US economy expanded at 2.4 percent in 4th quarter

[OnePercenter]

US economy expanded at 2.4 percent in 4th quarter - Salon.com

If you really want to see economic expansion

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

I guess that can work provided you don't mind seeing unemployment double or triple and prices on goods go through the roof.

Actually small business (200 employees or less) can hire more without effecting/affecting their bottom line.

 

[OnePercenter]

This is getting funnier. By the way the 1% is such a low bar even I qualify. Millionaires are the 0.1% last time I checked.

Yet you've offered nothing to refute my post besides bloviating vernacular.

Your post is nothing but bloviating pipe dreams of government tyrants. The smart people are all pointing at you and laughing.

You mean the pompous blowhards are all pointing at you and laughing.

 

[Zander]

US economy expanded at 2.4 percent in 4th quarter - Salon.com

If you really want to see economic expansion

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

I guess that can work provided you don't mind seeing unemployment double or triple and prices on goods go through the roof.

Actually small business (200 employees or less) can hire more without effecting/affecting their bottom line.

Sure we can......

 

[OnePercenter]

I guess that can work provided you don't mind seeing unemployment double or triple and prices on goods go through the roof.

Actually small business (200 employees or less) can hire more without effecting/affecting their bottom line.

Sure we can......

Your inability to grasp my concept may be an early sign of dementia.

 

[william the wie]

Yet you've offered nothing to refute my post besides bloviating vernacular.

Your post is nothing but bloviating pipe dreams of government tyrants. The smart people are all pointing at you and laughing.

You mean the pompous blowhards are all pointing at you and laughing.

As you have just illustrated at least you are pointing at Darkwind.

 

[Zander]

Actually small business (200 employees or less) can hire more without effecting/affecting their bottom line.

Sure we can......

Your inability to grasp my concept may be an early sign of dementia.

Mmmkay....

 

[HelenaHandbag]

Self-made. Returning more money to people, states, and small business is 'pretty far out, way out'?

there is no money to "return", labor is an asset which you sell/barter for $$ or other specie...you don't start out with a million bucks in life, well, maybe you did

The Federal Government return most or more than 100% to each state. I'm changing the payee.

And how is it that the feds go about retuning 100%, let alone more, of what they take in, when they have their legions of bureaucrats to pay first?

Believe it. The one being laughed at here is you, sport.

 

[Rshermr]

US economy expanded at 2.4 percent in 4th quarter - Salon.com

If you really want to see economic expansion

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

I guess that can work provided you don't mind seeing unemployment double or triple and prices on goods go through the roof.

You mean like in Germany???
Except there, the economy has flourished.

 

[Rshermr]

there is no money to "return", labor is an asset which you sell/barter for $$ or other specie...you don't start out with a million bucks in life, well, maybe you did

The Federal Government return most or more than 100% to each state. I'm changing the payee.

And how is it that the feds go about retuning 100%, let alone more, of what they take in, when they have their legions of bureaucrats to pay first?

Believe it. The one being laughed at here is you, sport.

I know this is a difficult concept for you me boy. But the gov is not a person. And it can and does create revenue when it needs to. Has for the past century. You may want to read some time. Become less ignorant. You could do that for centuries, based on the massive ignorance you show.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

if you're really a "1%er", you must have inherited, thats all pretty far out, way out.

Self-made. Returning more money to people, states, and small business is 'pretty far out, way out'?

Hit the Lotto, nice

 

[HelenaHandbag]

The Federal Government return most or more than 100% to each state. I'm changing the payee.

And how is it that the feds go about retuning 100%, let alone more, of what they take in, when they have their legions of bureaucrats to pay first?

Believe it. The one being laughed at here is you, sport.

I know this is a difficult concept for you me boy. But the gov is not a person. And it can and does create revenue when it needs to. Has for the past century. You may want to read some time. Become less ignorant. You could do that for centuries, based on the massive ignorance you show.

I'm not a boy, chump.

Government creates nothing. It can only take, by way of force, from those who have created something to attain its revenues.

Now run along and play with your People's Cube.

 

[SteadyMercury]

You mean like in Germany???
Except there, the economy has flourished.

Germany has flourished relative to the rest of Europe. The United States has had stronger GDP growth, and has a higher GDP per capita and GDP per capita PPP.

 

[Oldstyle]

US economy expanded at 2.4 percent in 4th quarter - Salon.com

If you really want to see economic expansion

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

Minimum wage to $23.50 an hour? LOL Do you have any clue what that would do to labor costs for American businesses trying to compete in a global economy? Unless you're going to establish strict tariffs on goods coming into the United States (and before you pull that trigger you might want to check out something called Smoot Hawley) you're dooming thousands of American businesses to failure.

You shouldn't HAVE to ban off shore investment! People used to want to invest in the US because it was stable and protected by the rule of law. You didn't have to force capital to stay in the US...it was drawn here.

 

[editec]

US economy expanded at 2.4 percent in 4th quarter - Salon.com

If you really want to see economic expansion

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

I am sympathetic to some of these but sadly if all these were implemented the economy would be in such turmoil that I doubt it would survive long.

No central planning that fixes prices is going to work well, believe me.

Would that it were so.

Trying to fix out economy by these things is like trying to wag a dog by its tail.

We need to solve the problem that we are no longer a capitalist system and have become a KLEPTOCRATIC economy captured by the MONITORISTS.

THE RIGHT WINGERS ARE CALL IT SOCIALISM.

THE LEFT WINGERS CALL IT CAPITALISM GONE AWEY

BOTH ARE PARTIALLY RIGHT, BOTH COMPLETELY WRONG.

The basic flaw, the cancer if you will, has to do with the AMOUNT of DEBT/MONEY and who gets to LEND IT and who gets to SPEND IT FIRST

 

[Rshermr]

And how is it that the feds go about retuning 100%, let alone more, of what they take in, when they have their legions of bureaucrats to pay first?

Believe it. The one being laughed at here is you, sport.

I know this is a difficult concept for you me boy. But the gov is not a person. And it can and does create revenue when it needs to. Has for the past century. You may want to read some time. Become less ignorant. You could do that for centuries, based on the massive ignorance you show.

I'm not a boy, chump.

Government creates nothing. It can only take, by way of force, from those who have created something to attain its revenues.

Now run along and play with your People's Cube.

You are very confused. What I said, and you are incapable of understanding, is simple. It is that the gov creates money supply for our economy. It does so by selling gov bonds. Simple concept. But it is probably too complex for you.
It spends that money on all sorts of things. From bombs to bumpers. That creates demand, which causes private companies to produce goods and services. Which causes companies to hire. And on and on.
If you are ever able to get a drivers licence, spend a bit of time wondering where that interstate highway came from. Or that national park. Or that hydroelectric dam.

Sorry, this is probably way to complex for you. But the rest of us understand. Me girl. boy, it.

 

[Geaux4it]

Nobody working.. Down we go

-Geaux

 

[Trajan]

Self-made. Returning more money to people, states, and small business is 'pretty far out, way out'?

there is no money to "return", labor is an asset which you sell/barter for $$ or other specie...you don't start out with a million bucks in life, well, maybe you did

The Federal Government return most or more than 100% to each state. I'm changing the payee.

thats already done via say EIC, hello

 

[Oldstyle]

The Federal Government return most or more than 100% to each state. I'm changing the payee.

And how is it that the feds go about retuning 100%, let alone more, of what they take in, when they have their legions of bureaucrats to pay first?

Believe it. The one being laughed at here is you, sport.

I know this is a difficult concept for you me boy. But the gov is not a person. And it can and does create revenue when it needs to. Has for the past century. You may want to read some time. Become less ignorant. You could do that for centuries, based on the massive ignorance you show.

Well, if it isn't, Rshermr...AKA "Mr. Economics"! The man who swears he taught economics at the the college level but didn't know what the term "school of economics" meant! YOU calling someone else ignorant when it comes to economics is like Milli Vanilli telling someone that they can't carry a tune...

 

[HelenaHandbag]

I know this is a difficult concept for you me boy. But the gov is not a person. And it can and does create revenue when it needs to. Has for the past century. You may want to read some time. Become less ignorant. You could do that for centuries, based on the massive ignorance you show.

I'm not a boy, chump.

Government creates nothing. It can only take, by way of force, from those who have created something to attain its revenues.

Now run along and play with your People's Cube.

You are very confused. What I said, and you are incapable of understanding, is simple. It is that the gov creates money supply for our economy. It does so by selling gov bonds. Simple concept. But it is probably too complex for you.
It spends that money on all sorts of things. From bombs to bumpers. That creates demand, which causes private companies to produce goods and services. Which causes companies to hire. And on and on.
If you are ever able to get a drivers licence, spend a bit of time wondering where that interstate highway came from. Or that national park. Or that hydroelectric dam.

Sorry, this is probably way to complex for you. But the rest of us understand. Me girl. boy, it.

The Fed creates the money supply. They are a privately owned institution, not the government.

When they create that money out of thin air, they inflate the currency, which is a backdoor tax on everyone.

Whether by hook or by crook, my haughty, condescending, buttpipe friend (not), government creates nothing that it didn't first either take from someone else or destroy. They are the exact antithesis of production and wealth creation.

 

[william the wie]

You mean like in Germany???
Except there, the economy has flourished.

Germany has flourished relative to the rest of Europe. The United States has had stronger GDP growth, and has a higher GDP per capita and GDP per capita PPP.

True and you can add in that German utility companies are rated speculative.