Uh Oh, Melania's speech was plagiarized

[Iceweasel]

Yeah, but she's got better legs than Bubba Clinton...

Good thing it doesnt matter what kind of legs a FLOTUS has. She is probably a security risk. I wonder how much porn she has done that can be used to bribe Trump?

I agree! She's probably also banged Putin - which may explain why Adolf Trump and Putin are such buds.
In fact, Melania may be a go-between messenger - or even a spy. This is serious!

The Real Winner At The GOP Convention Is Vladimir Putin

Please note you heard it from me first. About a hundred pages ago I pointed out that Melania's career and schooling were financed by none other than The KGB - headed by Vladimir Pootin.

It's not one of those Cinderella stories of poor little commie girl makes the big time against all odds...her Daddy was a card carrying member of the Communist party.

I do hope Sophia Vergara gets to play her in the TV movie, though!

I gotta say --- you've brought some posts here with good info.
This is not one of them.

They say Hillary shouldn't be president because she broke the law?

CLEVELAND ― The revelation that Donald Trump’s business staff writer Meredith McIver wrote the partly plagiarized speech given by Melania Trump on Mondaynight raises questions about whether his campaign is illegally commingling corporate and campaign resources.

McIver does not appear to have any official role in the presidential campaign. Her letter acknowledging her role in the speech debacle appeared on corporate letterhead from the Trump Organization. And she is not listed as being paid by the Trump campaign on any available reports filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Corporations are banned from donating directly or through in-kind services to political campaigns. McIver could have volunteered her services, but her offer to resign from the Trump Organization suggests that she was acting within her job responsibilities. (Donald Trump rejected that offer.)

“Given the identification of McIver as an ‘in-house staff writer’ at the Trump Organization in both the statement and letter, and her resignation from the Trump Organization ― printed on Trump Organization stationary ― and not the campaign, it appears that corporate resources may have been used to prepare the speech,” said Jordan Libowitz, communications director for the campaign finance watchdog Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. “That would make the speech an illegal in-kind corporate contribution from the Trump Organization to the campaign.”

Larry Noble, counsel at the Campaign Legal Center and former counsel for the FEC, agreed that McIvers’ role “raises a lot of red flags.”

Melania Trump Speech Appears To Be An Illegal Campaign Contribution

I'm not clear on how she couldn't have volunteered her time but offered to quit her job for effing up. Can you explain?

 

[mudwhistle]

Wasn't it Paula Jones who Bill 'settled' with for hundreds of thousands of dollars?
Good old Paula was able to describe Bill's 'My Little Pony'. Seems Bill's got an erect dick about three inches long.

Do you REALLY want to go there????

There has been much talk of late about Donald Trump and the law. In addition to his regular threats to sue Ted Cruz, LawNewz.comdiscovered Trump has been named as a plaintiff and defendant in at least 169 different federal lawsuits. Some of the cases have been resolved, a few dismissed as frivolous, others privately settled. In the context of that research, we found one that was particularly interesting, even scandalous. So we did some further digging and obtained an exclusive copy of the $125 million lawsuit filed in 1997, which had been buried deep in a federal archive warehouse in Kansas City, Missouri. The case has almost never been reported on, and the shocking allegations just seemed to suddenly vanish in an era before the widespread availability of the internet.

The lawsuit was filed by Jill Harth who then went by Jill Harth Houraney on April 25, 1997. Harth, who was in her early 30’s at the time, alleged that Trump engaged in hostile and offensive sexual behavior towards her from 1992 to 1997 including “groping” her under her dress on several occasions

Yeah.....but she waited till know to file because it's not political.

 

[Iceweasel]

Oliver Darcy on Twitter

Note the part regarding how Melania ADMIRES Michelle Obama......That Trump family is a lot more "democrat" than many democrats.

I suspect it had nothing to do with politics. Hard to believe for a hack like you, I know.

 

[Kat]

NY Times.

They uh, linked to her statement.
There ain't no way out of that.

Don't they always?

I believe so. The point is it doesn't matter what the source is --- their source is going to read the same quote whether it's The Nation or Drudge. So the specific vehicle is irrelevant.

So what you are saying is no one should ever comment on the source others use, no matter who it is, or what is said? Pogo I will have to remember that the next time I happen to be berated for a source I may use.
I think people in general think of it as a bias.

 

[Pogo]

On the topic of plagiarism. If 6 months ago I heard you say " I like ice cream" and then today I say " I like ice cream" is it plagiarism? or do we just agree on liking ice cream?

Exactly. Now if only -Trump- would be so keen on things like his word being his bond -.-...

I have a sneaky suspicion that Melania's sternly-delivered "you keep your promise!" (which was not part of Michelle's speech, so it had to be consciously inserted) was a veiled warning to Rump himself about his prior wives.

As one comedian put it Dumballed "saved the box Melania came in so he can return her when she turns 50".

 

[nat4900]

Lolol. Here we go...it's the "he's a sexual predator!" hysteria from the left that they get in with whenever they can't get the courts to do their bidding.

OK, knishgirl........Tap into your few remaining brain cells and tell us WHO started this bullshit about "sexual predators"...Was it a right or left winger???

 

[rightwinger]

So we learned that Melania lied about the values she learned growing up

They were not her values but Michelle's

Actually, you're the liar. Michelle lied about her values, Melanie believed her, and actually has those values.

So values kinda skip a generation

It is not the person who originally writes about it but the person who copies the thought

Republican bizarro world

Seems like Melania admires Michelle's parents doesn't it?

 

[Kat]

So we learned that Melania lied about the values she learned growing up

They were not her values but Michelle's

Actually, you're the liar. Michelle lied about her values, Melanie believed her, and actually has those values.

So values kinda skip a generation

It is not the person who originally writes about it but the person who copies the thought

Republican bizarro world

Seems like Melania admires Michelle's parents doesn't it?

You can admire someone, and it not mean you agree with their politics, just as you can agree with someone politically, yet can't stand them as a person.
Why is that so hard to grasp?

 

[Pogo]

NY Times.

They uh, linked to her statement.
There ain't no way out of that.

Don't they always?

I believe so. The point is it doesn't matter what the source is --- their source is going to read the same quote whether it's The Nation or Drudge. So the specific vehicle is irrelevant.

So what you are saying is no one should ever comment on the source others use, no matter who it is, or what is said? Pogo I will have to remember that the next time I happen to be berated for a source I may use.
I think people in general think of it as a bias.

This is the point --- it cannot be "biased" if it's referencing a quote. What's in the quote becomes face, and facts are non-negotiable. You can't just make up a link.

Opinions can be biased. This wasn't an opinion. If the link did not exist and the NYT article was merely speculating, then it could have "bias". But the evidence is there, and it's an admission.

Whether that admission is actually true or whether it's yet another lie made up to take one for the team, that's another question, but the statement WAS released, and that's an incontrovertible fact regardless who reports it.

 

[Kat]

I have a sneaky suspicion that Melania's sternly-delivered "you keep your promise!" (which was not part of Michelle's speech, so it had to be consciously inserted) was a veiled warning to Rump himself about his prior wives.

LOL I know darn well you do not really believe that she would get on national TV...actually world wide TV, and warn her husband. GMAB!

 

[Kat]

NY Times.

They uh, linked to her statement.
There ain't no way out of that.

Don't they always?

I believe so. The point is it doesn't matter what the source is --- their source is going to read the same quote whether it's The Nation or Drudge. So the specific vehicle is irrelevant.

So what you are saying is no one should ever comment on the source others use, no matter who it is, or what is said? Pogo I will have to remember that the next time I happen to be berated for a source I may use.
I think people in general think of it as a bias.

This is the point --- it cannot be "biased" if it's referencing a quote. What's in the quote becomes face, and facts are non-negotiable. You can't just make up a link.

Opinions can be biased. This wasn't an opinion. If the link did not exist and the NYT article was merely speculating, then it could have "bias". But the evidence is there, and it's an admission.

Whether that admission is actually true or whether it's yet another lie made up to take one for the team, that's another question, but the statement WAS released, and that's an incontrovertible fact regardless who reports it.

Glad to see you admit to that. Over the years I have been attacked many times for using such.

 

[nat4900]

I suspect it had nothing to do with politics. Hard to believe for a hack like you, I know.

Well, you may be 'coorect" Weasel.......Convention speeches have NOTHING to do with politics. LOL

 

[rightwinger]

So we learned that Melania lied about the values she learned growing up

They were not her values but Michelle's

Actually, you're the liar. Michelle lied about her values, Melanie believed her, and actually has those values.

So values kinda skip a generation

It is not the person who originally writes about it but the person who copies the thought

Republican bizarro world

Seems like Melania admires Michelle's parents doesn't it?

You can admire someone, and it not mean you agree with their politics, just as you can agree with someone politically, yet can't stand them as a person.
Why is that so hard to grasp?

So you are saying that Melania admires Michelle's parents for the values they taught?

 

[paperview]

Nowhere in Melania's speech did I hear her say "For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of my country".

Of course, MORON.....Melania is a foreigner and naturalized citizen.

(....and had she stated that line in some other of her speeches, you idiots would STILL say that she doesn't lift Michelle's words .)

And as usual, the sarcasm flies right over the liberal's head.

Kinda like the subtlety of a GHW Bush remark flew over yours ----- and continues to years later?

Nowhere in Melania's speech did I hear her say "For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of my country".

Of course, MORON.....Melania is a foreigner and naturalized citizen.

(....and had she stated that line in some other of her speeches, you idiots would STILL say that she doesn't lift Michelle's words .)

And as usual, the sarcasm flies right over the liberal's head.

Kinda like the subtlety of a GHW Bush remark flew over yours ----- and continues to years later?

You mean this subtle remark? I don't know why you insist in repeatedly outing yourself as a conspiracy theorist but hey, if you're stupid enough to keep doing it, I'm happy to let you, moron.

It's been a while since I read this but as I recall George Bush still can't account for his whereabouts in Paris (?) sometime in October '80. Just as he can't account for his whereabouts in Dallas on November 22nd of 1963.

That's the one, thank you. If I had a dime for every time you've publicly shot yourself in the foot in failing to figure this out, I could buy the whole teleprompter business.

 

[Iceweasel]

I suspect it had nothing to do with politics. Hard to believe for a hack like you, I know.

Well, you may be 'coorect" Weasel.......Convention speeches have NOTHING to do with politics. LOL

Goddamn you're stupid. I was talking about her liking Michelle.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Much of it was taken from Mrs. Obama's 2008 speech. 22 out of 26 words directly lifted.

This is exactly why Liberals should not be in charge. They don't have their priorities straight. They shit themselves over a few borrowed words of a potential First Lady when their candidate just got a pass on jail for negligence and handling of more than 33,000 emails that put security of this nation at risk. Who gives a shit about borrowing words from Michelle Obama? It should be a testimony to her speeches.

 

[Kat]

So we learned that Melania lied about the values she learned growing up

They were not her values but Michelle's

Actually, you're the liar. Michelle lied about her values, Melanie believed her, and actually has those values.

So values kinda skip a generation

It is not the person who originally writes about it but the person who copies the thought

Republican bizarro world

Seems like Melania admires Michelle's parents doesn't it?

You can admire someone, and it not mean you agree with their politics, just as you can agree with someone politically, yet can't stand them as a person.
Why is that so hard to grasp?

So you are saying that Melania admires Michelle's parents for the values they taught?

Newp. Not saying anything, other than my own personal experience. How would I know Melania's?

 

[S.J.]

Nowhere in Melania's speech did I hear her say "For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of my country".

Of course, MORON.....Melania is a foreigner and naturalized citizen.

(....and had she stated that line in some other of her speeches, you idiots would STILL say that she doesn't lift Michelle's words .)

And as usual, the sarcasm flies right over the liberal's head.

Kinda like the subtlety of a GHW Bush remark flew over yours ----- and continues to years later?

Nowhere in Melania's speech did I hear her say "For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of my country".

Of course, MORON.....Melania is a foreigner and naturalized citizen.

(....and had she stated that line in some other of her speeches, you idiots would STILL say that she doesn't lift Michelle's words .)

And as usual, the sarcasm flies right over the liberal's head.

Kinda like the subtlety of a GHW Bush remark flew over yours ----- and continues to years later?

You mean this subtle remark? I don't know why you insist in repeatedly outing yourself as a conspiracy theorist but hey, if you're stupid enough to keep doing it, I'm happy to let you, moron.

It's been a while since I read this but as I recall George Bush still can't account for his whereabouts in Paris (?) sometime in October '80. Just as he can't account for his whereabouts in Dallas on November 22nd of 1963.

That's the one, thank you. If I had a dime for every time you've publicly shot yourself in the foot in failing to figure this out, I could buy the whole teleprompter business.

There ya go, keep denying what everyone can clearly see. Maybe if you deny it enough times you can convince yourself you didn't say it. BTW, I heard GWB also couldn't account for his whereabouts in Washington D.C. on April 14, 1865. Witnesses say he was hanging around outside the Ford Theater just before the play started. LMAO!

 

[Pogo]

Trump must be irate that his wife was humiliated like that due to the ineptness of his staff

if it was staff, he'd have fired someone already. This has to be someone in the family...maybe even him.

The following article suggests it was Melania herself:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/us/politics/melania-trump-convention-speech.html

might be. i suppose she's just as capable of plagiarizing as the rest of them.

Why does everyone who sees a connection between Michelle Obama's speech and Melania Trump's speech have to see it in a negative light -.-?

because plagiarizing material is lazy and looks disorganized and unprofessional

And more to the point, dishonest.

 

[Pogo]

As someone here said previously, I imagine she was found to be "plagiarizing" herself .

I'm pretty sure John Fogerty is the only one who can plagiarize himself.

He won that case though.