U.S. Muslims Concerned About Their Place in Society, but Continue to Believe in the American Dream

[bitter clinging swiftie]

info on 'king abdullah' of 'jordan . He got annoyed when his captured Pilot was burned alive in a cage so he made a publicity flight or attack to show that he was mad , imo .

that's the dude I was talkin about

 

[pismoe]

info on 'king abdullah' of 'jordan . He got annoyed when his captured Pilot was burned alive in a cage so he made a publicity flight or attack to show that he was mad , imo .

that's the dude I was talkin about

-------------------------------- YEP , thats why i put up an info link Swifty .

 

[pismoe]

king is an apostate as far as 'islam' is concerned , probably the same as Egypts 'al sisi' Swifty .

 

[NLT]

"Americans do not see Islam as part of mainstream U.S. society."

 

[pismoe]

"Americans do not see Islam as part of mainstream U.S. society."

----------------------------------------- and it isn't mainstream America , Americans revere the USA Constitution while muslim revere mohamad and sharia law NLT .

 

[pismoe]

AMI interviews somali muslims on streets of 'Minnesota' . --- Minneapolis Muslims: Sharia law better than American laws ---

 

[Unkotare]

"Americans do not see Islam as part of mainstream U.S. society."

----------------------------------------- and it isn't mainstream America , Americans revere the USA Constitution while muslim revere mohamad and sharia law NLT .

That is entirely disingenuous. Ask most practicing Christian Americans if they Revere Jesus and the Bible ahead of the United States Constitution, and they will tell you that they do. However, they live their lives in accordance with the laws of the United States of America.

 

[pismoe]

AMI interviews somali muslims on streets of 'Minnesota' . --- Minneapolis Muslims: Sharia law better than American laws ---

----------------------------------------------- USA law is what Law Abiding Christians , Buddhists , Catholics , Protestants and other religions or athiests conform to . muslims if they are TRUE muslims do not believe in putting the Constitution above islamic , sharia or mohammads law . And their muslim religion does not allow them to put the Constitution above 'mohammads' law . Afterall , punishment for muslim APOSTASY is death . -------------------- Christians for example are not part of this world and are under Secular Law or MANS Law or USA Constitution while residing here on Earth . ------------------- just a comment .

 

[pismoe]

if muslims followed man made USA Constitutional laws they wouldn't be murdering homosexuals at Pulse nightclub in Orlando or murdering in San Bernadino or flying jets into the Trade Tower or just a few days ago where muslims killed 3 American ALLY soldiers in some muslim land .

 

[Unkotare]

So much bigoted nonsense by folks trying to justify preconceived notions.

 

[pismoe]

--- muslims at work in Hamburg Germany , --- Machete-Yielding Man Screams "Allahu Akbar" As He Kills One, Injures Several In Hamburg Supermarket | Zero Hedge ---

 

[Unkotare]

if muslims followed man made USA Constitutional laws they wouldn't be murdering homosexuals at Pulse nightclub in Orlando or murdering in San Bernadino or flying jets into the Trade Tower or just a few days ago where muslims killed 3 American ALLY soldiers in some muslim land .

Back to this fallacy again?

 

[Coyote]

Latest Pew Poll....interesting. It's been ten years since the last poll on American Muslims and, like before...they aren't much different then other American demographics.

U.S. Muslims Concerned About Their Place in Society, but Continue to Believe in the American Dream

The early days of Donald Trump’s presidency have been an anxious time for many Muslim Americans, according to a new Pew Research Center survey. Overall, Muslims in the United States perceive a lot of discrimination against their religious group, are leery of Trump and think their fellow Americans do not see Islam as part of mainstream U.S. society.

At the same time, however, Muslim Americans express a persistent streak of optimism and positive feelings. Overwhelmingly, they say they are proud to be Americans, believe that hard work generally brings success in this country and are satisfied with the way things are going in their own lives – even if they are not satisfied with the direction of the country as a whole.

In addition, half of Muslim Americans say it has become harder to be Muslim in the U.S. in recent years. And 48% say they have experienced at least one incident of discrimination in the past 12 months.

But alongside these reports of discrimination, a similar – and growing – share (49%) of Muslim Americans say someone has expressed support for them because of their religion in the past year. And 55% think Americans in general are friendly toward U.S. Muslims, compared with just 14% who say they are unfriendly.

The Muslim population in the U.S. is growing and highly diverse, made up largely of immigrants and the children of immigrants from all across the world. Indeed, respondents in the survey hail from at least 75 nations – although the vast majority are now U.S. citizens. As a group, Muslims are younger and more racially diverse than the general population.

The survey also shows that Muslims largely share the general public’s concerns about religious extremism. Indeed, if anything, Muslims may be more concerned than non-Muslims about extremism in the name of Islam. Yet most Muslims say there is little support for extremism within the U.S. Muslim community, and few say they think violence against civilians can be justified in pursuit of religious, political or social causes.

While U.S. Muslims are concerned about extremism and overwhelmingly opposed to the use of violence against civilians, they also are somewhat mistrustful of law enforcement officials and skeptical of the integrity of government sting operations. About four-in-ten U.S. Muslims (39%) believe most Muslims who have been arrested in the U.S. on suspicion of plotting terrorist acts posed a real threat. But three-in-ten (30%) say law enforcement officers have arrested mostly people who were tricked and did not pose a real threat. And an additional three-in-ten volunteer that “it depends” or offer another response or no response. Views on this topic among the general public are less divided: A majority of U.S. adults (62%) say officers in sting operations have mostly arrested people who posed a real threat to others.

Muslims say their faith is not only about beliefs and rituals
The diversity of Muslims in the U.S. extends to religious beliefs and practices as well. While nearly all Muslims say they are proud to be Muslim, they are not of one mind about what is essential to being Muslim, and their levels of religious practice vary widely.

Most U.S. Muslims (64%) say there is more than one true way to interpret Islam. They also are more likely to say traditional understandings of Islam need to be reinterpreted in light of modern contexts (52%) than to say traditional understandings are all that is needed (38%).

Muslims also were asked whether each of eight actions and behaviors is an “essential” part of what being Muslim means to them, an “important but not essential” part or “not an important” part. Fully 85% of Muslims say believing in God is essential to what being Muslim means to them, more than say the same about any other item in the survey. And nearly three-quarters say “loving the Prophet Muhammad” is essential to what being Muslim means to them.


And:

Most Muslims say working for justice, protecting the environment among keys to what it means to be Muslim

Why aren't they asked how they feel about Jews, Homosexuals, or Hamas? Because PEW is afraid of the answers.

Polls show little support for extremists (ie Hamas)...other polls have shown that Muslims are in line with most Christian groups in terms of homosexuals, in fact - Evangelicals score worse.

A) They don't consider Hamas to be extremists, ask any Muslim you meet how they feel specifically about Hamas.


B) The majority of Christians support gay marriage, you have to use one sect of Christianity to make your false analogy.

Have you spoken to all Muslims in America about Hamas to make this conclusion.

How do you feel about hamas? Will you for the record comdemn them as a terrorist organization which has no place in the modern world?

Why should they have to do that? Is any other demographic or religious group required to do something similar?

 

[Coyote]

Link?

They won't do a poll on the subject at least not one I've been able to find, but find me an example of a prominent religious American Muslim who has condemned them, the left's new Muslim mouthpiece Linda "Sharia" Sarsour sure as hell hasn't.

In other words you're just making it up.

Christians are diverse and extremely different from one another. Evangelicals are a HUGE proportion. Just accept the fact that American Muslims are right in the opinion mainstream. I know it sucks but that's what the data shows.

Poll: Majority of Religious Americans Support Gay Marriage
According to the poll, 42 percent of white evangelicals said they oppose allowing business to refuse services. Fifty-two percent of Mormons, 53 percent of Jehovah’s Witnesses, 60 percent of Muslims, 63 percent of Hispanic Catholics, and 72 percent of Jews said they are against allowing small business the right to refuse services.

Evangelicals do not make up the majority of Christians in this country, if memory serves they don't even make up the majority of Protestants.

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No. It's Evangelical Protestants: Religious Landscape Study

Why don't you break the Muslims down by groups? I have no problem with most Kurds and Sufis which make up the majority of US Muslims and who for the most part are secular and liberal, it's the Sunni nut jobs you people want to import from Iraq, Syria, the Palestinian territories etc. that I have a huge problem with.

Because the polls don't break it down.

"Kurds" aren't a form of Islam - they are an ethnic group and religiously they are Muslim, Yarsan, Yazidi, Zoroastrianist and Christian. The majority are Sunni Muslim.

According to wiki on American Muslims- 50% are Sunni, 16% Shia, 22% non-affiliated and 16% other (like Sufi or Ahmadiyya etc).

Islam in the United States - Wikipedia
Mosques are usually explicitly Sunni or Shia although they are over 55 Ahmadiyya mosques as well. There are 2,106 mosques in the United States as of 2010,[98] and the nation's largest mosque, the Islamic Center of America, is in Dearborn, Michigan. It caters mainly to the Shia Muslim congregation; however, all Muslims may attend this mosque. It was rebuilt in 2005 to accommodate over 3,000 people for the increasing Muslim population in the region.[99][100] Approximately half (50%) of the religious affiliations of Muslims is Sunni, 16% Shia, 22% non-affiliated and 16% other/non-response.[101] Muslims of Arab descent are mostly Sunni (56%) with minorities who are Shia (19%). Muslims of South Asian descent including Bangladeshis (90%), Indians (82%) and Pakistanis (72%) are mainly Sunni, other groups such as Iranians are mainly Shia (91%).[101] Of African American Muslims, 48% are Sunni, 34% are unaffiliated (mostly part of the Community of W.Deen Mohammed), 16% other (mostly Nation of Islam and Ahmadiyya) and 2% Shia.[101]

 

[Coyote]

question for you muslims on this thred. Back when I was young, the stereotype when you saw a young middle eastern male wasn't "terrorist", it was "rich party boy going to college on daddy's oil money till he's forty, living in the dorm and takin his buddies to the titty bar"......what happened to THOSE guys?

I remember that stereotype from my college days!

 

[pismoe]

more on 'muslims' at work in Germany , Today . --- Hamburg-Barmbek: Terror-Attacke in Edeka: 1 Toter, 4 Verletzte --- course its in German but there are pictures and video .

 

[Coyote]

AMI interviews somali muslims on streets of 'Minnesota' . --- Minneapolis Muslims: Sharia law better than American laws ---

----------------------------------------------- USA law is what Law Abiding Christians , Buddhists , Catholics , Protestants and other religions or athiests conform to . muslims if they are TRUE muslims do not believe in putting the Constitution above islamic , sharia or mohammads law . And their muslim religion does not allow them to put the Constitution above 'mohammads' law . Afterall , punishment for muslim APOSTASY is death . -------------------- Christians for example are not part of this world and are under Secular Law or MANS Law or USA Constitution while residing here on Earth . ------------------- just a comment .

I realize this is a stunner (though some might call it a no brainer) but US Law is what Law Abiding Muslims conform to. Imagine that! (better take a seat)

 

[Coyote]

more on 'muslims' at work in Germany , Today . --- Hamburg-Barmbek: Terror-Attacke in Edeka: 1 Toter, 4 Verletzte --- course its in German but there are pictures and video .

Not sure what the relevence of this is since we're talking about a survey done by PEW on AMERICAN Muslims...

 

[pismoe]

just an example of muslims as they do their work TODAY in some part of the world Coyote .

 

[bitter clinging swiftie]

question for you muslims on this thred. Back when I was young, the stereotype when you saw a young middle eastern male wasn't "terrorist", it was "rich party boy going to college on daddy's oil money till he's forty, living in the dorm and takin his buddies to the titty bar"......what happened to THOSE guys?

I remember that stereotype from my college days!

its funny how stereotypes change. I remember here in texas, the redneck stereotype was "crew cut", now its long hair.