Trumps "immunity" defence is punctured by the first question

[gtopa1]

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Greg

 

[Chillicothe]

Lastamender Can't do it.

But, prolific poster Lastamender can display, once again, reliably --- his fascination with and obsession about -- feces and coprophilia.
It's icky. Fairly repellant. All here recognize that.
But.....but it is who he is. How he was raised. What he became.

 

[kyzr]

OK, poster Lastamender, you allege Biden didn't win legally.
Prove it.
Prove Biden didn't win legally.
Man up. Cowboy up. Show your grit. Show credibility.

Trump got 11,000,000 more votes in 2020 than in 2016
Biden got 81,000,000 votes in 2020

Biden got 30,000,000 more votes than typically vote in a presidential election due to mail-in election fraud. QED

 

[forkup]

The judge’s question was ignorant.

A presidential act doesn’t suffice.

The law already says that it would have to be within the “outer boundaries” of the President’s authority. No President has any Constitutional authority to murder an opponent.

The Commander In Chief has the authority to order military units to attack enemies. The President can do so without approval of Congress. And as such has the authority to decide who's a treat to national security.

There you go "outer boundaries"

Just like saying that lying about what the DOJ is telling you so you can insist the election was stolen from you. Ignoring the findings of over sixty judges, and claiming the VP can ignore the certified election results because he unilaterally decides he doesn't believe the results. Is simply an expression of a President's duty to ensure a free and fair election.


Motivated reasoning is a powerful thing. And if you don't care about the credibility of the argument by stating "outer boundaries" of presidential duty you can basically justify most anything.

 

[Chillicothe]

due to mail-in election fraud. QED

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Ummm, 'QED'?
Not quite.
Your assertion ain't proof.
Where was the fraud?
To what degree?
What impact did your alleged fraud have on any particular precinct?
Any State? Which elections?
Have you been able to "prove" your assertion before any bodies other than a right-leaning social media site? And your own mind?

Batter up, good poster 'kyzr'.

 

[Mac1958]

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Ummm, 'QED'?
Not quite.
Your assertion ain't proof.
Where was the fraud?
To what degree?
What impact did your alleged fraud have on any particular precinct?
Any State? Which elections?
Have you been able to "prove" your assertion before any bodies other than a right-leaning social media site? And your own mind?

Batter up, good poster 'kyzr'.

I don't think they understand what "proof" means.

To them, 1+1+_____+_____ = "Proof"

 

[Lesh]

We have seen mental illness personified in Joe's administration alone the last few years. It looks like some dystopian post-apocalyptic world. Trump to you and others is a lot of things. He has been accused of a lot. Well, he sees things also. And he can accuse. He just does not have the 5th column of media and entertainers on his side. Look how prissy Jimmy Kimmel got with Aaron Rogers. There is not a day that goes by that he does not demean and destroy anyone not a Prog. And if it is hearsay, so what. Just to see a video of Rogers eating the shit out of Kimmel would be worth the price of a ticket. Kimmel with his words have set people to hurt other people. Like many other TV media/entertainers.

We see mental illness was every time you post

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Barry the Boiking summarily executed a U.S. citizen on foreign soil, and nothing happened.

So..............What does that have to do with..........ANYTHING?
WHERE was Anwar al-Awlaki killed?

 

[Seymour Flops]

The prosecutors have Trump running around the country making absolutely ridiculous arguments in court.

Which has never been a crime for any other American. How are you the legal scholar that can analyse Trump's lawyers' legal strategy?

Should make you wonder why a man purported to be an innocent and a victim of persecution would go to such extremes when defending themselves.

Lawyers try everything. It's how they get maximum fees, and avoid being sued for leaving something out.

Let me guess: You think Trump commits a crime if his lawyers don't put on a minimalist defense?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Biden got 30,000,000 more votes than typically vote in a presidential election due to mail-in election fraud.

I missed your link to the proof of this statement.

I am sure it was just an oversight on your part

 

[candycorn]

Judge Florence Pan started off her questioning of Trump lawyer John Sauer by offering a novel scenario.

“Could a president who ordered SEAL Team Six to assassinate a political rival and was not impeached, could he be subjected to criminal prosecution?” Pan asked.

After some back and forth, Sauer said, “Qualified yes, if he’s impeached and convicted first.”

Trump doubles down after DC hearing: ‘Most people agree that we’re entitled to immunity’ – as it happened

If the judges rule in favor of Trump, it could lead to the dropping of the criminal charges brought by special counsel Jack Smith

www.theguardian.com

This is not how democracies run. It is how imperial dictators run things. The US fought against this but perhaps the founders had not considered a trump when forming the constitution.

Trump’s ambulance chaser sounded like a complete moron. Nowhere in the constitution does it remotely infer that a President has to be impeached and removed from office before he can be indicted and tried for a crime.

 

[Missourian]

Gotta love watching Republicans move the Goalposts to meet your needs

Dont want to Impeach after Trump is President?
Claim you can’t do it

Need to claim Impeachment is needed before you can criminally convict an ex President?
Claim you can impeach anytime

Spin, spin, spin, spin, spin.

I ask a simple question...all I get back is spin.

Perhaps the third time is a charm.

Where does it say a president can't be impeached after the end of their term?

 

[rightwinger]

Where does it say a president can't be impeached after the end of their term?

Ask Republicans
They are the ones who used it as an excuse to acquit Trump

I am merely pointing out their hypocrisy

 

[Care4all]

Trump doubles down after DC hearing: ‘Most people agree that we’re entitled to immunity’ – as it happened

If the judges rule in favor of Trump, it could lead to the dropping of the criminal charges brought by special counsel Jack Smith

www.theguardian.com

Its going really badly. The judges arent having it at all. How did he think this would fly with adults ? Educated people.

He knew it wouldn't, but his goal is DELAY, DELAY, DELAY.

 

[Crick]

Congress can impeach anytime. While the president is in office after the president is in office. After the president dies. Make your arguments but please try to stick to facts.

In fact, Congress did impeach him after he left office, specifically for inciting an insurrection. Naturally, he was acquitted the charge being so bizarrely counterfactual.

Do you believe the president could assassinate a political rival and go unpunished if he was not impeached and convicted for the crime?

And are you actually willing to vote for someone who makes that precise argument?

 

[Care4all]

"Peacefully and patriotically" instigates nothing.

A 5 second blurp in a 3600 second fire driven inciting speech, obviously meant nothing, to the people there...

 

[Lesh]

Do you believe the president could assassinate a political rival and go unpunished if he was not impeached and convicted for the crime?

And are you actually willing to vote for someone who makes that precise argument?

Trump (through his lawyers) made that claim yesterday

 

[Crick]

So why on Earth would you support Biden?

Why do you wonder? For what impeachable Biden offenses do you have evidence?

 

[Lesh]

A 5 second blurp in a 3600 second fire driven inciting speech, obviously meant nothing, to the people there...

The irony here is that on Jan 5 Ray Epps is on video saying to … enter the Capitol … PEACEFULLY

But HE should be punished… but not Trump

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Its intereting that nobody is really defending trumps assertion on this thread. Even maga is pretty quiet on this.
Maybe there is hope ?