US economy expanded at 2.4 percent in 4th quarter

[bripat9643]

if you're really a "1%er", you must have inherited, thats all pretty far out, way out.

Self-made. Returning more money to people, states, and small business is 'pretty far out, way out'?

"Returning" money from where?

 

[bripat9643]

US economy expanded at 2.4 percent in 4th quarter - Salon.com

If you really want to see economic expansion

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

I guess that can work provided you don't mind seeing unemployment double or triple and prices on goods go through the roof.

Actually small business (200 employees or less) can hire more without effecting/affecting their bottom line.

Your idiocy is truly stupefying.

 

[bripat9643]

US economy expanded at 2.4 percent in 4th quarter - Salon.com

If you really want to see economic expansion

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

I guess that can work provided you don't mind seeing unemployment double or triple and prices on goods go through the roof.

You mean like in Germany???
Except there, the economy has flourished.

Germany backed down all costs, prices and fees to 2009 levels?

 

[bripat9643]

The Federal Government return most or more than 100% to each state. I'm changing the payee.

And how is it that the feds go about retuning 100%, let alone more, of what they take in, when they have their legions of bureaucrats to pay first?

Believe it. The one being laughed at here is you, sport.

I know this is a difficult concept for you me boy. But the gov is not a person. And it can and does create revenue when it needs to. Has for the past century. You may want to read some time. Become less ignorant. You could do that for centuries, based on the massive ignorance you show.

Wrong. The government doesn't generate revenue. It shakes down you and me for cash. Well, at least it shakes down me.

 

[bripat9643]

I know this is a difficult concept for you me boy. But the gov is not a person. And it can and does create revenue when it needs to. Has for the past century. You may want to read some time. Become less ignorant. You could do that for centuries, based on the massive ignorance you show.

I'm not a boy, chump.

Government creates nothing. It can only take, by way of force, from those who have created something to attain its revenues.

Now run along and play with your People's Cube.

You are very confused. What I said, and you are incapable of understanding, is simple. It is that the gov creates money supply for our economy. It does so by selling gov bonds. Simple concept. But it is probably too complex for you.
It spends that money on all sorts of things. From bombs to bumpers. That creates demand, which causes private companies to produce goods and services. Which causes companies to hire. And on and on.
If you are ever able to get a drivers licence, spend a bit of time wondering where that interstate highway came from. Or that national park. Or that hydroelectric dam.

Sorry, this is probably way to complex for you. But the rest of us understand. Me girl. boy, it.

When businesses discover all they got for the goods they sold is worthless paper, they charge higher prices to make-up the difference. Financing the government with the printing press is called "debasing the currency." It's a form of theft.

 

[william the wie]

Fantasy does not work in reality but the left tends to innumerate schizoid ideation.

 

[Mr. H.]

Here's the story in one simple graphic. From the EIA.

And if this fuck-for-brains President gets his proposed budget, and if his EPA is allowed to run roughshod over the hydrocarbon industries... then you can kiss this gravy train good-bye.

How about giving some credit where credit is due? No can do....
This administration is about killing the Golden Goose.

 

[william the wie]

Good data Mr. H but get some data on China too. The Chinese unexpected trade deficit that was just reported indicates that insourcing jobs to automated factories in the US is about to take off.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

US economy expanded at 2.4 percent in 4th quarter - Salon.com

If you really want to see economic expansion

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

The same stupid arguments you presented in the CDZ. The good thing is that, since you presented them here, I can tell you that only a brain dead moron would believe that any of this would work.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

US economy expanded at 2.4 percent in 4th quarter - Salon.com

If you really want to see economic expansion

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

I guess that can work provided you don't mind seeing unemployment double or triple and prices on goods go through the roof.

You mean like in Germany???
Except there, the economy has flourished.

Up until last year Germany didn't have a minimum wage. Can I take your post to mean, since you pointed to Germany, that you want to abolish the minimum wage? Or should I just assume that you are an ignorant fuckhead that is supporting an brain dead moron because you think you have all the answers?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The Federal Government return most or more than 100% to each state. I'm changing the payee.

And how is it that the feds go about retuning 100%, let alone more, of what they take in, when they have their legions of bureaucrats to pay first?

Believe it. The one being laughed at here is you, sport.

I know this is a difficult concept for you me boy. But the gov is not a person. And it can and does create revenue when it needs to. Has for the past century. You may want to read some time. Become less ignorant. You could do that for centuries, based on the massive ignorance you show.

The government does not create revenue, it steals it from real people.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

US economy expanded at 2.4 percent in 4th quarter - Salon.com

If you really want to see economic expansion

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

Minimum wage to $23.50 an hour? LOL Do you have any clue what that would do to labor costs for American businesses trying to compete in a global economy? Unless you're going to establish strict tariffs on goods coming into the United States (and before you pull that trigger you might want to check out something called Smoot Hawley) you're dooming thousands of American businesses to failure.

You shouldn't HAVE to ban off shore investment! People used to want to invest in the US because it was stable and protected by the rule of law. You didn't have to force capital to stay in the US...it was drawn here.

You missed the magic money part.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

US economy expanded at 2.4 percent in 4th quarter - Salon.com

If you really want to see economic expansion

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

I am sympathetic to some of these but sadly if all these were implemented the economy would be in such turmoil that I doubt it would survive long.

No central planning that fixes prices is going to work well, believe me.

Would that it were so.

Trying to fix out economy by these things is like trying to wag a dog by its tail.

We need to solve the problem that we are no longer a capitalist system and have become a KLEPTOCRATIC economy captured by the MONITORISTS.

THE RIGHT WINGERS ARE CALL IT SOCIALISM.

THE LEFT WINGERS CALL IT CAPITALISM GONE AWEY

BOTH ARE PARTIALLY RIGHT, BOTH COMPLETELY WRONG.

The basic flaw, the cancer if you will, has to do with the AMOUNT of DEBT/MONEY and who gets to LEND IT and who gets to SPEND IT FIRST

Look at that, two posters who actually believe in the power of government to fix everything, and they still think 1% is an idiot. I guess that means that only two people on the board think he has the brains of a paramecium.

 

[Rshermr]

I guess that can work provided you don't mind seeing unemployment double or triple and prices on goods go through the roof.

You mean like in Germany???
Except there, the economy has flourished.

Up until last year Germany didn't have a minimum wage. Can I take your post to mean, since you pointed to Germany, that you want to abolish the minimum wage? Or should I just assume that you are an ignorant fuckhead that is supporting an brain dead moron because you think you have all the answers?

No. Had you noticed that Germany has among the strongest labor unions of any country in the world. Did you ever consider that with really strong labor unions, minimum wage laws were not real important for a lot of years. So, dipshit, are you suggesting that we should have minimum wage laws AND strong labor unions??

 

[Rshermr]

And how is it that the feds go about retuning 100%, let alone more, of what they take in, when they have their legions of bureaucrats to pay first?

Believe it. The one being laughed at here is you, sport.

I know this is a difficult concept for you me boy. But the gov is not a person. And it can and does create revenue when it needs to. Has for the past century. You may want to read some time. Become less ignorant. You could do that for centuries, based on the massive ignorance you show.

The government does not create revenue, it steals it from real people.

Problem is, me poor ignorant libertarian tool, you are delusional. You think that a libertarian society exists, which is nonsense. You believe in ghosts. And all sort so strange ideas. And you believe that the gov steals from citizens.