesses is risky. It's not about winning every trade but winning most of them. Anyone who has read economics 101 knows this, sadly few people seem to have done that.

Yes, but leave it to left wingers to always mischaracterize anything the public doesn't understand as something sinister.

 

[bripat9643]

The term "junk bonds" is virtually meaningless.

So what would you call it?

Bonds that left wingers don't like.

Oh. So the fact that they are below investment grade is what? Liberal bias in the finance industry?

"Investment grade" is purely an arbitrary label applied by ratings companies like Moody's. It has no objective meaning.

 

[SwimExpert]

The term "junk bonds" is virtually meaningless.

So what would you call it?

Bonds that left wingers don't like.

Oh. So the fact that they are below investment grade is what? Liberal bias in the finance industry?

"Investment grade" is purely an arbitrary label applied by ratings companies like Moody's. It has no objective meaning.

Yeah. Because the finance industry is all about making arbitrary analyses of.....finance. Jesus fucking Christ, when people ask "can bripat be more of a fucking idiot?" it's not a fucking challenge.

 

[Norman]

The term "junk bonds" is virtually meaningless.

So what would you call it?

Bonds that left wingers don't like.

Oh. So the fact that they are below investment grade is what? Liberal bias in the finance industry?

"Investment grade" is purely an arbitrary label applied by ratings companies like Moody's. It has no objective meaning.

Yeah. Because the finance industry is all about making arbitrary analyses of.....finance. Jesus fucking Christ, when people ask "can bripat be more of a fucking idiot?" it's not a fucking challenge.

It's iron grade irony how his point went completely over your head...

 

[SwimExpert]

So what would you call it?

Bonds that left wingers don't like.

Oh. So the fact that they are below investment grade is what? Liberal bias in the finance industry?

"Investment grade" is purely an arbitrary label applied by ratings companies like Moody's. It has no objective meaning.

Yeah. Because the finance industry is all about making arbitrary analyses of.....finance. Jesus fucking Christ, when people ask "can bripat be more of a fucking idiot?" it's not a fucking challenge.

It's iron grade irony how his point went completely over your head...

Yeah well, with points like bripat's, I'll make a point not to take investment advice from him.

 

[bripat9643]

The term "junk bonds" is virtually meaningless.

So what would you call it?

Bonds that left wingers don't like.

Oh. So the fact that they are below investment grade is what? Liberal bias in the finance industry?

"Investment grade" is purely an arbitrary label applied by ratings companies like Moody's. It has no objective meaning.

Yeah. Because the finance industry is all about making arbitrary analyses of.....finance. Jesus fucking Christ, when people ask "can bripat be more of a fucking idiot?" it's not a fucking challenge.

I didn't say their analysis is arbitrary. I said their label was arbitrary. Considering the amount of interest they earned, so-called "junk bonds" were shown to be safe investments. Some might go South, but the ones that didn't paid more than enough to cover any losses. That is, until the Fed made it illegal for banks to hold junk bonds. This action destroyed the market for junk bonds and their price plummeted as a result.

 

[bripat9643]

Bonds that left wingers don't like.

Oh. So the fact that they are below investment grade is what? Liberal bias in the finance industry?

"Investment grade" is purely an arbitrary label applied by ratings companies like Moody's. It has no objective meaning.

Yeah. Because the finance industry is all about making arbitrary analyses of.....finance. Jesus fucking Christ, when people ask "can bripat be more of a fucking idiot?" it's not a fucking challenge.

It's iron grade irony how his point went completely over your head...

Yeah well, with points like bripat's, I'll make a point not to take investment advice from him.

So what's your net worth, moron?

 

[bripat9643]

So what would you call it?

Bonds that left wingers don't like.

Oh. So the fact that they are below investment grade is what? Liberal bias in the finance industry?

"Investment grade" is purely an arbitrary label applied by ratings companies like Moody's. It has no objective meaning.

Yeah. Because the finance industry is all about making arbitrary analyses of.....finance. Jesus fucking Christ, when people ask "can bripat be more of a fucking idiot?" it's not a fucking challenge.

It's iron grade irony how his point went completely over your head...

There's a good reason I call people like him "douche bags."

 

[Silhouette]

anyone who wasn't sucking on the government tit would have a conflict of interest.

I'm pretty sure Trump has been latched onto that mammary gland from time to time. Runs in my mind government greased the skids for him on more than one occasion in his financial endeavors. There's a reason he and Rudy are buddy buddy pals..

Welfare is terrible terrible TERRIBLE!!! (Unless it's corporate welfare...)

 

[SwimExpert]

Oh. So the fact that they are below investment grade is what? Liberal bias in the finance industry?

"Investment grade" is purely an arbitrary label applied by ratings companies like Moody's. It has no objective meaning.

Yeah. Because the finance industry is all about making arbitrary analyses of.....finance. Jesus fucking Christ, when people ask "can bripat be more of a fucking idiot?" it's not a fucking challenge.

It's iron grade irony how his point went completely over your head...

Yeah well, with points like bripat's, I'll make a point not to take investment advice from him.

So what's your net worth, moron?

More than your gofundme managed to make.

 

[bripat9643]

anyone who wasn't sucking on the government tit would have a conflict of interest.

I'm pretty sure Trump has been latched onto that mammary gland from time to time. Runs in my mind government greased the skids for him on more than one occasion in his financial endeavors. There's a reason he and Rudy are buddy buddy pals..

Welfare is terrible terrible TERRIBLE!!! (Unless it's corporate welfare...)

Please provide an example of Trump receiving government welfare.

 

[guno]

"Trump’s Empire: A Maze of Debts and Opaque Ties

Hmmm...the US foreign policy in general: A Maze of Debts and Opaque Ties.... Maybe I was wrong about Trump. He is the perfect president!

Not really. Now kindly address the issue....which ultimately is that Donald's dealings would create one giant conflict of interest -- which is what the former CIA director said.

We don't care.....get it.

Yet you expect people to care about the Clinton Foundation.

No, it's because the press is in the tank for hillary. So we don't care what's in print.
It's all bias.
You bring up the clinton foundation.
Who in the alphabet media is questioning it? Certainly not ABC.

What was written about Trump is fairly common knowledge. He has a history that is public knowledge that many (all) of you ignore. The hypocrisy is astounding.

People in NYC have known about the con man for years , yet the uneducated rubes in flyover country are impervious to facts

 

[jillian]

anyone who wasn't sucking on the government tit would have a conflict of interest.

I'm pretty sure Trump has been latched onto that mammary gland from time to time. Runs in my mind government greased the skids for him on more than one occasion in his financial endeavors. There's a reason he and Rudy are buddy buddy pals..

Welfare is terrible terrible TERRIBLE!!! (Unless it's corporate welfare...)

Please provide an example of Trump receiving government welfare.

hundreds of millions in tax abatements for him to do things other developers would have done without the corporate welfare.

you're welcome

 

[jillian]

Not really. Now kindly address the issue....which ultimately is that Donald's dealings would create one giant conflict of interest -- which is what the former CIA director said.

We don't care.....get it.

Yet you expect people to care about the Clinton Foundation.

No, it's because the press is in the tank for hillary. So we don't care what's in print.
It's all bias.
You bring up the clinton foundation.
Who in the alphabet media is questioning it? Certainly not ABC.

What was written about Trump is fairly common knowledge. He has a history that is public knowledge that many (all) of you ignore. The hypocrisy is astounding.

People in NYC have known about the con man for years , yet the uneducated rubes in flyover country are impervious to facts

there's a reason mike bloomberg talked about him the way he did.

 

[Norman]

anyone who wasn't sucking on the government tit would have a conflict of interest.

I'm pretty sure Trump has been latched onto that mammary gland from time to time. Runs in my mind government greased the skids for him on more than one occasion in his financial endeavors. There's a reason he and Rudy are buddy buddy pals..

Welfare is terrible terrible TERRIBLE!!! (Unless it's corporate welfare...)

Please provide an example of Trump receiving government welfare.

hundreds of millions in tax abatements for him to do things other developers would have done without the corporate welfare.

you're welcome

So he plays billions in taxes... and now receiving a bit of a tax reduction constitutes welfare?

You are out of your mind.

 

[bripat9643]

anyone who wasn't sucking on the government tit would have a conflict of interest.

I'm pretty sure Trump has been latched onto that mammary gland from time to time. Runs in my mind government greased the skids for him on more than one occasion in his financial endeavors. There's a reason he and Rudy are buddy buddy pals..

Welfare is terrible terrible TERRIBLE!!! (Unless it's corporate welfare...)

Please provide an example of Trump receiving government welfare.

hundreds of millions in tax abatements for him to do things other developers would have done without the corporate welfare.

you're welcome

Prove it, dingbat.

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[bripat9643]

We don't care.....get it.

Yet you expect people to care about the Clinton Foundation.

No, it's because the press is in the tank for hillary. So we don't care what's in print.
It's all bias.
You bring up the clinton foundation.
Who in the alphabet media is questioning it? Certainly not ABC.

What was written about Trump is fairly common knowledge. He has a history that is public knowledge that many (all) of you ignore. The hypocrisy is astounding.

People in NYC have known about the con man for years , yet the uneducated rubes in flyover country are impervious to facts

there's a reason mike bloomberg talked about him the way he did.

Because he's a leftwing douchr bag?

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