Trump's Project 2025, the Republican plan to govern America, laid bare!

[sealybobo]

There are circumstances--they are extremely rare but they do exist--when abortion is the moral and/or necessary choice after six weeks. However that developing human being in the womb does not magically change from non human to human at six weeks. None of us make it into the world without going through all the stages of gestation.

A moral society may decide that an arbitrary six weeks is the number or the more common 13 weeks or that it should be left up to the woman and doctor as to whether an abortion is necessary or there should be no law at all. But a moral and just society can have that debate.

There is just no constitutional authority given the federal government to decide it.

Even in Kansas. Do you realize Trump beat Hillary 56% to 35% in Kansas and even they want abortion to remain legal?

 

[Foxfyre]

It would have been great if we had an honest debate in 2016 about this. Instead, Republicans lied and in 2022 the Supreme Court overturned Roe v Wade and the country shit it's collective pants.

Even in RED states like Kansas

Voters in Kansas decide to keep abortion legal in the state, rejecting an amendment​

Voters in Kansas rejected a proposed state constitutional amendment Tuesday that would have said there was no right to an abortion in the state, according to The Associated Press.

NEVER vote GOP on a state or federal level.

And I say whether or not the GOP gets any particular issue wrong, anybody who does NOT vote straight GOP in November will be voting for totalitarian control of everything, including abortion, and you or I will no longer have any opportunity to debate an issue either here or anywhere else as it will be illegal to question or challenge the state.

 

[sealybobo]

And I say whether or not the GOP gets any particular issue wrong, anybody who does NOT vote straight GOP in November will be voting for totalitarian control of everything, including abortion, and you or I will no longer have any opportunity to debate an issue either here or anywhere else as it will be illegal to question or challenge the state.

Excuse me? If we don't vote straight GOP then we are voting for totalitarian control? Please explain.

 

[Independent thinker]

Trump supports Heritage Foundation and their policies

He may not campaign on them but once elected, Heritage Foundation people man his administration

Both sides support causes which they don't agree with 100%. It is dishonest for you to claim it is a 100% endorsement of everything.

 

[Foxfyre]

Even in Kansas. Do you realize Trump beat Hillary 56% to 35% in Kansas and even they want abortion to remain legal?

And that is exactly why SCOTUS was right to recognize that Roe v Wade was unconstitutional and that the matter should be left to the various states. Some will get it right. Some will get it wrong. Some will hit a happy median in there somewhere but at least those that get it wrong won't screw up everybody else.

 

[marvin martian]

Well, you're a liar. All the Trump/Bush Judges appointed are Heritage Foundation. They have all pledged to one day pass a federal law making abortion illegal.

You can't read this right off their page and say they don't want to pass a law making abortion a crime. You'd be a liar. And Trump even admitted, women who got abortions would have to be punished.

All children conceived deserve to be born to married mothers and fathers who will love, guide, and protect them throughout their lives, but family breakdown and rampant abortion have torn apart the soul of our country and sapped it of its strength and moral authority. Radical ideologies that deny social and biological truths about sexual embodiment, marriage, and unborn life have poisoned our courts, our culture, and our laws. The Heritage enterprise will mobilize and advance policies at the state and federal levels to restore the nuclear family to the center of American life and reduce both the demand for and availability of abortion at all stages of human development.

Radical ideologies that deny social and biological truths about sexual embodiment, marriage, and unborn life have poisoned our courts, our culture, and our laws.

We will defend the court victory by advancing pro-life legislation in the states and at the federal level and blocking the Democrats’ efforts to enshrine abortion on demand in federal law.

The Heritage enterprise will protect unborn life.

We will advance the Heartbeat Protection Act to prohibit abortion nationwide after the moment a heartbeat can be detected. At the state level, we will work with governors, legislators, and other state-based allies to pass heartbeat laws (or better) on abortion.

We will work to pass legislation in the House to enshrine the conscience protections of the Weldon Amendment permanently in law.

Heritage will promote pro-family welfare reforms that support work and marriage by introducing a comprehensive Heritage family policy proposal with significant and detailed recommendations that lawmakers can use to guide reform efforts.

Heritage provides the knowledge resources to equip lawmakers, activists, and communities with the information they need to protect unborn life and family formation.

STOP LYING FOR THE LORD!!!

That didn't happen. Abortion was returned to the states, where it belongs.

 

[hadit]

So............That's why Trump doesn't have any policy issues?
Besides "Drill baby drill"?
It's already written for the orange retard.

Boy, I'm glad we don't have any of those around, they sound scary.

 

[hadit]

Tech and education​

Under the proposals, pornography would be banned, and tech and telecoms companies that allow access would be shut down.
The document calls for school choice and parental control over schools, and takes aim at what it calls "woke propaganda".
It proposes to eliminate a long list of terms from all laws and federal regulations, including "sexual orientation", "gender equality", "abortion" and "reproductive rights".
Project 2025 aims to end diversity, equity and inclusion programs in schools and government departments as part of what it describes as a wider crackdown on "woke" ideology.

Aren't you glad TRUMP! isn't on board with it? You should be voting for him.

 

[sealybobo]

And that is exactly why SCOTUS was right to recognize that Roe v Wade was unconstitutional and that the matter should be left to the various states. Some will get it right. Some will get it wrong. Some will hit a happy median in there somewhere but at least those that get it wrong won't screw up everybody else.

Next they'll say MURDER is unconstitutional PERIOD. And abortion is murder.

See, in America, we don't let the American Taliban (Christians) legislate what goes on in our doctors office. In BLUE states, we trust women. We don't think 1/3 of all women in America are sluts and murderers.

I'm glad I'm not in a red state where they're trying desperately to get it wrong.

 

[sealybobo]

Tech and education​

Under the proposals, pornography would be banned, and tech and telecoms companies that allow access would be shut down.
The document calls for school choice and parental control over schools, and takes aim at what it calls "woke propaganda".
It proposes to eliminate a long list of terms from all laws and federal regulations, including "sexual orientation", "gender equality", "abortion" and "reproductive rights".
Project 2025 aims to end diversity, equity and inclusion programs in schools and government departments as part of what it describes as a wider crackdown on "woke" ideology.

Did you watch Mark Cuban on the Daily Show? He was saying Trump is basically in cohoots with Silicon Valley. He will do their bidding. America will be run by Trump, a king or CEO, and he will do what Silicon Valley wants. It's a corporate take over of America.

And stupid middle class Republicans will say GREAT! He wants to run the country like a business. Hopefully not like he runs one of his own business'. Bankrupsies, hiring illegals, not paying vendors, not paying taxes, etc.

 

[sealybobo]

Aren't you glad TRUMP! isn't on board with it? You should be voting for him.

Oh he's on board.

Entrepreneur Mark Cuban (
@mcuban
) joins Jon Stewart to discuss the Silicon Valley’s support of Donald Trump, Elon Musk's handle on the global discourse

Seems like Republicans want the rich to rule us.

 

[hadit]

Oh he's on board.

Entrepreneur Mark Cuban (
@mcuban
) joins Jon Stewart to discuss the Silicon Valley’s support of Donald Trump, Elon Musk's handle on the global discourse

Seems like Republicans want the rich to rule us.

Oh, because Cuban says so to Jon Stewart? Then it must be true.

 

[Foxfyre]

Next they'll say MURDER is unconstitutional PERIOD. And abortion is murder.

See, in America, we don't let the American Taliban (Christians) legislate what goes on in our doctors office. In BLUE states, we trust women. We don't think 1/3 of all women in America are sluts and murderers.

I'm glad I'm not in a red state where they're trying desperately to get it wrong.

You don't know what they'll say next any more than I do, but surely you could come up with a more reasoned illustration than that. And you obviously missed the point.

But back to the thread topic of Project 2025: All human endeavor is subject to trial and error, right and wrong, success and mistakes, good thinking and wrong thinking because all humans are imperfect beings that are a work in progress. Yes there are aspects of Project 2025 that should be carefully considered, honestly debated, evaluated for short and long term consequences.

But is it a fascist document intended to seize control over everything? Absolutely not and only the most ignorant and/or dishonest would characterize it that way.

 

[peacefan]

What is Project 2025? Wish list for a Trump presidency, explained

A think-tank with ties to Trump has set out a vision for another term in office. The former president denies any links.

www.bbc.com

Trump's Project 2025 is a fascinating document. I will speculate that never in the history of our country has a political party published a complete, thorough playbook of their vision to seize and control our government. I will not say that I've read the complete tome, but I have read the preamble and enough of it's policy statements and methods to realize it's sinister motives. Trump denies any involvement, but you would have to have been on Mars for the last 9 years to believe that.

It reminds one of Hitler's missive, "Mein Kampf," though Project 2025 is much more comprehensive and detailed with its goals.

From foreign relations to the economy, education, government employees, abortion, the general welfare, regulations and much more, if this thing takes effect, we are doomed as a nation.

Along with Trump's stated plan on day one, his re institution of Schedule F, eliminating government civil service workers and replacing them with political appointees, his election to the presidency will doom the nation to a monarchy. His next project will probably be to amend the Constitution to cement his position as leader for the rest of his life.

He has already told his Christian cult members that they won't have to vote again after 2024. Do you think he was just whistling Dixie when he said that? If so, think again.

what a thinktank produces does NOT always become government policy.
the warnings about this particular document will not go unheeded.

 

[sealybobo]

Oh, because Cuban says so to Jon Stewart? Then it must be true. Until he says it, you don't have much to go on.

You're stupid.

Silicon Valley’s Trump love affair shows it can’t and won’t regulate itself

Silicon Valley has promised more responsible innovation. But support for Trump shows companies don’t want the burden of responsibility.

reporter.anu.edu.au

 

[rightwinger]

Aren't you glad TRUMP! isn't on board with it? You should be voting for him.

Trump isn’t on board with this?

It proposes to eliminate a long list of terms from all laws and federal regulations, including "sexual orientation", "gender equality", "abortion" and "reproductive rights".
Project 2025 aims to end diversity, equity and inclusion programs in schools and government departments as part of what it describes as a wider crackdown on "woke" ideology.

I can see where Trump would not agree to banning porn because his wife is an ex-Porn Star

 

[hadit]

You're stupid.

Silicon Valley’s Trump love affair shows it can’t and won’t regulate itself

Silicon Valley has promised more responsible innovation. But support for Trump shows companies don’t want the burden of responsibility.

reporter.anu.edu.au

How does that show that TRUMP! is on board with Project 2025?

 

[hadit]

Trump isn’t on board with this?

It proposes to eliminate a long list of terms from all laws and federal regulations, including "sexual orientation", "gender equality", "abortion" and "reproductive rights".
Project 2025 aims to end diversity, equity and inclusion programs in schools and government departments as part of what it describes as a wider crackdown on "woke" ideology.

He says he's not. Of course, you would know better what he's thinking...

 

[rightwinger]

He says he's not. Of course, you would know better what he's thinking...

Trump has said those same things about “woke” terminology

Of course he supports internet porn given his wife’s history

 

[Billo_Really]

I'm already voting for Trump. You don't need to convince me



That's the stupidest thing ever posted on the internet.

Nice try!