you really believe that the ruskie draftees are on the verge of MUTINY?
Where did I say that, troll?
YOU IMPLIED
So you have nothing. Okay.
I have LOTS
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you really believe that the ruskie draftees are on the verge of MUTINY?
Where did I say that, troll?
YOU IMPLIED
So you have nothing. Okay.
(COMMENT)
Phoenall, et al,
If I was the Russians, I would:
• Recall all diplomatic personnel from Turkey; and after the recovery begin to:
• Reverse the decision to cancel a gas pipeline to Bulgaria. (Considered an important victory for Ankara).
• Disrupt the opportunities for Turkish food makers are seeing for boosting their exports.
• To the extent possible, cut all communications conduits between and through Russia.
• Block all travel, to and from, Turkey and Russia.
• Forfeit and terminate all aspects of the agreement to build a nuclear power plant on the Mediterranean coast ($20B).
• Exploit Turkey’s dependence on Russian energy.
• Begin to openly fund and provide advanced assistance and safe haven to PPK (Kurdish rebels) elements within Russia and Syria.
• Move as many ADA units and Air Surveillance Assets to the Turkish-Russian Border with Russian air cover.
• Begin the deployment of Cruise Missile assets with targeting emphasis in the Turkish AF facilities.
(COMMENT)
The Russians should be concentrating economic and military plans that inflict the greatest harm on Turkey. The Russians should run every military exercise right on the Turkish Border. Every aircraft that takes-off in Turkey should hear Russian Target Acquisition RADAR sweep them.
Most Respectfully,
R
(COMMENT)I despise Turkey, but I don't see Putin gaining anything from all that, as it would only exacerbate the problem of propping up Syria; Turkey has been fairly neutral re keeping out of attacking Syria directly, and such act would be a game changer and open up a can of worms for Putin that he can't handle at the moment. Russia isn't in any position to escalate the situation. militarily.
Picaro, et al,
I don't think that the Russian Federation has anything to gain by allowing the Republic of Turkey (RoT) to attack a SU-24 Fighter-Bomber on a counterterrorism mission against a regional threat.
(COMMENT)I despise Turkey, but I don't see Putin gaining anything from all that, as it would only exacerbate the problem of propping up Syria; Turkey has been fairly neutral re keeping out of attacking Syria directly, and such act would be a game changer and open up a can of worms for Putin that he can't handle at the moment. Russia isn't in any position to escalate the situation. militarily.
It appears that the RoT (intimidated and coerced, afraid of DAESH or a radicalized Islamic response) would rather hinder than assist anti-DAESH Forces. That is very suspect and potential dangerous to the region. If RoT is so afraid of DAESH that it would intercept allied aircraft on a mission, then we need to channel terrorist forces towards them; as the RoT serves no useful purpose as an ally against such a force.
You have to ask yourself why our nation, the Russian Federation, or any country would be interested in neutralizing the threat posed by DAESH in a far-off land. If you have no reasonable answer, then of course you are correct. Pinning down the RoT would only "exacerbate the problem." But if there is a legitimate reason for worrying about the establishment of a pseudo-government creating sanctuaries for the growth of radicalize Islam which threats to change the basic western freedoms; then we need to focus their attention on a threat they do recognize.
If DAESH continues to accumulate victories and seize territory in the region, the strength grow. It will become a Mecca for every wannabe insurgent, jihadists and asymmetric fighter; mistakenly believing their cause is just and a religious certainty.
Most Respectfully,
R
Must be a Turkey shoot.....
Not really........They say they found a dead pilot. A person dead due to politics....the good news is that the pilots bailed
People die all the time. Cry me a river
-Geaux
Yeah, and US presidents send people to their deaths all the time, HOOOORAAAAHHH!! Time to celebrate hey? We're makers of deaths. And pro-lifers at the same time.....
Boots on the ground is the only answer.
-Geaux
They say they found a dead pilot. A person dead due to politics....the good news is that the pilots bailed
People die all the time. Cry me a river
-Geaux
Yeah, and US presidents send people to their deaths all the time, HOOOORAAAAHHH!! Time to celebrate hey? We're makers of deaths. And pro-lifers at the same time.....
Boots on the ground is the only answer.
-Geaux
The US is fighting ISIS
The US is supporting anti-Assad rebels.
Assad is fighting ISIS
Assad is fighting anti-Assad rebels
Russia is fighting ISIS
Russia is fighting anti-Assad rebels
Turkey is fighting ISIS
Turkey is fighting the PKK
The PKK is fighting Turkey
The PKK is fighting ISIS
ISIS is fighting everyone
Not only that you have:
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Assad
Jund al-Aqsa fighting ISIS
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Hazzm
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Assad
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Hazzm
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting ISIS
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting al Nursa front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Yamourk Martyrs Brigade
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Jund al-Aqsa
al-Nusra Front is fighting Assad
al-Nusra Front is fighting Russia
al-Nusra Front is fighting Lebanon
al-Nusra Front is fighting Rojava
al-Nusra Front is fighting Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Dawn of Freedom Brigades
al-Nusra Front is fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hazzm
al-Nusra Front is fighting Southern Front of the Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hezbolla
al-Nusra Front is fighting Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq
al-Nusra Front is fighting Al-Abbsa Brigade
al-Nusra Front is fighting ISIS
You get the point, there are millions of different individual conflicts going on, and Russia/Turkey is just another to add to the pie.
This is all good; the animals are focused on butchering each other for a change, and that is a plus. The shame is the West not doing enough to aid the really oppressed in those countries and instead are pandering to Muslims, i.e. just backasswards policy, on top of arming Iran with nukes. Pure idiocy.
All dictators eventually collapse; keeping the collateral damage from spreading is sane policy. The real issue for Americans is how much more will Obama screw up as a lame duck with a year or so left to work on enthusiastically spreading the violence and death to Europe and the U.S. We know Hillary and Lurch are completely incompetent re foreign policy and dealing with reality, so no sanity apparent in that direction.
Those self interests may include the "repressed".The US is fighting ISIS
The US is supporting anti-Assad rebels.
Assad is fighting ISIS
Assad is fighting anti-Assad rebels
Russia is fighting ISIS
Russia is fighting anti-Assad rebels
Turkey is fighting ISIS
Turkey is fighting the PKK
The PKK is fighting Turkey
The PKK is fighting ISIS
ISIS is fighting everyone
Not only that you have:
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Assad
Jund al-Aqsa fighting ISIS
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Hazzm
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Assad
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Hazzm
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting ISIS
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting al Nursa front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Yamourk Martyrs Brigade
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Jund al-Aqsa
al-Nusra Front is fighting Assad
al-Nusra Front is fighting Russia
al-Nusra Front is fighting Lebanon
al-Nusra Front is fighting Rojava
al-Nusra Front is fighting Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Dawn of Freedom Brigades
al-Nusra Front is fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hazzm
al-Nusra Front is fighting Southern Front of the Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hezbolla
al-Nusra Front is fighting Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq
al-Nusra Front is fighting Al-Abbsa Brigade
al-Nusra Front is fighting ISIS
You get the point, there are millions of different individual conflicts going on, and Russia/Turkey is just another to add to the pie.
This is all good; the animals are focused on butchering each other for a change, and that is a plus. The shame is the West not doing enough to aid the really oppressed in those countries and instead are pandering to Muslims, i.e. just backasswards policy, on top of arming Iran with nukes. Pure idiocy.
All dictators eventually collapse; keeping the collateral damage from spreading is sane policy. The real issue for Americans is how much more will Obama screw up as a lame duck with a year or so left to work on enthusiastically spreading the violence and death to Europe and the U.S. We know Hillary and Lurch are completely incompetent re foreign policy and dealing with reality, so no sanity apparent in that direction.
The US doesn't give a damn about the repressed. It only cares about its own self interest.
Those self interests may include the "repressed".The US is fighting ISIS
The US is supporting anti-Assad rebels.
Assad is fighting ISIS
Assad is fighting anti-Assad rebels
Russia is fighting ISIS
Russia is fighting anti-Assad rebels
Turkey is fighting ISIS
Turkey is fighting the PKK
The PKK is fighting Turkey
The PKK is fighting ISIS
ISIS is fighting everyone
Not only that you have:
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Assad
Jund al-Aqsa fighting ISIS
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Hazzm
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Assad
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Hazzm
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting ISIS
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting al Nursa front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Yamourk Martyrs Brigade
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Jund al-Aqsa
al-Nusra Front is fighting Assad
al-Nusra Front is fighting Russia
al-Nusra Front is fighting Lebanon
al-Nusra Front is fighting Rojava
al-Nusra Front is fighting Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Dawn of Freedom Brigades
al-Nusra Front is fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hazzm
al-Nusra Front is fighting Southern Front of the Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hezbolla
al-Nusra Front is fighting Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq
al-Nusra Front is fighting Al-Abbsa Brigade
al-Nusra Front is fighting ISIS
You get the point, there are millions of different individual conflicts going on, and Russia/Turkey is just another to add to the pie.
This is all good; the animals are focused on butchering each other for a change, and that is a plus. The shame is the West not doing enough to aid the really oppressed in those countries and instead are pandering to Muslims, i.e. just backasswards policy, on top of arming Iran with nukes. Pure idiocy.
All dictators eventually collapse; keeping the collateral damage from spreading is sane policy. The real issue for Americans is how much more will Obama screw up as a lame duck with a year or so left to work on enthusiastically spreading the violence and death to Europe and the U.S. We know Hillary and Lurch are completely incompetent re foreign policy and dealing with reality, so no sanity apparent in that direction.
The US doesn't give a damn about the repressed. It only cares about its own self interest.
Give it a rest there is just so much material and resources to go around. Are you doing anything about these "repressed" folks?Those self interests may include the "repressed".The US is fighting ISIS
The US is supporting anti-Assad rebels.
Assad is fighting ISIS
Assad is fighting anti-Assad rebels
Russia is fighting ISIS
Russia is fighting anti-Assad rebels
Turkey is fighting ISIS
Turkey is fighting the PKK
The PKK is fighting Turkey
The PKK is fighting ISIS
ISIS is fighting everyone
Not only that you have:
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Assad
Jund al-Aqsa fighting ISIS
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Hazzm
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Assad
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Hazzm
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting ISIS
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting al Nursa front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Yamourk Martyrs Brigade
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Jund al-Aqsa
al-Nusra Front is fighting Assad
al-Nusra Front is fighting Russia
al-Nusra Front is fighting Lebanon
al-Nusra Front is fighting Rojava
al-Nusra Front is fighting Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Dawn of Freedom Brigades
al-Nusra Front is fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hazzm
al-Nusra Front is fighting Southern Front of the Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hezbolla
al-Nusra Front is fighting Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq
al-Nusra Front is fighting Al-Abbsa Brigade
al-Nusra Front is fighting ISIS
You get the point, there are millions of different individual conflicts going on, and Russia/Turkey is just another to add to the pie.
This is all good; the animals are focused on butchering each other for a change, and that is a plus. The shame is the West not doing enough to aid the really oppressed in those countries and instead are pandering to Muslims, i.e. just backasswards policy, on top of arming Iran with nukes. Pure idiocy.
All dictators eventually collapse; keeping the collateral damage from spreading is sane policy. The real issue for Americans is how much more will Obama screw up as a lame duck with a year or so left to work on enthusiastically spreading the violence and death to Europe and the U.S. We know Hillary and Lurch are completely incompetent re foreign policy and dealing with reality, so no sanity apparent in that direction.
The US doesn't give a damn about the repressed. It only cares about its own self interest.
May include, but don't.
There are many repressed people in the world. The US went to war against Germany to help repressed people. Oh, but black people couldn't fight alongside white people. Er......
What about the repressed people of Rwanda, Burundi, Myanmar, DRC, Zimbabwe? Why does the US do nothing?
Those self interests may include the "repressed".The US is fighting ISIS
The US is supporting anti-Assad rebels.
Assad is fighting ISIS
Assad is fighting anti-Assad rebels
Russia is fighting ISIS
Russia is fighting anti-Assad rebels
Turkey is fighting ISIS
Turkey is fighting the PKK
The PKK is fighting Turkey
The PKK is fighting ISIS
ISIS is fighting everyone
Not only that you have:
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Assad
Jund al-Aqsa fighting ISIS
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Hazzm
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Assad
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Hazzm
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting ISIS
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting al Nursa front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Yamourk Martyrs Brigade
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Jund al-Aqsa
al-Nusra Front is fighting Assad
al-Nusra Front is fighting Russia
al-Nusra Front is fighting Lebanon
al-Nusra Front is fighting Rojava
al-Nusra Front is fighting Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Dawn of Freedom Brigades
al-Nusra Front is fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hazzm
al-Nusra Front is fighting Southern Front of the Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hezbolla
al-Nusra Front is fighting Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq
al-Nusra Front is fighting Al-Abbsa Brigade
al-Nusra Front is fighting ISIS
You get the point, there are millions of different individual conflicts going on, and Russia/Turkey is just another to add to the pie.
This is all good; the animals are focused on butchering each other for a change, and that is a plus. The shame is the West not doing enough to aid the really oppressed in those countries and instead are pandering to Muslims, i.e. just backasswards policy, on top of arming Iran with nukes. Pure idiocy.
All dictators eventually collapse; keeping the collateral damage from spreading is sane policy. The real issue for Americans is how much more will Obama screw up as a lame duck with a year or so left to work on enthusiastically spreading the violence and death to Europe and the U.S. We know Hillary and Lurch are completely incompetent re foreign policy and dealing with reality, so no sanity apparent in that direction.
The US doesn't give a damn about the repressed. It only cares about its own self interest.
May include, but don't.
There are many repressed people in the world. The US went to war against Germany to help repressed people. Oh, but black people couldn't fight alongside white people. Er......
What about the repressed people of Rwanda, Burundi, Myanmar, DRC, Zimbabwe? Why does the US do nothing?
Give it a rest there is just so much material and resources to go around. Are you doing anything about these "repressed" folks?Those self interests may include the "repressed".The US is fighting ISIS
The US is supporting anti-Assad rebels.
Assad is fighting ISIS
Assad is fighting anti-Assad rebels
Russia is fighting ISIS
Russia is fighting anti-Assad rebels
Turkey is fighting ISIS
Turkey is fighting the PKK
The PKK is fighting Turkey
The PKK is fighting ISIS
ISIS is fighting everyone
Not only that you have:
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Assad
Jund al-Aqsa fighting ISIS
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Hazzm
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Assad
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Hazzm
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting ISIS
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting al Nursa front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Yamourk Martyrs Brigade
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Jund al-Aqsa
al-Nusra Front is fighting Assad
al-Nusra Front is fighting Russia
al-Nusra Front is fighting Lebanon
al-Nusra Front is fighting Rojava
al-Nusra Front is fighting Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Dawn of Freedom Brigades
al-Nusra Front is fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hazzm
al-Nusra Front is fighting Southern Front of the Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hezbolla
al-Nusra Front is fighting Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq
al-Nusra Front is fighting Al-Abbsa Brigade
al-Nusra Front is fighting ISIS
You get the point, there are millions of different individual conflicts going on, and Russia/Turkey is just another to add to the pie.
This is all good; the animals are focused on butchering each other for a change, and that is a plus. The shame is the West not doing enough to aid the really oppressed in those countries and instead are pandering to Muslims, i.e. just backasswards policy, on top of arming Iran with nukes. Pure idiocy.
All dictators eventually collapse; keeping the collateral damage from spreading is sane policy. The real issue for Americans is how much more will Obama screw up as a lame duck with a year or so left to work on enthusiastically spreading the violence and death to Europe and the U.S. We know Hillary and Lurch are completely incompetent re foreign policy and dealing with reality, so no sanity apparent in that direction.
The US doesn't give a damn about the repressed. It only cares about its own self interest.
May include, but don't.
There are many repressed people in the world. The US went to war against Germany to help repressed people. Oh, but black people couldn't fight alongside white people. Er......
What about the repressed people of Rwanda, Burundi, Myanmar, DRC, Zimbabwe? Why does the US do nothing?
Those self interests may include the "repressed".The US is fighting ISIS
The US is supporting anti-Assad rebels.
Assad is fighting ISIS
Assad is fighting anti-Assad rebels
Russia is fighting ISIS
Russia is fighting anti-Assad rebels
Turkey is fighting ISIS
Turkey is fighting the PKK
The PKK is fighting Turkey
The PKK is fighting ISIS
ISIS is fighting everyone
Not only that you have:
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Assad
Jund al-Aqsa fighting ISIS
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Hazzm
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Assad
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Hazzm
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting ISIS
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting al Nursa front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Yamourk Martyrs Brigade
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Jund al-Aqsa
al-Nusra Front is fighting Assad
al-Nusra Front is fighting Russia
al-Nusra Front is fighting Lebanon
al-Nusra Front is fighting Rojava
al-Nusra Front is fighting Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Dawn of Freedom Brigades
al-Nusra Front is fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hazzm
al-Nusra Front is fighting Southern Front of the Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hezbolla
al-Nusra Front is fighting Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq
al-Nusra Front is fighting Al-Abbsa Brigade
al-Nusra Front is fighting ISIS
You get the point, there are millions of different individual conflicts going on, and Russia/Turkey is just another to add to the pie.
This is all good; the animals are focused on butchering each other for a change, and that is a plus. The shame is the West not doing enough to aid the really oppressed in those countries and instead are pandering to Muslims, i.e. just backasswards policy, on top of arming Iran with nukes. Pure idiocy.
All dictators eventually collapse; keeping the collateral damage from spreading is sane policy. The real issue for Americans is how much more will Obama screw up as a lame duck with a year or so left to work on enthusiastically spreading the violence and death to Europe and the U.S. We know Hillary and Lurch are completely incompetent re foreign policy and dealing with reality, so no sanity apparent in that direction.
The US doesn't give a damn about the repressed. It only cares about its own self interest.
May include, but don't.
There are many repressed people in the world. The US went to war against Germany to help repressed people. Oh, but black people couldn't fight alongside white people. Er......
What about the repressed people of Rwanda, Burundi, Myanmar, DRC, Zimbabwe? Why does the US do nothing?
A war started by a democrat we might add... But please,,,,, carry on
-Geaux
Those self interests may include the "repressed".This is all good; the animals are focused on butchering each other for a change, and that is a plus. The shame is the West not doing enough to aid the really oppressed in those countries and instead are pandering to Muslims, i.e. just backasswards policy, on top of arming Iran with nukes. Pure idiocy.
All dictators eventually collapse; keeping the collateral damage from spreading is sane policy. The real issue for Americans is how much more will Obama screw up as a lame duck with a year or so left to work on enthusiastically spreading the violence and death to Europe and the U.S. We know Hillary and Lurch are completely incompetent re foreign policy and dealing with reality, so no sanity apparent in that direction.
The US doesn't give a damn about the repressed. It only cares about its own self interest.
May include, but don't.
There are many repressed people in the world. The US went to war against Germany to help repressed people. Oh, but black people couldn't fight alongside white people. Er......
What about the repressed people of Rwanda, Burundi, Myanmar, DRC, Zimbabwe? Why does the US do nothing?
A war started by a democrat we might add... But please,,,,, carry on
-Geaux
You might add, but who cares? It's only if you're into Partisan nonsense that you'd care.
But, the carry on part, you haven't commented on the topic, you know that's against the rules right?