two imams screen three times before being kicked off from plane

[TheBrain]

he was making a blanket statement about muslims. he wasn't referring only to the airline.

so i *was* correct.. not "close".

which still doesn't change the fact that what was done was despicable.

Perhaps I'm misreading what you wrote. But if you're claim was that the COTUS was written to protect people's rights from other people, you are WRONG, end of that discussion Jillian.

that isn't what i said. try re-reading... i was responding to his blanket statement as i've already said.

end of convo anyway.

Well, I'm certainly glad to see you were not trying to say that the COTUS is meant to protect people from anything but government abuses. There are plenty who believe that it does more.

 

[Big Fitz]

From the article:

Rahman, who is a professor at the University of Memphis, told the affiliate that the incident reminded him of the prejudice Rosa Parks faced during the civil rights movement.

Equating religion with RACE? It's absurd.

Of course it is. But this is the Muslim Brotherhood plan. Use the legal code against itself till no one can criticize islam and it is able to move at will and conquer target nations from within.

 

[JBeukema]

That is not a law.

Want to try again?

Whaaaaaa? The Bill of Rights are not laws?

Not the last time I looked. Laws place constraints on individuals, are enforced by the government, and contain penalties.

COTUS isn't Law?

Then why would anyone be required to ever obey it?

 

[Steelplate]

fuck you for not understanding the principle of private property. How's that suit you.

Was it a private plane? Hell no... it was a Delta Flight. The Pilot is an EMPLOYEE of Delta. So unless you are saying that this is Delta's Policy, you're full of shit.

 

[Steelplate]

From the article:

Rahman, who is a professor at the University of Memphis, told the affiliate that the incident reminded him of the prejudice Rosa Parks faced during the civil rights movement.

Equating religion with RACE? It's absurd.

Of course it is. But this is the Muslim Brotherhood plan. Use the legal code against itself till no one can criticize islam and it is able to move at will and conquer target nations from within.

Paranoid, delusional bullshit. Thanks for playing.

 

[Big Fitz]

fuck you for not understanding the principle of private property. How's that suit you.

Was it a private plane? Hell no... it was a Delta Flight. The Pilot is an EMPLOYEE of Delta. So unless you are saying that this is Delta's Policy, you're full of shit.

So a Delta aircraft is not private property? Is that what you're saying? Who owns it?

 

[Steelplate]

fuck you for not understanding the principle of private property. How's that suit you.

Was it a private plane? Hell no... it was a Delta Flight. The Pilot is an EMPLOYEE of Delta. So unless you are saying that this is Delta's Policy, you're full of shit.

So a Delta aircraft is not private property? Is that what you're saying? Who owns it?

Certainly not the pilot of the plane. He shouldn't be allowed to let his paranoid, bigoted fear dictate who gets on and off. That should be Delta's job to set policy. If the pilot(s) are too "knee knocking" scared to fly the damned plane... fire the bastard and hire someone with balls.

 

[Big Fitz]

From the article:



Equating religion with RACE? It's absurd.

Of course it is. But this is the Muslim Brotherhood plan. Use the legal code against itself till no one can criticize islam and it is able to move at will and conquer target nations from within.

Paranoid, delusional bullshit. Thanks for playing.

You will make a very nice Dhimmi.

 

[Steelplate]

Of course it is. But this is the Muslim Brotherhood plan. Use the legal code against itself till no one can criticize islam and it is able to move at will and conquer target nations from within.

Paranoid, delusional bullshit. Thanks for playing.

You will make a very nice Dhimmi.

That's what they tell you to say at the klan meetings, isn't it?

 

[syrenn]

Was it a private plane? Hell no... it was a Delta Flight. The Pilot is an EMPLOYEE of Delta. So unless you are saying that this is Delta's Policy, you're full of shit.

So a Delta aircraft is not private property? Is that what you're saying? Who owns it?

Certainly not the pilot of the plane. He shouldn't be allowed to let his paranoid, bigoted fear dictate who gets on and off. That should be Delta's job to set policy. If the pilot(s) are too "knee knocking" scared to fly the damned plane... fire the bastard and hire someone with balls.

I suggest you read Deltas contract of carriage, rule 35. Delta HAS set policy of which the pilot saw fit to follow.

Contract of Carriage

 

[Zona]

Bullshit.

The FAA Rules allow a pilot to deplane unruly passengers and file a complaint with local authorities.

.

Then he should have kicked off everyone except the two muslims because they did NOTHING wrong. Its ignorant "tolerant" and good ol mericans who were being unruly.

Two guys just sitting there and these assholes are telling the pilot to kick them off cause they dont look merican to them.. Fuck them and fuck anyone who is supporting those idiots.


What fucking year is this?

fuck you for not understanding the principle of private property. How's that suit you.

This is exactly why Ron Paul wont win. Libertarianism sucks ass and assholes like you are dying off. You and those idiots on that plane. What next, jews because they dont like Tamika's? If a Chinese person wears some kind of garb, they cant fly? Same with the japanese? Marching bands in uniform? What? Didnt they pass some kind of law against this shit?

This is just sickening and of course a white male from good ol merica is not threatened.

 

[Big Fitz]

Paranoid, delusional bullshit. Thanks for playing.

You will make a very nice Dhimmi.

That's what they tell you to say at the klan meetings, isn't it?

 

[Steelplate]

I suggest you read Deltas contract of carriage, rule 35. Delta HAS set policy of which the pilot saw fit to follow.

Contract of Carriage

OK... which part applies?

RULE 25 REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT
Delta may refuse to transport any passenger, and may remove any passenger from its aircraft at any time,
for any of the following reasons:
A. Government Request Or Regulations
Whenever such action is necessary to comply with any government regulations, directives, or
instructions; or to comply with any governmental request for emergency transportation in connection
with the national defense, or whenever such action is necessary or advisable by reason of weather
or other conditions beyond its control (including but without limitation, acts of God, force majeure,
strikes, civil commotions, embargoes, wars, hostilities or disturbances) actual, threatened or
reported.
B. Search Of Passenger Or Property
When a passenger refuses to permit search of his person or property for explosives, weapons,
dangerous materials, or other prohibited items.
C. Proof Of Identity
When a passenger refuses on request to produce positive identification; provided however that Delta
shall have no obligation to require positive identification of persons purchasing tickets and/or
presenting tickets for the purpose of boarding aircraft.
D. Travel Across International Boundaries
When a passenger is traveling across any international boundary if:
1) the travel documents of such passenger are not in order; or
2) such transportation would be unlawful
E. Failure to Comply with Delta's Rules or Contract of Carriage
When a passenger fails or refuses to comply with any of Delta's rules or regulations or any term of
the contract of carriage.
Delta Air Lines International General Rules Page 18
RULE 25 REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT (continued)
F. Passenger's Conduct or Condition
Delta will not refuse to provide transportation to an individual with a disability, as defined in 14 C.F.R.
§ 382.5 and 382.31, based upon his or her disability, except as provided in Rule 25(G), below. Delta
will not refuse to provide transportation based upon race, color, national origin, religion, sex, or
ancestry. Subject to those qualifications, Delta may refuse to transport any passenger, or may
remove any passenger from its aircraft, when refusal to transport or removal of the passenger is
reasonably necessary in Delta’s sole discretion for the passenger’s comfort or safety, for the comfort
or safety of other passengers or Delta employees, or for the prevention of damage to the property of
Delta or its passengers or employees. By way of example, and without limitation, Delta may refuse
to transport or may remove passengers from its aircraft in any of the following situations:
1) When the passenger's conduct is disorderly, abusive or violent
2) When the passenger is barefoot
3) When the passenger appears to be intoxicated or under the influence of drugs
4) When the passenger attempts to interfere with any members of the flight crew in the pursuit of
his or her duties, or fails to obey the instruction of any member of the flight crew.
5) When the passenger has a contagious disease that may be transmissible to other passengers
during the normal course of the flight
6) When the passenger has a malodorous condition
7) When the passenger is unable to sit in a seat with the seatbelt fastened
8) When the passenger requires an onboard stretcher kit
9) When the passenger's behavior may be hazardous to himself/herself, the crew or other
passengers
10) When the passenger is seriously ill, and fails to provide a physician's written permission to fly.
11) When the passenger is traveling in an incubator.
12) When the passenger’s conduct creates an unreasonable risk of offense or annoyance to other
passengers.
13) When the passenger’s conduct creates risk of harm or damage to the carrier’s aircraft and/or
property.
Delta Air Lines International General Rules Page 19
RULE 25 REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT (continued)
G. Carriage of Passengers With Disabilities
Delta will not refuse to provide transportation to an individual with a disability, as defined in 14 C.F.R.
§ 382.5, based upon his or her disability, except in the following circumstances.
1. Safety
Delta may refuse to provide transportation to any passenger on the basis of safety, and may refuse
to provide transportation to any passenger whose carriage would violate the Federal Aviation
Regulations.
2. Advance Notice for Passengers Requiring Special Assistance
Delta requires 48 hours advance notice and one hour advance check-in by any persons who wish to
receive certain special assistance for persons with disabilities, where available, including for
example, medical oxygen for use on board the aircraft, packaging of a wheelchair battery for
shipment as checked luggage, and accommodation for a group of ten or more people with
disabilities. For travel on Delta flights operated by SkyWest Airlines, 48 hour advance notice is
required for shipment of any battery-operated wheelchair. Some special services may not be
available on all flights. Specific information concerning special services available on particular flights
is available from a Delta reservations agent. Delta will make reasonable efforts to accommodate
passengers requiring such assistance who fail to make reservations for such services at least 48
hours in advance or fail to meet these advance check-in requirements, but may deny boarding to
such passengers at its sole discretion.
3. Accompanying Attendant Required for Certain Passengers
Delta may require that an attendant accompany a passenger with a disability as a condition of
providing transportation if Delta determines that such an attendant is essential for safety in the
following circumstances:
a. When the passenger because of a mental disability is unable to comprehend or respond to
safety related instructions.
b. When the passenger has both a severe hearing and vision impairment and is unable to
establish a means of communication with Delta personnel sufficient to receive the safety
briefing,
c. When the passenger has a mobility impairment so severe as to be unable to assist in his/her
own evacuation.
4. EXCEPTION: Travel to/from Canada Only
For passengers traveling to or from Canada only, Delta will accept a passenger's determination of
his/her self-reliance with respect to air transportation as provided by Delta. Delta will afford no
special on-board attention beyond that afforded to the general public in such circumstances, except
such assistance in boarding and/or deplaning as may be required.
H. Recourse Of Passenger
All passengers are prohibited from engaging in any conduct that would authorize Delta to refuse
transport under this Rule. The sole recourse of any person refused carriage or removed en route for
any reason specified in this Rule shall be recovery of the refund value of the unused portion of his or
her ticket as provided in Rule 90(D).

 

[Big Fitz]

So a Delta aircraft is not private property? Is that what you're saying? Who owns it?

Certainly not the pilot of the plane. He shouldn't be allowed to let his paranoid, bigoted fear dictate who gets on and off. That should be Delta's job to set policy. If the pilot(s) are too "knee knocking" scared to fly the damned plane... fire the bastard and hire someone with balls.

I suggest you read Deltas contract of carriage, rule 35. Delta HAS set policy of which the pilot saw fit to follow.

Contract of Carriage

Whoopsie-daisy!

For those not willing to look it up, in the hotel biz we used to call this the "Right to refuse service".

RULE 35: REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT
Delta may refuse to transport any passenger, and may remove any passenger from its aircraft
at any time, for any of the following reasons:
A) Government Request or Regulations
Whenever such action is necessary to comply with any government regulations, directives, or
instructions; or to comply with any governmental request for emergency transportation in
connection with the national defense, or whenever such action is necessary or advisable by
reason of weather or other conditions beyond its control (including but without limitation, acts of
God, force majeure, strikes, civil commotions, embargoes, wars, hostilities, or disturbances)
actual, threatened, or reported.
B) Search of Passenger or Property
When a passenger refuses to permit search of his person or property for explosives, weapons,
dangerous materials, or other prohibited items.
C) Proof of Identity
When a passenger refuses on request to produce positive identification; provided, however, that
Delta shall have no obligation to require positive identification of persons purchasing tickets
and/or presenting tickets for the purpose of boarding aircraft.
D) Travel Across International Boundaries
When a passenger is traveling across any international boundary if:
1) the travel documents of such passenger are not in order; or
2) such transportation would be unlawful
Delta Domestic General Rules Tariff Page 11 of 51
E) Failure to Comply with Delta’s Rules or Contract of Carriage
When a passenger fails or refuses to comply with any of Delta’s rules or regulations or any term
of the contract of carriage.
F) Passenger’s Conduct or Condition
Delta will not refuse to provide transportation to an individual with a disability, as defined in 14
C.F.R. § 382.5 and 382.31, based upon his or her disability, except as provided in Rule 35(G),
below. Delta will not refuse to provide transportation based upon race, color, national origin,
religion, sex, or ancestry. Subject to those qualifications, Delta may refuse to transport any
passenger, or may remove any passenger from its aircraft, when refusal to transport or removal
of the passenger is reasonably necessary in Delta’s sole discretion for the passenger’s comfort
or safety, for the comfort or safety of other passengers or Delta employees, or for the prevention
of damage to the property of Delta or its passengers or employees. By way of example, and
without limitation, Delta may refuse to transport or may remove passengers from its aircraft in
any of the following situations:
1) When the passenger’s conduct is disorderly, abusive or violent.
2) When the passenger is barefoot.
3) When the passenger appears to be intoxicated or under the influence of drugs.
4) When the passenger attempts to interfere with any member of the flight crew in the pursuit of
his or her duties, or fails to obey the instruction of any member of the flight crew.
5) When the passenger has a contagious disease that may be transmissible to other passengers
during the normal course of the flight;
6) When the passenger has a malodorous condition;
7) When the passenger is unable to sit in a seat with the seatbelt fastened;
8) When the passenger requires an onboard stretcher kit;
9) When the passenger’s behavior may be hazardous to himself/herself, the crew, or other
passengers;
10) When the passenger is seriously ill, and fails to provide a physician's written permission to
fly.
11) When the passenger is traveling in an incubator.
12) When the passenger’s conduct creates an unreasonable risk of offense or annoyance to
other passengers.
13) When the passenger’s conduct creates a risk of harm or damage to the carrier’s aircraft
and/or property, or the property of other passengers.
G) Carriage of Passengers With Disabilities
Delta will not refuse to provide transportation to an individual with a disability, as defined in 14
C.F.R. § 382.5, based upon his or her disability, except in the following circumstances:
1. Safety
Delta may refuse to provide transportation to any passenger on the basis of safety, and may
refuse to provide transportation to any passenger whose carriage would violate the Federal
Aviation Regulations.
2. Advance Notice for Passengers Requiring Special Assistance
Delta requires 48 hours advance notice and one-hour advance check-in by any personswho wish to receive special assistance for persons with disabilities, where available,
including for example, medical oxygen for use on board the aircraft, packaging of a
wheelchair battery for shipment as checked luggage, and accommodation for a group of ten
or more people with disabilities. For travel on Delta flights operated by SkyWest Airlines, 48
hour advance notice is required for shipment of any battery-operated wheelchair. Some
special services may not be available on all flights. Specific information concerning special
services available on particular flights is available from a Delta reservations agent. Delta
will make reasonable efforts to accommodate passengers requiring such assistance who
fail to make reservations for such services at least 48 hours in advance or fail to meet these
check-in requirements, but may deny boarding to such passengers at its sole discretion.
3. Accompanying Attendant Required for Certain Passengers
Delta may require that an attendant accompany a passenger with a disability as a condition
of providing transportation if Delta determines that such an attendant is essential for safety
in the following circumstances:
a. When the passenger because of a mental disability is unable to comprehend or
respond to safety related instructions;
b. When the passenger has both a severe hearing and vision impairment and is
unable to establish a means of communication with Delta personnel sufficient to
receive the safety briefing;
c. When the passenger has a mobility impairment so severe as to be unable to
assist in his/her own evacuation.
4. EXCEPTION: Travel to/from Canada Only
For passengers traveling to or from Canada only, Delta will accept a passenger's
determination of
his/her self-reliance with respect to air transportation as provided by Delta. Delta will afford
no special on-board attention beyond that afforded to the general public in such
circumstances, except such assistance in boarding and/or deplaning as may be required.

 

[Big Fitz]

9) When the passenger's behavior may be hazardous to himself/herself, the crew or other
passengers

12) When the passenger’s conduct creates an unreasonable risk of offense or annoyance to
other passengers.

I do believe the pilot thought these were in order.

 

[Contumacious]

Then he should have kicked off everyone except the two muslims because they did NOTHING wrong. Its ignorant "tolerant" and good ol mericans who were being unruly.

Two guys just sitting there and these assholes are telling the pilot to kick them off cause they dont look merican to them.. Fuck them and fuck anyone who is supporting those idiots.


What fucking year is this?

fuck you for not understanding the principle of private property. How's that suit you.

This is exactly why Ron Paul wont win. Libertarianism sucks ass and assholes like you are dying off. You and those idiots on that plane. What next, jews because they dont like Tamika's? If a Chinese person wears some kind of garb, they cant fly? Same with the japanese? Marching bands in uniform? What? Didnt they pass some kind of law against this shit?

This is just sickening and of course a white male from good ol merica is not threatened.

Mr. Fucktard, Sir:

What do Ron Paul and the Libertarians have to do with the above Posters or the airlines policies?!?!?!?

Or did you just want to say something derogatory about Dr Paul?!?!?

.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Whaaaaaa? The Bill of Rights are not laws?

Not the last time I looked. Laws place constraints on individuals, are enforced by the government, and contain penalties.

COTUS isn't Law?

Then why would anyone be required to ever obey it?

No one is required to obey it. The Constitution restricts the power of government in order to protect individual liberty. What do they teach in schools now?

 

[JBeukema]

Not the last time I looked. Laws place constraints on individuals, are enforced by the government, and contain penalties.

COTUS isn't Law?

Then why would anyone be required to ever obey it?

No one is required to obey it.?

Good to know. Next time anyone complains that the President or anyone else is trampling COTUS, I'll send them to you.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This has nothing to do with "rights". You're being played and you don't even know it.

It has everything to do with rights, which protect against the tyranny of the majority, or in the case of this thread, the ignorant.

What are the penalties imposed on me, as an individual, for breaking the Constitution?

Damages in a civil case, fine or imprisonment in a criminal case:

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 242
Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law

This statute makes it a crime for any person acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom to willfully deprive or cause to be deprived from any person those rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution and laws of the U.S.

This law further prohibits a person acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation or custom to willfully subject or cause to be subjected any person to different punishments, pains, or penalties, than those prescribed for punishment of citizens on account of such person being an alien or by reason of his/her color or race.

Acts under "color of any law" include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the bounds or limits of their lawful authority, but also acts done without and beyond the bounds of their lawful authority; provided that, in order for unlawful acts of any official to be done under "color of any law," the unlawful acts must be done while such official is purporting or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. This definition includes, in addition to law enforcement officials, individuals such as Mayors, Council persons, Judges, Nursing Home Proprietors, Security Guards, etc., persons who are bound by laws, statutes ordinances, or customs.

Punishment varies from a fine or imprisonment of up to one year, or both, and if bodily injury results or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire shall be fined or imprisoned up to ten years or both, and if death results, or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

FBI — Federal Statutes

 

[Quantum Windbag]

COTUS isn't Law?

Then why would anyone be required to ever obey it?

No one is required to obey it.?

Good to know. Next time anyone complains that the President or anyone else is trampling COTUS, I'll send them to you.

I have said it myself. Please point out where I said he has to obey it.