Trump's Plan to Steal Iraq's Oil

[Camp]

Trump: Take Iraq's Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

"Donald Trump says he would defeat ISIS by taking over the oil fields the terrorists have seized in Iraq.

"We should definitely take back money for our soldiers," he told NBC's "Meet the Press" with Chuck Todd on Sunday."

" And ISIS is taking over a lot of the oil in certain areas of Iraq. And I said, you take away their wealth. You go and knock the hell out of the oil. Take back the oil. We take over the oil, which we should have done in the first place.""

Really? Go back into Iraq, the country we supposedly 'liberated', and steal their oil to pay our war debt?

Isn't that what they call plunder? Wouldn't we in fact be doing just what ISIS is doing?

Trump Take Iraq s Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

It gets worse. His solution to defeating ISIS has no chance of success and his estimates of the number of troops needed are pure fantasy only the suckers who support him will believe. The stolen oil would not pay for the deployment of military forces needed to attempt his stupid idea. They certainly wouldn't pay for the new flood of killed and maimed troops his plan would create when the cost of his nit wit idea is added up. This to say nothing about the fact he would have to invade Syria where most of the ISIS controlled oil wells are.

and you were all for the Obama's complete pull out of Iraq, which lead to the islamonazi take over ..You're a genius

You don't know what I was for or against. You just don't know how to defend Trump's foolishness so you are deflecting to blaming Obama for the situation that exist. It does not matter who did what in the past. It is all up for historical debate. What counts now is how to defeat ISIS and Trump's answer and ideas will not defeat ISIS. Instead it will get us into a bigger war then we had under W.

We are going to have to deal with two insurgencies. And we are going to have to deal with a really monstrous one with Isis.

Trumps first plan would work better. Bomb the oil under Isis control, and the pipelines. Make it so they can't get any benefit.

Trump is an inexperienced and horribly uniformed novice. ISIS had no oil wells when they took territory in Syria and minimum amounts when they took Iraq. They don't need oil to continue. It may be helpful, but they will not fold up and run away just because they don't have oil income. They will simple raise taxes in the territory they control and increase tribute demands from the tribes. All that fool Trump will do is a repeat of what the fool Bush did, provide targets for the enemy. ISIS will gain recruits and experience a resurgence of support as the faithful flock to the battlefield to kill the demon American invaders.

All the talk about bombing the hell out of them is talking the talk. He, nor the country will walk the walk because there is no way to do it without inflicting enormous amounts of collateral damage. Someone, preferably Trump, has to explain how you can bomb the hell out of an enemy that is dispersed to small towns and villages and hiding among the civilian population, or worse, hiding in densely populated cities among the civilian population without creating truck loads of dead children and other innocent civilians.

Trump's stupid talk and idea has been and is currently being used by the Syrians to try and defeat ISIS and all it has ever done is make the population hate the Syrian government more and recruit more soldiers to ISIS.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Trump: Take Iraq's Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

"Donald Trump says he would defeat ISIS by taking over the oil fields the terrorists have seized in Iraq.

"We should definitely take back money for our soldiers," he told NBC's "Meet the Press" with Chuck Todd on Sunday."

" And ISIS is taking over a lot of the oil in certain areas of Iraq. And I said, you take away their wealth. You go and knock the hell out of the oil. Take back the oil. We take over the oil, which we should have done in the first place.""

Really? Go back into Iraq, the country we supposedly 'liberated', and steal their oil to pay our war debt?

Isn't that what they call plunder? Wouldn't we in fact be doing just what ISIS is doing?

Trump Take Iraq s Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

It gets worse. His solution to defeating ISIS has no chance of success and his estimates of the number of troops needed are pure fantasy only the suckers who support him will believe. The stolen oil would not pay for the deployment of military forces needed to attempt his stupid idea. They certainly wouldn't pay for the new flood of killed and maimed troops his plan would create when the cost of his nit wit idea is added up. This to say nothing about the fact he would have to invade Syria where most of the ISIS controlled oil wells are.

and you were all for the Obama's complete pull out of Iraq, which lead to the islamonazi take over ..You're a genius

You don't know what I was for or against. You just don't know how to defend Trump's foolishness so you are deflecting to blaming Obama for the situation that exist. It does not matter who did what in the past. It is all up for historical debate. What counts now is how to defeat ISIS and Trump's answer and ideas will not defeat ISIS. Instead it will get us into a bigger war then we had under W.

We are going to have to deal with two insurgencies. And we are going to have to deal with a really monstrous one with Isis.

Trumps first plan would work better. Bomb the oil under Isis control, and the pipelines. Make it so they can't get any benefit.

Trump is an inexperienced and horribly uniformed novice. ISIS had no oil wells when they took territory in Syria and minimum amounts when they took Iraq. They don't need oil to continue. It may be helpful, but they will not fold up and run away just because they don't have oil income. They will simple raise taxes in the territory they control and increase tribute demands from the tribes. All that fool Trump will do is a repeat of what the fool Bush did, provide targets for the enemy. ISIS will gain recruits and experience a resurgence of support as the faithful flock to the battlefield to kill the demon American invaders.

All the talk about bombing the hell out of them is talking the talk. He, nor the country will walk the walk because there is no way to do it without inflicting enormous amounts of collateral damage. Someone, preferably Trump, has to explain how you can bomb the hell out of an enemy that is dispersed to small towns and villages and hiding among the civilian population, or worse, hiding in densely populated cities among the civilian population without creating truck loads of dead children and other innocent civilians.

Trump's stupid talk and idea has been and is currently being used by the Syrians to try and defeat ISIS and all it has ever done is make the population hate the Syrian government more and recruit more soldiers to ISIS.

Trump is an inexperienced and horribly uniformed novice.

Talk like that is going to attract Obama voters, they love inexperienced and horribly uniformed novices.

 

[Camp]

It gets worse. His solution to defeating ISIS has no chance of success and his estimates of the number of troops needed are pure fantasy only the suckers who support him will believe. The stolen oil would not pay for the deployment of military forces needed to attempt his stupid idea. They certainly wouldn't pay for the new flood of killed and maimed troops his plan would create when the cost of his nit wit idea is added up. This to say nothing about the fact he would have to invade Syria where most of the ISIS controlled oil wells are.

and you were all for the Obama's complete pull out of Iraq, which lead to the islamonazi take over ..You're a genius

You don't know what I was for or against. You just don't know how to defend Trump's foolishness so you are deflecting to blaming Obama for the situation that exist. It does not matter who did what in the past. It is all up for historical debate. What counts now is how to defeat ISIS and Trump's answer and ideas will not defeat ISIS. Instead it will get us into a bigger war then we had under W.

We are going to have to deal with two insurgencies. And we are going to have to deal with a really monstrous one with Isis.

Trumps first plan would work better. Bomb the oil under Isis control, and the pipelines. Make it so they can't get any benefit.

Trump is an inexperienced and horribly uniformed novice. ISIS had no oil wells when they took territory in Syria and minimum amounts when they took Iraq. They don't need oil to continue. It may be helpful, but they will not fold up and run away just because they don't have oil income. They will simple raise taxes in the territory they control and increase tribute demands from the tribes. All that fool Trump will do is a repeat of what the fool Bush did, provide targets for the enemy. ISIS will gain recruits and experience a resurgence of support as the faithful flock to the battlefield to kill the demon American invaders.

All the talk about bombing the hell out of them is talking the talk. He, nor the country will walk the walk because there is no way to do it without inflicting enormous amounts of collateral damage. Someone, preferably Trump, has to explain how you can bomb the hell out of an enemy that is dispersed to small towns and villages and hiding among the civilian population, or worse, hiding in densely populated cities among the civilian population without creating truck loads of dead children and other innocent civilians.

Trump's stupid talk and idea has been and is currently being used by the Syrians to try and defeat ISIS and all it has ever done is make the population hate the Syrian government more and recruit more soldiers to ISIS.

Trump is an inexperienced and horribly uniformed novice.

Talk like that is going to attract Obama voters, they love inexperienced and horribly uniformed novices.

Do you think it will lose him votes in 2016?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

and you were all for the Obama's complete pull out of Iraq, which lead to the islamonazi take over ..You're a genius

You don't know what I was for or against. You just don't know how to defend Trump's foolishness so you are deflecting to blaming Obama for the situation that exist. It does not matter who did what in the past. It is all up for historical debate. What counts now is how to defeat ISIS and Trump's answer and ideas will not defeat ISIS. Instead it will get us into a bigger war then we had under W.

We are going to have to deal with two insurgencies. And we are going to have to deal with a really monstrous one with Isis.

Trumps first plan would work better. Bomb the oil under Isis control, and the pipelines. Make it so they can't get any benefit.

Trump is an inexperienced and horribly uniformed novice. ISIS had no oil wells when they took territory in Syria and minimum amounts when they took Iraq. They don't need oil to continue. It may be helpful, but they will not fold up and run away just because they don't have oil income. They will simple raise taxes in the territory they control and increase tribute demands from the tribes. All that fool Trump will do is a repeat of what the fool Bush did, provide targets for the enemy. ISIS will gain recruits and experience a resurgence of support as the faithful flock to the battlefield to kill the demon American invaders.

All the talk about bombing the hell out of them is talking the talk. He, nor the country will walk the walk because there is no way to do it without inflicting enormous amounts of collateral damage. Someone, preferably Trump, has to explain how you can bomb the hell out of an enemy that is dispersed to small towns and villages and hiding among the civilian population, or worse, hiding in densely populated cities among the civilian population without creating truck loads of dead children and other innocent civilians.

Trump's stupid talk and idea has been and is currently being used by the Syrians to try and defeat ISIS and all it has ever done is make the population hate the Syrian government more and recruit more soldiers to ISIS.

Trump is an inexperienced and horribly uniformed novice.

Talk like that is going to attract Obama voters, they love inexperienced and horribly uniformed novices.

Do you think it will lose him votes in 2016?

His resemblance to Obama, maybe.

 

[TooTall]

Trump: Take Iraq's Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

"Donald Trump says he would defeat ISIS by taking over the oil fields the terrorists have seized in Iraq.

"We should definitely take back money for our soldiers," he told NBC's "Meet the Press" with Chuck Todd on Sunday."

" And ISIS is taking over a lot of the oil in certain areas of Iraq. And I said, you take away their wealth. You go and knock the hell out of the oil. Take back the oil. We take over the oil, which we should have done in the first place.""

Really? Go back into Iraq, the country we supposedly 'liberated', and steal their oil to pay our war debt?

Isn't that what they call plunder? Wouldn't we in fact be doing just what ISIS is doing?

Trump Take Iraq s Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

It gets worse. His solution to defeating ISIS has no chance of success and his estimates of the number of troops needed are pure fantasy only the suckers who support him will believe. The stolen oil would not pay for the deployment of military forces needed to attempt his stupid idea. They certainly wouldn't pay for the new flood of killed and maimed troops his plan would create when the cost of his nit wit idea is added up. This to say nothing about the fact he would have to invade Syria where most of the ISIS controlled oil wells are.

and you were all for the Obama's complete pull out of Iraq, which lead to the islamonazi take over ..You're a genius

Yeah, cuz there were no terrorists until Obama was elected.

It wasn't Obama who made the agreement to leave Iraq and it was Reagan/Bush who gave birth to what is now ISIL.

Yeah, cuz there were no terrorists until Obama was elected.

Obama was so cool, he was gonna get the terrorists to lay down their weapons just by talking.
What happened? Does his teleprompter not speak terrorist?

Obama was stuck to a schedule and agreement Bush signed a month before he left office and turned his mess over to the new guy. There was no reason for Bush to make that agreement other than the ending of the UN Resolution that supported troops in Iraq to start with. He could not get a renewed UN Resolution and he could not get an extended SOFA so he dumped the mess on the incoming administration. Bush had all those years to finish that war. More years than it took to defeat both Germany and Japan in WWll.
Obama concentrated on going after the real terrorist who attacked us on 9/11. That was something Bush also failed to do.

Obama was incapable of getting a SOFA because he didn't want one. Bush's plan was to leave at least 10,000 troops in Iraq at the advice of the Pentagon. We now have 3,000 troops in Iraq with no SOFA. Figure that one out.

 

[TooTall]

Trump: Take Iraq's Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

"Donald Trump says he would defeat ISIS by taking over the oil fields the terrorists have seized in Iraq.

"We should definitely take back money for our soldiers," he told NBC's "Meet the Press" with Chuck Todd on Sunday."

" And ISIS is taking over a lot of the oil in certain areas of Iraq. And I said, you take away their wealth. You go and knock the hell out of the oil. Take back the oil. We take over the oil, which we should have done in the first place.""

Really? Go back into Iraq, the country we supposedly 'liberated', and steal their oil to pay our war debt?

Isn't that what they call plunder? Wouldn't we in fact be doing just what ISIS is doing?

Trump Take Iraq s Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

It gets worse. His solution to defeating ISIS has no chance of success and his estimates of the number of troops needed are pure fantasy only the suckers who support him will believe. The stolen oil would not pay for the deployment of military forces needed to attempt his stupid idea. They certainly wouldn't pay for the new flood of killed and maimed troops his plan would create when the cost of his nit wit idea is added up. This to say nothing about the fact he would have to invade Syria where most of the ISIS controlled oil wells are.

and you were all for the Obama's complete pull out of Iraq, which lead to the islamonazi take over ..You're a genius

Yeah, cuz there were no terrorists until Obama was elected.

It wasn't Obama who made the agreement to leave Iraq and it was Reagan/Bush who gave birth to what is now ISIL.

Yeah, cuz there were no terrorists until Obama was elected.

Obama was so cool, he was gonna get the terrorists to lay down their weapons just by talking.
What happened? Does his teleprompter not speak terrorist?

Obama was stuck to a schedule and agreement Bush signed a month before he left office and turned his mess over to the new guy. There was no reason for Bush to make that agreement other than the ending of the UN Resolution that supported troops in Iraq to start with. He could not get a renewed UN Resolution and he could not get an extended SOFA so he dumped the mess on the incoming administration. Bush had all those years to finish that war. More years than it took to defeat both Germany and Japan in WWll.
Obama concentrated on going after the real terrorist who attacked us on 9/11. That was something Bush also failed to do.

Obama was incapable of getting a SOFA because he didn't want one. Bush's plan was to leave at least 10,000 troops in Iraq at the advice of the Pentagon. We now have 3,000 troops in Iraq with no SOFA. Figure that one out.

 

[Camp]

It gets worse. His solution to defeating ISIS has no chance of success and his estimates of the number of troops needed are pure fantasy only the suckers who support him will believe. The stolen oil would not pay for the deployment of military forces needed to attempt his stupid idea. They certainly wouldn't pay for the new flood of killed and maimed troops his plan would create when the cost of his nit wit idea is added up. This to say nothing about the fact he would have to invade Syria where most of the ISIS controlled oil wells are.

and you were all for the Obama's complete pull out of Iraq, which lead to the islamonazi take over ..You're a genius

Yeah, cuz there were no terrorists until Obama was elected.

It wasn't Obama who made the agreement to leave Iraq and it was Reagan/Bush who gave birth to what is now ISIL.

Yeah, cuz there were no terrorists until Obama was elected.

Obama was so cool, he was gonna get the terrorists to lay down their weapons just by talking.
What happened? Does his teleprompter not speak terrorist?

Obama was stuck to a schedule and agreement Bush signed a month before he left office and turned his mess over to the new guy. There was no reason for Bush to make that agreement other than the ending of the UN Resolution that supported troops in Iraq to start with. He could not get a renewed UN Resolution and he could not get an extended SOFA so he dumped the mess on the incoming administration. Bush had all those years to finish that war. More years than it took to defeat both Germany and Japan in WWll.
Obama concentrated on going after the real terrorist who attacked us on 9/11. That was something Bush also failed to do.

Obama was incapable of getting a SOFA because he didn't want one. Bush's plan was to leave at least 10,000 troops in Iraq at the advice of the Pentagon. We now have 3,000 troops in Iraq with no SOFA. Figure that one out.

No one could have gotten a SOFA. It would have been suicide, literally, for any Shiites in the government to allow a SOFA agreement. The Shiite militia's or Iran would have suicide bombed any official who allowed or voted for a SOFA agreement.
You are worried about nothing in regards to troops in Iraq not being protected by a SOFA. Iraq agreed to give them the same status as the Marines assigned to the Embassy. All troops are covered under an agreement of diplomatic immunity. Better than any SOFA.
BTW, there are over 15,000 troops in our Kuwait bases only an hours flight by helicopter assault from the International Zone. The armored combat units can be in Bagdhad in a days drive.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It gets worse. His solution to defeating ISIS has no chance of success and his estimates of the number of troops needed are pure fantasy only the suckers who support him will believe. The stolen oil would not pay for the deployment of military forces needed to attempt his stupid idea. They certainly wouldn't pay for the new flood of killed and maimed troops his plan would create when the cost of his nit wit idea is added up. This to say nothing about the fact he would have to invade Syria where most of the ISIS controlled oil wells are.

and you were all for the Obama's complete pull out of Iraq, which lead to the islamonazi take over ..You're a genius

Yeah, cuz there were no terrorists until Obama was elected.

It wasn't Obama who made the agreement to leave Iraq and it was Reagan/Bush who gave birth to what is now ISIL.

Yeah, cuz there were no terrorists until Obama was elected.

Obama was so cool, he was gonna get the terrorists to lay down their weapons just by talking.
What happened? Does his teleprompter not speak terrorist?

Obama was stuck to a schedule and agreement Bush signed a month before he left office and turned his mess over to the new guy. There was no reason for Bush to make that agreement other than the ending of the UN Resolution that supported troops in Iraq to start with. He could not get a renewed UN Resolution and he could not get an extended SOFA so he dumped the mess on the incoming administration. Bush had all those years to finish that war. More years than it took to defeat both Germany and Japan in WWll.
Obama concentrated on going after the real terrorist who attacked us on 9/11. That was something Bush also failed to do.

Obama was incapable of getting a SOFA because he didn't want one. Bush's plan was to leave at least 10,000 troops in Iraq at the advice of the Pentagon. We now have 3,000 troops in Iraq with no SOFA. Figure that one out.

More lies.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The loudest critics of Obama if he somehow kept thousands of troops in Iraq would have been every RWnut in this thread.

 

[SillyWabbit]

Have any former Generals come out and said Trump's idea is workable or has a chance of success? Maybe a Colonel? Perhaps a Major? How about a plain person who slept in a Holiday Inn?

Did you hear Trump Sunday explaining who he consults for military advice?

[Chuck] Todd also asked Trump who he turns to for military advice.

"Well, I watch the shows," Trump responded. "I really see a lot of great -- when you watch your show and all of the other shows and you have the generals and you have certain people that you like --"

Trump Take Iraq s Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

TV. So, what's your point?

 

[SillyWabbit]

Are we certain Trump doesn't see this whole "running for President" thing as big SNL skit?
If he wins, won't we all just laugh and laugh.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Have any former Generals come out and said Trump's idea is workable or has a chance of success? Maybe a Colonel? Perhaps a Major? How about a plain person who slept in a Holiday Inn?

Did you hear Trump Sunday explaining who he consults for military advice?

[Chuck] Todd also asked Trump who he turns to for military advice.

"Well, I watch the shows," Trump responded. "I really see a lot of great -- when you watch your show and all of the other shows and you have the generals and you have certain people that you like --"

Trump Take Iraq s Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

TV. So, what's your point?

Obvious.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump: Take Iraq's Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

"Donald Trump says he would defeat ISIS by taking over the oil fields the terrorists have seized in Iraq.

"We should definitely take back money for our soldiers," he told NBC's "Meet the Press" with Chuck Todd on Sunday."

" And ISIS is taking over a lot of the oil in certain areas of Iraq. And I said, you take away their wealth. You go and knock the hell out of the oil. Take back the oil. We take over the oil, which we should have done in the first place.""

Really? Go back into Iraq, the country we supposedly 'liberated', and steal their oil to pay our war debt?

Isn't that what they call plunder? Wouldn't we in fact be doing just what ISIS is doing?

Trump Take Iraq s Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

How is it "their oil?" Are they pumping it out of the ground and selling it? Why is that?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Have any former Generals come out and said Trump's idea is workable or has a chance of success? Maybe a Colonel? Perhaps a Major? How about a plain person who slept in a Holiday Inn?

Did you hear Trump Sunday explaining who he consults for military advice?

[Chuck] Todd also asked Trump who he turns to for military advice.

"Well, I watch the shows," Trump responded. "I really see a lot of great -- when you watch your show and all of the other shows and you have the generals and you have certain people that you like --"

Trump Take Iraq s Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

TV. So, what's your point?

TV. So, what's your point?

That seems to be where Obama gets a lot of his information.

 

[SillyWabbit]

Have any former Generals come out and said Trump's idea is workable or has a chance of success? Maybe a Colonel? Perhaps a Major? How about a plain person who slept in a Holiday Inn?

Did you hear Trump Sunday explaining who he consults for military advice?

[Chuck] Todd also asked Trump who he turns to for military advice.

"Well, I watch the shows," Trump responded. "I really see a lot of great -- when you watch your show and all of the other shows and you have the generals and you have certain people that you like --"

Trump Take Iraq s Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

TV. So, what's your point?

Obvious.

TV is God.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump: Take Iraq's Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

"Donald Trump says he would defeat ISIS by taking over the oil fields the terrorists have seized in Iraq.

"We should definitely take back money for our soldiers," he told NBC's "Meet the Press" with Chuck Todd on Sunday."

" And ISIS is taking over a lot of the oil in certain areas of Iraq. And I said, you take away their wealth. You go and knock the hell out of the oil. Take back the oil. We take over the oil, which we should have done in the first place.""

Really? Go back into Iraq, the country we supposedly 'liberated', and steal their oil to pay our war debt?

Isn't that what they call plunder? Wouldn't we in fact be doing just what ISIS is doing?

Trump Take Iraq s Oil Wealth and Give It to Wounded Warriors

A better plan would be to invade Saudi Arabia and take their oil. Osama was a Saudi, almost all the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi, they're are the ones sponsoring ISIS and al quada....

Ih he would propose that I'd support him

I leave it to you to say the most stupid thing imaginable and call it a "better plan."

What's better about it? Is Saudi Arabia murdering thousands of innocent people on a daily basis? Is it turning young girls into sex slaves?

I'll bet you don't dare to utter your moronic ideas anywhere people know who you are.

 

[CowboyTed]

Lets help Trump out....

ISIS has 30,000 trops
Other Middle East country has 3.5 million troops...

Stay at home and watch it on TV.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

It gets worse. His solution to defeating ISIS has no chance of success and his estimates of the number of troops needed are pure fantasy only the suckers who support him will believe. The stolen oil would not pay for the deployment of military forces needed to attempt his stupid idea. They certainly wouldn't pay for the new flood of killed and maimed troops his plan would create when the cost of his nit wit idea is added up. This to say nothing about the fact he would have to invade Syria where most of the ISIS controlled oil wells are.

and you were all for the Obama's complete pull out of Iraq, which lead to the islamonazi take over ..You're a genius

Yeah, cuz there were no terrorists until Obama was elected.

It wasn't Obama who made the agreement to leave Iraq and it was Reagan/Bush who gave birth to what is now ISIL.

Yeah, cuz there were no terrorists until Obama was elected.

Obama was so cool, he was gonna get the terrorists to lay down their weapons just by talking.
What happened? Does his teleprompter not speak terrorist?

Obama was stuck to a schedule and agreement Bush signed a month before he left office and turned his mess over to the new guy. There was no reason for Bush to make that agreement other than the ending of the UN Resolution that supported troops in Iraq to start with. He could not get a renewed UN Resolution and he could not get an extended SOFA so he dumped the mess on the incoming administration. Bush had all those years to finish that war. More years than it took to defeat both Germany and Japan in WWll.
Obama concentrated on going after the real terrorist who attacked us on 9/11. That was something Bush also failed to do.

Obama was incapable of getting a SOFA because he didn't want one. Bush's plan was to leave at least 10,000 troops in Iraq at the advice of the Pentagon. We now have 3,000 troops in Iraq with no SOFA. Figure that one out.

You are in gross error!

You can find a PDF copy of the Bush and Company 2008 SOFA here: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122074.pdf

In that document on page 20 under Article 24, "Withdrawal of the United States Forces from Iraq" one can clearly read at #1. "All the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory no later than December 31, 2011." [Emphasis Added]

Obama attempted to alter that agreement in the fall of 2011 with another SOFA, but the Iraqi's refused to grant the customary immunity from tribal Sharia and Iraqi Law to US Forces in October 2011. So all US forces, save those left in the sovereign Green Zone, departed, with the last leaving on Dec 16, 2011!

Bush wasn't going to leave 10,000 troops behind as you claim. The forces left there are on sovereign soil within the embassy complex and Obama attempted to secure a SOFA to protect US troops from trumped up Iraqi charges, here and there, while they kept the lid on Bush's failed pogrom of "Nation Building" and the still smoldering civil war it spawned, but the Iraqi's didn't want us there so we left 15 days before the Bush 2008 SOFA expired! Your distortions and misrepresentations notwithstanding!

 

[TooTall]

and you were all for the Obama's complete pull out of Iraq, which lead to the islamonazi take over ..You're a genius

Yeah, cuz there were no terrorists until Obama was elected.

It wasn't Obama who made the agreement to leave Iraq and it was Reagan/Bush who gave birth to what is now ISIL.

Yeah, cuz there were no terrorists until Obama was elected.

Obama was so cool, he was gonna get the terrorists to lay down their weapons just by talking.
What happened? Does his teleprompter not speak terrorist?

Obama was stuck to a schedule and agreement Bush signed a month before he left office and turned his mess over to the new guy. There was no reason for Bush to make that agreement other than the ending of the UN Resolution that supported troops in Iraq to start with. He could not get a renewed UN Resolution and he could not get an extended SOFA so he dumped the mess on the incoming administration. Bush had all those years to finish that war. More years than it took to defeat both Germany and Japan in WWll.
Obama concentrated on going after the real terrorist who attacked us on 9/11. That was something Bush also failed to do.

Obama was incapable of getting a SOFA because he didn't want one. Bush's plan was to leave at least 10,000 troops in Iraq at the advice of the Pentagon. We now have 3,000 troops in Iraq with no SOFA. Figure that one out.

You are in gross error!

You can find a PDF copy of the Bush and Company 2008 SOFA here: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122074.pdf

In that document on page 20 under Article 24, "Withdrawal of the United States Forces from Iraq" one can clearly read at #1. "All the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory no later than December 31, 2011." [Emphasis Added]

Obama attempted to alter that agreement in the fall of 2011 with another SOFA, but the Iraqi's refused to grant the customary immunity from tribal Sharia and Iraqi Law to US Forces in October 2011. So all US forces, save those left in the sovereign Green Zone, departed, with the last leaving on Dec 16, 2011!

Bush wasn't going to leave 10,000 troops behind as you claim. The forces left there are on sovereign soil within the embassy complex and Obama attempted to secure a SOFA to protect US troops from trumped up Iraqi charges, here and there, while they kept the lid on Bush's failed pogrom of "Nation Building" and the still smoldering civil war it spawned, but the Iraqi's didn't want us there so we left 15 days before the Bush 2008 SOFA expired! Your distortions and misrepresentations notwithstanding!

"When Obama took office in January 2009, he inherited a plan that President George W. Bush forged in 2008 with then-Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. That Status of Forces Agreement called for the withdrawal of all American troops by the end of 2011.

It was widely assumed a new plan would be negotiated after the 2008 version expired in 2011. There were no stipulations about a specific number of American military personnel to be left behind.

When it came time to renegotiate a new agreement, there was little consensus on whether a residual force should stay in the country. Military leaders in Baghdad and the Pentagon pushed for as many as 24,000, but the White House rejected that amount.

Obama reportedly did consider leaving up to 10,000 troops in strategic locations after the exit, but that plan faced opposition both in the United States and in Iraq. Obama ruled out a force that size during an August 2011 conference call.

Remember that the country was considered relatively stable in 2011; ISIS elements existed prior to that, but largely formed into the force it is today after American troops left -- and mostly in Syria at first.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Isn't that what they call plunder? Wouldn't we in fact be doing just what ISIS is doing?

It's just what GWB did, Trump is advocating for another illegal war in Iraq.