Unfettered Capitalism

[dblack]

Government should control everything? That seems like a really bad idea.

Government should control rich people and corporations.

Again, that's your opinion. Other people think it should control pompous douchebags on the internet.

Both are an abuse of government power.

Unlike pompous Internet douchebags, government creates rich people and corporations, so it's hard to imagine reasonable people viewing public regulation of wealthy interests as an abuse.

Government doesn't create rich people or corporations. That's idiotic. But it does "regulate" them, and many of those rich people and corporations have learned that manipulating regulations is very effective way of protecting their wealth. Which is why, every time you morons pass more "regulation", they smile and bend it their way, further entrenching their power and control. Yet you remain convinced that MORE regulation is the answer.

You're convinced that everything will be better if government controls it. I think that's utterly insane.

Yet, Trump has cut regulations by one third, and you hate him.

You don't get it. I have no idea what Trump has "accomplished" or what he claims he's going to do next. It's irrelevant. He's a proven liar and a troll. I don't WANT him on my side. He's dragging conservative principles into the sewer and creating an entire generation of passionate socialists that will bury us because they see his disgusting persona is the face of conservatism. He's destroying everything you pretend to care about and you don't even see it.

Aren't tax cuts and reducing regulations "conservative principles?"

I have no problem with Trump's persona. Whenever the TDS morons start howling, I know Trump is doing what I want him to do. The only way you can get the respect of douchebags is by becoming a douchebag yourself.

Are tax cuts sustainable when also drastically increasing debt?

Then cut spending.

Or if you are trump make it worse by increasing spending.

So you think Trump should have done nothing about the shutdown?

I don’t think hurting revenue with tax cuts and drastically increasing spending was fiscally responsible.

Increasing spending is never fiscally responsible. So why would you ever vote for a Democrat?

Because they have a much better record than trump. Trump is making obama look fiscally responsible.

No they don't. They have a far worse record than Trump.

Trump increased Obama deficits drastically during a strong economy. How is that not worse?

No he didn't. Furthermore, he had to give Dims the increases in social spending they wanted to get the defense spending increases he wanted. I think that was a bad bargain, but that's how the dice came up.

It's like arguing over which bus driver is less drunk.

I'll walk.

 

[bripat9643]

Government should control everything? That seems like a really bad idea.

Government should control rich people and corporations.

Again, that's your opinion. Other people think it should control pompous douchebags on the internet.

Both are an abuse of government power.

Unlike pompous Internet douchebags, government creates rich people and corporations, so it's hard to imagine reasonable people viewing public regulation of wealthy interests as an abuse.

Government doesn't create rich people or corporations. That's idiotic. But it does "regulate" them, and many of those rich people and corporations have learned that manipulating regulations is very effective way of protecting their wealth. Which is why, every time you morons pass more "regulation", they smile and bend it their way, further entrenching their power and control. Yet you remain convinced that MORE regulation is the answer.

You're convinced that everything will be better if government controls it. I think that's utterly insane.

Yet, Trump has cut regulations by one third, and you hate him.

You don't get it. I have no idea what Trump has "accomplished" or what he claims he's going to do next. It's irrelevant. He's a proven liar and a troll. I don't WANT him on my side. He's dragging conservative principles into the sewer and creating an entire generation of passionate socialists that will bury us because they see his disgusting persona is the face of conservatism. He's destroying everything you pretend to care about and you don't even see it.

Aren't tax cuts and reducing regulations "conservative principles?"

I have no problem with Trump's persona. Whenever the TDS morons start howling, I know Trump is doing what I want him to do. The only way you can get the respect of douchebags is by becoming a douchebag yourself.

Are tax cuts sustainable when also drastically increasing debt?

Then cut spending.

The question is, why won't Trump do this? Why won't the Republicans do this when they are in power and have the opportunity???

Republicans used to understand this. They used to argue for a balanced budget amendment that would really bring the issue home. But it's far easier to just pass phony tax cuts and pretend it's all good. Idiot voters fall for it - and here we are.

No one ever got elected by cutting someone's favorite program.

How about just not increasing?

Fine with me. So why would you ever vote for a Democrat? Biden was to increase spending by trillions.

He wants to undo some of the irresponsible tax cuts too. The guy has a fiscally responsible record compared to trump....

You mean he wants to increase taxes. All that shows is that he isn't serious. He's a tax and spend liberal.

Vs tax cut, spend, and borrow trump.

Spare me the shit. We all know that cutting spending is political suicide. Whoever actually enacts spending cuts loses the next election. You aren't going to earn my respect by pretending you don't know the rules of the game.

 

[Brain357]

Government should control everything? That seems like a really bad idea.

Government should control rich people and corporations.

Again, that's your opinion. Other people think it should control pompous douchebags on the internet.

Both are an abuse of government power.

Unlike pompous Internet douchebags, government creates rich people and corporations, so it's hard to imagine reasonable people viewing public regulation of wealthy interests as an abuse.

Government doesn't create rich people or corporations. That's idiotic. But it does "regulate" them, and many of those rich people and corporations have learned that manipulating regulations is very effective way of protecting their wealth. Which is why, every time you morons pass more "regulation", they smile and bend it their way, further entrenching their power and control. Yet you remain convinced that MORE regulation is the answer.

You're convinced that everything will be better if government controls it. I think that's utterly insane.

Yet, Trump has cut regulations by one third, and you hate him.

You don't get it. I have no idea what Trump has "accomplished" or what he claims he's going to do next. It's irrelevant. He's a proven liar and a troll. I don't WANT him on my side. He's dragging conservative principles into the sewer and creating an entire generation of passionate socialists that will bury us because they see his disgusting persona is the face of conservatism. He's destroying everything you pretend to care about and you don't even see it.

Aren't tax cuts and reducing regulations "conservative principles?"

I have no problem with Trump's persona. Whenever the TDS morons start howling, I know Trump is doing what I want him to do. The only way you can get the respect of douchebags is by becoming a douchebag yourself.

Are tax cuts sustainable when also drastically increasing debt?

Then cut spending.

Or if you are trump make it worse by increasing spending.

So you think Trump should have done nothing about the shutdown?

I don’t think hurting revenue with tax cuts and drastically increasing spending was fiscally responsible.

Increasing spending is never fiscally responsible. So why would you ever vote for a Democrat?

Because they have a much better record than trump. Trump is making obama look fiscally responsible.

No they don't. They have a far worse record than Trump.

Trump increased Obama deficits drastically during a strong economy. How is that not worse?

No he didn't. Furthermore, he had to give Dims the increases in social spending they wanted to get the defense spending increases he wanted. I think that was a bad bargain, but that's how the dice came up.

Yes deficits have gone up every single year trump has been in office. We spend more on defense than the next 10 countries combined and the guy demanded an increase...

 

[bripat9643]

Trump increased Obama deficits drastically during a strong economy. How is that not worse?

No he didn't. Furthermore, he had to give Dims the increases in social spending they wanted to get the defense spending increases he wanted. I think that was a bad bargain, but that's how the dice came up.

It's like arguing over which bus driver is less drunk.

I'll walk.

You don't get that option. You're going for a ride whether you want to or not. I'll take the bus driver who is less drunk.

 

[Brain357]

Government should control everything? That seems like a really bad idea.

Government should control rich people and corporations.

Again, that's your opinion. Other people think it should control pompous douchebags on the internet.

Both are an abuse of government power.

Unlike pompous Internet douchebags, government creates rich people and corporations, so it's hard to imagine reasonable people viewing public regulation of wealthy interests as an abuse.

Government doesn't create rich people or corporations. That's idiotic. But it does "regulate" them, and many of those rich people and corporations have learned that manipulating regulations is very effective way of protecting their wealth. Which is why, every time you morons pass more "regulation", they smile and bend it their way, further entrenching their power and control. Yet you remain convinced that MORE regulation is the answer.

You're convinced that everything will be better if government controls it. I think that's utterly insane.

Yet, Trump has cut regulations by one third, and you hate him.

You don't get it. I have no idea what Trump has "accomplished" or what he claims he's going to do next. It's irrelevant. He's a proven liar and a troll. I don't WANT him on my side. He's dragging conservative principles into the sewer and creating an entire generation of passionate socialists that will bury us because they see his disgusting persona is the face of conservatism. He's destroying everything you pretend to care about and you don't even see it.

Aren't tax cuts and reducing regulations "conservative principles?"

I have no problem with Trump's persona. Whenever the TDS morons start howling, I know Trump is doing what I want him to do. The only way you can get the respect of douchebags is by becoming a douchebag yourself.

Are tax cuts sustainable when also drastically increasing debt?

Then cut spending.

The question is, why won't Trump do this? Why won't the Republicans do this when they are in power and have the opportunity???

Republicans used to understand this. They used to argue for a balanced budget amendment that would really bring the issue home. But it's far easier to just pass phony tax cuts and pretend it's all good. Idiot voters fall for it - and here we are.

No one ever got elected by cutting someone's favorite program.

How about just not increasing?

Fine with me. So why would you ever vote for a Democrat? Biden was to increase spending by trillions.

He wants to undo some of the irresponsible tax cuts too. The guy has a fiscally responsible record compared to trump....

You mean he wants to increase taxes. All that shows is that he isn't serious. He's a tax and spend liberal.

Vs tax cut, spend, and borrow trump.

Spare me the shit. We all know that cutting spending is political suicide. Whoever actually enacts spending cuts loses the next election. You aren't going to earn my respect by pretending you don't know the rules of the game.

Trump could have not increased spending and not passed irresponsible cuts and fiscally we’d be much better off. And yes he could have been re-elected.

 

[dblack]

Spare me the shit. We all know that cutting spending is political suicide.

I don't by that. It's a cowardly excuse. A good leader could make the case for spending cuts. But we, most of at least, only vote for bad leaders.

 

[Brain357]

Trump increased Obama deficits drastically during a strong economy. How is that not worse?

No he didn't. Furthermore, he had to give Dims the increases in social spending they wanted to get the defense spending increases he wanted. I think that was a bad bargain, but that's how the dice came up.

It's like arguing over which bus driver is less drunk.

I'll walk.

You don't get that option. You're going for a ride whether you want to or not. I'll take the bus driver who is less drunk.

The guy who spends like a drunken sailor? Hey let’s buy Greenland.

 

[dblack]

Trump increased Obama deficits drastically during a strong economy. How is that not worse?

No he didn't. Furthermore, he had to give Dims the increases in social spending they wanted to get the defense spending increases he wanted. I think that was a bad bargain, but that's how the dice came up.

It's like arguing over which bus driver is less drunk.

I'll walk.

You don't get that option. You're going for a ride whether you want to or not. I'll take the bus driver who is less drunk.

But I'm not buying a fucking ticket. You dumbasses might take us all down, but I won't be supporting your idiocy.

 

[bripat9643]

Government should control everything? That seems like a really bad idea.

Government should control rich people and corporations.

Again, that's your opinion. Other people think it should control pompous douchebags on the internet.

Both are an abuse of government power.

Unlike pompous Internet douchebags, government creates rich people and corporations, so it's hard to imagine reasonable people viewing public regulation of wealthy interests as an abuse.

Government doesn't create rich people or corporations. That's idiotic. But it does "regulate" them, and many of those rich people and corporations have learned that manipulating regulations is very effective way of protecting their wealth. Which is why, every time you morons pass more "regulation", they smile and bend it their way, further entrenching their power and control. Yet you remain convinced that MORE regulation is the answer.

You're convinced that everything will be better if government controls it. I think that's utterly insane.

Yet, Trump has cut regulations by one third, and you hate him.

You don't get it. I have no idea what Trump has "accomplished" or what he claims he's going to do next. It's irrelevant. He's a proven liar and a troll. I don't WANT him on my side. He's dragging conservative principles into the sewer and creating an entire generation of passionate socialists that will bury us because they see his disgusting persona is the face of conservatism. He's destroying everything you pretend to care about and you don't even see it.

Aren't tax cuts and reducing regulations "conservative principles?"

I have no problem with Trump's persona. Whenever the TDS morons start howling, I know Trump is doing what I want him to do. The only way you can get the respect of douchebags is by becoming a douchebag yourself.

Are tax cuts sustainable when also drastically increasing debt?

Then cut spending.

Or if you are trump make it worse by increasing spending.

So you think Trump should have done nothing about the shutdown?

I don’t think hurting revenue with tax cuts and drastically increasing spending was fiscally responsible.

Increasing spending is never fiscally responsible. So why would you ever vote for a Democrat?

Because they have a much better record than trump. Trump is making obama look fiscally responsible.

No they don't. They have a far worse record than Trump.

Trump increased Obama deficits drastically during a strong economy. How is that not worse?

No he didn't. Furthermore, he had to give Dims the increases in social spending they wanted to get the defense spending increases he wanted. I think that was a bad bargain, but that's how the dice came up.

Yes deficits have gone up every single year trump has been in office. We spend more on defense than the next 10 countries combined and the guy demanded an increase...

Obama had a year with a $1.5 trillion dollar deficit. Trump doesn't deserve the blame for the COVID deficit.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump increased Obama deficits drastically during a strong economy. How is that not worse?

No he didn't. Furthermore, he had to give Dims the increases in social spending they wanted to get the defense spending increases he wanted. I think that was a bad bargain, but that's how the dice came up.

It's like arguing over which bus driver is less drunk.

I'll walk.

You don't get that option. You're going for a ride whether you want to or not. I'll take the bus driver who is less drunk.

The guy who spends like a drunken sailor? Hey let’s buy Greenland.

You're blaming him for the COVID stimulus. The only thing you accomplish with that tactic is convince me that you're a douchebag.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump increased Obama deficits drastically during a strong economy. How is that not worse?

No he didn't. Furthermore, he had to give Dims the increases in social spending they wanted to get the defense spending increases he wanted. I think that was a bad bargain, but that's how the dice came up.

It's like arguing over which bus driver is less drunk.

I'll walk.

You don't get that option. You're going for a ride whether you want to or not. I'll take the bus driver who is less drunk.

But I'm not buying a fucking ticket. You dumbasses might take us all down, but I won't be supporting your idiocy.

You're on the bus, moron. You don't get to get off unless you want to renounce your citizenship. Then you have to get on another bus with a drunken driver.

 

[Brain357]

Government should control everything? That seems like a really bad idea.

Government should control rich people and corporations.

Again, that's your opinion. Other people think it should control pompous douchebags on the internet.

Both are an abuse of government power.

Unlike pompous Internet douchebags, government creates rich people and corporations, so it's hard to imagine reasonable people viewing public regulation of wealthy interests as an abuse.

Government doesn't create rich people or corporations. That's idiotic. But it does "regulate" them, and many of those rich people and corporations have learned that manipulating regulations is very effective way of protecting their wealth. Which is why, every time you morons pass more "regulation", they smile and bend it their way, further entrenching their power and control. Yet you remain convinced that MORE regulation is the answer.

You're convinced that everything will be better if government controls it. I think that's utterly insane.

Yet, Trump has cut regulations by one third, and you hate him.

You don't get it. I have no idea what Trump has "accomplished" or what he claims he's going to do next. It's irrelevant. He's a proven liar and a troll. I don't WANT him on my side. He's dragging conservative principles into the sewer and creating an entire generation of passionate socialists that will bury us because they see his disgusting persona is the face of conservatism. He's destroying everything you pretend to care about and you don't even see it.

Aren't tax cuts and reducing regulations "conservative principles?"

I have no problem with Trump's persona. Whenever the TDS morons start howling, I know Trump is doing what I want him to do. The only way you can get the respect of douchebags is by becoming a douchebag yourself.

Are tax cuts sustainable when also drastically increasing debt?

Then cut spending.

Or if you are trump make it worse by increasing spending.

So you think Trump should have done nothing about the shutdown?

I don’t think hurting revenue with tax cuts and drastically increasing spending was fiscally responsible.

Increasing spending is never fiscally responsible. So why would you ever vote for a Democrat?

Because they have a much better record than trump. Trump is making obama look fiscally responsible.

No they don't. They have a far worse record than Trump.

Trump increased Obama deficits drastically during a strong economy. How is that not worse?

No he didn't. Furthermore, he had to give Dims the increases in social spending they wanted to get the defense spending increases he wanted. I think that was a bad bargain, but that's how the dice came up.

Yes deficits have gone up every single year trump has been in office. We spend more on defense than the next 10 countries combined and the guy demanded an increase...

Obama had a year with a $1.5 trillion dollar deficit. Trump doesn't deserve the blame for the COVID deficit.

So you have to go back to the recession and the disaster Obama inherited? But trump is clear on the worst pandemic response? That’s funny. After the Bush mess was cleared up deficits went down. Then Trump increased them every
year...

 

[dblack]

Government should control everything? That seems like a really bad idea.

Government should control rich people and corporations.

Again, that's your opinion. Other people think it should control pompous douchebags on the internet.

Both are an abuse of government power.

Unlike pompous Internet douchebags, government creates rich people and corporations, so it's hard to imagine reasonable people viewing public regulation of wealthy interests as an abuse.

Government doesn't create rich people or corporations. That's idiotic. But it does "regulate" them, and many of those rich people and corporations have learned that manipulating regulations is very effective way of protecting their wealth. Which is why, every time you morons pass more "regulation", they smile and bend it their way, further entrenching their power and control. Yet you remain convinced that MORE regulation is the answer.

You're convinced that everything will be better if government controls it. I think that's utterly insane.

Yet, Trump has cut regulations by one third, and you hate him.

You don't get it. I have no idea what Trump has "accomplished" or what he claims he's going to do next. It's irrelevant. He's a proven liar and a troll. I don't WANT him on my side. He's dragging conservative principles into the sewer and creating an entire generation of passionate socialists that will bury us because they see his disgusting persona is the face of conservatism. He's destroying everything you pretend to care about and you don't even see it.

Aren't tax cuts and reducing regulations "conservative principles?"

I have no problem with Trump's persona. Whenever the TDS morons start howling, I know Trump is doing what I want him to do. The only way you can get the respect of douchebags is by becoming a douchebag yourself.

Are tax cuts sustainable when also drastically increasing debt?

Then cut spending.

Or if you are trump make it worse by increasing spending.

So you think Trump should have done nothing about the shutdown?

I don’t think hurting revenue with tax cuts and drastically increasing spending was fiscally responsible.

Increasing spending is never fiscally responsible. So why would you ever vote for a Democrat?

Because they have a much better record than trump. Trump is making obama look fiscally responsible.

No they don't. They have a far worse record than Trump.

Trump increased Obama deficits drastically during a strong economy. How is that not worse?

No he didn't. Furthermore, he had to give Dims the increases in social spending they wanted to get the defense spending increases he wanted. I think that was a bad bargain, but that's how the dice came up.

Yes deficits have gone up every single year trump has been in office. We spend more on defense than the next 10 countries combined and the guy demanded an increase...

Obama had a year with a $1.5 trillion dollar deficit. Trump doesn't deserve the blame for the COVID deficit.

He had him beat even before COVID. Your dancing is getting erratic. And your pants are falling down.

 

[bripat9643]

Spare me the shit. We all know that cutting spending is political suicide.

I don't by that. It's a cowardly excuse. A good leader could make the case for spending cuts. But we, most of at least, only vote for bad leaders.

Then why don't you vote for one?

 

[bripat9643]

Government should control everything? That seems like a really bad idea.

Government should control rich people and corporations.

Again, that's your opinion. Other people think it should control pompous douchebags on the internet.

Both are an abuse of government power.

Unlike pompous Internet douchebags, government creates rich people and corporations, so it's hard to imagine reasonable people viewing public regulation of wealthy interests as an abuse.

Government doesn't create rich people or corporations. That's idiotic. But it does "regulate" them, and many of those rich people and corporations have learned that manipulating regulations is very effective way of protecting their wealth. Which is why, every time you morons pass more "regulation", they smile and bend it their way, further entrenching their power and control. Yet you remain convinced that MORE regulation is the answer.

You're convinced that everything will be better if government controls it. I think that's utterly insane.

Yet, Trump has cut regulations by one third, and you hate him.

You don't get it. I have no idea what Trump has "accomplished" or what he claims he's going to do next. It's irrelevant. He's a proven liar and a troll. I don't WANT him on my side. He's dragging conservative principles into the sewer and creating an entire generation of passionate socialists that will bury us because they see his disgusting persona is the face of conservatism. He's destroying everything you pretend to care about and you don't even see it.

Aren't tax cuts and reducing regulations "conservative principles?"

I have no problem with Trump's persona. Whenever the TDS morons start howling, I know Trump is doing what I want him to do. The only way you can get the respect of douchebags is by becoming a douchebag yourself.

Are tax cuts sustainable when also drastically increasing debt?

Then cut spending.

Or if you are trump make it worse by increasing spending.

So you think Trump should have done nothing about the shutdown?

I don’t think hurting revenue with tax cuts and drastically increasing spending was fiscally responsible.

Increasing spending is never fiscally responsible. So why would you ever vote for a Democrat?

Because they have a much better record than trump. Trump is making obama look fiscally responsible.

No they don't. They have a far worse record than Trump.

Trump increased Obama deficits drastically during a strong economy. How is that not worse?

No he didn't. Furthermore, he had to give Dims the increases in social spending they wanted to get the defense spending increases he wanted. I think that was a bad bargain, but that's how the dice came up.

Yes deficits have gone up every single year trump has been in office. We spend more on defense than the next 10 countries combined and the guy demanded an increase...

Obama had a year with a $1.5 trillion dollar deficit. Trump doesn't deserve the blame for the COVID deficit.

So you have to go back to the recession and the disaster Obama inherited? But trump is clear on the worst pandemic response? That’s funny. After the Bush mess was clears up deficits went down. Then Trump increased them ever year...

You're too stupid to argue with. I've heard this shit 10,000 times already. You're a die-hard Dim and no amount of facts and logic will ever change your mind.

 

[Brain357]

Trump increased Obama deficits drastically during a strong economy. How is that not worse?

No he didn't. Furthermore, he had to give Dims the increases in social spending they wanted to get the defense spending increases he wanted. I think that was a bad bargain, but that's how the dice came up.

It's like arguing over which bus driver is less drunk.

I'll walk.

You don't get that option. You're going for a ride whether you want to or not. I'll take the bus driver who is less drunk.

The guy who spends like a drunken sailor? Hey let’s buy Greenland.

You're blaming him for the COVID stimulus. The only thing you accomplish with that tactic is convince me that you're a douchebag.

He increased deficits to a trillion dollars during a strong economy Before covid!!

 

[dblack]

Spare me the shit. We all know that cutting spending is political suicide.

I don't by that. It's a cowardly excuse. A good leader could make the case for spending cuts. But we, most of at least, only vote for bad leaders.

Then why don't you vote for one?

I do. Every time.

 

[bripat9643]

Government should control everything? That seems like a really bad idea.

Government should control rich people and corporations.

Again, that's your opinion. Other people think it should control pompous douchebags on the internet.

Both are an abuse of government power.

Unlike pompous Internet douchebags, government creates rich people and corporations, so it's hard to imagine reasonable people viewing public regulation of wealthy interests as an abuse.

Government doesn't create rich people or corporations. That's idiotic. But it does "regulate" them, and many of those rich people and corporations have learned that manipulating regulations is very effective way of protecting their wealth. Which is why, every time you morons pass more "regulation", they smile and bend it their way, further entrenching their power and control. Yet you remain convinced that MORE regulation is the answer.

You're convinced that everything will be better if government controls it. I think that's utterly insane.

Yet, Trump has cut regulations by one third, and you hate him.

You don't get it. I have no idea what Trump has "accomplished" or what he claims he's going to do next. It's irrelevant. He's a proven liar and a troll. I don't WANT him on my side. He's dragging conservative principles into the sewer and creating an entire generation of passionate socialists that will bury us because they see his disgusting persona is the face of conservatism. He's destroying everything you pretend to care about and you don't even see it.

Aren't tax cuts and reducing regulations "conservative principles?"

I have no problem with Trump's persona. Whenever the TDS morons start howling, I know Trump is doing what I want him to do. The only way you can get the respect of douchebags is by becoming a douchebag yourself.

Are tax cuts sustainable when also drastically increasing debt?

Then cut spending.

Or if you are trump make it worse by increasing spending.

So you think Trump should have done nothing about the shutdown?

I don’t think hurting revenue with tax cuts and drastically increasing spending was fiscally responsible.

Increasing spending is never fiscally responsible. So why would you ever vote for a Democrat?

Because they have a much better record than trump. Trump is making obama look fiscally responsible.

No they don't. They have a far worse record than Trump.

Trump increased Obama deficits drastically during a strong economy. How is that not worse?

No he didn't. Furthermore, he had to give Dims the increases in social spending they wanted to get the defense spending increases he wanted. I think that was a bad bargain, but that's how the dice came up.

Yes deficits have gone up every single year trump has been in office. We spend more on defense than the next 10 countries combined and the guy demanded an increase...

Obama had a year with a $1.5 trillion dollar deficit. Trump doesn't deserve the blame for the COVID deficit.

He had him beat even before COVID. Your dancing is getting erratic. And your pants are falling down.

No he didn't, moron. Obama had three or four budgets that were larger than all of Trump's budgets.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump increased Obama deficits drastically during a strong economy. How is that not worse?

No he didn't. Furthermore, he had to give Dims the increases in social spending they wanted to get the defense spending increases he wanted. I think that was a bad bargain, but that's how the dice came up.

It's like arguing over which bus driver is less drunk.

I'll walk.

You don't get that option. You're going for a ride whether you want to or not. I'll take the bus driver who is less drunk.

The guy who spends like a drunken sailor? Hey let’s buy Greenland.

You're blaming him for the COVID stimulus. The only thing you accomplish with that tactic is convince me that you're a douchebag.

He increased deficits to a trillion dollars during a strong economy Before covid!!

I'm done arguing with you. You're immune to logic.

 

[Brain357]

Government should control everything? That seems like a really bad idea.

Government should control rich people and corporations.

Again, that's your opinion. Other people think it should control pompous douchebags on the internet.

Both are an abuse of government power.

Unlike pompous Internet douchebags, government creates rich people and corporations, so it's hard to imagine reasonable people viewing public regulation of wealthy interests as an abuse.

Government doesn't create rich people or corporations. That's idiotic. But it does "regulate" them, and many of those rich people and corporations have learned that manipulating regulations is very effective way of protecting their wealth. Which is why, every time you morons pass more "regulation", they smile and bend it their way, further entrenching their power and control. Yet you remain convinced that MORE regulation is the answer.

You're convinced that everything will be better if government controls it. I think that's utterly insane.

Yet, Trump has cut regulations by one third, and you hate him.

You don't get it. I have no idea what Trump has "accomplished" or what he claims he's going to do next. It's irrelevant. He's a proven liar and a troll. I don't WANT him on my side. He's dragging conservative principles into the sewer and creating an entire generation of passionate socialists that will bury us because they see his disgusting persona is the face of conservatism. He's destroying everything you pretend to care about and you don't even see it.

Aren't tax cuts and reducing regulations "conservative principles?"

I have no problem with Trump's persona. Whenever the TDS morons start howling, I know Trump is doing what I want him to do. The only way you can get the respect of douchebags is by becoming a douchebag yourself.

Are tax cuts sustainable when also drastically increasing debt?

Then cut spending.

Or if you are trump make it worse by increasing spending.

So you think Trump should have done nothing about the shutdown?

I don’t think hurting revenue with tax cuts and drastically increasing spending was fiscally responsible.

Increasing spending is never fiscally responsible. So why would you ever vote for a Democrat?

Because they have a much better record than trump. Trump is making obama look fiscally responsible.

No they don't. They have a far worse record than Trump.

Trump increased Obama deficits drastically during a strong economy. How is that not worse?

No he didn't. Furthermore, he had to give Dims the increases in social spending they wanted to get the defense spending increases he wanted. I think that was a bad bargain, but that's how the dice came up.

Yes deficits have gone up every single year trump has been in office. We spend more on defense than the next 10 countries combined and the guy demanded an increase...

Obama had a year with a $1.5 trillion dollar deficit. Trump doesn't deserve the blame for the COVID deficit.

So you have to go back to the recession and the disaster Obama inherited? But trump is clear on the worst pandemic response? That’s funny. After the Bush mess was clears up deficits went down. Then Trump increased them ever year...

You're too stupid to argue with. I've heard this shit 10,000 times already. You're a die-hard Dim and no amount of facts and logic will ever change your mind.

You don’t have facts or logic on your side. Fact is trump increased deficits every single year during a strong economy. That’s when you pay down debt.