Unfortunately my friends, gun control is coming.

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Oh and bibrebnc, didn't you lose a bet? Teehee

 

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Since you have a problem understanding what the purpose for the second amendment is for, I really don't give a god damn what you think should be used.
to too or fucking two is fucking irrelevant at this god damn fucking time.,

Yeah. 2nd ammendment. You know, have as many guns as the militia. That way you can over take the government. Yeah, let's not change that outdated bullshit.

The people having the ability to keep the government in check is out dated bullshit??

If the government is not " in check" armed citizens do what exactly?

 

[SniperFire]

And only an idiot would insist that gun control laws don't work when all the stats point to the contrary.

You are changing the subject, idiot.


LOL

False.

Oh good. Let's stay on subject and continue your richly deserved beatdown. Are you claiming being part of 'militia' is the determiner for any right to bear arms in America?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You do realize the second amendment had nothing to do with you owning an AR-15, right?

It is obvious that you don't have the first idea what the second amendment was about. Read the federalist papers and other writings of the people who crafted that amendment and it becomes clear that the second amendment is the people's final defense against a tyranical government. They wanted to give the people a means of defending themselves against them.

When you're 'defending' yourself please let me know so I can stand back a few feet, or so.

I'm going to use a phrase you are not familiar with.

Asymmetric warfare

 

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Typical liberal ignorance. Wail, gnash thier teeth, and go on and on about the tragedy when 20 kids are killed by a nutcase with a gun, but wholeheartedly support measures like CAFE standards for automobiles that result in thousands of children, and tens of thousands of adults dying needlessly every year all for the sake of a couple of additional miles per gallon of gas.

CAFE Standards Kill: Congress' Regulatory Solution to Foreign Oil Dependence Comes at a Steep Price

CAFE Kills, and Then Some: Six Reasons to Be Skeptical of Fuel Economy Standards

Fuel efficiency standards and the laws of physics - SourceWatch

Archived-Articles: Death by CAFE Standards

I have to ask, are the very few children who are killed occasionally by crazies with guns somehow more dead than the thousands that can be laid at the feet of a government that regulated them to death?

Exactly.. Why aren't liberal concerned about Eric Holder and Barack Obama running guns to drug Lords which have ended up killing innocent Americans and slaughtered a group of teenagers?!

Please don't make me post this every time you bring this up. Do regard for the truth I see.

Heads roll after Fast and Furious investigation - CBS News
Heads are beginning to roll nearly two years after the Fast and Furious gunwalker scandal first came to light. William McMahon, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) official who was in charge of field operations during the controversial operation, has been fired, according to his attorney Mark Zaid who told CBS News "we will be appealing the decision."

Other ATF managers reportedly face similar fates, and announcements could be made soon, though neither they nor their attorneys would confirm it. They are: Mark Chait, who was ATF's assistant director for field operations; Bill Newell, who was ATF's Special Agent in Charge of Phoenix; and George Gillett, Newell's second in command. Chait's attorney David Laufman stated in an email: "Mr. Chait has not been advised of any adverse finding or recommendation by the Professional Review Board at ATF, and any such action would be utterly without merit."

House, DOJ will try to resolve Fast and Furious records lawsuit
Full coverage: Fast and Furious

Another key Fast and Furious figure who's leaving the Justice Department today is Attorney General Eric Holder's chief of staff Gary Grindler. Grindler was faulted by the Justice Department's Inspector General for not informing Holder about the "significant and troubling" link between ATF's Operation Fast and Furious, and rifles found at the murder of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry on December 15, 2010.

In announcing his departure this week, Holder made no mention of Fast and Furious, and said Grindler "has demonstrated time and again his good judgment and an ability to make the tough - and correct - decisions." Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., who led the House investigation into Fast and Furious, said Grindler's "departure from the Justice Department is warranted and long overdue."

According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, which neither the Justice Department nor ATF would confirm, two other Phoenix-based agents have been recommended for disciplinary action: David Voth, who led the team that conducted Fast and Furious; and the lead agent on the case Hope MacAllister. According to the Wall Street Journal, they would receive demotions, reprimands and/or transfers.

In Operation Fast and Furious, ATF agents allowed thousands of weapons "walk" or to fall into the hands of Mexico's killer drug cartels. Many of them turned up after being used at crime scene in Mexico and the U.S. The Justice Department initially denied any gunwalking had occurred, but, over the course of a lengthy congressional investigation, eventually acknowledged the controversial strategy.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Might want to figure out the difference between 'to' and 'too' before you question the intelligence of someone else.

Since you have a problem understanding what the purpose for the second amendment is for, I really don't give a god damn what you think should be used.
to too or fucking two is fucking irrelevant at this god damn fucking time.,

Yeah. 2nd ammendment. You know, have as many guns as the militia. That way you can over take the government. Yeah, let's not change that outdated bullshit.

Asymmetric warfare will always win the war.

 

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No it didn't.

Now everyone wants an exception just for them? You're going to have to fill out a form. Would you like a blue crayon or a green one.

If you don't even know what the 2nd Amendment says, why are you posting?

No talking during the test!

 

[RDD_1210]

And only an idiot would insist that gun control laws don't work when all the stats point to the contrary.

No, they don't. Your hand selected cherry picked stats are the only ones that support your argument. The fact is that a full treatment of all available data shows that there is no causal connection between proliferation of guns and occurrence of crime.

We have by far the most guns among 1st world countries and the most crime. What separates our country from other nations with lower crime rates that you claim are causing our high crime rates if it's not guns?

Yes, there are criminals everywhere. Banning guns wont change that, but the sheer volume of crime we have and the high rate of violent crime can be lowered with stricter gun control laws.

 

[thanatos144]

Yeah. 2nd ammendment. You know, have as many guns as the militia. That way you can over take the government. Yeah, let's not change that outdated bullshit.

The people having the ability to keep the government in check is out dated bullshit??

If the government is not " in check" armed citizens do what exactly?

Why replace it... Gee you fascists are not to bright.

 

[beretta304]

"the young are ignorant"

Sums up quite a bit of our problems.

 

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Bear

You do realize that the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting, right?

You do realize the second amendment had nothing to do with you owning an AR-15, right?

I fear for America with idiots like you having the right too vote.

And I vote very liberally. Get it? I vote often for liberals. I crack myself up sometimes.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Now everyone wants an exception just for them? You're going to have to fill out a form. Would you like a blue crayon or a green one.

If you don't even know what the 2nd Amendment says, why are you posting?

No talking during the test!

Are you as concerned about Eric Holder and Barack Obama putting weapons in the hands of DRUG LORDS??? Or do they get a pass from you gun grabbers?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

And only an idiot would insist that gun control laws don't work when all the stats point to the contrary.

No, they don't. Your hand selected cherry picked stats are the only ones that support your argument. The fact is that a full treatment of all available data shows that there is no causal connection between proliferation of guns and occurrence of crime.

We have by far the most guns among 1st world countries and the most crime. What separates our country from other nations with lower crime rates that you claim are causing our high crime rates if it's not guns?

Yes, there are criminals everywhere. Banning guns wont change that, but the sheer volume of crime we have and the high rate of violent crime can be lowered with stricter gun control laws.

Thats all good and fine unless you are one of the victims of those crimes where you were no longer able to defend yourself.

 

[SniperFire]

Now everyone wants an exception just for them? You're going to have to fill out a form. Would you like a blue crayon or a green one.

If you don't even know what the 2nd Amendment says, why are you posting?

No talking during the test!

I think people have figured out you are just here to troll.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You do realize the second amendment had nothing to do with you owning an AR-15, right?

I fear for America with idiots like you having the right too vote.

And I vote very liberally. Get it? I vote often for liberals. I crack myself up sometimes.

There wasn't any doubt about that.

 

[Lakhota]

Personally, I think Justice Scalia is a radical wingnut - but you NaziCon gun nuts should be a little worried about his views on the 2nd Amendment...

And Now a Thought From Justice Scalia

 

[SniperFire]

And only an idiot would insist that gun control laws don't work when all the stats point to the contrary.

No, they don't. Your hand selected cherry picked stats are the only ones that support your argument. The fact is that a full treatment of all available data shows that there is no causal connection between proliferation of guns and occurrence of crime.

We have by far the most guns among 1st world countries and the most crime. What separates our country from other nations with lower crime rates that you claim are causing our high crime rates if it's not guns?

Yes, there are criminals everywhere. Banning guns wont change that, but the sheer volume of crime we have and the high rate of violent crime can be lowered with stricter gun control laws.

Small minority populations committing the vast majority of gun murders.


Next question?

 

[RDD_1210]

You are changing the subject, idiot.


LOL

False.

Oh good. Let's stay on subject and continue your richly deserved beatdown. Are you claiming being part of 'militia' is the determiner for any right to bear arms in America?

Are you claiming thats not how it was written in the Constitution?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Personally, I think Justice Scalia is a radical wingnut - but you NaziCon gun nuts should be a little worried about his views on the 2nd Amendment...

And Now a Thought From Justice Scalia

There is no law or supreme court justice that will make me give up my right. It's a dead issue.

 

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One major fallacy is that gun laws do not work.

You said that yourself!!!

If you can't come up with anything more than half baked BS that you yourself contradict, than just stop talking.

No, that whole post was a quote from the article I linked to. Which you would know if you clicked link because you were curious about what anyone who did not completely agree with you had to say.