two imams screen three times before being kicked off from plane

[Quantum Windbag]

What are the penalties imposed on me, as an individual, for breaking the Constitution?

Damages in a civil case, fine or imprisonment in a criminal case:

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 242
Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law

This statute makes it a crime for any person acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom to willfully deprive or cause to be deprived from any person those rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution and laws of the U.S.

This law further prohibits a person acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation or custom to willfully subject or cause to be subjected any person to different punishments, pains, or penalties, than those prescribed for punishment of citizens on account of such person being an alien or by reason of his/her color or race.

Acts under "color of any law" include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the bounds or limits of their lawful authority, but also acts done without and beyond the bounds of their lawful authority; provided that, in order for unlawful acts of any official to be done under "color of any law," the unlawful acts must be done while such official is purporting or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. This definition includes, in addition to law enforcement officials, individuals such as Mayors, Council persons, Judges, Nursing Home Proprietors, Security Guards, etc., persons who are bound by laws, statutes ordinances, or customs.

Punishment varies from a fine or imprisonment of up to one year, or both, and if bodily injury results or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire shall be fined or imprisoned up to ten years or both, and if death results, or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

FBI — Federal Statutes

Thanks for proving me right.

You just quoted the section of the US Code that discussing the criminal and civil penalties for breaking that law, not the Constitution.

 

[syrenn]

I suggest you read Deltas contract of carriage, rule 35. Delta HAS set policy of which the pilot saw fit to follow.

Contract of Carriage

OK... which part applies?

RULE 25 REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT
Delta may refuse to transport any passenger, and may remove any passenger from its aircraft at any time,
for any of the following reasons:
A. Government Request Or Regulations
Whenever such action is necessary to comply with any government regulations, directives, or
instructions; or to comply with any governmental request for emergency transportation in connection
with the national defense, or whenever such action is necessary or advisable by reason of weather
or other conditions beyond its control (including but without limitation, acts of God, force majeure,
strikes, civil commotions, embargoes, wars, hostilities or disturbances) actual, threatened or
reported.
B. Search Of Passenger Or Property
When a passenger refuses to permit search of his person or property for explosives, weapons,
dangerous materials, or other prohibited items.
C. Proof Of Identity
When a passenger refuses on request to produce positive identification; provided however that Delta
shall have no obligation to require positive identification of persons purchasing tickets and/or
presenting tickets for the purpose of boarding aircraft.
D. Travel Across International Boundaries
When a passenger is traveling across any international boundary if:
1) the travel documents of such passenger are not in order; or
2) such transportation would be unlawful
E. Failure to Comply with Delta's Rules or Contract of Carriage
When a passenger fails or refuses to comply with any of Delta's rules or regulations or any term of
the contract of carriage.
Delta Air Lines International General Rules Page 18
RULE 25 REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT (continued)
F. Passenger's Conduct or Condition
Delta will not refuse to provide transportation to an individual with a disability, as defined in 14 C.F.R.
§ 382.5 and 382.31, based upon his or her disability, except as provided in Rule 25(G), below. Delta
will not refuse to provide transportation based upon race, color, national origin, religion, sex, or
ancestry. Subject to those qualifications, Delta may refuse to transport any passenger, or may
remove any passenger from its aircraft, when refusal to transport or removal of the passenger is
reasonably necessary in Delta’s sole discretion for the passenger’s comfort or safety, for the comfort
or safety of other passengers or Delta employees, or for the prevention of damage to the property of
Delta or its passengers or employees. By way of example, and without limitation, Delta may refuse
to transport or may remove passengers from its aircraft in any of the following situations:
1) When the passenger's conduct is disorderly, abusive or violent
2) When the passenger is barefoot
3) When the passenger appears to be intoxicated or under the influence of drugs
4) When the passenger attempts to interfere with any members of the flight crew in the pursuit of
his or her duties, or fails to obey the instruction of any member of the flight crew.
5) When the passenger has a contagious disease that may be transmissible to other passengers
during the normal course of the flight
6) When the passenger has a malodorous condition
7) When the passenger is unable to sit in a seat with the seatbelt fastened
8) When the passenger requires an onboard stretcher kit
9) When the passenger's behavior may be hazardous to himself/herself, the crew or other
passengers
10) When the passenger is seriously ill, and fails to provide a physician's written permission to fly.
11) When the passenger is traveling in an incubator.
12) When the passenger’s conduct creates an unreasonable risk of offense or annoyance to other
passengers.
13) When the passenger’s conduct creates risk of harm or damage to the carrier’s aircraft and/or
property.
Delta Air Lines International General Rules Page 19
RULE 25 REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT (continued)
G. Carriage of Passengers With Disabilities
Delta will not refuse to provide transportation to an individual with a disability, as defined in 14 C.F.R.
§ 382.5, based upon his or her disability, except in the following circumstances.
1. Safety
Delta may refuse to provide transportation to any passenger on the basis of safety, and may refuse
to provide transportation to any passenger whose carriage would violate the Federal Aviation
Regulations.
2. Advance Notice for Passengers Requiring Special Assistance
Delta requires 48 hours advance notice and one hour advance check-in by any persons who wish to
receive certain special assistance for persons with disabilities, where available, including for
example, medical oxygen for use on board the aircraft, packaging of a wheelchair battery for
shipment as checked luggage, and accommodation for a group of ten or more people with
disabilities. For travel on Delta flights operated by SkyWest Airlines, 48 hour advance notice is
required for shipment of any battery-operated wheelchair. Some special services may not be
available on all flights. Specific information concerning special services available on particular flights
is available from a Delta reservations agent. Delta will make reasonable efforts to accommodate
passengers requiring such assistance who fail to make reservations for such services at least 48
hours in advance or fail to meet these advance check-in requirements, but may deny boarding to
such passengers at its sole discretion.
3. Accompanying Attendant Required for Certain Passengers
Delta may require that an attendant accompany a passenger with a disability as a condition of
providing transportation if Delta determines that such an attendant is essential for safety in the
following circumstances:
a. When the passenger because of a mental disability is unable to comprehend or respond to
safety related instructions.
b. When the passenger has both a severe hearing and vision impairment and is unable to
establish a means of communication with Delta personnel sufficient to receive the safety
briefing,
c. When the passenger has a mobility impairment so severe as to be unable to assist in his/her
own evacuation.
4. EXCEPTION: Travel to/from Canada Only
For passengers traveling to or from Canada only, Delta will accept a passenger's determination of
his/her self-reliance with respect to air transportation as provided by Delta. Delta will afford no
special on-board attention beyond that afforded to the general public in such circumstances, except
such assistance in boarding and/or deplaning as may be required.
H. Recourse Of Passenger
All passengers are prohibited from engaging in any conduct that would authorize Delta to refuse
transport under this Rule. The sole recourse of any person refused carriage or removed en route for
any reason specified in this Rule shall be recovery of the refund value of the unused portion of his or
her ticket as provided in Rule 90(D).

You said that Delta should set policy to follow. I showed you the policy in black and white. When you purchase your ticket that is part of your contract. Who knows what happened, but the pilot saw fit to boot them for what ever reason. The pilots are responsible for the crew and passengers on their flights. The are not responsible for being politically correct.

As people defending the tsa continually preach it is not a RIGHT to fly, here you have it. You buy a ticket and the airline has the right to refuse you being on its aircraft.

 

[gautama]

Bottom line: whenever the safety of American lives are confronted by the possibility of a Muslim arsehole threat.......the safety of American lives has priority.

Why ????

Answer: The Muslim Arseholes have earned their reputation as being fanatical whackjobs who are terrorists because their religion has, as its FIRST DICTUM the violent overthrow of the World to make the world the "Caliphate of Islam"........this from the author of their Qu'ran, Profit Mohammed who is a Historically Documented THIEF, MASS MURDERER, RAPIST & PEDOPHILIC RAPIST.....and NO ONE can deny this fact. Not even the Muslim arseholes themselves.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Islamophobia is today's version of celebrated bigotry.

We had jap-hating, then moved to ******-hating, then it was gook-hating, now it's muzzie-hating.

History will handle our current views the same way every other version of bigotry is handled, as something horrible and immoral. Our children and grandchildren will mock us for our ignorance and be downright ashamed of us for it.

Hence why I'll stay in the minority and proudly say I fear no man based on his religion or skin color.

 

[Steelplate]

You said that Delta should set policy to follow. I showed you the policy in black and white. When you purchase your ticket that is part of your contract. Who knows what happened, but the pilot saw fit to boot them for what ever reason. The pilots are responsible for the crew and passengers on their flights. The are not responsible for being politically correct.

As people defending the tsa continually preach it is not a RIGHT to fly, here you have it. You buy a ticket and the airline has the right to refuse you being on its aircraft. [/COLOR]

I don't recall saying that Delta Should set policy, just that the pilot should follow it, and.... "For whatever reason" is not good enough.

The airline didn't refuse to carry... the pilot(who is an employee and is charged with FOLLOWING POLICY) did. From what I read of the story, these two Imams did nothing wrong to warrant being taken off the flight. They were just Muslim. Which is not part of POLICY.

 

[syrenn]

You said that Delta should set policy to follow. I showed you the policy in black and white. When you purchase your ticket that is part of your contract. Who knows what happened, but the pilot saw fit to boot them for what ever reason. The pilots are responsible for the crew and passengers on their flights. The are not responsible for being politically correct.

As people defending the tsa continually preach it is not a RIGHT to fly, here you have it. You buy a ticket and the airline has the right to refuse you being on its aircraft. [/COLOR]

I don't recall saying that Delta Should set policy, just that the pilot should follow it, and.... "For whatever reason" is not good enough.

The airline didn't refuse to carry... the pilot(who is an employee and is charged with FOLLOWING POLICY) did. From what I read of the story, these two Imams did nothing wrong to warrant being taken off the flight. They were just Muslim. Which is not part of POLICY.[/QUOTE]

Certainly not the pilot of the plane. He shouldn't be allowed to let his paranoid, bigoted fear dictate who gets on and off. That should be Delta's job to set policy. If the pilot(s) are too "knee knocking" scared to fly the damned plane... fire the bastard and hire someone with balls.

As i keep telling you...Delta HAS set policy of which the pilots followed. The pilot can boot anyone they want for just about any reason. Again, read my link on contract of carriage.

 

[TheBrain]

Okay, tell me why this is unfair:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

That is not a law.

Want to try again?

what is it? a suggestion?

It is the foundation of our government, but not a law.

 

[Big Fitz]

Islamophobia is today's version of celebrated bigotry.

We had jap-hating, then moved to ******-hating, then it was gook-hating, now it's muzzie-hating.

History will handle our current views the same way every other version of bigotry is handled, as something horrible and immoral. Our children and grandchildren will mock us for our ignorance and be downright ashamed of us for it.

Hence why I'll stay in the minority and proudly say I fear no man based on his religion or skin color.

"When 100% of the terrorist are muslim, it ceases to be a stereotype and becomes a descriptor of the threat." Ann Coulter

 

[Dr.Drock]

Islamophobia is today's version of celebrated bigotry.

We had jap-hating, then moved to ******-hating, then it was gook-hating, now it's muzzie-hating.

History will handle our current views the same way every other version of bigotry is handled, as something horrible and immoral. Our children and grandchildren will mock us for our ignorance and be downright ashamed of us for it.

Hence why I'll stay in the minority and proudly say I fear no man based on his religion or skin color.

"When 100% of the terrorist are muslim, it ceases to be a stereotype and becomes a descriptor of the threat." Ann Coulter

We just want Jews to be perfected, as they say." --arguing that it would be better if we were all Christian -Ann Coulter

If you aren't christian, Coulter thinks you're a less valuable human being.

 

[gautama]

Islamophobia is today's version of celebrated bigotry.

We had jap-hating, then moved to ******-hating, then it was gook-hating, now it's muzzie-hating.

History will handle our current views the same way every other version of bigotry is handled, as something horrible and immoral. Our children and grandchildren will mock us for our ignorance and be downright ashamed of us for it.

Hence why I'll stay in the minority and proudly say I fear no man based on his religion or skin color.

Dr. Dreck,

My statement stands.

In spite of your verbiage, you cannot refute the essence of any of my sentences.

Final conclusion: You are a mindless MuslimArseLicking LIEberrhoid jerk.

 

[Valerie]

I suggest you read Deltas contract of carriage, rule 35. Delta HAS set policy of which the pilot saw fit to follow.

Contract of Carriage

OK... which part applies?

RULE 25 REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT
Delta may refuse to transport any passenger, and may remove any passenger from its aircraft at any time,
for any of the following reasons:
A. Government Request Or Regulations
Whenever such action is necessary to comply with any government regulations, directives, or
instructions; or to comply with any governmental request for emergency transportation in connection
with the national defense, or whenever such action is necessary or advisable by reason of weather
or other conditions beyond its control (including but without limitation, acts of God, force majeure,
strikes, civil commotions, embargoes, wars, hostilities or disturbances) actual, threatened or
reported.
B. Search Of Passenger Or Property
When a passenger refuses to permit search of his person or property for explosives, weapons,
dangerous materials, or other prohibited items.
C. Proof Of Identity
When a passenger refuses on request to produce positive identification; provided however that Delta
shall have no obligation to require positive identification of persons purchasing tickets and/or
presenting tickets for the purpose of boarding aircraft.
D. Travel Across International Boundaries
When a passenger is traveling across any international boundary if:
1) the travel documents of such passenger are not in order; or
2) such transportation would be unlawful
E. Failure to Comply with Delta's Rules or Contract of Carriage
When a passenger fails or refuses to comply with any of Delta's rules or regulations or any term of
the contract of carriage.
Delta Air Lines International General Rules Page 18
RULE 25 REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT (continued)
F. Passenger's Conduct or Condition
Delta will not refuse to provide transportation to an individual with a disability, as defined in 14 C.F.R.
§ 382.5 and 382.31, based upon his or her disability, except as provided in Rule 25(G), below. Delta
will not refuse to provide transportation based upon race, color, national origin, religion, sex, or
ancestry. Subject to those qualifications, Delta may refuse to transport any passenger, or may
remove any passenger from its aircraft, when refusal to transport or removal of the passenger is
reasonably necessary in Delta’s sole discretion for the passenger’s comfort or safety, for the comfort
or safety of other passengers or Delta employees, or for the prevention of damage to the property of
Delta or its passengers or employees. By way of example, and without limitation, Delta may refuse
to transport or may remove passengers from its aircraft in any of the following situations:
1) When the passenger's conduct is disorderly, abusive or violent
2) When the passenger is barefoot
3) When the passenger appears to be intoxicated or under the influence of drugs
4) When the passenger attempts to interfere with any members of the flight crew in the pursuit of
his or her duties, or fails to obey the instruction of any member of the flight crew.
5) When the passenger has a contagious disease that may be transmissible to other passengers
during the normal course of the flight
6) When the passenger has a malodorous condition
7) When the passenger is unable to sit in a seat with the seatbelt fastened
8) When the passenger requires an onboard stretcher kit
9) When the passenger's behavior may be hazardous to himself/herself, the crew or other
passengers
10) When the passenger is seriously ill, and fails to provide a physician's written permission to fly.
11) When the passenger is traveling in an incubator.
12) When the passenger’s conduct creates an unreasonable risk of offense or annoyance to other
passengers.
13) When the passenger’s conduct creates risk of harm or damage to the carrier’s aircraft and/or
property.
Delta Air Lines International General Rules Page 19
RULE 25 REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT (continued)
G. Carriage of Passengers With Disabilities
Delta will not refuse to provide transportation to an individual with a disability, as defined in 14 C.F.R.
§ 382.5, based upon his or her disability, except in the following circumstances.
1. Safety
Delta may refuse to provide transportation to any passenger on the basis of safety, and may refuse
to provide transportation to any passenger whose carriage would violate the Federal Aviation
Regulations.
2. Advance Notice for Passengers Requiring Special Assistance
Delta requires 48 hours advance notice and one hour advance check-in by any persons who wish to
receive certain special assistance for persons with disabilities, where available, including for
example, medical oxygen for use on board the aircraft, packaging of a wheelchair battery for
shipment as checked luggage, and accommodation for a group of ten or more people with
disabilities. For travel on Delta flights operated by SkyWest Airlines, 48 hour advance notice is
required for shipment of any battery-operated wheelchair. Some special services may not be
available on all flights. Specific information concerning special services available on particular flights
is available from a Delta reservations agent. Delta will make reasonable efforts to accommodate
passengers requiring such assistance who fail to make reservations for such services at least 48
hours in advance or fail to meet these advance check-in requirements, but may deny boarding to
such passengers at its sole discretion.
3. Accompanying Attendant Required for Certain Passengers
Delta may require that an attendant accompany a passenger with a disability as a condition of
providing transportation if Delta determines that such an attendant is essential for safety in the
following circumstances:
a. When the passenger because of a mental disability is unable to comprehend or respond to
safety related instructions.
b. When the passenger has both a severe hearing and vision impairment and is unable to
establish a means of communication with Delta personnel sufficient to receive the safety
briefing,
c. When the passenger has a mobility impairment so severe as to be unable to assist in his/her
own evacuation.
4. EXCEPTION: Travel to/from Canada Only
For passengers traveling to or from Canada only, Delta will accept a passenger's determination of
his/her self-reliance with respect to air transportation as provided by Delta. Delta will afford no
special on-board attention beyond that afforded to the general public in such circumstances, except
such assistance in boarding and/or deplaning as may be required.
H. Recourse Of Passenger
All passengers are prohibited from engaging in any conduct that would authorize Delta to refuse
transport under this Rule. The sole recourse of any person refused carriage or removed en route for
any reason specified in this Rule shall be recovery of the refund value of the unused portion of his or
her ticket as provided in Rule 90(D).

You said that Delta should set policy to follow. I showed you the policy in black and white. When you purchase your ticket that is part of your contract. Who knows what happened, but the pilot saw fit to boot them for what ever reason. The pilots are responsible for the crew and passengers on their flights. The are not responsible for being politically correct.

As people defending the tsa continually preach it is not a RIGHT to fly, here you have it. You buy a ticket and the airline has the right to refuse you being on its aircraft.

Yes, they reserve the right on certain rational grounds... Simply being Muslim or "looking" Muslim is not one of them.

 

[TheBrain]

COTUS isn't Law?

Then why would anyone be required to ever obey it?

No one is required to obey it.?

Good to know. Next time anyone complains that the President or anyone else is trampling COTUS, I'll send them to you.

The President is of course the government, so nice try.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Islamophobia is today's version of celebrated bigotry.

We had jap-hating, then moved to ******-hating, then it was gook-hating, now it's muzzie-hating.

History will handle our current views the same way every other version of bigotry is handled, as something horrible and immoral. Our children and grandchildren will mock us for our ignorance and be downright ashamed of us for it.

Hence why I'll stay in the minority and proudly say I fear no man based on his religion or skin color.

Dr. Dreck,

My statement stands.

In spite of your verbiage, you cannot refute the essence of any of my sentences.

Final conclusion: You are a mindless MuslimArseLicking LIEberrhoid jerk.

Name one good thing i've ever said about Islam.

Just one

I'll wait patiently

 

[TheBrain]

fuck you for not understanding the principle of private property. How's that suit you.

Was it a private plane? Hell no... it was a Delta Flight. The Pilot is an EMPLOYEE of Delta. So unless you are saying that this is Delta's Policy, you're full of shit.

Delta's policy is to allow their pilots to remove passengers who they feel are a danger.

 

[B. Kidd]

Islamophobia is today's version of celebrated bigotry.

We had jap-hating, then moved to ******-hating, then it was gook-hating, now it's muzzie-hating.

History will handle our current views the same way every other version of bigotry is handled, as something horrible and immoral. Our children and grandchildren will mock us for our ignorance and be downright ashamed of us for it.

Hence why I'll stay in the minority and proudly say I fear no man based on his religion or skin color.

Well. There has been improvement. We've moved from internment camps to kicking two Imans off a Delta flight.

 

[TheBrain]

This has nothing to do with "rights". You're being played and you don't even know it.

It has everything to do with rights, which protect against the tyranny of the majority, or in the case of this thread, the ignorant.

What are the penalties imposed on me, as an individual, for breaking the Constitution?

Damages in a civil case, fine or imprisonment in a criminal case:

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 242
Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law

This statute makes it a crime for any person acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom to willfully deprive or cause to be deprived from any person those rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution and laws of the U.S.

This law further prohibits a person acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation or custom to willfully subject or cause to be subjected any person to different punishments, pains, or penalties, than those prescribed for punishment of citizens on account of such person being an alien or by reason of his/her color or race.

Acts under "color of any law" include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the bounds or limits of their lawful authority, but also acts done without and beyond the bounds of their lawful authority; provided that, in order for unlawful acts of any official to be done under "color of any law," the unlawful acts must be done while such official is purporting or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. This definition includes, in addition to law enforcement officials, individuals such as Mayors, Council persons, Judges, Nursing Home Proprietors, Security Guards, etc., persons who are bound by laws, statutes ordinances, or customs.

Punishment varies from a fine or imprisonment of up to one year, or both, and if bodily injury results or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire shall be fined or imprisoned up to ten years or both, and if death results, or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

FBI — Federal Statutes

That is a codified law, NOT part of the COTUS.

Jesus you people are stupid.

 

[TheBrain]

Was it a private plane? Hell no... it was a Delta Flight. The Pilot is an EMPLOYEE of Delta. So unless you are saying that this is Delta's Policy, you're full of shit.

So a Delta aircraft is not private property? Is that what you're saying? Who owns it?

Certainly not the pilot of the plane. He shouldn't be allowed to let his paranoid, bigoted fear dictate who gets on and off. That should be Delta's job to set policy. If the pilot(s) are too "knee knocking" scared to fly the damned plane... fire the bastard and hire someone with balls.

You're a nitwit. Does the manager of a club who ejects a patron for breaking the rules own the club? Of course not, but he has been empowered by the actual owner to act in his steed.

As for the reasoning. I need no reason for removing you from my property or refusing your business.

 

[syrenn]

OK... which part applies?

RULE 25 REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT
Delta may refuse to transport any passenger, and may remove any passenger from its aircraft at any time,
for any of the following reasons:
A. Government Request Or Regulations
Whenever such action is necessary to comply with any government regulations, directives, or
instructions; or to comply with any governmental request for emergency transportation in connection
with the national defense, or whenever such action is necessary or advisable by reason of weather
or other conditions beyond its control (including but without limitation, acts of God, force majeure,
strikes, civil commotions, embargoes, wars, hostilities or disturbances) actual, threatened or
reported.
B. Search Of Passenger Or Property
When a passenger refuses to permit search of his person or property for explosives, weapons,
dangerous materials, or other prohibited items.
C. Proof Of Identity
When a passenger refuses on request to produce positive identification; provided however that Delta
shall have no obligation to require positive identification of persons purchasing tickets and/or
presenting tickets for the purpose of boarding aircraft.
D. Travel Across International Boundaries
When a passenger is traveling across any international boundary if:
1) the travel documents of such passenger are not in order; or
2) such transportation would be unlawful
E. Failure to Comply with Delta's Rules or Contract of Carriage
When a passenger fails or refuses to comply with any of Delta's rules or regulations or any term of
the contract of carriage.
Delta Air Lines International General Rules Page 18
RULE 25 REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT (continued)
F. Passenger's Conduct or Condition
Delta will not refuse to provide transportation to an individual with a disability, as defined in 14 C.F.R.
§ 382.5 and 382.31, based upon his or her disability, except as provided in Rule 25(G), below. Delta
will not refuse to provide transportation based upon race, color, national origin, religion, sex, or
ancestry. Subject to those qualifications, Delta may refuse to transport any passenger, or may
remove any passenger from its aircraft, when refusal to transport or removal of the passenger is
reasonably necessary in Delta’s sole discretion for the passenger’s comfort or safety, for the comfort
or safety of other passengers or Delta employees, or for the prevention of damage to the property of
Delta or its passengers or employees. By way of example, and without limitation, Delta may refuse
to transport or may remove passengers from its aircraft in any of the following situations:
1) When the passenger's conduct is disorderly, abusive or violent
2) When the passenger is barefoot
3) When the passenger appears to be intoxicated or under the influence of drugs
4) When the passenger attempts to interfere with any members of the flight crew in the pursuit of
his or her duties, or fails to obey the instruction of any member of the flight crew.
5) When the passenger has a contagious disease that may be transmissible to other passengers
during the normal course of the flight
6) When the passenger has a malodorous condition
7) When the passenger is unable to sit in a seat with the seatbelt fastened
8) When the passenger requires an onboard stretcher kit
9) When the passenger's behavior may be hazardous to himself/herself, the crew or other
passengers
10) When the passenger is seriously ill, and fails to provide a physician's written permission to fly.
11) When the passenger is traveling in an incubator.
12) When the passenger’s conduct creates an unreasonable risk of offense or annoyance to other
passengers.
13) When the passenger’s conduct creates risk of harm or damage to the carrier’s aircraft and/or
property.
Delta Air Lines International General Rules Page 19
RULE 25 REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT (continued)
G. Carriage of Passengers With Disabilities
Delta will not refuse to provide transportation to an individual with a disability, as defined in 14 C.F.R.
§ 382.5, based upon his or her disability, except in the following circumstances.
1. Safety
Delta may refuse to provide transportation to any passenger on the basis of safety, and may refuse
to provide transportation to any passenger whose carriage would violate the Federal Aviation
Regulations.
2. Advance Notice for Passengers Requiring Special Assistance
Delta requires 48 hours advance notice and one hour advance check-in by any persons who wish to
receive certain special assistance for persons with disabilities, where available, including for
example, medical oxygen for use on board the aircraft, packaging of a wheelchair battery for
shipment as checked luggage, and accommodation for a group of ten or more people with
disabilities. For travel on Delta flights operated by SkyWest Airlines, 48 hour advance notice is
required for shipment of any battery-operated wheelchair. Some special services may not be
available on all flights. Specific information concerning special services available on particular flights
is available from a Delta reservations agent. Delta will make reasonable efforts to accommodate
passengers requiring such assistance who fail to make reservations for such services at least 48
hours in advance or fail to meet these advance check-in requirements, but may deny boarding to
such passengers at its sole discretion.
3. Accompanying Attendant Required for Certain Passengers
Delta may require that an attendant accompany a passenger with a disability as a condition of
providing transportation if Delta determines that such an attendant is essential for safety in the
following circumstances:
a. When the passenger because of a mental disability is unable to comprehend or respond to
safety related instructions.
b. When the passenger has both a severe hearing and vision impairment and is unable to
establish a means of communication with Delta personnel sufficient to receive the safety
briefing,
c. When the passenger has a mobility impairment so severe as to be unable to assist in his/her
own evacuation.
4. EXCEPTION: Travel to/from Canada Only
For passengers traveling to or from Canada only, Delta will accept a passenger's determination of
his/her self-reliance with respect to air transportation as provided by Delta. Delta will afford no
special on-board attention beyond that afforded to the general public in such circumstances, except
such assistance in boarding and/or deplaning as may be required.
H. Recourse Of Passenger
All passengers are prohibited from engaging in any conduct that would authorize Delta to refuse
transport under this Rule. The sole recourse of any person refused carriage or removed en route for
any reason specified in this Rule shall be recovery of the refund value of the unused portion of his or
her ticket as provided in Rule 90(D).

You said that Delta should set policy to follow. I showed you the policy in black and white. When you purchase your ticket that is part of your contract. Who knows what happened, but the pilot saw fit to boot them for what ever reason. The pilots are responsible for the crew and passengers on their flights. The are not responsible for being politically correct.

As people defending the tsa continually preach it is not a RIGHT to fly, here you have it. You buy a ticket and the airline has the right to refuse you being on its aircraft.

Yes, they reserve the right on certain rational grounds... Simply being Muslim or "looking" Muslim is not one of them.

They essentially reserve the right to not fly anyone they don't want for any reason they want.

 

[syrenn]

fuck you for not understanding the principle of private property. How's that suit you.

Was it a private plane? Hell no... it was a Delta Flight. The Pilot is an EMPLOYEE of Delta. So unless you are saying that this is Delta's Policy, you're full of shit.

Delta's policy is to allow their pilots to remove passengers who they feel are a danger.

What "danger" constitutes is up to wide interpretation. Saying the wrong thing in jest, making the wrong kind of joke, can get you the boot just as fast as a threat.

And its not just delta. All carriers have about the same contract of carriage.

 

[Big Fitz]

That is not a law.

Want to try again?

what is it? a suggestion?

It is the foundation of our government, but not a law.

I didn't realize that Delta Airlines is a government agency.

What this dimbulb seems to forget is that the First Amendment prohibits government from using certain criterion to use discrimination based on race, color, creed. Delta is not beholden to the same rule as a private entity. They can, within certain boundaries, discriminate against anyone they please BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GOVERNMENT.

Private businesses has much more leeway.