US adds massive 287,000 jobs in June.....Quite A Change From Bush's Fiasco

[Conservative65]

When Obama took office, the prices went back up yet you say nothing about that. They still aren't down to where they were when Bush left. The way I see it, it was better under Bush.

The prices went back up as the world began to recover from the Wages of Supply Side Idiocy......they fell as the world wide glut developed....

It has nothing to do with who is in the WH.

That was the point I was trying to make to Campbell. He is one of those that blames Bush for gas prices going up, gives no credit to the one he blames when the prices come down yet refuses to apply that same concept to the person he supports.

The point, in case you missed it, is that if you're going to blame the person you oppose when something happens be willing to blame the person you support when the same thing happens. More than one like that idiot is willing to say the President can have something to do with gas prices when the person they oppose is in office then denies the President can when the person he supports is in office.

The context was the claptrap about federal leases....

That's not what Campbell's context was. He stated gas prices went up under Bush yet said nothing about them going up under Obama. Pay attention, stupid.

You my friend are a phuckin' liar!!!!

First, I'm not your friend. I have standards and you will never live up to them. Secondly, your post referenced gas prices only. If you say otherwise, you're the liar.

 

[Conservative65]

The graph I posted related to food stamp use says there are still over 45 million leeches living off the taxpayers.

You do understand that that has nothing to do with whether or not they are working, right?

What I understand is you agree that unemployment has gone way down yet food stamp use is still what it is. If more people are working, logic dictates that less people are relying on handouts. That isn't the case.

More people are working but at wages that still qualifies for food stamps. It is due to poor wages paid by our "job creators". They are making record profits but little trickles down to their employees

If someone is getting paid at a wage equivalent to their job skills, it is trickling down at a level at which it should be trickling. Your argument is that someone offering skills worth a certain amount should get more just because. If your job skills are worth $8/hour and you get paid $8/hour, why should you get paid an amount higher than that?

What it boils down to is someone making a wage where they can't support themselves resulting in their use of social welfare is the employers part. In reality, if all they offer in the way of skills isn't worth enough to support themselves, the problem is with the one offering the skills not the one offering the equivalent pay for those skills.

Our "job creators" are deciding what wages those skills should pay. Those skills used to pay a wage you could live off of.......now we need the taxpayers to support the job creators workforce

Since it's their money that being paid, they are the only ones that should be deciding. If you're not doing the paying, you don't get to decide what the skills are worth to the one that is. That's the problem with you leftist pieces of shit. If you think someone should be paid more for a certain set of skills, start a business that uses those skills and prove to the rest of us you truly believe what you say.

Still boils down to the person offering then skills not offering something worth paying for. Hate to break it to you but when anyone can you what you do, what you do doesn't pay very much.

 

[rdean]

So 287,000 were added in june but in May only 38,000 when 162,000 were expected so subtract 162,000 from 287,000 you get 125,000 add the 38,000 and that gives you 163,000. So since May was so bad the June numbers basically even it out and keeps job creation about where its been.
151,000 jobs for January
242,000 jobs for Feburuary
215,000 jobs for March
160,000 jobs for April
So as you can see we have had a high of 287,000 a low of 38,000 and a lot of jumping in between.

I'm surprised that with unemployment at 4.7% and there being 5.8 million jobs availible, hiring would be that high.

America has near record 5.8 million job openings

Who really wants to work two 29 hour full time jobs?

With education you don't have to. Something most Republicans simply don't get. Sad.

 

[Conservative65]

So 287,000 were added in june but in May only 38,000 when 162,000 were expected so subtract 162,000 from 287,000 you get 125,000 add the 38,000 and that gives you 163,000. So since May was so bad the June numbers basically even it out and keeps job creation about where its been.
151,000 jobs for January
242,000 jobs for Feburuary
215,000 jobs for March
160,000 jobs for April
So as you can see we have had a high of 287,000 a low of 38,000 and a lot of jumping in between.

I'm surprised that with unemployment at 4.7% and there being 5.8 million jobs availible, hiring would be that high.

America has near record 5.8 million job openings

Who really wants to work two 29 hour full time jobs?

With education you don't have to. Something most Republicans simply don't get. Sad.

You mean the education Liberals want someone to pay for on behalf of a kid whose own parents won't do it? If the kid's own parents don't think he/she is a good investment, neither to do I.

 

[owebo]

So 287,000 were added in june but in May only 38,000 when 162,000 were expected so subtract 162,000 from 287,000 you get 125,000 add the 38,000 and that gives you 163,000. So since May was so bad the June numbers basically even it out and keeps job creation about where its been.
151,000 jobs for January
242,000 jobs for Feburuary
215,000 jobs for March
160,000 jobs for April
So as you can see we have had a high of 287,000 a low of 38,000 and a lot of jumping in between.

I'm surprised that with unemployment at 4.7% and there being 5.8 million jobs availible, hiring would be that high.

America has near record 5.8 million job openings

Who really wants to work two 29 hour full time jobs?

With education you don't have to. Something most Republicans simply don't get. Sad.

You mean without obamacare.....something stupid fucking liberals just don't get....

 

[rightwinger]

You do understand that that has nothing to do with whether or not they are working, right?

What I understand is you agree that unemployment has gone way down yet food stamp use is still what it is. If more people are working, logic dictates that less people are relying on handouts. That isn't the case.

More people are working but at wages that still qualifies for food stamps. It is due to poor wages paid by our "job creators". They are making record profits but little trickles down to their employees

If someone is getting paid at a wage equivalent to their job skills, it is trickling down at a level at which it should be trickling. Your argument is that someone offering skills worth a certain amount should get more just because. If your job skills are worth $8/hour and you get paid $8/hour, why should you get paid an amount higher than that?

What it boils down to is someone making a wage where they can't support themselves resulting in their use of social welfare is the employers part. In reality, if all they offer in the way of skills isn't worth enough to support themselves, the problem is with the one offering the skills not the one offering the equivalent pay for those skills.

Our "job creators" are deciding what wages those skills should pay. Those skills used to pay a wage you could live off of.......now we need the taxpayers to support the job creators workforce

Since it's their money that being paid, they are the only ones that should be deciding. If you're not doing the paying, you don't get to decide what the skills are worth to the one that is. That's the problem with you leftist pieces of shit. If you think someone should be paid more for a certain set of skills, start a business that uses those skills and prove to the rest of us you truly believe what you say.

Still boils down to the person offering then skills not offering something worth paying for. Hate to break it to you but when anyone can you what you do, what you do doesn't pay very much.

Not necessarily so

We as a society can decide that if we must support underpaid workers that we need to raise the taxes of those businesses. And YES, we are doing the paying

 

[Conservative65]

What I understand is you agree that unemployment has gone way down yet food stamp use is still what it is. If more people are working, logic dictates that less people are relying on handouts. That isn't the case.

More people are working but at wages that still qualifies for food stamps. It is due to poor wages paid by our "job creators". They are making record profits but little trickles down to their employees

If someone is getting paid at a wage equivalent to their job skills, it is trickling down at a level at which it should be trickling. Your argument is that someone offering skills worth a certain amount should get more just because. If your job skills are worth $8/hour and you get paid $8/hour, why should you get paid an amount higher than that?

What it boils down to is someone making a wage where they can't support themselves resulting in their use of social welfare is the employers part. In reality, if all they offer in the way of skills isn't worth enough to support themselves, the problem is with the one offering the skills not the one offering the equivalent pay for those skills.

Our "job creators" are deciding what wages those skills should pay. Those skills used to pay a wage you could live off of.......now we need the taxpayers to support the job creators workforce

Since it's their money that being paid, they are the only ones that should be deciding. If you're not doing the paying, you don't get to decide what the skills are worth to the one that is. That's the problem with you leftist pieces of shit. If you think someone should be paid more for a certain set of skills, start a business that uses those skills and prove to the rest of us you truly believe what you say.

Still boils down to the person offering then skills not offering something worth paying for. Hate to break it to you but when anyone can you what you do, what you do doesn't pay very much.

Not necessarily so

We as a society can decide that if we must support underpaid workers that we need to raise the taxes of those businesses. And YES, we are doing the paying

Problem is too many in society that don't pay the taxes that fund the handouts higher taxes on someone else get to vote to keep paying none while raising them on others. Worthless pieces of shit.

 

[owebo]

More people are working but at wages that still qualifies for food stamps. It is due to poor wages paid by our "job creators". They are making record profits but little trickles down to their employees

If someone is getting paid at a wage equivalent to their job skills, it is trickling down at a level at which it should be trickling. Your argument is that someone offering skills worth a certain amount should get more just because. If your job skills are worth $8/hour and you get paid $8/hour, why should you get paid an amount higher than that?

What it boils down to is someone making a wage where they can't support themselves resulting in their use of social welfare is the employers part. In reality, if all they offer in the way of skills isn't worth enough to support themselves, the problem is with the one offering the skills not the one offering the equivalent pay for those skills.

Our "job creators" are deciding what wages those skills should pay. Those skills used to pay a wage you could live off of.......now we need the taxpayers to support the job creators workforce

Since it's their money that being paid, they are the only ones that should be deciding. If you're not doing the paying, you don't get to decide what the skills are worth to the one that is. That's the problem with you leftist pieces of shit. If you think someone should be paid more for a certain set of skills, start a business that uses those skills and prove to the rest of us you truly believe what you say.

Still boils down to the person offering then skills not offering something worth paying for. Hate to break it to you but when anyone can you what you do, what you do doesn't pay very much.

Not necessarily so

We as a society can decide that if we must support underpaid workers that we need to raise the taxes of those businesses. And YES, we are doing the paying

Problem is too many in society that don't pay the taxes that fund the handouts higher taxes on someone else get to vote to keep paying none while raising them on others. Worthless pieces of shit.

Leftwinger is one of the 47%.....

 

[Conservative65]

If someone is getting paid at a wage equivalent to their job skills, it is trickling down at a level at which it should be trickling. Your argument is that someone offering skills worth a certain amount should get more just because. If your job skills are worth $8/hour and you get paid $8/hour, why should you get paid an amount higher than that?

What it boils down to is someone making a wage where they can't support themselves resulting in their use of social welfare is the employers part. In reality, if all they offer in the way of skills isn't worth enough to support themselves, the problem is with the one offering the skills not the one offering the equivalent pay for those skills.

Our "job creators" are deciding what wages those skills should pay. Those skills used to pay a wage you could live off of.......now we need the taxpayers to support the job creators workforce

Since it's their money that being paid, they are the only ones that should be deciding. If you're not doing the paying, you don't get to decide what the skills are worth to the one that is. That's the problem with you leftist pieces of shit. If you think someone should be paid more for a certain set of skills, start a business that uses those skills and prove to the rest of us you truly believe what you say.

Still boils down to the person offering then skills not offering something worth paying for. Hate to break it to you but when anyone can you what you do, what you do doesn't pay very much.

Not necessarily so

We as a society can decide that if we must support underpaid workers that we need to raise the taxes of those businesses. And YES, we are doing the paying

Problem is too many in society that don't pay the taxes that fund the handouts higher taxes on someone else get to vote to keep paying none while raising them on others. Worthless pieces of shit.

Leftwinger is one of the 47%.....

Yet he thinks he should still get to vote whether or not someone else should pay more.

 

[healthmyths]

So 287,000 were added in june but in May only 38,000 when 162,000 were expected so subtract 162,000 from 287,000 you get 125,000 add the 38,000 and that gives you 163,000. So since May was so bad the June numbers basically even it out and keeps job creation about where its been.
151,000 jobs for January
242,000 jobs for Feburuary
215,000 jobs for March
160,000 jobs for April
So as you can see we have had a high of 287,000 a low of 38,000 and a lot of jumping in between.

I'm surprised that with unemployment at 4.7% and there being 5.8 million jobs availible, hiring would be that high.

America has near record 5.8 million job openings

Who really wants to work two 29 hour full time jobs?

With education you don't have to. Something most Republicans simply don't get. Sad.

It wasn't the Republicans that passed Obamacare which as one facet of it forces employers to question hiring that 50th person...
Fewer than 50 employees?
Firms of this size are generally not affected by the Employer Shared Responsibility rules and do not have to pay an assessment if their full-time employees receive premium tax credits in the Marketplace.
Employers with 50 or More Employees | The U.S. Small Business Administration | SBA.gov

So Once again the rules and regulations happy Obama administration discourages EMPLOYERS from hiring more people!
As a result the Obama butt kissing CNN states this:
It's been uttered by every opponent of health care reform: Obamacare will kill small businesses.
But the new law's rules don't apply to the vast majority of small businesses. The employer mandate, which forces firms to start providing insurance in 2014, pertains only to companies with at least 50 full-time workers.

That's a tiny fraction of small businesses.
As of 2010, there were roughly 5.7 million small employers, defined as those with fewer than 500 workers. Some 97% of them have fewer than 50 employees. That means Obamacare's employer mandate applies only to 3% of America's small businesses.
That's about 200,000 companies.
The overblown Obamacare myth about small business
Wait a minute CNN!!!
If 97% of the 5.7 million small employers have fewer then 50 employees..
THAT's 5.529 million... NOT 200,000! Again MSM ignorance.

RIGHT!! so let's assume that say 20% of these 5,529,000 companies WANTED to hire more employees and that brings them over the 50 employee limit!
That would be 1,105,800 employers hiring just one more employee or 1,105,800 NEW JOBS!
BUT NOOOOO!!!!
Who's fault is that then????

 

[RandallFlagg]

OFFSHORE DRILLING:
Obama admin says new safety rules may delay drilling, raise gas prices

Katie Howell, E&E reporter

Greenwire: Friday, October 8, 2010
The Obama administration is acknowledging that its new offshore drilling safety regulations will raise costs for the oil and gas industry -- and may also delay some offshore development, slightly increase gas prices and kill some jobs.

The new rules unveiled last week would increase operating costs by an estimated $1.42 million for each new deepwater well drilled with a floating rig, $170,000 for each new deepwater well drilled with a platform rig and $90,000 for each new shallow-water well, according to an Interior Department notice released yesterday.

Interior says the cost of compliance with the new rules is "not an insignificant amount" but would add on less than 2 percent of the cost of drilling a well in deep water and 1 percent for shallow-water wells. Typical deepwater wells drilled with floating platforms usually cost about $90 million to $100 million, Interior says in the notice to be published next week in the Federal Register.

$2 a gallon Obamagas ...$1.50 by Election Day.

And we are EXPORTING OIL

I don't know where the hell you live, but it ain't $2 a gallon.

 

[healthmyths]

The national average price of a gallon of regular gas is a seven-year low, as only six states have an average price above $2 a gallon.
Gas prices by state - CNNMoney
money.cnn.com/news/storysupplement/economy/gas_prices_by_state/
CNNMoney

 

[rightwinger]

More people are working but at wages that still qualifies for food stamps. It is due to poor wages paid by our "job creators". They are making record profits but little trickles down to their employees

If someone is getting paid at a wage equivalent to their job skills, it is trickling down at a level at which it should be trickling. Your argument is that someone offering skills worth a certain amount should get more just because. If your job skills are worth $8/hour and you get paid $8/hour, why should you get paid an amount higher than that?

What it boils down to is someone making a wage where they can't support themselves resulting in their use of social welfare is the employers part. In reality, if all they offer in the way of skills isn't worth enough to support themselves, the problem is with the one offering the skills not the one offering the equivalent pay for those skills.

Our "job creators" are deciding what wages those skills should pay. Those skills used to pay a wage you could live off of.......now we need the taxpayers to support the job creators workforce

Since it's their money that being paid, they are the only ones that should be deciding. If you're not doing the paying, you don't get to decide what the skills are worth to the one that is. That's the problem with you leftist pieces of shit. If you think someone should be paid more for a certain set of skills, start a business that uses those skills and prove to the rest of us you truly believe what you say.

Still boils down to the person offering then skills not offering something worth paying for. Hate to break it to you but when anyone can you what you do, what you do doesn't pay very much.

Not necessarily so

We as a society can decide that if we must support underpaid workers that we need to raise the taxes of those businesses. And YES, we are doing the paying

Problem is too many in society that don't pay the taxes that fund the handouts higher taxes on someone else get to vote to keep paying none while raising them on others. Worthless pieces of shit.

I agree it is a problem that so many do not pay taxes....they used to

That was until our job creators slashed wages to the point where people don't even earn enough money to qualify to pay taxes

 

[rightwinger]

The national average price of a gallon of regular gas is a seven-year low, as only six states have an average price above $2 a gallon.
Gas prices by state - CNNMoney
money.cnn.com/news/storysupplement/economy/gas_prices_by_state/
CNNMoney

Damn...I LOVE my Obamagas

 

[rightwinger]

OFFSHORE DRILLING:
Obama admin says new safety rules may delay drilling, raise gas prices

Katie Howell, E&E reporter

Greenwire: Friday, October 8, 2010
The Obama administration is acknowledging that its new offshore drilling safety regulations will raise costs for the oil and gas industry -- and may also delay some offshore development, slightly increase gas prices and kill some jobs.

The new rules unveiled last week would increase operating costs by an estimated $1.42 million for each new deepwater well drilled with a floating rig, $170,000 for each new deepwater well drilled with a platform rig and $90,000 for each new shallow-water well, according to an Interior Department notice released yesterday.

Interior says the cost of compliance with the new rules is "not an insignificant amount" but would add on less than 2 percent of the cost of drilling a well in deep water and 1 percent for shallow-water wells. Typical deepwater wells drilled with floating platforms usually cost about $90 million to $100 million, Interior says in the notice to be published next week in the Federal Register.

$2 a gallon Obamagas ...$1.50 by Election Day.

And we are EXPORTING OIL

I don't know where the hell you live, but it ain't $2 a gallon.

I live in the beautiful state of NJ where Obamagas sells for $1.92 a gallon

 

[rdean]

So 287,000 were added in june but in May only 38,000 when 162,000 were expected so subtract 162,000 from 287,000 you get 125,000 add the 38,000 and that gives you 163,000. So since May was so bad the June numbers basically even it out and keeps job creation about where its been.
151,000 jobs for January
242,000 jobs for Feburuary
215,000 jobs for March
160,000 jobs for April
So as you can see we have had a high of 287,000 a low of 38,000 and a lot of jumping in between.

I'm surprised that with unemployment at 4.7% and there being 5.8 million jobs availible, hiring would be that high.

America has near record 5.8 million job openings

Who really wants to work two 29 hour full time jobs?

With education you don't have to. Something most Republicans simply don't get. Sad.

You mean the education Liberals want someone to pay for on behalf of a kid whose own parents won't do it? If the kid's own parents don't think he/she is a good investment, neither to do I.

Education is a good investment for the Country. Red States show us what happens without education.

 

[Conservative65]

So 287,000 were added in june but in May only 38,000 when 162,000 were expected so subtract 162,000 from 287,000 you get 125,000 add the 38,000 and that gives you 163,000. So since May was so bad the June numbers basically even it out and keeps job creation about where its been.
151,000 jobs for January
242,000 jobs for Feburuary
215,000 jobs for March
160,000 jobs for April
So as you can see we have had a high of 287,000 a low of 38,000 and a lot of jumping in between.

I'm surprised that with unemployment at 4.7% and there being 5.8 million jobs availible, hiring would be that high.

America has near record 5.8 million job openings

Who really wants to work two 29 hour full time jobs?

With education you don't have to. Something most Republicans simply don't get. Sad.

You mean the education Liberals want someone to pay for on behalf of a kid whose own parents won't do it? If the kid's own parents don't think he/she is a good investment, neither to do I.

Education is a good investment for the Country. Red States show us what happens without education.

Then let the parents of those kids prove to me their kid is one by providing college for their own children.

 

[rightwinger]

I'm surprised that with unemployment at 4.7% and there being 5.8 million jobs availible, hiring would be that high.

America has near record 5.8 million job openings

Who really wants to work two 29 hour full time jobs?

With education you don't have to. Something most Republicans simply don't get. Sad.

You mean the education Liberals want someone to pay for on behalf of a kid whose own parents won't do it? If the kid's own parents don't think he/she is a good investment, neither to do I.

Education is a good investment for the Country. Red States show us what happens without education.

Then let the parents of those kids prove to me their kid is one by providing college for their own children.

Good point...College education should be reserved only for those who can afford it

 

[Conservative65]

Who really wants to work two 29 hour full time jobs?

With education you don't have to. Something most Republicans simply don't get. Sad.

You mean the education Liberals want someone to pay for on behalf of a kid whose own parents won't do it? If the kid's own parents don't think he/she is a good investment, neither to do I.

Education is a good investment for the Country. Red States show us what happens without education.

Then let the parents of those kids prove to me their kid is one by providing college for their own children.

Good point...College education should be reserved only for those who can afford it

Someone claiming something is a good investment then expecting others to be the one doing the investing tells me it isn't a good investment.

 

[Conservative65]

If someone is getting paid at a wage equivalent to their job skills, it is trickling down at a level at which it should be trickling. Your argument is that someone offering skills worth a certain amount should get more just because. If your job skills are worth $8/hour and you get paid $8/hour, why should you get paid an amount higher than that?

What it boils down to is someone making a wage where they can't support themselves resulting in their use of social welfare is the employers part. In reality, if all they offer in the way of skills isn't worth enough to support themselves, the problem is with the one offering the skills not the one offering the equivalent pay for those skills.

Our "job creators" are deciding what wages those skills should pay. Those skills used to pay a wage you could live off of.......now we need the taxpayers to support the job creators workforce

Since it's their money that being paid, they are the only ones that should be deciding. If you're not doing the paying, you don't get to decide what the skills are worth to the one that is. That's the problem with you leftist pieces of shit. If you think someone should be paid more for a certain set of skills, start a business that uses those skills and prove to the rest of us you truly believe what you say.

Still boils down to the person offering then skills not offering something worth paying for. Hate to break it to you but when anyone can you what you do, what you do doesn't pay very much.

Not necessarily so

We as a society can decide that if we must support underpaid workers that we need to raise the taxes of those businesses. And YES, we are doing the paying

Problem is too many in society that don't pay the taxes that fund the handouts higher taxes on someone else get to vote to keep paying none while raising them on others. Worthless pieces of shit.

I agree it is a problem that so many do not pay taxes....they used to

That was until our job creators slashed wages to the point where people don't even earn enough money to qualify to pay taxes

More excuses and unverifiable claims by a lefty.