Two Examples of Why Trumps Wall Can Work, Be Built Quickly and Cheaply

[pwjohn]

We already did all that and still they came and the reason why is out of your control. Employers lure them up here and until they stop doing that, no fence will be tall enough to stop them.

When have we ever stopped illegal border crossing by any meaningful numbers?
And we sure as hell aren't denying them services or jobs.
So in other words your post is a complete lie.

And you're a fool for believing there's any truth to your comment.

So answer the questions.
When have we ever done any of those things?

CNN Fact Check: Illegal border crossings at lowest levels in 40 years - CNNPolitics.com

Here's some stuff that isnt ancient history....

Illegal immigrant children, non-Mexicans surge across U.S. Southwest border at record rate

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/25/u...-year-to-fight-surge-in-border-crossings.html

Senator: Record number of unaccompanied minors set to flood southern border

Yeah, so. Their numbers are still way down from years past when apprehensions were numbering in the hundreds of thousands, per month.

 

[charwin95]

How will Trump make Mexico pay for a wall? He has never told us.

Seriously?

Yes. Moderators have asked him how he would make them pay for it.

"How will you make the Mexicans pay for a wall?"

"They'll pay for a wall."

"But they said they won't pay for a wall."

"They'll pay for a wall."

"But how will you make them pay for a wall?"

"They'll pay for a wall."

He has no answer for anything.

You live under a rock?
Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico [Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options]. We will not be taken advantage of anymore.

And as he said,these are only some of the options.

That came from you. Trump never mentioned any of that.

 

[charwin95]

You forgot to mention that they ( immigrants ) are still getting through even after the wall went up.

It is in the article, lame ass. The numbers coming through have been reduced to merely hundreds, down from thousands.

If only all liberals were as stupid as you.

You should have mentioned it dumass

I cant post the entire article, dumb ass.

Remember these are refugees they don't have any tools or anything to breake those barb wires.
Mexico is a different story. They built sophisticated tunnels. If they can built tunnels. How difficult for them to make 20' ladder?

 

[charwin95]

Just apply for a visa, fly in, and stick around. Nobody will notice. You'll look just like the other 45 million brown people eating beans and rice 3X a day ???

Did you ever tried that?

 

[charwin95]

You forgot to mention that they ( immigrants ) are still getting through even after the wall went up.

It is in the article, lame ass. The numbers coming through have been reduced to merely hundreds, down from thousands.

If only all liberals were as stupid as you.

You should have mentioned it dumass

I cant post the entire article, dumb ass.

That they still get through makes you look like an idiot pimp for trump.

So cutting illegal border crossings by say eighty percent isnt a success story?
You couple strong border control with the end of all services and employment and they'll go home.

Ending all services and employment........ What made you think they will go home HWGA?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

How will Trump make Mexico pay for a wall? He has never told us.

Seriously?

Yes. Moderators have asked him how he would make them pay for it.

"How will you make the Mexicans pay for a wall?"

"They'll pay for a wall."

"But they said they won't pay for a wall."

"They'll pay for a wall."

"But how will you make them pay for a wall?"

"They'll pay for a wall."

He has no answer for anything.

You live under a rock?
Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico [Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options]. We will not be taken advantage of anymore.

And as he said,these are only some of the options.

That came from you. Trump never mentioned any of that.

Want some more?
Trump proposes ways to make Mexico pay for immigrants

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

It is in the article, lame ass. The numbers coming through have been reduced to merely hundreds, down from thousands.

If only all liberals were as stupid as you.

You should have mentioned it dumass

I cant post the entire article, dumb ass.

That they still get through makes you look like an idiot pimp for trump.

So cutting illegal border crossings by say eighty percent isnt a success story?
You couple strong border control with the end of all services and employment and they'll go home.

Ending all services and employment........ What made you think they will go home HWGA?

You cant work,see a doc,go to school,receive food stamps,get a drivers license,open a bank account....etc,etc..
You are going to go home.

 

[charwin95]

We already did all that and still they came and the reason why is out of your control. Employers lure them up here and until they stop doing that, no fence will be tall enough to stop them.

When have we ever stopped illegal border crossing by any meaningful numbers?
And we sure as hell aren't denying them services or jobs.
So in other words your post is a complete lie.

And you're a fool for believing there's any truth to your comment.

So answer the questions.
When have we ever done any of those things?

CNN Fact Check: Illegal border crossings at lowest levels in 40 years - CNNPolitics.com

Here's some stuff that isnt ancient history....

Illegal immigrant children, non-Mexicans surge across U.S. Southwest border at record rate

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/25/u...-year-to-fight-surge-in-border-crossings.html

Senator: Record number of unaccompanied minors set to flood southern border

Yes these are current. Do you why and what gave them the right to send UNACCOMPANIED minors crossing the western border? When these children crossed the border...... they don't run. They purposely want to get caught. Why is that?

 

[charwin95]

You should have mentioned it dumass

I cant post the entire article, dumb ass.

That they still get through makes you look like an idiot pimp for trump.

So cutting illegal border crossings by say eighty percent isnt a success story?
You couple strong border control with the end of all services and employment and they'll go home.

Ending all services and employment........ What made you think they will go home HWGA?

You cant work,see a doc,go to school,receive food stamps,get a drivers license,open a bank account....etc,etc..
You are going to go home.

So by deporting themselves they have a better life on the other side of the wall?
No matter what their relatives or friends will feed them and still use toilet paper. On the other side your lucky if you have a newspaper or a water.
Common HWGA I know you are smarter than this. Seriously.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

When have we ever stopped illegal border crossing by any meaningful numbers?
And we sure as hell aren't denying them services or jobs.
So in other words your post is a complete lie.

And you're a fool for believing there's any truth to your comment.

So answer the questions.
When have we ever done any of those things?

CNN Fact Check: Illegal border crossings at lowest levels in 40 years - CNNPolitics.com

Here's some stuff that isnt ancient history....

Illegal immigrant children, non-Mexicans surge across U.S. Southwest border at record rate

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/25/u...-year-to-fight-surge-in-border-crossings.html

Senator: Record number of unaccompanied minors set to flood southern border

Yes these are current. Do you why and what gave them the right to send UNACCOMPANIED minors crossing the western border? When these children crossed the border...... they don't run. They purposely want to get caught. Why is that?

You obviously didnt read the links.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I cant post the entire article, dumb ass.

That they still get through makes you look like an idiot pimp for trump.

So cutting illegal border crossings by say eighty percent isnt a success story?
You couple strong border control with the end of all services and employment and they'll go home.

Ending all services and employment........ What made you think they will go home HWGA?

You cant work,see a doc,go to school,receive food stamps,get a drivers license,open a bank account....etc,etc..
You are going to go home.

So by deporting themselves they have a better life on the other side of the wall?
No matter what their relatives or friends will feed them and still use toilet paper. On the other side your lucky if you have a newspaper or a water.
Common HWGA I know you are smarter than this. Seriously.

Surely you've been to mexico.
They can work there it's just not as lucrative and you need to ask yourself why they came here in the first place. If that goes away so do they.

 

[OldLady]

I dont think a wall will be enough.
I would suggest that the danger of tunnels would still exist.
Firstly the wall needs to be wide enough to allow a railway line to run in either direction.This would help move troops around to threatened areas quickly and efficiently.

Secondly what is needed is a moat as well. Perhaps 30m deep and 100m wide.
Lifers can be used to dig this out at no charge.
If those drug dealing rapists can tunnel under all of that then they must be the right stuff and will thrive in America.

Tunneling is easily stopped.

Then why hasn't it been ? Why was El Chappo's crew building tunnels with tracks and electricity? They need to start using that archeology equipment that senses voids under the earth. BTW, if everyone wants a wall, fine. It will be a construction project that puts a lot of people to work for a while, anyway.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I dont think a wall will be enough.
I would suggest that the danger of tunnels would still exist.
Firstly the wall needs to be wide enough to allow a railway line to run in either direction.This would help move troops around to threatened areas quickly and efficiently.

Secondly what is needed is a moat as well. Perhaps 30m deep and 100m wide.
Lifers can be used to dig this out at no charge.
If those drug dealing rapists can tunnel under all of that then they must be the right stuff and will thrive in America.

Tunneling is easily stopped.

Then why hasn't it been ? Why was El Chappo's crew building tunnels with tracks and electricity? They need to start using that archeology equipment that senses voids under the earth. BTW, if everyone wants a wall, fine. It will be a construction project that puts a lot of people to work for a while, anyway.

..we would have to actually try and stop illegal immigration for sensors to be placed along the border.

 

[OldLady]

"Trumps Wall"

That many on the right don’t understand why this is idiocy is further evidence that republicans have no business being in power.

Maybe it won't be totally effective, but it will help. What's the harm in a giant construction project that puts people to work? I think that electronic thing-y Rubio was talking about would be a good idea, too. Having people just walking across the border into our country is ridiculous. A wall will certainly cut down on that.

 

[OldLady]

It is in the article, lame ass. The numbers coming through have been reduced to merely hundreds, down from thousands.

If only all liberals were as stupid as you.

You should have mentioned it dumass

I cant post the entire article, dumb ass.

That they still get through makes you look like an idiot pimp for trump.

So cutting illegal border crossings by say eighty percent isnt a success story?
You couple strong border control with the end of all services and employment and they'll go home.

We already did all that and still they came and the reason why is out of your control. Employers lure them up here and until they stop doing that, no fence will be tall enough to stop them.

Stopping he employers will amount to a much better fence than any wall no matter the height.

Stopping the employers who hire illegals is AS important as a wall, but alone it will not stop them.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You should have mentioned it dumass

I cant post the entire article, dumb ass.

That they still get through makes you look like an idiot pimp for trump.

So cutting illegal border crossings by say eighty percent isnt a success story?
You couple strong border control with the end of all services and employment and they'll go home.

We already did all that and still they came and the reason why is out of your control. Employers lure them up here and until they stop doing that, no fence will be tall enough to stop them.

Stopping he employers will amount to a much better fence than any wall no matter the height.

Stopping the employers who hire illegals is AS important as a wall, but alone it will not stop them.

As I said earlier in this thread.

 

[CowboyTed]

I dont think a wall will be enough.
I would suggest that the danger of tunnels would still exist.
Firstly the wall needs to be wide enough to allow a railway line to run in either direction.This would help move troops around to threatened areas quickly and efficiently.

Secondly what is needed is a moat as well. Perhaps 30m deep and 100m wide.
Lifers can be used to dig this out at no charge.
If those drug dealing rapists can tunnel under all of that then they must be the right stuff and will thrive in America.

Tunneling is easily stopped.

Then why hasn't it been ? Why was El Chappo's crew building tunnels with tracks and electricity? They need to start using that archeology equipment that senses voids under the earth. BTW, if everyone wants a wall, fine. It will be a construction project that puts a lot of people to work for a while, anyway.

This is one of those stupid comments that no body understands why it is stupid...

Lets take an example of the Gaza Eygpt border with an Israeli buffer in between...

The Boarder is just 8 miles long... Isreal have a wide buffer put between....

This is big ass wall... Way bigger than trumps and only 8 miles long... With heavy patrols...

Trump wall will be a couple of thousand miles...

So lets talk about sonic equipment... It only works for about 50 ft....
Ground-penetrating radar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now that is a bit crap so gaza eygpt has loads of tunnels going in an out....

You can look at there new detection system but that works out at about $10m a mile...

 

[charwin95]

That they still get through makes you look like an idiot pimp for trump.

So cutting illegal border crossings by say eighty percent isnt a success story?
You couple strong border control with the end of all services and employment and they'll go home.

Ending all services and employment........ What made you think they will go home HWGA?

You cant work,see a doc,go to school,receive food stamps,get a drivers license,open a bank account....etc,etc..
You are going to go home.

So by deporting themselves they have a better life on the other side of the wall?
No matter what their relatives or friends will feed them and still use toilet paper. On the other side your lucky if you have a newspaper or a water.
Common HWGA I know you are smarter than this. Seriously.

Surely you've been to mexico.
They can work there it's just not as lucrative and you need to ask yourself why they came here in the first place. If that goes away so do they.

That will be a big..... IF they can find a job.... Here they can always find dirty job no matter what it takes for them...... But self deport...... is like a suicide. Yes I have a business in Mexico.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

So cutting illegal border crossings by say eighty percent isnt a success story?
You couple strong border control with the end of all services and employment and they'll go home.

Ending all services and employment........ What made you think they will go home HWGA?

You cant work,see a doc,go to school,receive food stamps,get a drivers license,open a bank account....etc,etc..
You are going to go home.

So by deporting themselves they have a better life on the other side of the wall?
No matter what their relatives or friends will feed them and still use toilet paper. On the other side your lucky if you have a newspaper or a water.
Common HWGA I know you are smarter than this. Seriously.

Surely you've been to mexico.
They can work there it's just not as lucrative and you need to ask yourself why they came here in the first place. If that goes away so do they.

That will be a big..... IF they can find a job.... Here they can always find dirty job no matter what it takes for them...... But self deport...... is like a suicide. Yes I have a business in Mexico.

So you're one of those evil capitalist shipping jobs to mexico.
Trump just might make that less profitable.

 

[pwjohn]

You should have mentioned it dumass

I cant post the entire article, dumb ass.

That they still get through makes you look like an idiot pimp for trump.

So cutting illegal border crossings by say eighty percent isnt a success story?
You couple strong border control with the end of all services and employment and they'll go home.

Ending all services and employment........ What made you think they will go home HWGA?

You cant work,see a doc,go to school,receive food stamps,get a drivers license,open a bank account....etc,etc..
You are going to go home.

Will there be any further additions to your laundry list, like maybe death camps.