U.S. military decimated under Obama

[Moonglow]

Railguns and lasers right around the corner.

Yes, one laser on a Naval ship cut a target ship in two....

 

[Moonglow]

There's really no new weapons systems. Only more efficient and accurate ones. We've hit a ceiling of sorts technology-wise where all we have to do now is make things smaller, lighter, faster, etc. But the weapons systems are just variations on centuries old themes (solid projectiles travelling down a pipe, or some explosive device carried aloft by a rocket.) So in 30 years our stuff will be 30 years smaller or faster, but not 30 years newer. There's nothing left to invent that's really new. More disturbing, it only took us about 5 years to invent from scratch the atomic bomb. If you can get the fissile material (U-238 or plutonium) the actual mechanics and engineering is so simple engineering grad students at MIT are tasked with doing it and most succeed (absent the fissile material of course.)

I expect future weapons systems to be things whose effects are discreet. A mushroom cloud isn't discreet so not something you can get away with actually using. Biological and chemical, cyber, and some other stuff I've read about suggest the holy grail of weapons research is anything with big effect but low observability.

You must have missed the Navy's new Laser Weapon System. Star Wars technology the left said was impossible to develop

High impact sonic canons...

 

[bodecea]

Here's a scenario. In order to placate defense contractors and ensure they make lots of money at the expense of our military veterans, weaken US defense capability to the point where an enemy shows up on US shores some day ala Kuwait in '91. As we're invaded and only just able to repel the invaders, the US population demands more defense spending.

It's too late by then.

Not at all. Unless you wanna get wasted too you're not gonna use nuclear weapons. Any war where even one nuke gets used opens pandora's box to a full release (and not the pleasant happy kind.) So a ground operation to secure territory is all that's left. You could never take over the US for any length of time (geography working in our favor and making supply lines all but impossible,) but the attack gesture could result in concessions being given when it's over so you never do it again.

Defense contractors love wars. Doesn't matter what they're about, how successful they are, or how long they last. Longer the better. Wars make the contractors money. If defense spending gets cut, they need an enemy to justify ramping spending back up. No better boogeyman than the guys who just landed on the East Coast.

If they see defense spending being scaled back bit by bit over time, they might not resist it and even encourage it on the hope someone takes a shot at us. Once that happens, demands to be protected come and spending goes back up. Like drug dealers giving free samples knowing people will get hooked and spend lots more than the free sample cost the dealer.

Actually Defense contractors don't love war. They love weapons development. That is the biggest expense to the government. Once a system is tested at government expense they can sell it to anyone. If you're in a war expense is a major factor, and cuts have to be made. New weapons have to take a back seat to sheer numbers.

Don't get money to develop new weapons systems if no one's depleting their existing supplies in wars.

Meanwhile our enemies are developing newer and more sophisticated weapons making ours obsolete. Yeah...brilliant

Which enemies are those who are developing "newer and more sophisticated weapons"?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

It's too late by then.

Not at all. Unless you wanna get wasted too you're not gonna use nuclear weapons. Any war where even one nuke gets used opens pandora's box to a full release (and not the pleasant happy kind.) So a ground operation to secure territory is all that's left. You could never take over the US for any length of time (geography working in our favor and making supply lines all but impossible,) but the attack gesture could result in concessions being given when it's over so you never do it again.

Defense contractors love wars. Doesn't matter what they're about, how successful they are, or how long they last. Longer the better. Wars make the contractors money. If defense spending gets cut, they need an enemy to justify ramping spending back up. No better boogeyman than the guys who just landed on the East Coast.

If they see defense spending being scaled back bit by bit over time, they might not resist it and even encourage it on the hope someone takes a shot at us. Once that happens, demands to be protected come and spending goes back up. Like drug dealers giving free samples knowing people will get hooked and spend lots more than the free sample cost the dealer.

Actually Defense contractors don't love war. They love weapons development. That is the biggest expense to the government. Once a system is tested at government expense they can sell it to anyone. If you're in a war expense is a major factor, and cuts have to be made. New weapons have to take a back seat to sheer numbers.

Don't get money to develop new weapons systems if no one's depleting their existing supplies in wars.

Meanwhile our enemies are developing newer and more sophisticated weapons making ours obsolete. Yeah...brilliant

Which enemies are those who are developing "newer and more sophisticated weapons"?

Russia...now go shave

 

[bodecea]

By utter coincidence this tends to happen with Democrat presidents.

Like LBJ.
Like FDR.
Like Wilson.

 

[Moonglow]

Strategic defense is fading fast, meanwhile Obama ashcans nonproliferation and our Allies

You mean conventional forces?

 

[Theowl32]

Notice, how the liberals (socialist/marxists that we call liberals) see this as great news.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

By utter coincidence this tends to happen with Democrat presidents.

Like LBJ.
Like FDR.
Like Wilson.

More like Clinton

 

[bodecea]

Not at all. Unless you wanna get wasted too you're not gonna use nuclear weapons. Any war where even one nuke gets used opens pandora's box to a full release (and not the pleasant happy kind.) So a ground operation to secure territory is all that's left. You could never take over the US for any length of time (geography working in our favor and making supply lines all but impossible,) but the attack gesture could result in concessions being given when it's over so you never do it again.

Defense contractors love wars. Doesn't matter what they're about, how successful they are, or how long they last. Longer the better. Wars make the contractors money. If defense spending gets cut, they need an enemy to justify ramping spending back up. No better boogeyman than the guys who just landed on the East Coast.

If they see defense spending being scaled back bit by bit over time, they might not resist it and even encourage it on the hope someone takes a shot at us. Once that happens, demands to be protected come and spending goes back up. Like drug dealers giving free samples knowing people will get hooked and spend lots more than the free sample cost the dealer.

Actually Defense contractors don't love war. They love weapons development. That is the biggest expense to the government. Once a system is tested at government expense they can sell it to anyone. If you're in a war expense is a major factor, and cuts have to be made. New weapons have to take a back seat to sheer numbers.

Don't get money to develop new weapons systems if no one's depleting their existing supplies in wars.

Meanwhile our enemies are developing newer and more sophisticated weapons making ours obsolete. Yeah...brilliant

Which enemies are those who are developing "newer and more sophisticated weapons"?

Russia...now go shave

Russia? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

(again with the "now go shave"....is that some reference to something?)

 

[Flash]

Obama is the worse Commander in Chief this country ever had, by far. He is even worse than that draft dodging scumbag Bill Clinton, who use to hold the record.

Hussein never had the courage to serve in the military and I am sure the communists buddies he hung out with in college bad mouthed the US military ever chance they could. The military has no respect for him.

He is an embarrassment to this country. The Moon Bats that elected him really fucked this country in many ways.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Actually Defense contractors don't love war. They love weapons development. That is the biggest expense to the government. Once a system is tested at government expense they can sell it to anyone. If you're in a war expense is a major factor, and cuts have to be made. New weapons have to take a back seat to sheer numbers.

Don't get money to develop new weapons systems if no one's depleting their existing supplies in wars.

Meanwhile our enemies are developing newer and more sophisticated weapons making ours obsolete. Yeah...brilliant

Which enemies are those who are developing "newer and more sophisticated weapons"?

Russia...now go shave

Russia? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

(again with the "now go shave"....is that some reference to something?)

 

[bodecea]

By utter coincidence this tends to happen with Democrat presidents.

Like LBJ.
Like FDR.
Like Wilson.

More like Clinton

Who were we fighting under President Clinton again?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

By utter coincidence this tends to happen with Democrat presidents.

Like LBJ.
Like FDR.
Like Wilson.

More like Clinton

Who were we fighting under President Clinton again?

Not many, he was a pussy

 

[bodecea]

Don't get money to develop new weapons systems if no one's depleting their existing supplies in wars.

Meanwhile our enemies are developing newer and more sophisticated weapons making ours obsolete. Yeah...brilliant

Which enemies are those who are developing "newer and more sophisticated weapons"?

Russia...now go shave

Russia? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

(again with the "now go shave"....is that some reference to something?)

Those are like Bradleys.....so? Their subs are still rusting in ports....their nukes are rusting too. This is priceless how you are making this threat up......................you work for a PR company tied to the military industrial complex?

 

[rightwinger]

By utter coincidence this tends to happen with Democrat presidents.

Like LBJ.
Like FDR.
Like Wilson.

More like Clinton

You mean after the Cold War was over?

 

[bodecea]

By utter coincidence this tends to happen with Democrat presidents.

Like LBJ.
Like FDR.
Like Wilson.

More like Clinton

Who were we fighting under President Clinton again?

Not many, he was a pussy

Yet a very successful President who managed our economy quite well.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

By utter coincidence this tends to happen with Democrat presidents.

Like LBJ.
Like FDR.
Like Wilson.

More like Clinton

You mean after the Cold War was over?

The thread is about decimating our military, Clinton did that. Refute it

 

[bodecea]

By utter coincidence this tends to happen with Democrat presidents.

Like LBJ.
Like FDR.
Like Wilson.

More like Clinton

You mean after the Cold War was over?

Sounds like she can't let the Cold War go.

 

[rightwinger]

I love the fear mongering when it comes to the military

Always some evil boogeyman lurking in the shadows ready to invade our shores. The US is part of the strongest military alliance on earth. Our military is stronger than the next ten nations combined...nobody is going to fuck with us

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I love the fear mongering when it comes to the military

Always some evil boogeyman lurking in the shadows ready to invade our shores. The US is part of the strongest military alliance on earth. Our military is stronger than the next ten nations combined...nobody is going to fuck with us

I've responded to each of your claims with facts, you should do the same and cease with the blather